[PD-dev] Re: [PD] building HID from the CVS, errors

2006-08-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
David Merrill wrote: Hello all, hi. i am redirecting this to pd-dev, since i hope this mail will lead to some further dev-specific discussion and hopefully to some usable build system. Has anyone else had a problem trying to compile an external from the CVS source? I just checked out

Re: [PD-dev] argcargv and dollarexpansion

2006-08-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: just to revive this discussion: i have submitted a patch to the tracker, which enables the expansion of $# (argc) and $@ (argv). [$#( could be considered as an implementation of [list length] (and vice versa) which basically means, that [$#( is redundant, as soon

Re: [PD-dev] configuration : .pdrc, preference dialog... s-lang

2006-09-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you already know the intricacies of Mac OS X, for example, why should you have to learn some other random thing? Mac OS X and Debian illustrate this concept very clearly. In Debian _all_ packages are configured

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 9

2006-09-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: The following message from pd-cvs has no cvs log. Is this normal? Modified Files: ringbuffer.c ringbuffer.h Log Message: Many bug fixes isn't Many bug fixes a cvs log? if you are wondering, why there have been no diffs between r1.11 and r1.12 in the

Re: [PD-dev] [once] default closed...

2006-09-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: IOhannes stuck [once] into the purepd library. I started that library true as a DEVELOPMENT library to explore ideas of how to implement things in sorry, i had no idea you intended it like that. i always thought that purepd would be a replacement for

Re: [PD-dev] Using PD just as an API

2006-09-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jarbas Jacome wrote: Brothers, is it possible to use PD just as code API, without using its GUI? I mean, for example, create a program with a completely diferent GUI for PD? Or make a program without interface at all. Any good example of something like that? pd -nogui seriously, there have

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be very nice to have FFTW in Pd, its really much much faster. .hc On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Well, I started coding for fftw-2, then found out it had already been replaced with fft-3, then decided that perhaps I should just

[PD-dev] corelibs, build system

2006-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
corelibs is currently broken due to a renaming of pd/src/d_mayer_fft.c to pd/src/d_fft_mayer.c while i updated the corelibs/generate.sh script to handle this, it still does not really work with the autobuild-system. the reason for this is (imo) the very complicated stacking of Makefiles

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Tim Blechmann wrote: what makes you think, that this is similar in text-based languages? i think script language here did not mean text-based language (ignoring the etymology of script), but rather interpreted language. mfg.adsr IOhannes ___

[PD-dev] scripts/nightly-build.sh

2006-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
excerpt from scripts/nightly-build.sh snip # GNU/Linux if [ ${UNAME} == Darwin ]; then cd packages/linux_make fi /snip it would be nice if such magic would be documented ;-) mfg.adsr. IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

[PD-dev] autobuild logs

2006-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi all, hi hcs would it be possible to do the rsync without the verbose (-v) flag? even though rsync's manpage says that --delete s oh so dangerous and to be used with care, i think that this care has already been taken. so for me, this verbosity is really annoying in the logs. mfasdr

Re: [PD-dev] corelibs, build system

2006-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: did not ask at all. d_mayer_fft.c is the name of the file in 0.39.2. You have broken compilation for Pd-extended. because corelibs IS broken, even without my changes (which tried to fix what was going on) Check the build logs from the auto-build farm for the

Re: [PD-dev] corelibs, build system

2006-10-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: what i did (try to) do, was to modify your build system in a way, that it could handle both cases. (and the build system has serious problems with this) Is this urgent? well no, but pd-0.40.1 is out now... How about waiting until we get the 0.39.2

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1371511 ] declaration of `y1' shadows a global declaration

2006-10-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
SourceForge.net wrote: Comment By: Mathieu Bouchard (matju) Date: 2006-10-18 09:47 Whatever about calling functions y0,y1,yn, they've been there since almost the beginning of unix. They're Bessel functions defined in math.h. You won't be able to move them out of it. oh, i see. i didn't know

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1371511 ] declaration of `y1' shadows a global declaration

