Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: Maybe the Max/MSP reference manual, page 656? Quoting: [...] type of number, converting the input items as necessary). If no argument is typed in, unpack will have two int outlets. Symbol arguments allow symbols to pass through, and change numbers

Re: [PD] GEM installation OS 10.3.9 how do I do it?

2007-07-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Daniel Zajicek wrote: I have downloaded PD, and have been trying to get GEM to work for most of today. I have downloaded Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc4-macosx104-powerpc.dmg from Han's site (http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html), but I continually get errors saying: iemabs: can't load library

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-23 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Patrice, Patrice Colet wrote: Derek Holzer a écrit : * [expr 6/f$1] I always do this typo, ;) Sorry, but ? Did I put one too many zeros or something? d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 22: Be less

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Patrice, Patrice Colet wrote: Derek Holzer a écrit : * [expr 6/f$1] I always do this typo, ;) Sorry, but ? Did I put one too many zeros or something? 's|f\$|$f|g' mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-23 Thread Derek Holzer
This is the thread of cryptic responses, I see ;-) So it's: [expr 6/$f1] d. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: * [expr 6/f$1] I always do this typo, ;) Sorry, but ? Did I put one too many zeros or something? 's|f\$|$f|g' -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl :::

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-23 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
lol I wish it were $f6/1 (hex dollars of course) On 7/23/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the thread of cryptic responses, I see ;-) So it's: [expr 6/$f1] d. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: * [expr 6/f$1] I always do this typo, ;) Sorry, but ? Did I put

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi tom i bought them in an ordinary electronic store in my town for ca. 3 euros/piece. but i don't know where they got them. they still have around 1000 pieces, iirc. i had the impression, that this solenoids are as ordinary things as electro motors and resistors and thus should be available in

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-23 Thread Andy Farnell
straw + 300m of 32 SWG copper wire + iron nail + lots of patience = solenoid I used to make these as a kid, mini rail guns to fire nails :) You can rig up a slow spinning drill to help you wind them quicker. Watch they don't get too hot and melt the drinking straw. Resistance should be about

Re: [PD] default value for an abstraction's creation argument

2007-07-23 Thread robbert van hulzen
nice. thanks for that one. Frank Barknecht wrote: Arguments, that you don't specify, get initialized as 0. So instead of [moses 1] you could also use [select 0] and omit the [t b]. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: I think, the usefulness, type-checking can have, is obvious, otherwise we wouldn't have C. Of course, sometimes it's a pain, otherwise we wouldn't have other languages. I don't think that the choice of C vs other languages is just a matter of type

[PD] Loading movies

2007-07-23 Thread Paul Verity Smith
Am attempting to load movies on a Mac G5 Intel (dual core Intel Xeon 2.66 Ghz) running PD-0.39.2-extended - test 7 and am unable to load quicktime movies. When we click on the file it reads 0 frames in Pix Film regardless of the actual length of the movies which are rendered using Motion JPEG B.

Re: [PD] Loading movies

2007-07-23 Thread chris clepper
Do you see a Quicktime error posted in the console? GEM uses bog standard QT API calls used by other QT applications, so a clip that works in one should work in the others. The gemwindow message is not an error. On 7/23/07, Paul Verity Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am attempting to load

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: But to return to the original question, if my 'improvement' of pack destroys the nice symmetry of pack and unpack arguments, this certainly calls the design of unlack into question, since the only reason its arguments are as they are is that they were

Re: [PD] polygon object

2007-07-23 Thread Timon Botez
Sorry, I do mean the [polygon] object in Gem - not curve. Curve appears to be restricted to some 10 points. Ill look into the forced rendering stuff - although not entirely sure how it helps. Thanks for pointer. Couldnt get linked download. T. Hallo, Timon Botez hat gesagt: // Timon

Re: [PD] polygon object

2007-07-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Timon Botez hat gesagt: // Timon Botez wrote: Sorry, I do mean the [polygon] object in Gem - not curve. Curve appears to be restricted to some 10 points. Ill look into the forced rendering stuff - although not entirely sure how it helps. Thanks for pointer. Ah, sorry, I

[PD] Control X,Y position of main Pd window at startup?

2007-07-23 Thread Bjoern Hartmann
Is there a way to control at which position the main Pd window appears on the screen on startup? For an individual patch, I can write desired values into the canvas definition line #N canvas X Y ... in the patch's pd file - but what about the main window/console? I suspect this may be possible by

[PD] GEM pix_buffer

2007-07-23 Thread Derek Holzer
A couple questions: First: I assume that reading images from [pix_buffer] is less CPU intensive than decoding a video file with [pix_film]. Is that true? Second (and assuming the first statement is true): is there a way to dump a whole video into [pix_buffer] without doing it frame-by-frame?

Re: [PD] GEM pix_buffer

2007-07-23 Thread chris clepper
On 7/23/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple questions: First: I assume that reading images from [pix_buffer] is less CPU intensive than decoding a video file with [pix_film]. Is that true? Yes. Reading and writing a pix_buffer is at most a memory copy operation. Second (and

Re: [PD] GEM pix_buffer

2007-07-23 Thread chris clepper
On 7/23/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the problem... we're long on memory and short on CPU with the patch I'm working on. I hoped I could use [pix_buffer] to get some of that CPU back at the expense of a lot of RAM... Besides, I couldn't preload *all* my clips with the 'ram'

Re: [PD] Control X,Y position of main Pd window at startup?

