Re: [PD-dev] pd file format: color settings

2010-02-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Also, there are some conversion objects around, I think in pdmtl for example. .hc On Feb 14, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I assume, this is because a 24bit integer cannot be saved with full precision with Pd, since Pd seems to strip off some bits when saving a floating point val

Re: [PD-dev] Debian Policy for Pd packages

2010-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, Just finished a weekend long Debian Bug Squashing Party here in NYC. I discussed with a few Debian Developers how best to fit Pd's files into Debian Policy. This is what we came up with.

[PD-dev] Debian Policy for Pd packages

2010-01-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, Just finished a weekend long Debian Bug Squashing Party here in NYC. I discussed with a few Debian Developers how best to fit Pd's files into Debian Policy. This is what we came up with. Let me know what you guys think, and whether there are other things to add. * While .

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences

2010-01-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
as well. What do you think? Andras ps i have rerouted the thread to pd-dev. 2010/1/24 Hans-Christoph Steiner Wow, that sucks! Good luck with the new computer! .hc On Jan 23, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Rich E wrote: Well, I wanted to take this on if others thought it was a good idea, but my laptop

[PD-dev] profiling expr

2010-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I've noticed with the pd-gui-rewrite build system, I have been setting the auto-vectorization on for expr and it seems to have many loops vectorized. Anyone have any ideas on profiling expr to see if it is making a difference? .hc --

Re: [PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
return; } A non-vised GOP now will have a x->gl_editor even though it doesn't have its own window. But if it receives a [vis 0(, then that non- vised GOP will have its gl_editor deleted. That doesn't seem quite right, right? .hc On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Hans-Chr

Re: [PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
i _think_ the gl_editor should be the GOP's own, not that of its parent. It's a structure parallel to that of the canvas itself, which supplies "rtext" memory space for each 'text' box in the canvas's gl_list list. cheers M On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:03:23P

Re: [PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
very, very hard to get working right. cheers M On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:15:16PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, more info on this solo thread. So it turns out that canvas_destroy_editor() calls glist_findrtext() which in turn calls canvas_create_editor(). That doesn&#x

Re: [PD-dev] UTF-8 for pd-devel (again)

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Miller, how about the UTF-8 patch? .hc On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: 127 is 'delete' -- ascii all right, but not 'printable'. cheers Miller On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:37:08PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Looks good to me. One comment,

Re: [PD-dev] UTF-8 for pd-devel (again)

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
x27;t figure out how to get at the properties dialog for number, number2, or any other gui-atom objects: should these be working already? marmosets, Bryan On 2010-01-18 23:09:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner appears to have written: Awesome! If its big and complicated, I say post it to

Re: [PD-dev] netsend (and more) crash bug SOLVED (patch included)

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So adding glist_noselect(x); to canvas_destroy_editor() seems to make sense. The rest I think it better solved elsewhere. Basically canvas_destroy_editor() calls glist_findrtext() which calls canvas_create_editor(): http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2010-01/014734.html .hc

Re: [PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
if (!gl->gl_editor) 360 canvas_create_editor(gl); 361 for (x = gl->gl_editor->e_rtext; x && x->x_text != who; x = x->x_next) 362 ; 363 if (!x) bug("glist_findrtext"); 364 return (x); 365 } .hc On Jan 19, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner

Re: [PD-dev] 0.42.5 mistery crash

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This would be great to have in the bug tracker, it crashes for me too on Pd-0.42.5-extended-20091217 on Mac OS X 10.5.8/Intel. .hc On Jan 10, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Michal Seta wrote: Hi all, I have this MEGA patch that I have been using for various things on and off. Sometimes I do not open

Re: [PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
is commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=10469 .hc On Jan 15, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: so I guess here is my question, is this how things are supposed to work in terms of GOP: - when a GOP is drawn on the parent, gl_editor s

[PD-dev] consistency check failed: canvas_vis

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
When sending a "vis 1" to a GOP subpatch, it produces a "consistency check failed: canvas_vis" though it seems to work fine. I am wondering if this is still supposed to be true: x == glist_getcanvas(x). In g_editor.c, canvas_vis() starts out with: void canvas_vis(t_canvas *x, t_floatarg