2006-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think its a really bad idea to name functions using names that have existing in standard headers for decades, especially when that header is i do not recall any function in pd with a name y1(). it is a simple stupid variable, with a _quite_ descriptive name

[PD-dev] Re: zexyconf.h conflicts

2006-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am getting conflicts just my using your build stuff. Could you remove zexyconf.h from CVS since its dynamically generated? Otherwise this will require manual intervention after automatic builds. RCS file: /cvsroot/pure-data/externals/zexy/src/zexyconf.h,v

[PD-dev] Re: zexy build error on Windows XP/MinGW

2006-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: gcc -DPD -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -mcpu=i586 -mtune=pentium3 -I/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/pd/src -W -ggdb -mms-bitfields -DMSW -DNT -D'O_NONBLOCK=1' -D'srand48(n)=srand((n))' -D'drand48()=((double)rand()/RAND_MAX)'

[PD-dev] Re: config.h enhancements

2006-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi Hans Steiner wrote: Just a thought: Miller has started, just barely, to use a config.h generated by ./configure in pd/src. How about adding the stuff that you have in zexyconf.h there? Then every library can benefit. For now, we can just use patches in the Pd-extended build until

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1609736 ] [pix_movie] and [pix_film] only play solid colors

2006-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
SourceForge.net wrote: This also happens on Ubuntu, so its not OS-specific. I guess I forgot to mention that. The above Dell Dimension is running Ubuntu Dapper. Is there a certain set of ./configure options to try? please check whether this is related to rectangle-textures (by using

Re: [PD-dev] slowing down dsp function inside perform loop

2006-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! since pd-0.40 you can do DSP-on-demand, by banging the [switch~] object. i have not tested, but it might be, that this DSP-operation is in the message queue. what do you mean by that ? by what? there are 2 parts which might be problematic. mfg.adr IOhannes

Re: [PD-dev] branch-v0-39-2-extended created

2006-12-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: I created a release branch called branch-v0-39-2-extended last night following the instructions here: http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Branching I will be making commits to all sections of that branch in order to fix things and get things working.

[PD-dev] mrpeach/net/tcpserver

2006-12-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
i just discovered a bug in mrpeach/net/tcpserver the break in mrpeach/net/tcpserver.c:420 effectively makes the broadcast message useless. is there any reason for this? can i change the file? mfg.adr IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] mrpeach/net/tcpserver

2006-12-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get: if(argc 2) on line 420, so I don't get it... oops, you are totally right. vi tells me it is line #459, but by (x)emacs tells me it is line #420. this is what you get, when you are trying to be overly cool and just provide a bare minimum on information...

Re: [PD-dev] branch-v0-39-2-extended created

2006-12-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 11, 2006, at 11:45 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: I created a release branch called branch-v0-39-2-extended last night following the instructions here: http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Branching I will be making

Re: [PD-dev] iem16 compilation problem on osx

2007-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Thomas Grill wrote: Am 16.01.2007 um 16:13 schrieb Georg Holzmann: Hallo! i already submitted patches for this and other issues with IEM sources to the patch tracker a while ago. IEM stuff doesn't correctly deal with Mac/Intel endianness at the moment. hm ... I can't find that patches

Re: [PD-dev] Cross-compiling for Windows on Debian

2007-01-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/3.4.5/../../../../i586-mingw32msvc/bin/ld: cannot find -lpd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [rvbap.dll] Error 1 Oops, do I read this correctly, that on

Re: [PD-dev] Cross-compiling for Windows on Debian

2007-01-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: Oops, do I read this correctly, that on Windows (or *for* Windows) I need to have some kind of pd.dll to compile an external? And that means, I need to cross-compile Pd first? Hm, sorry for talking to

Re: [PD-dev] string type for pd

2007-01-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: Thomas Grill wrote: Hi Martin, many thanks for your initiative, it is greatly appreciated! yes, me too! The [str] object contains the other functions, you can see them in str.c in /externals/mrpeach/str. i think that if pd provides the infrastructure, then it also

