from:"ydego...@gmail.com"



what ? again?

because i criticize the structure of this fake community?
because i protest against the way decisions are taken?

this is immature?
i will not qualify your comment here,
it's just very low.

and saying 'if you don't like people on this  then subscribe
( i guess it was unsubscribe )' is even dumber,
i don't have to agree with people again to work with pd
and don't need an authorization from you.

sevy

ALAN BROOKER wrote:

Sevy,

How is this a constructive comment? In fact, how is it even 
constructive criticism? Your proof of the saying that goes,
 You can either not say anything and risk people thinking 
your ignorant or you can open your mouth and prove it.


Really I think you need to grow up, I am really surprised at just how 
immature you are. If you don't like the people on the list then subscribe.


Maybe I am wrong however, if you have a grievance then put it forward 
in a sensible way so that things can be worked out?  If there is 
something I can do let me know? I think to have bad feelings with 
anyone on this list is not a good thing.


Hans, I may be able to maintain a some libraries and it is something 
I'm looking into, my programming experience is limited but would like 
to contribute.




On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:58 AM, sevy ydego...@gmail.com 
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


this basically shows you have 3 collaborators
and you call it a 'community'


On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
h...@eds.org mailto:h...@eds.org wrote:


One of the goals for Pd-extended 0.43 is to have all libraries
have a maintainer, so Pd-extended isn't just a collection of
lots of semi-working code.  The end goal is to have a
maintainer for all libraries that are included in Pd-extended.
 Here's the current list based on my knowledge:

http://puredata.info/docs/LibrariesInPdExtended

If you are interested in becoming the maintainer of any of the
libraries that are currently lacking a maintainer, please add
your name next to the library in question.  Once you get the
library up-to-date for Pd-extended, we can move it up to the
maintained section on the top.  Here's a rough sketch of the
process of getting libraries into Pd-extended:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingIntoPdextended

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because i protest against the way decisions are taken?


did you ever see here any decision that was submitted to a vote?
( for example like which libraries should be included in extended ?
or if the chord patches should be orange and with an arrow? )

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note exactly what i'm talking about :

my libraries ( pidip and unauthorized ) cannot be included
because of their license... good, i'm happy of that

now i see in the new list that :

* pdp is not included

some other libraries have never been included like :

* pdvjtools : never included, as people doing pd-extended
don't care about video
( personally i think it's what's pd is best for )

* pdp_opencv, pix_opencv : sometimes we tried to include it
but saw it was impossible for the rules pd-extended
impose to your package ( no autoconf, ... )

so yeh all seems blocked,
for the lack of discussions and agreements,
not coming in any way from me.

saludos,
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ola,
- pdvjtools, pdp_opencv, and pix_opencv all could be added if someone 
does the work. You've made it clear that my contributions there are 
not welcome there, so I stopped trying.


nah nah, you've overwritten all our building system and then asked if it 
was ok...


there's a big difference here


Oftentimes, when a library gets added to Pd-extended, the original 
author stops doing the release work and it falls on me. For example, I 
don't work in video at all, yet I have fixed bugs in pdp, pdp2gem, and 
pidip. Plus I recently worked with Tom Schouten to make a pdp 0.12.6.

yeh that's a scoop, why don't we know?


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Re: [PD] pix_frei0r


you know it works with pdp_frei0r part of pdvjtools

Patrick Pagano wrote:

Is there a possibility of getting the frei0r plugins working in GEM?

http://www.piksel.org/frei0r

It would be nice to have a version of it


- a minimalistic plugin API for video effects

Frei0r is a minimalistic plugin API for video sources and filters. The 
behaviour of the effects can be controlled from the host by simple 
parameters. The intent is to solve the recurring reimplementation or 
adaptation issue of standard effects.


Frei0r is not meant as a generic API for all kinds of video applications.

