Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I forget what i2c uses driverwise, but if it is spidev, in pd-l2ork you have disis_spi external that allows for reading data from mcp3008 8-channel ad converter. The external is specifically designed for Raspberry Pi build of pd-l2ork, but I don't see a reason why it could not be compiled for

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Von: Ivica Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu] Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. April 2014 20:38 An: Ingo Cc: Alexandros Drymonitis; pd-list Betreff: Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors? I forget what i2c uses driverwise, but if it is spidev, in pd-l2ork you have disis_spi

Re: [PD] GPIO, mcp3008 and Raspbian

2014-03-24 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Forgot to mention if you use k12 educational module abstractions (you can start k12 mode by adding -k12 startup flag to pd-l2ork in which case your would have UI like this: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pd-l2ork-k12-rpi-003.png), then you can access either gpio or spi

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] Rewriting a unified phasor / metro object for reading tables

2014-03-06 Thread Ivica Bukvic
There is also disis_phasor~ that does exactly what you mentioned (it is available as a separate download as well as part of pd-l2ork). Namely, it has 2 outlets with the right one firing a bang whenever ramp is complete. This, however is only accurate to the nearest vector size (default 64

Re: [PD] Get name of patch from within the patch

2014-03-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
...and [patch_name] external (again pd-l2ork only) that outputs the filepath out of the left outlet and the patch filename out of the right outlet. On Mar 4, 2014 12:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 03/04/2014 03:00 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014, at 02:54 AM,

Re: [PD] Get name of patch from within the patch

2014-03-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Except that in this case patch_name precedes canvasinfo... On Mar 4, 2014 3:01 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 03/04/2014 01:15 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: ...and [patch_name] external (again pd-l2ork only) that outputs the filepath out of the left outlet and the patch filename

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
While it would be incredibly pretentious of me to even think about proposing pd-l2ork as an upstream standard, What I can share instead is that I welcome all submissions and as was the case with patches submitted so far we try to merge them quickly provided there are no major showstoppers. Even if

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
The reason why I believe combining all of these will not be feasible is because in one of my recent conversations with Miller (and Miller please correct me if I somehow misremember here) he expressed his belief any project that exceeds N lines of code which I believe in this case it was something

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 23, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, stuff like that we should be able to solve. I'm not for ditching the Tcl/Tk gui at all. The work you and Ivica have been doing seems to be

[PD] Fwd: libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Not likely. For example, look at the coordinate system for iemgui objects and you will find out that they are offset arbitrarily by a few pixels (in other words, their xy coordinates do not reflect their top left corner but some other arbitrary location). This is particularly apparent when trying

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
as you can at the expense of the compatibility. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Coming back on topic: On Feb 23, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: If I may chime in for a sec (pd-l2ork author here), there is absolutely no interest

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I consider that a sad thing. At least with Pd-extended, it was largely Pd-vanilla + externals. I don't think it needs to be sad. Yes, pd-extended is pd-vanilla + externals + most limitations of the vanilla. How does

Re: [PD] t_scalar member sc_vec

2014-02-21 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Because this way you can reference data points with sc_vec+n as opposed to dealing with single or double linked lists (since sc_vec can be an array). On Feb 21, 2014 7:26 AM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: Hi, Sorry for this question, but why isn't sc_vec a good old pointer ? t_gobj

Re: [PD] increasing zone of inlet / outlet

2014-02-13 Thread Ivica Bukvic
In pd-l2ork nlets are highlighted which makes them grow and as a result you can pinpoint them more easily. In k12 learning mode they are even bigger to help kids select them. HTH On Feb 13, 2014 5:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: You'd have to tweak the stuff in g_text.c and

Re: [PD] Pd on high resolution displays

2014-01-09 Thread Ivica Bukvic
FWIW, recently there has been a fair amount of work in pd-l2ork with the new tkpath backend to allow for this. Currently we are able to scale everything but the text which requires development of a new widget. Once that is done the canvas will be completely scalable independently of font sizes.