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: Request for dev access

2007-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
carmen wrote: I'd also still be interested in getting us over to Subversion, if there is still a supportive group for this? I've maintained several SVN repos now, and feel a bit more up to the task of organizing the project. there are definitely a lot of supporters for this. i think the main

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: Request for dev access

2007-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hardware, backups and the like (even if we only means me) the bad thing is that sourceforge is really overloaded. the good thing about the 2nd is, that the repository is under our full control. we

Re: [PD-dev] tcl 8.5 help browser bug and a fix

2007-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: I wonder if the old-fashioned idea of just using the file browser should be available as at least an option... Yes! ;) me too mnfg.ydr IOhannes ___

Re: [PD-dev] compile partconv~ for intelmac

2007-03-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi. Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi Developers, in particular Inte-Mac Users ;-) well probably i shouldnt even try, but i would like to test partconv on an intel mac. So i am trying to compile it myself, which, well...i dont really have enough background knowledge. good (i mean,

Re: [PD-dev] Separating GUI from the engine in PD

2007-03-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Pierpaolo Marcon wrote: I'm trying to put Pd on a DSP processor, but I need to separate completely the Pd engine from the GUI. Does anybody knows if it is available on the web the Pd engine code? (without GUI) pd -nogui will launch pd without gui (no X or whatsoever needed) pd -guiport

Re: [PD-dev] vbap in cvs

2007-03-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo Peter+Hans! Yeah, they aren't hurting anything, they've been there a looong time. So might as well keep them. Yes, but IMHO the cvs is not here for binaries ! (and then why only vbap?) i agree with georg that they should be removed. they should be zipped

Re: [PD-dev] developer access ?

2007-03-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi developers, i am working on a cleaned version of a mac OSX extended Installer and i am almost there. Is thee a place where i can put it so that others can download it ??? Do i need dev-acces for that (sourceforge, wiki-page) ? just if you haven't noticed:

Re: [PD-dev] developer access ?

2007-03-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Are you sure? I think you mean Luke Iannini, not Luigi Rensinghoff. oh, might be; sorry for the confusion...but the subject was so similar... Hm sorry guys... i am talking about a file that is 70 MB. And for some reason the ftp acces doesnt work. I tried all

[PD-dev] iem_matrix

2007-03-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
just to make sure: iem_matrix is totally deprecated in favour of iemmatrix. it should not be added to the pd-extended build-system. instead it should be removed from the pd-extended build-system. (i don't want to break the build-system so i won't do it ;-)) sooner or later i will remove it from

Re: [PD-dev] iem_matrix

2007-03-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! just to make sure: iem_matrix is totally deprecated in favour of iemmatrix. it should not be added to the pd-extended build-system. instead it should be removed from the pd-extended build-system. (i don't want to break the build-system so i won't do it ;-))

Re: [PD-dev] zexy with regex in Pd-extended ?

2007-04-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Sure, I thought it was already. regex.h is already installed on all of the auto-build machines. I guess someone just needs to fix the compilation. A bug report would probably be good to keep track of it. hmm, this is very weird: zexy's configure does find

Re: [PD-dev] vbap in cvs

2007-04-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be good to keep the sourceforge page uncluttered, and adding all these sections would make it much more cluttered than it already is. But I do think it's a good idea to post the binaries one a website and remove them from CVS. i don't think that this

Re: [PD-dev] External compilation linux-windows

2007-04-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Nicolas Montgermont wrote: It seems mingw32msvc can't find any pd function... but the linux to linux part works well (see attached) Do someone understand where is the error? Or better, already have a makefile to cross compile? Sorry if it's stupid, I'm not really used to makefiles... you

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] zexy: ~, ~, ==~ not working on osx: hexloader problem?

2007-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
moved this to pd-dev... Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 18, 2007, at 11:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: how should i proceed? Hmm, I like the idea of encapsulating the hexloader code, but I think if the hexloader is a separate loader, then the other loaders won't benefit from

[PD-dev] sysloader problem

2007-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi miller, all. i am currently having troubles implementing the hexloader as a system-loader. while things work rather straightforward in external/library land, it stops being trivial when it comes to loading abstractions via a system-loader. (this is needed since the hexloader mainly applies a

Re: [PD-dev] add_string_support.patch

2007-04-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just noticed this in the build logs. Looks like the patch isn't applied at all. I think the problem is that there is a relative path in the filenames, while the working ones just have the filename, i.e. this doesn't work: |--- pd/src/g_text.c 4 Oct

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] opencv motion tracker external HELP!