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-2933148 ] [pd-gui-rewrite] 'vis 1' to canvas moves window

2010-01-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 19, 2010, at 3:10 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: SourceForge.net wrote: Message: Unfortunately, the shifting does happen on Pd-vanilla, just less so. There doesn't seem to be a way in Tcl/Tk to measure the size of the window frame of X11 windows. Different window managers will ha

Re: [PD-dev] UTF-8 for pd-devel (again)

2010-01-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
htly) easier than I had feared :-/ marmosets, Bryan On 2009-03-20 18:39:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner appears to have written: I wonder what the best approach is to getting it included. I also think its a very valuable contribution. I think we need to first get the Tcl/Tk only changes done,

[PD-dev] setting the bug/patch tracker to login-only

2010-01-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I am thinking that we should set our bug and patch trackers so that you have login in order to post. While I do want to get as many bug reports as possible, from what I have seen, the anonymous reports almost always need a follow-up and are almost never followed up on. Or the

Re: [PD-dev] UTF-8 for pd-devel (again)

2010-01-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
s, Bryan On 2009-03-20 18:39:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner appears to have written: I wonder what the best approach is to getting it included. I also think its a very valuable contribution. I think we need to first get the Tcl/Tk only changes done, since that was the mandate of

Re: [PD-dev] pdwindow as syslog

2010-01-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:22 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" : makes sense. (the "verbose/syslog level tag" are rather "post", "error", "verbose?"; according to the Pd API) Hmm, I am not sure it makes sense to

Re: [PD-dev] pdwindow as syslog

2010-01-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:31 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" : please bear in mind that english is not my mother tongue. ...oh, it seems like the "linecolor?" does not finish the sentence. linecolor? is the tag name, this became clear to m

Re: [PD-dev] pdwindow as syslog

2010-01-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:13 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, I was just looking thru your pdwindow.tcl procs. It seems to me that those procs should just go all the way and implement a syslog-style system with the same levels. Then the Pd window could

Re: [PD-dev] Ignoring '5401': doesn't look like a Pd-file

2010-01-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 16, 2010, at 4:46 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: one could use the new ::pdwindow::verbose{} rather than post{}. but really the underlying problem should be fixed sooner than later. Warnings that happen every time rapidly become meaningless, and therefore

Re: [PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am trying to debug various issues with GOP and parent/child relationships. I am not quite clear on what x->gl_editor is supposed to be. Can anyone clue me in? The bug seems to be related to the fact that in canvas_vis(), pd doesn't quite know what x-

[PD-dev] what does x->gl_editor represent?

2010-01-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am trying to debug various issues with GOP and parent/child relationships. I am not quite clear on what x->gl_editor is supposed to be. Can anyone clue me in? The bug seems to be related to the fact that in canvas_vis(), pd doesn't quite know what x->gl_editor is supposed to be, sinc

[PD-dev] pdwindow as syslog

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, I was just looking thru your pdwindow.tcl procs. It seems to me that those procs should just go all the way and implement a syslog-style system with the same levels. Then the Pd window could have a little dropdown menu on the lower left to select which level to show. Atta

Re: [PD-dev] Ignoring '5401': doesn't look like a Pd-file

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:51 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, Everytime I run pd 0.43 from the command line like ./pd, I get this: Ignoring '5401': doesn't look like a Pd-file yes, here too :-) and i even know where it comes from... when you cal

Re: [PD-dev] allow to connect to remote host: ./pd-gui.tcl [[:]]

2010-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:31 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=12956 Just checking out your commits. The ./pd-gui.tcl [[:]] thanks stuff looks interesting, but your co

Re: [PD-dev] tkwait visibility .pdwindow.tcl.entry

2010-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:02 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, Any reason not to use the "tkwait visibility .pdwindow.tcl.entry" option? I think its preferable because it keeps things symmetic, i.e. grab/ungrab. It'll only c