Re: [PD] LyonPotpourri 3.0 now available for Pd

2013-12-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
FWIW it will be included in the next pd-l2ork release. On Dec 22, 2013 8:50 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: maybe I asked this before: are there any plans to add this library to pd-extended? João I have just put a new version of LyonPotpourri online over here:

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork on mint olivia need advices

2013-11-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Hi, This may be because Mint and possibly newer Ubuntu distros fragment packages differently than 12.04 I use to develop pd-l2ork. Try installing pd-l2ork using dpkg command provided on the online documentation and if you encounter errors like the ones you listed try: sudo apt-get -f install

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork on mint olivia need advices

2013-11-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
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Re: [PD] pd-l2ork on mint olivia need advices

2013-11-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Ugh, just read the rest of your message. I guess we need to investigate what are the exact package names for Mint and rebuild the package to for Mint format? Can you list what packages are missing and what are the closest package names you have in synaptic? Thanks!

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork on mint olivia need advices

2013-11-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
/_̲_̲̅_─ ̲̲͋_̲̅ _ _̲̅̅̅_̅_̲̲̅ ̲__̲_̲̅_─ ̲̲͋_̲̅ _ _̲̅̅̅_̅_̲̲̅ ̲__̲_̲̅_─ ̲̲͋_̲̅ _ _̲̅̅̅_̅_̲̲̅ ̲__̲_̲̅_─ ̲̲͋_̲̅ _ _̲̅̅̅_̅_̲̲̅ ̲__̲_̲̅_ 2013/11/26 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Ugh, just read the rest of your message. I guess we need to investigate what are the exact package names for Mint and rebuild the package to for Mint format? Can you list what packages are missing

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
...tkpath in pd-l2ork, just like cwiid library is a fork that has more bug fixes and features than any other variant since the core of either packages is not maintained uniformly or at all, so tkpath is very much maintained inside pd-l2ork. There's also on my short-term a todo list to overhaul

Re: [PD] Direct-from-disk audio with position, loop, varispeed

2013-10-09 Thread Ivica Bukvic
To an extent. On Oct 9, 2013 2:33 PM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Oh wow, i didn't know! Is that somewhat compatible to the pd/pd-extended build scripts? thanks, Thomas 2013/10/9 Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Hey, you are right, there should be a packaging, or integration into

Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps

2013-10-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Please pardon my ignorance, but would it be possible to publish an app through XYZ store and in case XYZ store does not have ability to also include source that the project author host such source on its own page and have the link to it embedded inside the app? On Oct 6, 2013 12:09 AM, Rich E

Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20130920 released

2013-09-30 Thread Ivica Bukvic
for that dependency. It's strange. Anyway, I would like to try it, but I have not so much time to spend in installing. Now I'm googling for Albert Graef builts. If I have no luck... maybe I try again some day in the future. Thank you! El 25/09/13 09:06, Ivica Bukvic escribió: Can you check

Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20130920 released

2013-09-25 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Can you check if you have any libstk packages available in the software center? Also make sure that you have universe repertories enabled. Btw what version of Ubuntu are you using? Albert Graef has a launchpad with all these packages built for newer versions of Ubuntu. HTH On Sep 25, 2013 8:01 AM,

Re: [PD] abstraction penalty benchmarks

2013-08-09 Thread Ivica Bukvic
When and if such patch is implemented please do let us know as I would like to implement it in pd-l2ork as well. Best wishes, Ico On Aug 9, 2013 8:03 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Well, if ia user really wants 32K receives of the same name, (s)he can have them - but most people

Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable?

2013-07-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Jul 3, 2013 7:09 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 07/03/2013 04:31 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-03 at 03:56 -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: On Jul 3, 2013 1:38 AM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Die, 2013-07-02 at 19:15 -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote

Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?)