2007-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Nose Hair wrote: I think I figured it out. It looks like I have to use t_symbol *sym instead of t_symbol sym and the outlet has to be x-outlet_new(x- x_outlet0, *sym). That seemed to work. The weird problem I am having now it I get an error with the return(void *)x; I get error:

[PD-dev] iem16 troubles

2007-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 04:32:12 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pd User) Subject: [PD-cvs] autobuild: pd-extended macosx104-powerpc 2007-05-30 03.15.04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PD-dev] iem16 troubles

2007-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! just to reiterate myself: i can compile and run iem16 on linux and os-x as a _library_. yes, but also only if you NOT declare table16_class as static, which leads to the compile error on osx ... yes, sorry if this is unclear: the reason for all this is that

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1738708 ] won't open files with $0 in file name

2007-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: still frank is right when he says you shouldn't upload filenames with spaces to the sf tracker... and i add that you shouldn't use filenames with spaces at all. (though you could try to name your directories AUX, which is fun too...) on rereading this, i want to add

Re: [PD-dev] changing netsend [was: automatically send lists with [udpsend]]

2007-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: might be that my reasoning is not completely in-line with pd-vanilla (compare the send message to [netsend]) At first I thought, changing [netsend] so that it behaves the same would be cool as well, however [netreceive] differentiates between foo 1 and list foo 1.

Re: [PD-dev] cleanup of CVS

2007-07-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Chris McCormick wrote: 1. IEM? (is this an option?) pros: cons: lots of work for IOhannes. 2. savanna.nongnu.org pros: cons: 3. Rent a dedicated server. pros: we have total control. cons: we have to install and set up. costs money. i do not fully understand the difference between

Re: [PD-dev] cleanup of CVS

2007-07-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Chris McCormick wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 11:50:00AM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Chris McCormick wrote: 1. IEM? (is this an option?) pros: cons: lots of work for IOhannes. 2. savanna.nongnu.org pros: cons: 3. Rent a dedicated server. pros: we have total control. cons: we

[PD-dev] [pd-cvs]: externals/ggee/gui envgen.c, 1.10, 1.11 (Hans-Christoph Steiner)

2007-07-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log Message: added error report to [sustain( message --- 203,209 { if (f 0 f x-last_state) ! x-sustain_state = f; ! else ! post(ERROR: sustain value not betweem 0 and %f,x-last_state); } tip of the day: there are 2

Re: [PD-dev] [pd-cvs]: externals/ggee/gui envgen.c, 1.10, 1.11 (Hans-Christoph Steiner)

2007-07-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log Message: added error report to [sustain( message --- 203,209 { if (f 0 f x-last_state) ! x-sustain_state = f; ! else ! post(ERROR: sustain value not betweem 0 and %f,x-last_state

Re: [PD-dev] GPLv3

2007-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, I am thinking of changing my license to GPLv3. The only forseeable problem would be if people have taken out the or (at your option) any later version from the standard GPLv2 text, thereby tying the code to only the GPLv2. is there a reason for

Re: [PD-dev] PD-cvs Digest, Vol 29, Issue 11

2007-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 6 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:34:40 + From: Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD-cvs] externals/mrpeach/osc packOSC-help.pd, 1.6, 1.7 packOSC.c, 1.6, 1.7 unpackOSC.c, 1.3, 1.4 routeOSC-help.pd, 1.2, 1.3 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PD-dev] PD-cvs Digest, Vol 29, Issue 11

2007-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: one solution might be to use negative delays: delaying objects, such as [delay] and [pipe] just ignore negative values (so they behave the same as when fed with 0), but the user has the option to determine whether the message arrived to late and can act accordingly (e.g.