2007-07-23 Thread Bjoern Hartmann
I'll answer my own question - in file pd.tk, at the end of the main window set up section, after lines wm title . Pd . configure -menu .mbar -width 200 -height 150 add the following line to control main window position at startup: wm geometry . +x+y where (x,y) is the offset in pixels from the

[PD] Expr does not play well with ints?

2007-07-23 Thread B. Bogart
Hey all, So I've been doing lots of calculations with expr and creation arguments, and it seems to send an int when it should send a float way too often: [expr 8 / 20] returns 0!!! See attached patch. Have I lost my mind? Is my machine going crazy? or is expr actually doing what I see here?

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] recursion in Gem - a tutorial

2007-07-23 Thread cyrille henry
hello, i just had a look at your patch. you can remove most [t a a], as every gem primitive output the pointer they reciving. on your 1st patch, you can remove the separator, they are useless. for patch 6 : i usually did not care storing the data on a table, i usually generated them on the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: But to return to the original question, if my 'improvement' of pack destroys the nice symmetry of pack and unpack arguments, this certainly calls the design of unlack into question,

Re: [PD] Expr does not play well with ints?

2007-07-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, B. Bogart wrote: So I've been doing lots of calculations with expr and creation arguments, and it seems to send an int when it should send a float way too often: [expr 8 / 20] returns 0!!! Have I lost my mind? Is my machine going crazy? or is expr actually doing what I see

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] recursion in Gem - a tutorial

2007-07-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Again, I tried to create something similar in Pd, but ran into re-entrancy bugs whenever I tried to use recursion. I do not write externals lightly, but in this case I think it was necessary. If someone knows how to solve this in pure Pd, I'd

Re: [PD] polygon object

2007-07-23 Thread Cypod
I don't have a [polygon] object, is it new or require some special abs? I'm running Han's build of PD 0.39.2-extended-test6 On 7/23/07, Timon Botez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I do mean the [polygon] object in Gem - not curve. Curve appears to be restricted to some 10 points. Ill look into

Re: [PD] getting file info from a directory

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is also [folder_list] in hcs in Pd-extented. .hc On Jul 21, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Andy Farnell wrote: [playlist] is nice if you don't have [shell]. You can filter by extension and seek to iterate through the list. http://ydegoyon.free.fr/software.html On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:33:31

Re: [PD] GEM installation OS 10.3.9 how do I do it?

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Which objects didn't work? AFAIK, things should work on 10.3, but I could be wrong. .hc On Jul 22, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Daniel Zajicek wrote: I have downloaded PD, and have been trying to get GEM to work for most of today. I have downloaded Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc4-macosx104-powerpc.dmg from

Re: [PD] [pd] SIMD

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just checked in the fix to the release branch. .hc On Jul 13, 2007, at 6:49 PM, hard off wrote: this is still a problem in the newest build of pd extended on os X. is there some way i can fix it for myself?

Re: [PD] how to know line~ has finished

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 15, 2007, at 1:24 PM, jasch wrote: excellent, and threshold~ is even in PDa thanks /*j (off to count cycles) Line~ is not the same as line~ that much i figured But you can simulate Line~'s behavior with Pd's basic objects. yeah, maybe it would be worth it to upgrade

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD workshop, Budapest

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This could be a good opportunity to bring some computer music resources. But I'll bet there is something. Maybe you could make Pd big in Romania :D. .hc On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: Too bad, I will be moving to Romania soon, and I could make the trip, but not

Re: [PD] Control X,Y position of main Pd window at startup?

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks for scoping this out. I added this to Pd-extended so that it's easy to change. Ideally this would be a preference, but there needs to be some kind of preference framework to handle things like this. .hc On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Bjoern Hartmann wrote: I'll answer my own

Re: [PD] hidio bug?

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
First off, I must say [hidio] can be quite rough since it's very alpha. But I am glad to have people testing it, with that in mind. But if you are using [hidio] and not [hid], and you are getting rel_x as a message, then that is a bug. rel_x is the old [hid] style messages. [hidio]'s

Re: [PD] mac/intel extended rc4

2007-07-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I cc'ed the list since this is of general interest. Try trashing your pd preferences in ~/Library/Preferences. The file is called org.puredata.pd.plist. Otherwise, post the whole contents of the Pd window to the Pd-list. The PDP error below means that you do know have X11.app

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-23 Thread Patrice Colet
Derek Holzer a écrit : Hi Patrice, Patrice Colet wrote: Derek Holzer a écrit : * [expr 6/f$1] I always do this typo, ;) Sorry, but ? Did I put one too many zeros or something? d. it's not f$1, it's $f1, lol. begin:vcard fn:Patrice Colet n:Colet;Patrice

Re: [PD] Expr does not play well with ints?

2007-07-23 Thread B. Bogart
Mathieu, are you really able to put 8.0 in an expr argument? In my PD (.39 ubuntu package) the 8.0 gets turned into 8 and remains an int. Hmm? B. Bogart Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, B. Bogart wrote: So I've been doing lots of calculations with expr and creation arguments,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-23 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Chris McCormick wrote: On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 01:29:40PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Anyway, seriously, if you wanted [unpost] as an external for Miller's pd, you can't, because Miller rejected the sys_printhook patch in