2013-07-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Jul 3, 2013 1:38 AM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Die, 2013-07-02 at 19:15 -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: [symbol\ | [label $1( | [cnv] - (ATTN: Ivica) [hsl] seems to have the bounding box (?) miscalculated in l2ork so it doesn't GOP when it's less than

Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?)

2013-07-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Indeed. Let's hope pd/extended adopt these soon. Best wishes, Ico On Jul 3, 2013 7:31 AM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-03 at 05:53 -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: On 07/03/2013 04:31 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-03 at 03:56 -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote

Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?)

2013-07-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
That is because tk renders them as such. In other words when text is written inside the canvas it is not just the text itself that takes up space but imagine a box around it as if you were to select text that actually within tk returns visible area required by the text itself. Finding out only the

Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?)

2013-07-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Forgot to add, try selecting comment text and you will notice how much more space selected area takes up then the text itself. This is what pd-l2ork takes into account when calculating whether something fits within the gop boundaries or not. HTH On Jul 3, 2013 1:35 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

Re: [PD] l2ork: SSSAD loads but doesn't save presets

2013-07-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Without seeing your patch this conversation is unfortunately entirely pointless. It could be that you're using a third-party external that somehow trips up and crashes when a pest I'd invoked, fails, and outputs bogus data that makes the external crash and that is something that I cannot even

Re: [PD] pd-extended crashes sending data to SSR with tcpclient

2013-07-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
In my experience, this may bog down pd but it should never crash it. If it does, something else is the problem. On Jul 1, 2013 1:24 PM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: It could be that you are overloading Pd with too many messages. If you are wildly moving the slider and

Re: [PD] Get path of patch ?

2013-06-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
FWIW pd-l2ork also has patch_name that provides both the patch path and the patch name. On Jun 26, 2013 7:54 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: the next one who will search the archive might find this first, so let's just write it down again: [ggee/getdir] might be what you need. the

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-24 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Miller, I think I solved the hang part in pd-l2ork implementation that is based on the older model that allows disconnection and reconnection practically under any circumstances. The only downside is if you yank the USB soundcard while jack is running pd waits on jack to report that it lost the

Re: [PD] l2ork externals install

2013-06-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
For the time being build them independently by hand after installing pd-l2ork. Also, if you recommend inclusion of specific libs and/or objects, we can put it on the todo list for vetting to see if they are stable enough to be included as-is and/or purpose a set of fixes before they can be

Re: [PD] l2ork: SSSAD loads but doesn't save presets

2013-06-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Is this in pd-l2ork? Up until recently in L2Ork we relied upon sssad exclusively for our preset needs, so I am fairly sure it works fine over here. I haven't tested it with latest version of pd-l2ork yet, though. That said, if you are using pd-l2ork why not use preset_hub and preset_node instead?

Re: [PD] l2ork externals install

2013-06-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Not sure. Let me investigate. On Jun 23, 2013 3:16 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: For the time being build them independently by hand after installing pd-l2ork. Alrite that will work. BTW, it's so easy

Re: [PD] closed window not destroyed? (in l2ork, possibly in others too)

2013-06-19 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I don't think it is incomplete freeing of patch resources based on what I saw so far. Could it be the watchdog's ping, isn't each of these tied to a specific timestamp? On Jun 19, 2013 3:50 AM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 22:58 +0200, András Murányi wrote: Hi

Re: [PD] ANN: New Pd-L2Ork x86_64 and Raspberry Pi release now available together with comprehensive how-to

2013-06-06 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Jun 6, 2013 7:26 PM, ro...@dds.nl wrote: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu schreef: Looks like you don't have git installed which is unusual, as that is what you need to get the source from git in the first place. Do: sudo apt-get install git Then use git to retrieve latest source (as per

Re: [PD] ANN: New Pd-L2Ork x86_64 and Raspberry Pi release now available together with comprehensive how-to