Re: [PD-dev] recursion in Gem - a tutorial

2007-07-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Patrice Colet wrote: I tried to make DLLs of nrepeat and nnrepeat, but it seems I'm too ignoramus to find out how to proceed, I've entered those lines in the msys shell i haven't had a look at the tutorial files, but i was wondering why you couldn't build [nrepeat] (i haen't seen [nnrepeat]

Re: [PD-dev] please add 'mokhov' to pure-data at SF.net

2007-07-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Serguei A. Mokhov wrote: Hi, hi serguei I will soon be completing my PD external(s) for the upcoming PDCon07. I would like to able to commit them to the PD repo once I am ready. For this, could you please add SF.net 'mokhov' to the project. as we (at least: i) do not know anything about

Re: [PD-dev] pdstring's crashing

2007-07-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Bryan Jurish wrote: moin again, the fastest lurker on the list... the new code has been checked into cvs as externals/moocow/pdstring v0.04 ... let me know if it works (or doesn't)... and send me some sequence of inputs that reproduces the error if you can find one... thanks bryan. i

Re: [PD-dev] any2string problem

2007-07-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: There is a glitch in any2string that is stopping Pd-extended from building: i fixed that yesterday. and it is rather a glitch in the assumptions the externals/build/src/ makes than in the pdstring, which just builds perfectly. mf.adsr IOhannes

Re: [PD-dev] PD externals/extras/OSC and RT and JACK

2007-09-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 3) I found the source to OSCx on SourceForge, but it looks ancient (i.e. from 2002), which includes it's own statically-linked (and very old) version of libosc. Is that really the latest release? I'm thrilled that PD makes working with MIDI so easy, but I

[PD-dev] state-saving / properties in abstractions...

2007-09-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi all. after talking to hans at the convention, i have created 2 new externals: [propertybang]: outputs a bang when you select the property menu-item for the abstraction that holds this object. [saveargs]: allows you to change the arguments of the abstraction that holds this object in the next

Re: [PD-dev] state-saving / properties in abstractions...

2007-09-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Wow, awesome! You beat me to the whole thing. Can't wait to try them. iemlib is fine by me, as long as it doesn't restrict your access to them. since thomas is unavailable for the next 2 weeks, i just decided to put them into another new library iemguts

Re: [PD-dev] kiosk mode (was: Re: [ pure-data-Patches-1529010 ] kiosk-mode)

2007-09-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
marius schebella wrote: great! can you explain how kiosk mode is invoked? is there a flag at start up, or can I change to kiosk mode during runtime? or is it a totally different version than the normal pd and I can only run either/or? can you send a screenshot how it looks? is it already

Re: [PD-dev] cleaning up the list of developers

2007-09-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Tim Blechmann wrote: i am not really a fan of removing people from a project, but maybe one could distinguish between 'active' and 'retired' developers ... retired developers should loose their cvs access, but still kept in the sourceforge developer lists ... i agree with hans that i don't

Re: [PD-dev] cvs access

2007-09-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
David Plans Casal wrote: a documentation duplication can be found at http://puredata.info/dev/cvs, where the information is correct. Hrm. Perhaps we could merge? or is that page duplicated for a reason? no! you might break the carefully thought of layout :-) mfga.sdr IOhannes PS: i

Re: [PD-dev] kiosk mode (was: Re: [ pure-data-Patches-1529010 ] kiosk-mode)

2007-09-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:47 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: That sounds quite handy. It should definitely be in some lib somewhere. well, it already is in some lib: toxy (my patch is really just one of the example-patches slightly modified) Unfortunately

[PD-dev] repository layout

2007-09-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi. after the talk about svn at the pd-con, it seems like there is a general ok from the community, if somebody would be willing to perform the actual migration. actually i could be this volunteer. ad miller: there exist migration paths from both cvs and svn to git, so svn would do no harm

Re: [PD-dev] repository layout

2007-09-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: - moved abstractionsextensionsxguiFramestein into externals good thing, as long as abstractions does not become a subfolder of externals... but I would rather have it under a common name that isn't abstractions nor