There is no support for the requirements of special application areas 
like non linear editors, hardware accelerated shader effects, and high 
precision video processing. These advanced issues are not even solved 
satisfactory for non cross application plugin apis and are still an 
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that's really crazy what you did here :

http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/unauthorized

sorry i haven't seen any recent case of exploitation
that reaches that level

respect!

sevy

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you maintain unauthorized ( free version, if free ever meant anything )
and pmpd ?

wow, if that's not using other people's work, i dunno what
fresh hell is this...

very good takeover,
very good semester result,
you can apply for the employee of the month

ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

that's really crazy what you did here :

http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/unauthorized

sorry i haven't seen any recent case of exploitation
that reaches that level

respect!

sevy

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Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-12 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Husk 00 wrote:

You have many tools to don't run into problematic issue during 
workshops. I mean, always you will find an alternative to an object 
that suit your needs on your platform. The solution is not ban 
windows as not ban pidip or unauthorize. Is just talk about 
alternatives and possibilities, telling what you use and what people 
can use. Show (and tell about) the different flowers of our garden


Some of us have restrictions about the use of software. If our 
contract says we have to teach only free software (because the course 
is explicitly about free software, for example), we can't teach pidip 
or unauthorized, because they are not free software.

i never expected you to teach something else than yours.


Look at this - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html


everybody should be 'free' to carry a gun,
someone said

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Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-12 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


patrick wrote:

On 10-12-12 05:45 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
I had two very disappointed workshoppers last week trying to get 
[playlist] for windows. AFAIK it used to work pre-PDx many years ago, 
maybe that was when a windows DLL was still available.


D.


maybe they can use mtl/gBrowser..
under ui in mtl/browser

http://puredata.info/Members/mtl/index_html


this one is actually closer to scrolllist.

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Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


it could not be
all code is heavily unix-bounded

you had good LSD?

sevy

Derek Holzer wrote:
I had two very disappointed workshoppers last week trying to get 
[playlist] for windows. AFAIK it used to work pre-PDx many years ago, 
maybe that was when a windows DLL was still available.


D.

On 12/11/10 9:28 PM, João Pais wrote:

i will check again but the last time i used cooled~ or playlist~ they
did not work cross platform





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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ala,
Then you come and start to offend _people_ (WTF you think calling 
people fascists???),

your message is totally non-sense,
_i_ was called fascist here for not wanting things to work on windows
and not recommending it

so read backwards, and please read before
releasing your [more than classic] bullshit

ciao,
sevy

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Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-10 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Dec 9, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:




--- On Thu, 12/9/10, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:


From: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: 
pd-pidip into Debian

To: Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl
Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 2:29 PM
i just recently had to re-write an
important patch w/o grid and playlist~ because of this
when i was starting out in linux i thought they were these
cool advantages to switching but time and again they became
an issue because i could not run it on windows [if that's
all a student had]
i think Yves' externals are very nice especially Grid,


Grid is available on Windows version of Pd-extended. (At least the
last time I checked, which I believe was with a release candidate of
0.42-5.)


I think all of unauthorized works on Windows now.



haha, of all i read of all my friends here,
this is the most funny ...
this really shows you have no idea of what it is...

anyway, 2 useful things,
instead of the stupid comments i read :

* pidip and unauthorized have been removed from svn
and there's no way you can use or distribute them
if you don't respect their license.

* they are available now from here :
export CSVROOT=:pserver:anonym...@giss.tv:/home/cvs
cvs co pidip
cvs co unauthorized

at the same time i tested all again and fixed a few things...

voila,
sevy

pd : i'm super happy that i don't have to collaborate
with some people here, really, i'll celebrate...

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Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-10 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Bernardo Barros wrote:

2010/12/4 Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca:
   

It's because GPL is for hippies, or something.
 

It's the other way around. BSD is hippier:
Someone in Berkley smoked marijuana and said:
hey man, let's just give it away, who cares what people will do with it,
let them turn this into proprietary or whatever.

I don't get this BSD fondness of the PD people

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you confuse marijuana with LSD if i can intervene,
it was LSD license at that time,
for a joke that makes sense

then you are all buried deeply in the same system
that it's useless to talk, really

ciao,
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Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-05 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

ola,

you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge,
that grants more rights to US citizens than to others.

we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl,
if you know what i mean.

so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge.

ciao,
sevy

pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to
disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source
Definition.