2013-06-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Yep. The build we provide is currently 64bit only. As soon as I get a chance (or someone else beats me to it ;-) I will also post a 32bit version. HTH On Jun 4, 2013 2:53 PM, ro...@dds.nl wrote: (hello ivica) i tried to install the new version with the burrito installer in Ubuntu 12.04 and

Re: [PD] ANN: New Pd-L2Ork x86_64 and Raspberry Pi release now available together with comprehensive how-to

2013-06-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
-B Go get a lunch/coffee, come back in an hour and install your own brand new pd-l2ork (it will be located two folders up so you will have to type cd ../../ to get there) HTH On Jun 4, 2013 3:08 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Yep. The build we provide is currently 64bit only. As soon as I

Re: [PD] Sensors GPIO Raspberry Pi Pd

2013-06-02 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Joining late to the discussion--is there now a native Pd external that allows direct connection to RPi pins or is there still a need to use middleware to access the data steam? If former, where can one get their hands on the source--I would love to include it in the next pd-l2ork RPi release?

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / best linux for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-30 Thread Ivica Bukvic
FWIW pd-l2ork is currently linux only. On May 30, 2013 5:49 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't need cutting edge software and kernels I just need Pd :-) And maybe some audio software (DAW) running free plugins to interact with the noise coming from Pd.

Re: [PD] first exercise with data structures

2013-05-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On May 27, 2013 6:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [PD] first exercise with data

Re: [PD] troubles killing a pd instance with shell object

2013-04-13 Thread Ivica Bukvic
This is just a wild guess what two things coming to mind based on your description. First, you have to make sure that your shell script ends with exit 0 command. Second, you can always try to simply kill the pd-gui process together with PD. The trick in this case will be finding out the right

Re: [PD] PD patch processing sounds from a bubble-wrapped room

2013-04-13 Thread Ivica Bukvic
FWIW all that you described can be done in one external disis_munger~ provided you don't go over 64 channels of audio output. Latest pd-l2ork will come prepackaged with this and some other flext externals. Best wishes, Ico On Apr 13, 2013 1:02 PM, Maurice Rickard maur...@mauricerickard.com

[PD] Fwd: Re: PD-ext fails to connect to alsa-midi on startup...

2013-04-11 Thread Ivica Bukvic
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Date: Apr 11, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [PD] PD-ext fails to connect to alsa-midi on startup... To: Raphael Raccuia rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com Cc: Not sure If this is the same problem but in pd-l2ork I need to specify

[PD] Running gem in a separate thread

2013-03-21 Thread Ivica Bukvic
IOhannes, How hard would it be to implement gem so that it runs in a separate thread kind of like what PDP library can do with a simple toggle? This would solve problem of having to run two instances of pd just to have xrun free audio. ___

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork feedback

2013-03-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Can you forward patch(es)? Does the abstraction use any non-default gui objects? On Mar 3, 2013 11:34 AM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: [...] Regarding slow redraw, can you try latest version? I fixed one major

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork feedback

2013-03-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
for taking a look! András On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Can you forward patch(es)? Does the abstraction use any non-default gui objects? On Mar 3, 2013 11:34 AM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Ivica Bukvic i

Re: [PD] create/access udp sockets from within pd

2013-03-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
You can also try disis_netsend/receive which is nearly identical to Pd's netsend/receive, except that it provides additional features including UDP broadcast, msg queueing etc., including a different way for dispatching received messages that has (at least on pd-l2ork) solved freezing gui issues.