[PD-dev] updated Window menu and logic for 0.43

2010-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, IOhannes and anyone else who is interested, Last night I committed another C-side changes to the pd-gui-rewrite branch, so I thought I'd explain it here. The original code would rebuild the whole window menu in 'pd' every time a canvas was vised or unvised, and when [pd] boxes

[PD-dev] tkwait visibility .pdwindow.tcl.entry

2010-01-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, Any reason not to use the "tkwait visibility .pdwindow.tcl.entry" option? I think its preferable because it keeps things symmetic, i.e. grab/ungrab. It'll only cause the GUI to pause, 'pd' will still keep loading. http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branc

[PD-dev] allow to connect to remote host: ./pd-gui.tcl [[:]]

2010-01-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=12956 Just checking out your commits. The ./pd-gui.tcl [[:]] stuff looks interesting, but your commit removed that stringent test, which might be needed if "wish pd-gui.tcl" is going to be able to handl

Re: [PD-dev] iemguts in next Pd-extended?

2010-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, Are you planning on keeping iemguts in the next Pd-extended release? i'm not planning anything. (i also cannot make any promises o

[PD-dev] time for Pd-extended 0.42 release branch

2010-01-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am going to make the Pd-extended 0.42 release branch ASAP. Are there any outstanding development efforts on externals that need to be completed before the branch? .hc "[W]e have invented the technology to elim

[PD-dev] iemguts in next Pd-extended?

2010-01-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, Are you planning on keeping iemguts in the next Pd-extended release? Its included now. .hc If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action

Re: [PD-dev] pd-gui-rewrite merging in 0.43

2010-01-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
.hc On Jan 1, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller and all, Happy New Year! I just reviewed the C code in the pd-gui-rewrite branch. There are a number of changes to the C code that have been included in the pd-gui-rewrite branch. There are two types of changes that

[PD-dev] pd-gui-rewrite merging in 0.43

2010-01-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller and all, Happy New Year! I just reviewed the C code in the pd-gui-rewrite branch. There are a number of changes to the C code that have been included in the pd-gui-rewrite branch. There are two types of changes that are included: - C changes obviated by the Tcl rewrite, thi

Re: [PD-dev] t_sample vs t_float in PDa vs vanilla

2010-01-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 1, 2010, at 4:22 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This would obviously work better that my code, but I still don't see the point of using a t_float there. All three lines are casting t_ints from w

Re: [PD-dev] t_sample vs t_float in PDa vs vanilla

2010-01-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:21 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Here's the code in question, from PDa: ah which reminds me of the thing i forgot in my last email: please add line numbers when you refer to a sepcific

Re: [PD-dev] (pd-gui-rewrite) navigating text with arrows bug

2010-01-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Strange, moving with arrows and getting arrow key names from [keyname] works fine in 10.5. 10.6 uses TkCocoa while earlier versions of Tcl/ Tk use TkCarbon. It would be worth asking on the tcl-mac list. For the object/message boxes, the bindings are set in pdtk_text.tcl in pdtk_text_new

Re: [PD-dev] t_sample vs t_float in PDa vs vanilla

2010-01-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:47 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am attempting a merge of the PDa integer code with Pd-vanilla 0.43. Vanilla now mostly had the t_sample/t_float stuff ironed out, but there are a few minor

[PD-dev] using t_time for clock functions

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Another thing Günter did in PDa is introduce t_time for the clock functions instead of using 'double' directly. Any reason not to include t_time in vanilla? +typedef long long t_time; EXTERN t_clock *clock_new(void *owner, t_method fn); -EXTERN void clock_set(t_clock *x, double systime);

[PD-dev] t_sample vs t_float in PDa vs vanilla

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am attempting a merge of the PDa integer code with Pd-vanilla 0.43. Vanilla now mostly had the t_sample/t_float stuff ironed out, but there are a few minor differences between the two that I am not sure of. Here's the first that is in a bunch of places, including in d_arithmetic.c:

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-cvs Digest, Vol 58, Issue 13