Re: [PD-dev] repository layout

2007-09-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As for 'scripts', there needs to be a place for all the scripts needed to build Pd-extended. Whether that's also the place for bash_completion, etc, that's a separate question. but since it is the pd-repository rather than the pd-extended repository, it

Re: [PD-dev] repository layout: tags

2007-09-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: #TAGS:misc import (htdocs pd-msg aenv~ bsaylor susloop~ svf~ vadsr~ xgui zhzxh~) These tags are useful for handling imported code that is maintained elsewhere. thats what the documentation says. have you ever made any use of the useful thing? Does SVN

Re: [PD-dev] repository layout

2007-09-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Winfried Ritsch wrote: Hello, I just missed the pdconv, so how is the authorization for the repository planed ? Is it possible to restrict access to a subfolder ? no, since the plan is to stay with sourceforge for now, there is still no way to restrict write access to submodules (afaik).

Re: [PD-dev] repository layout

2007-09-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Plus, what about adding Gem back to the main pure-data repository? why? - everything else is in that repository ? - makes for one checkout for everything see my random mentions of svn:externals - makes it easy to make branches and tags for the whole

Re: [PD-dev] repository layout

2007-09-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: however, once we have moved to SVN i would like to make an experimental branch of pd-extended to re-work the entire build-system into small (managable) pieces that are modular and survive directory re-structuring. i know that you are not really interested

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1738289 ] View list listview broken for arrays with $0 in name

2007-09-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
SourceForge.net wrote: Bugs item #1738289, was opened at 2007-06-16 12:06 File Added: array_viewlist.diff i was just wondering: when a bug-report gets a fix (e.g. a patch-file), should it be moved from the bugs section to the patches section or should it stay within the bugs. the question

Re: [PD-dev] ask for cvs access

2007-09-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
federico wrote: just a question about how layout is organized in cvs... I think I'm going to create a directory in toplevel (say externals/ffgx) where to put my externs, but I would like to put also 'tclpd' in a separate directory in toplevel (externals/tclpd) cause I'm willing more people

Re: [PD-dev] error handlers

2007-09-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ed Kelly wrote: I think, IOhannes, if you could explain to me precisely how to use this function, I would be willing to (slowly) go through and make some changes. This is a massive hole in PD! i think you are mistaken on the powers of error(): this function is really just a version of

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] external questions

2007-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Atte André Jensen wrote: Hi I'm writing my second external, an arpeggiator called arp. I know I was encouraged to write it as an abstraction, but the exact features that I wanted seemed too overwhelming for a pd-newbie. Anyways, I have two questions: 1) Whenever I instantiate it in

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] external questions

2007-09-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Atte André Jensen wrote: Aha. So I should simply remove the above lines, right? right. To remove the risk of name clashes between my external and others, right? right. I'm now subscribed to that also, thanks! right. mfa.sdr IOhannes ___

Re: [PD-dev] RE : [PD] Manual conversion of a Pure Data file in Max/MSP

2007-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
CUNHA Claudio wrote: But I must to convert a PD patch in Max/MSP and the problem is that I am not the person who creates the PD patch... If I don't know the original order of the PD patch how can I use the triggers well, if the original Pd patch does not use triggers to explicitely

Re: [PD-dev] can pdvjtools have a place in your cvs external repository?

2007-10-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just test graph on parents, and it' not working. the trick is basically to replace : now this is what i call a reason to use a repository and maintain the code :-) fmadsr. IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list

Re: [PD-dev] Gem question on pix_record

2007-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
chris clepper wrote: I uncommented it which is the correct behavior compared to the original recordQT object. i don't know why it has been removed. however, why don't we just use a separate outlet (or a different message) to indicate the end of recording? i am not a very big fan of ambigous

Re: [PD-dev] autobuild mysteries

2007-10-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ed Kelly wrote: Haha! I hope subversion is more user friendly, but I guess it's just slightly different! no, this was one of the motivation to write subversion in the first place: to not distinguish between files and directories on the version-control level. fgmas.dr IOhannes

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD]sys_vgui()?