(from
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net?)

# The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license.

(from
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting)

Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶

The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not
limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software.
Though some developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate
use, the following should be kept in mind:

* You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make
recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not
be used to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can
recommend against breaking laws or using the software for military
purposes, or the operaton of nuclear power facilities. No
discrimination against purpose of use.
* You can't restrict who can use your software: business,
military, individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all
use your software alike. No discrimination against people.
* You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries,
but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the
licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by
all applicable laws.

.hc

On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

ola,

pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license
that says :

the code published here can be studied,
modified, used by anyone that
provides all the original credits
and sources in derivative projects.

there are restrictions on its use,
it cannot be used for :

* military amd/or repressive use
* commercial installations and products
* any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism,
homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list)

this is not a standard license.

sevy.

ciao,
sevy

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Undervine, data viz + sonification at SFMOMA

2010-12-02 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ok, it's proved now you're my old nationalist friend

'new world'? with imported old mentality within..

it's just too funny you post this here now..

apart from that,
i don't care of your commercials...

ciao,
sevy

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working again with Bobby Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, I created 
sonification for visualization of data about the global wine industry. 
It opened recently at SFMOMA in San Francisco. You can see a little 
snippet here:


http://at.or.at/hans/undervine/

And here's a chunk from a scene that didn't make the final cut be we 
like anyway:

http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2010/11/21/highlighting-data-with-sound/

Wine is a potent force in contemporary life, perhaps the only 
comestible to produce its own visual culture. How Wine Became Modern, 
the first exhibition of its kind, looks at the world of wine and the 
role that architecture, design, and media have played in its stunning 
transformation over the past three decades. Developed in collaboration 
with the New York architecture studio Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the 
exhibition features historical artifacts, architectural models, 
multimedia installations, newly commissioned artworks, and even a 
smell wall to provide a richly textured experience in the galleries. 
Come discover how important cultural preoccupations of our day, such 
as the meaning of place and authenticity in our increasingly 
global and virtual world, play out at this uniquely fertile 
intersection of nature and culture. At once a nuanced investigation 
and a vivid sensory and aesthetic experience, this exhibition presents 
wine as you've never seen it before.


November 20, 2010 - April 17, 2011
http://www.sfmoma.org/exhibitions/406

http://www.sfmoma.org/press/releases/exhibitions/829


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Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!!

yeh!

sevy

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended based on 
this license.


.hc

On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:18 AM, ydego...@free.fr wrote:


jooo, que espeso ...

i told you 1 times not to package my stuff,
that i'm happy with the packages of goto10...

so [EOC]


ciao,
sevy


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Hey Lluis and Yves,

I see that puredyne has packaged pidip, so it should be pretty easy 
to get it into Debian. The only problem is the license. If it was a 
straight BSD or GPL license, then it would be fine. The problem is 
this line:


NOT FOR MILITARY OR REPRESSIVE USE !!!

That isn't free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

.hc

 



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Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


thank you officer

you'll stay in too,
you made your good job of tracking deviants,
a song for you :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULKw8s061E

ciao,
sevy

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


PDP has a regular GPL license, so its staying in.

.hc

On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Patrick Pagano wrote:


removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea

On 11/23/2010 11:58 AM, John Harrison wrote:

Yves:

It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an 
educator, removal of PiDiP from pd-extended is very unfortunate. I 
hope at some point you reconsider your position.


-John

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM, ydego...@gmail.com 
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com 
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:



good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!!

yeh!

sevy

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended
based on this license.

.hc

On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:18 AM, ydego...@free.fr
mailto:ydego...@free.fr wrote:

jooo, que espeso ...

i told you 1 times not to package my stuff,
that i'm happy with the packages of goto10...

so [EOC]


ciao,
sevy


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Hey Lluis and Yves,

I see that puredyne has packaged pidip, so it should
be pretty easy to get it into Debian. The only
problem is the license. If it was a straight BSD or
GPL license, then it would be fine. The problem is
this line:

NOT FOR MILITARY OR REPRESSIVE USE !!!