2009-12-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:41 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: pd-cvs-requ...@iem.at wrote: -- Message: 6 From: p...@macosx104-i386.idmi.poly.edu Subject: [PD-cvs] load_every_help 2009-12-14_22.51.01 To: pd-...@iem.at Message-ID: ___

[PD-dev] 'puredata' Debian sources moved to git

2009-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Paul Brossier has become the maintainer for the 'puredata' package and has put his files into the Debian git repo: http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/puredata.git;a=summary Therefore, I am removing trunk/packages/debian in favor of that git repo. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] Other install_name_tool fixes

2009-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, looks like a complicated issue. Could you file a bug report? .hc On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Patrick Boivin wrote: Hi Hans, I spotted some other forgotten install_name_tool fixes with MacOS 10.4 version of Pd-0.42.5-extended-20091214 autobuild for: ./Contents/lib/libavcodec.51.dylib

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended main window resize bug

2009-12-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its actually a bug in Tk, IIRC. I had a discussion on #tcl about it. I don't remember the detail , here's one descrtipn: : frame/toplevel/labelframes always make a geometry request whenever you [$w configure] them. If they have a geometry master, it will see the event, restart the ge

Re: [PD-dev] Problem with Snow Leopard and Flext

2009-12-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You want the 'bt' (backtrace) from gdb. Basically, you want to find out which function it triggering the segfault. .hc On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Miguel Sánchez Valdés wrote: I get this error: pd_gui: pd process exited accept: Interrupted system call (4) Pt_Start() called Program rece

Re: [PD-dev] how to debug segfaults in pd

2009-12-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For segfaults, I think that gdb is the best way to track it down. Once the segfault happens, you can get the backtrace (bt) to see where it happened. Then you can set breakpoint to make the execution stop at a certain point of the code, and step thru the code to see the values in the va

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended vs. gui-rewrite on X86_64 WAS: [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-12-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:30 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/11/12 András Murányi do all externals have the problem, or just a few? mmm, seems to me that none of them load. THat's an odd one. My guess is that perhaps the pd you are using and the externals that you are loading are differ

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I guess I didn't understand the nature of that issue. I haven't seen it. Tcl/Tk's bbox stuff seems to work with comments, do you mean IEMGUI text? .hc Hans, I really don't mean to be disrespectful but I am really getting frustrated by

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The problem is versioning. One of the goals of Pd-extended is to be compatible with the same version of Pd-vanilla, i.e. Pd-extended 0.40.3 can run anything that

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
email test that you should do to assess the problem of text size being misrepresented by tcl tk's bbox call. Ico Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: please see attached patch. it applies cleanly against 0.41.4 extended as well as 0.42.5

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: please see attached patch. it applies cleanly against 0.41.4 extended as well as 0.42.5 extended. ico It works for me Pd-extended 0.42.5-20091112, thanks for that. Sorry for the delay, its been a busy week. Two things I tried: - like th

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:14 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I have been trying what you have been posting, but I haven't found a clean patch or pd.tk.. The standard format for submitting code to most open source projects is a "diff -uw" patch. That's the best way to submit them if you want people

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Some quick comments.. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: By the way, is anyone from pure:dyne listening? It would be great to have some input from you. 1. The paths stuff: the status quo is fine, I don't understand what you are t

Re: [PD-dev] externals for timecoded vinyl

2009-12-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You should try the port yourself, its not hard. If you wrote these externals, then its just a few ifdefs. Here's an example of a Max/MSP object ported to Pd: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/io/xbee/ .hc On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:22 AM, komika wrote: an

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: But that means the definition of /usr/lib/pd has to be changed. We discussed these this at the last PdCon, and there was agreement on the fact that the three

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:16 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: I reparented the PdLab page to the FrontPage rather than the AutoBuildProcess page. The Pdlab is not only for the auto-builds, but also for devs to work on foreign

[PD-dev] new build machine: Mac OS X 10.4/Intel

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, In case you didn't already see it, we now have a Macbook Pro with a dead screen set up as a 10.4/Intel build server. Thanks for Greg Pond/ Sewanee for the donation of said Macbook. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Macosx104I386 .hc