2007-10-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Lluis Gómez i Bigordà wrote: hi list, just a question about sys_vgui() ... i'm trying to get some info about a widget on the pd canvas, but sys_vgui() is declared to retun void ... so i cannot get anything using this function ... there is another way to run tcl/tk scripts in the pd

Re: [PD-dev] enabling compiler optimization/strict aliasing

2007-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: mrpeach/osc/packOSC.c mrpeach/osc/unpackOSC.c i thought at least these 2 have been fixed with recent versions of osc, haven't they? fmader IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.3-extended released!

2007-10-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Finally, it's done! The most polished release of Pd yet. We are further refining Pd into a truly powerful and usable programming platform. great and congratulations. does this also mean that the pd-0.39-extended bug's in the tracker are fixed and can be

[PD-dev] removing inactive devs

2007-10-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
finally, i would like to do the removal of inactive users from the long list of sf-developers. 12 users have never committed anything, 26 users have not committed anything within the last 2 years. i would like to send this email (of no one objects) to each of them, and after a one week period

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 26, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Any specific suggestions? You mean casting as (entry_class) or something like that? you have to copy the struct definitions from whereever to your file. look at iem/iemguts/src/saveargs.c fmasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: t_canvas *canvas = (t_canvas*)glist_getcanvas(glist); t_atom *ap = binbuf_getvec(canvas-gl_obj.te_binbuf); t_symbol *s = atom_getsymbol(ap); ah, you seem to have found the same thing that i just thought about

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: And as an experiment, I made a new autobuild called pd-main+libs, which is Pd straight from the HEAD of MAIN and the rest of Pd- extended. None of the patches are included tho, so it

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, well, the way Pd gets it is looking in the binbuf. But perhaps you need to look in the binbuf for the object you're looking at, not that of the containing canvas, no? Or, on the other hand. perhaps you're trying to get the name of the abstraction the object is

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: We have a winner! :D darn, i just finished an example that works as well fmasdr. IOhannes /** * * myname - implementation file * * copyleft (c) IOhannes m zm-bölnig-A * *

Re: [PD-dev] pdp's mmx support

2007-10-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just saw that PDP has some MMX assembly (old school ;). Do you think it would be worth turning on, even tho MMX seems to be deprecated? why is MMX deprecated? especially, why do you consider MMX deprecated when there is no SSE2 code instead? mfg.asdr

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Perhaps atom_getsymbol(binbuf_getvec(x-x_obj.te_binbuf)) could be defined in m_pd.h as something like class_getclassname this is along the lines of what i tried to suggest in my initial reply to this thread (in the sf-ticket) in addition to that i would like

Re: [PD-dev] pdp's mmx support

2007-10-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Well, AFAIK, there is no further development on MMX, while there is with there is: it is called SSE SSE. And it seems that SSE is meant to replace MMX, instead of complement it. Plus if IIRC, MMX has some serious drawbacks to it. It i don't know of

Re: [PD-dev] pdp's mmx support

2007-10-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do MMX and SSE have different instruction sets? If so, is SSE preferred over MMX? yes they have different instruction sets: MMX can only handle integer values, while SSE can only handle floating point values. (only SSE2 added floating point support) SSE2 is

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This looks good. How about storing the symbols somewhere to save some symbol table lookups? ??? why not? (one could also implement the storage function in MMX (or SSE2) to save another 3 cycles :-)) not that the idea is bad or something, but i don't think

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: [PD] patch for dollar sign fix in pd-extended?

2007-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Rich E wrote: Hi all, i still don't fully understand how this relates to the dollar sign fix patch in the subject. fmar. IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] removing inactive devs: done

2007-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi i have removed some inactive developers from the sf-project. the list of devs shortened a bit, as 1 dev happened to get onto the list by accident and another one promised to do something in the near future. if i still have deleted somebody by accident, they should tell me so that they can

Re: [PD-dev] # converted to $

2007-11-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems that somewhere in Pd # chars are being converted to $ chars. I imagine this is support Max users who are used to #1 vars. But I don't know of any use of # in Pd and I would like to be able to use webcolors

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