Re: [PD] bang vs empty list

2013-03-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Yes, but it also prevents profuse errors on the console regarding how select does not understand things which may happen in complex patches under certain circumstances, and which previously were not reported. On Mar 1, 2013 3:29 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original

Re: [PD] bang vs empty list

2013-03-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
To add to this, I cannot think of a scenario where you would want to differentiate between bang versus symbol bang. Please feel free to convince me otherwise. On Mar 1, 2013 7:50 AM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Yes, but it also prevents profuse errors on the console regarding how select

Re: [PD] create/access udp sockets from within pd

2013-03-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Sorry, missed that part. Not via a single object. Yes, when using both send and receive objects. On Mar 1, 2013 8:00 AM, IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 03/01/2013 01:44 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: You can also try disis_netsend/receive which is nearly identical to Pd's netsend/receive

Re: [PD] bang vs empty list

2013-03-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
wrote: From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [PD] bang vs empty list To add to this, I cannot think of a scenario where you would want

Re: [PD] bang vs empty list

2013-03-01 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Mar 1, 2013 12:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [PD] bang vs empty list This makes

Re: [PD] bang vs empty list

2013-02-28 Thread Ivica Bukvic
This is for pd-l2ork, but should be near identical to regular. Pd-l2ork's trigger is also capable of static values like Max's, so this may be the discrepancy in source. On Feb 28, 2013 2:29 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 02/28/2013 19:34, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: How about

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork feedback

2013-02-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
This may be because you didn't hide gop titles, in which case pd-l2ork resizes gop size to match the text width. Regarding slow redraw, can you try latest version? I fixed one major inefficiency. On Feb 26, 2013 6:22 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the reply. The hangup

Re: [PD] l2ork compile problem

2013-02-21 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Just name the root git folder pure-data instead of pd-l2ork. I will need to fix this in the next release. On Feb 21, 2013 2:42 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was trying to compile l2ork on Ubuntu Lucid 64 with ./tar_em_up.sh -e and I got this error (./tar_em_up.sh -F

[PD] Fwd: Re: pdp_artoolkit

2013-02-11 Thread Ivica Bukvic
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Date: Feb 11, 2013 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_artoolkit To: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Cc: Yep. It should be in the next pd-l2ork release. On Feb 11, 2013 1:37 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu

Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-07 Thread Ivica Bukvic
You mean cyclist? BTW what does cyclist do anyhow? On Feb 7, 2013 10:57 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Pd-extended will be removing pdsend, pdreceive, and cyclone from the official distros, so I think you should remove them in your packaging script, then make pd-extended

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-06 Thread Ivica Bukvic
How did you install pd-l2ork? If you tried compiling it yourself and did not have all the development libraries necessary for compiling Gem, then the installer would never build Gem and give you plenty of errors. On the software page I provided a list of Ubuntu packages you would need to compile

[PD] Fwd: Re: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-06 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Forgot to copy the list -- Forwarded message -- From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Date: Feb 6, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ? To: Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr Cc: On Feb 6, 2013 3:07 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: Hi

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
that exactly? 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at pd-extended should use puredata-utils, but it doesn't yet. It will in the next release. Nothing requires puredata-utils, its optional. .hc On 01/22/2013 11:16 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: AFAIK I use pd-l2ork

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Will it install in/usr/local, though, to prevent collision between pd-extended and pd-l2ork? On Feb 5, 2013 3:01 PM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: if you are using arch linux, write to console yaourt -S pd-l2ork it will do all job for you ;) fk.

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can you be more specific? On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: No, it conflics with pd-extended. (just tried). btw it's awesome. Too bad Gem seems to work badly, or is it just me ? Ivica Bukvic wrote

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
than the development version. .hc On 02/05/2013 04:52 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can you be more specific? On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: No, it conflics with pd-extended. (just tried). btw

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
the last release version rather than the development version. .hc On 02/05/2013 04:52 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can you be more specific? On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: No, it conflics with pd

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at pd-extended should use puredata-utils, but it doesn't yet. It will in the next release. Nothing requires puredata-utils, its optional. .hc On 01/22/2013 11:16 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: AFAIK I use pd-l2ork exclusively, not pd. I f you find it anywhere that I'm

Re: [PD] Apply missing

2013-02-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Those are a part of the undo on pd-l2ork, as is changing properties of any other object, such as canvas and array (unlike pd-extended that in many cases fails to even acknowledge that the patch has been altered and needs to be saved, needless to mention add such change to its 1-step undo queue,