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:49 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i recommend working on debian/sid, but this doesn't help me much if one of the autobuilds fails on the osx103 machine. i prefer to investigate directly what is going wrong on the failing machine

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This is the documentation of the auto-build process, the last step is where it rsyncs over the source tree, which is mainly for rsync's --delete for a real clean start. http://puredata.info/docs/deve

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The compelling reason is that 'pd' means multiple packages 'puredata', 'pd-extended', and perhaps others. Where is the harm in changing this? but there are so many tri

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The compelling reason is that 'pd' means multiple packages 'puredata', 'pd-extended', and perhaps others.

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:57 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: the svn client installed on the build-machine (/sw/bin/svn) is somewhat outdated (1.4.4) and refuses to "svn update" the sandbox. this seems to be a common problem on more of the build machines (e.g. i

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Additionally, I'd like to Debianize the directory names (i.e. / usr/lib/puredata) What's un-Debian about /usr/lib/pd? the package name is not "pd". alternatively, the package name could be cha

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Additionally, I'd like to Debianize the directory names (i.e. / usr/lib/puredata) What's un-Debian about /usr/lib/pd? the package name is not "pd". the package name

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: however, i don't see a really compelling reason why things should be moved from /usr/lib/pd to /usr/lib/puredata. it might be sufficient to symlink from /u/l/puredata to /u/

[PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-11-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, For the new 'puredata' package, I think we should add the user- installed paths that have been included with Pd-extended for a while now. Additionally, I'd like to Debianize the directory names (i.e. / usr/lib/puredata) and add /usr/lib/pd-externals for the install path for libra

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:35 AM, i...@vt.edu wrote: Please make either a diff/patch with only the scrolling stuff in it, or a version of the pd.tk with only the scrolling changes. If we are talking about the scrolling algorithm, then we should only be talking about that code, not ttk and other

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Please make either a diff/patch with only the scrolling stuff in it, or a version of the pd.tk with only the scrolling changes. If we are talking about the scrolling algorithm, then we should only be talking about that code, not ttk and other things that have nothing to do with scrolling

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Please see attached. This one should work seamlessly on pd-extended 0.42.5 with Linux (it has *not* been tested with other platforms even though the basic premise of the redesign is that it should). Ico FYI, it doesn't work on Mac OS X b

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi Hans! Let me prefix this by saying I think you and everyone else are doing great work with pd-extended. On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:19:45AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Chris McCormick wrote

Re: [PD-dev] bug when redrawing gop within gop inside a closed sub-patch

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: That's not a reason for removing it. I never said it was. It was simply icing on the cake, if you like: pd-extended exhibits a problem that pd-vanilla doesn't exactly because of this one line. Namely, this is the culprit for profuse canv

Re: [PD-dev] bug when redrawing gop within gop inside a closed sub-patch

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: So, if anyone is aware of the reason for its placement, it would be most helpful to learn more about that before making the final decision whether to keep/remove it. Because objectboxes and

Re: [PD-dev] pd vanilla/extended bug

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's a tough one. I made a simpler version of your bug patch with directions. But I agree, there is a lot of potential to GOP, but only if it is rock-solid. bug.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: All right. So, I've done some di

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:02:14AM +, Chris McCormick wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:24:18PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Chris McCormick wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but if this is a questio

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:10:34PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems that Günter is no longer updating the 'puredata' package, so I wanted to start the process of updat

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 19, 2009, at 1:58 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems that Günter is no longer updating the 'puredata' package, so I wanted to start the process of updating it. I am working on becoming

[PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It seems that Günter is no longer updating the 'puredata' package, so I wanted to start the process of updating it. I am working on becoming a Debian Maintainer, so I can get direct upload access. This is what I would like to address: - improved puredata.desktop for file associations, etc.