Re: [PD] Apply missing

2013-02-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
before. Yes, the undo situation in Pd vanilla/extended is not good. I didn't realize I'd become Microsoft, I thought I was just writing some software for people to freely use ;-) .hc On 02/03/2013 09:58 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote: Those are a part of the undo on pd-l2ork, as is changing

Re: [PD] Apply missing

2013-02-03 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Feb 3, 2013 2:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Apply missing Those are a part

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2013-02-02 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Does this affect you on pd-l2ork as well? On Feb 2, 2013 3:10 AM, Raphael Raccuia rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com wrote: Hi, late for this, but problem persists in 0.43 release. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3602109group_id=55736atid=478070 I confirm it has to do with

Re: [PD] Apply missing

2013-02-02 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Feb 2, 2013 8:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On 02/02/2013 02:06 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; PD list

Re: [PD] How to change the Z-order of gui elements ?

2013-01-30 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Jan 30, 2013 3:25 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-01-29 23:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Select-all, then deselect the canvas, then cut then paste. That's how I do or even better: use undo rather than paste.

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-28 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Great catch, IOhannes! On Jan 28, 2013 4:27 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-01-28 10:17, Fero Kiraly wrote: thats the thing ! I dont have folders with ~ What should I do ? just to be sure: you don't have these

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Compare it to l2ork build script l2ork_addons/tar_em_up.sh. You are missing a number of externals, plus k12. On Jan 27, 2013 4:39 PM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: ivica, thank for applying my patch. now everything works. I am not sure if ot is completed . this is my

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
disis_phasor~.pd_linux disis_wiimote-help.pd disis_wiimote.pd_linux K12 patch_name-help.pd patch_name.pd_linux spectdelay cant build. missing cd ../spectdelay/spectdelay~ ./linux-install.sh 2013/1/27 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Compare it to l2ork build script l2ork_addons/tar_em_up.sh

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
but there is no spectdelay/spectdelay~ folder ??? 2013/1/27 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Are you sure? spectdelay builds here perfectly fine. Did you try/copy l2ork build script? On Jan 27, 2013 5:32 PM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: i added this: disis_netreceive-help.pd

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
/master/l2ork_addons/spectdelay but when downloadig using this commad: git clone git://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd.git i dont have folder spectdelay~.. everything else seems be dowloaded, only this folder is missing... I dont know what is wrong. 2013/1/28 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Is this just on Pd-l2ork or on pd-extended as well? Did you try doing the following: cd externals/gem2pdp aclocal autoconf cd.. make gem2pdp On Jan 26, 2013 12:57 PM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: I cant make it. the same error about gem2pdp... fk.

Re: [PD] pd~ in l2ork

2013-01-25 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Ugh... Let me investigate... On Jan 25, 2013 5:48 AM, Laurent Willkomm willk...@pt.lu wrote: On 01/23/2013 04:15 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: OK, this is now fixed in pd-l2ork git (pd/src/s_main.c is the only file that was changed). Binary builds should be up in the next 24-48 hours. New

Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64

2013-01-25 Thread Ivica Bukvic
. ** ** *From:* Ivica Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu] *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 8:04 AM *To:* Fero Kiraly *Subject:* Re: [PD] Building pd-l2ork on arch linux 64 ** ** Did you try building with l2ork_addons/tar_em_up.sh script? Also what distro are your using? Finally, what happens

Re: [PD] pd~ in l2ork

2013-01-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
OK, new version 20130123 is now up with this issue fixed. Again, thanks for the report! On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: OK, this is now fixed in pd-l2ork git (pd/src/s_main.c is the only file that was changed). Binary builds should be up in the next

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-01-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Because: 1. the two are not binary compatible, so any stray packages may crash one or the other if they are in the shared directory 2. pd-l2ork comes as a monolithic distribution 3. Pd-utils is enough to break the one or the other due to different ways how gui functions between the two. If you

Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-01-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
AFAIK I use pd-l2ork exclusively, not pd. I f you find it anywhere that I'm not using that please let me know so I can fix it. I need to check whether pdsend/receive is indeed identical before making any calls on that matter. Even then if one has to uninstall pd-utils due to conflict with

Re: [PD] the next PdCon in...

2013-01-02 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Ditto On Jan 2, 2013 5:52 PM, Maurice Rickard maur...@mauricerickard.com wrote: The location works great for me. I'd love to attend. Maurice Rickard http://snwv.bandcamp.com/ On Jan 2, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey all, Its time to start

Re: [PD] GUI overload

2012-12-20 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Miller, Pd-l2ork has this fix since your original post on the PD list and I've yet to see any regressions. Many thanks for the suggestion. That said, I've yet to understand the logic behind it ;-). P.S. I also discovered quite a while ago that netreceive had a tendency to freeze GUI permanently,

Re: [PD] GUI overload

2012-12-16 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Without seeing the patch this may be tricky to diagnose. If I had to guess, I would say you are redundantly updating something too quickly. FWIW, in pd-l2ork k12 mode every object is a gop abstraction with many having live gui components. Even with dozens of such abstractions (I've seen as many

Re: [PD] Pd-L2ork Features

2012-12-11 Thread Ivica Bukvic
That is not what the new tidy is designed to do. Like I said, you didn't do the second tidy to space things out... On Dec 11, 2012 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I did Ctrl-A (Select-All) then Edit - Tidy Up. .hc On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:

Re: [PD] Pd-L2ork Features

2012-12-11 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I beg to differ. There are numerous examples where one would select only a few objects and wanted to have them lined up and the regular tidy algorithm was unable to do anything about it. In most cases objects did not move at all with no explanation to the user as to why things didn't work out.

Re: [PD] graph on parent problem?

2012-12-07 Thread Ivica Bukvic
If I understood your problem correctly, this might be because pd redraws array contents very inefficiently, so if you are constantly changing array contents that can prove quite cpu intensive. Similarly, moving such gop patch requires complete redraw of all its contents. Pd-l2ork fixes latter

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-24 Thread Ivica Bukvic
...@gmail.com wrote: HUm... Ok... I will try! But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9? 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try pd-l2ork... On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com wrote: Ops... I did a better test, and doing

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-24 Thread Ivica Bukvic
other bugs are gone, my patches run :D You made my day and now I'm going to learn more about L2ork. Gerhard Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic: With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except for the one caused by jack which in your case should not be a problem unless

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Starting jack after pd is fixed in pd-l2ork. Likewise, hanging after connection with jack is lost is fixed in pd-l2ork. Pd 0.43 also has a regression in its audio stack rewrite where reconnecting to jack fails and outputs a salvo of errors (at least this was the case with the one that ships with

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic
That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try pd-l2ork... On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com wrote: Ops... I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and then I open Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I don't have sound... On messages box I have:

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork 20121115 rc1 now available including deb -- please test and provide feedback

2012-11-19 Thread Ivica Bukvic
More info needed than that. How did you build it? Are you running 32bit system on a 64bit cpu? On Nov 19, 2012 9:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Tried to build the deb package, then running it with gdebi I get: Error: Wrong Architecture on debian wheezy amd_64 -Jonathan

Re: [PD] pd-l2ork 20121112 beta 2 snapshot now available including experimental deb -- please test and provide feedback

2012-11-13 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I did. Although, since posting the announcement I did find out there are some other more recent packages with different names so I have added them to my next version of control package. On Nov 13, 2012 7:51 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 11/13/2012 02:53 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic

Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork 20121019 stable candidate now available

2012-11-10 Thread Ivica Bukvic
and cord tip. On Nov 10, 2012 1:21 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: What does the -u flag do? It's not in the older version I have. -Jonathan From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at; András

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