Re: [PD-dev] netsend (and more) crash bug SOLVED (patch included)

2009-11-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ico, You should post this to the patch tracker once you are ready to submit it. .hc On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:40 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Yay! Finally figured it out. Please disregard my netsend patch, it's basically treating symptoms rather than the source. It turns out that the pa

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Could you post the full pd.tk and the version of Pd its it supposed to work with? Also: - I attached a quick stab at turning your scrollbar logic into a 0.43 GUI plugin. It doesn't work because your code relies on Pd-extended 0.42 things, but if you make your algorithm into a plugin usi

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:35 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So I guess to make it localizable, it would have to be something like framesync/fps$1. Without a settable receive, it makes this kind of chore to deal with then

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
009, at 12:17 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: I think it's only in the e-mail: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2009-10/014298.html On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:12:50AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 3) 0 0 coordin

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 3) 0 0 coordinate-centric design IMHO does not make sense. From historical perspective, old patches should still TTBOMK open just fine. Yet, if 0 0 approach is still imposed, it results in unintuitive behavior of scrollbars. e.g. try the

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I rewrote the scrollbar logic in 0.43 and its working well, as far as I can tell. Have you tried it out? I think its a similar approach, but the difference is

Re: [PD-dev] auto-starting loaders

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:29 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be super userful to have an easy way to make the various loaders auto-load (Lua, Tcl, libdir, etc). For the 0.43 GUI plugins, currently, it will autoload any

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: (*) Pd has no non-globals, just obfuscated names.. Yeah, I also try to avoid globals as much as possible. With this library, its kind of mirroring the audio clock

Re: [PD-dev] auto-starting loaders

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be super userful to have an easy way to make the various loaders auto-load (Lua, Tcl, libdir, etc). I think it would be even more userful to have hexloader work for

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: 2009/11/16 : Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" : I am in the process of working on my 'framesync' library, and I just had a thought that I am not sure has come up before. Lots of times, we want to use send/recei

[PD-dev] auto-starting loaders

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It would be super userful to have an easy way to make the various loaders auto-load (Lua, Tcl, libdir, etc). For the 0.43 GUI plugins, currently, it will autoload any file called *-plugin.tcl anywhere in the path, so to install a 0.43 GUI plugin, you just drop the file into the Pd path a

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am in the process of working on my 'framesync' library, and I just had a thought that I am not sure has come up before. Lots of times, we want to use send/receives in reusable code, but wit

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:10 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" : I am in the process of working on my 'framesync' library, and I just had a thought that I am not sure has come up before. Lots of times, we want to use send/receives in reusa

[PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am in the process of working on my 'framesync' library, and I just had a thought that I am not sure has come up before. Lots of times, we want to use send/receives in reusable code, but with a global namespace, there is the potential for nameclashes. So I propose that for libraries, w

[PD-dev] ubuntu/karmic nightly builds

2009-11-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I updated the Ubuntu/intrepid server to Karmic so we'll have 9.10 nightlies now. .hc I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of thes

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-11-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:13 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/11/9 IOhannes m zmoelnig András Murányi wrote: >> > Apparently, pd-gui-rewrite still doesn't load the libs, no ELF32 messages > any more but all "couldn't load" plus a few "unknown sybol" errors. which "unknown symbols"? obviously th

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-11-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:59 PM, András Murányi wrote: ...and i got my package successfully built on Hardy 8.04 amd64. Thanks Hans! It starts up and seems to run smoothly - there's just some font weirdness. I imagined that upon this, pd-gui-rewite would happily load the libraries but it's

Re: [PD-dev] install_name_tool fixes for Pd-extended 0.42.5 OSX

2009-11-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks for the bug report, please try again tomorrow and see if I fixed it with this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=12721 .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Patrick Boivin wrote: Hi, I just installed Pd-extended 0.42.5 auto-build from 2009-1

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You need to 'svn up'. .hc On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:29 AM, patrick wrote: thank you very much Hans, everything is working (only Bitstream Vera is missing). pat ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev --

Re: [PD-dev] two patches for pd vanilla and pd-extended 0.42.5

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 2) graph on parent (GOP) enable and then immediately disable crashes patches that haven't been closed prior to disabling GOP (to reproduce, open new patch->right-click->properties->enable gop->apply->disable gop->apply->crash). This one

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