That isn't free according to the Debian Free
Software Guidelines.

.hc





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Re: [PD] pdp_opencv with pd-extended 0.42.5

2010-11-11 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,


Olm-e wrote:

thanks but ...
I still can't ping from here artefacte.org (91.121.76.110) where the
.deb are (as said before)

artefacte.org is now back on line...
but the packages there are for pd 0.41-4,
so it's not what you need.

you can try pure:dyne packages instead :
https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid,
these packages are for pd 0.42-1


and still can't build pix_opencv nor
pdp_opencv from source (obviously taken on the hangar wiki ;) ) with
same error :

$ ./configure --with-pd=/home/myname/pd-src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/pd
   


this is wrong!

obviously these are not the pd source, but binaries..

when we say sources, you need a pd/src folder

in svn you'd have to do :

/Software/pd-svn/trunk/externals/pix_opencv# ./configure --with-pd=../../pd


configure: WARNING: unrecognized option :  --with-pd
   

this is just a warning that you can ignore,
if you had the pd sources it would work really

[...]
looking for pd-sources (required) ... pd source tree not found...
install it and use the --with-pd=path  configuration option.
$_

(here pdp_opencv source path is not given but it's the same and it stops
before to check)

thanks for the attention anyway

Ol.
ogeem.be
okno.be

   

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] pdp_opencv with pd-extended 0.42.5

2010-11-11 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

sorry, I am using the source from the tgz, not binaries, and pointing to
/home/myname/pd-src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/pd/src give me the same error...
(I tried different dir, nothing change... )
   

well no, don't put /src and obviously pd-extended
is not packaged like the usual pd,

the real test is :


if test -f $PD_DIR/src/m_pd.h
then
  AC_SUBST(PD_DIR)
  echo ok.
else
  echo pd source tree not found... install it and use the 
--with-pd=path configuration option.

  exit -1
fi

the PD_DIR should be /home/myname/pd-src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/pd,
but in this you don't have src/m_pd.h...

we said sources of pd, not of pd-extended..

ciao,
sevy

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Re: [PD] pix_opencv surf

2010-11-10 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



ola,

yes SURF only works with OpenCV 2.0,
which is availbale right now
only for ubuntu = 10.4
( the packages are called libcv4,
with libcv2 , you really have OpenCV 1.2 )

saludos,
sevy

Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
Hi all, I'm working some time ago to open cv (Hangar), but I can not 
get the darwin pix_opencvsurf object does not come in the installer 
for both linux and mac osx, any ideas?


Best regards

José

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Re: [PD] opencv

2010-10-29 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

the package that is on the official page is for Pd-extended 0.41-4
( as it is written on this page ), this doesn't matter for pdp_opencv,
but it matters for pix_opencv ( it is for gem 0.91 ).

 use pdp_opencv and pdp2gem is you really need gem,
but for analysis you might no need it at all

ciao,
sevy

Philip Cunningham wrote:

I am able to install the package. Whilst pdp_opencv works fine,
pix_opencv doesn't and I get the following error.

/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pix_opencv_athreshold.pd_linux:
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pix_opencv_athreshold.pd_linux: undefined
symbol: _ZNK12GemException6reportEv
  pix_opencv_athreshold
... couldn't create

Hmmm...

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Re: [PD] opencv

2010-10-28 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



there are already some work made with pd_opencv

http://vimeo.com/8195788

i dunno what more explanations you need,
just be curious and inventive

ciao,
sevy

Pagano, Patrick wrote:


So far I have not seen anything besides help patches that explain it’s 
use. Has anyone at all made a working patch, say a laser tracker? 
Anything using pix_ or pdp_ openCV stuff?


*From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On 
Behalf Of *Jose Luis Santorcuato

*Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09 PM
*To:* Claude Heiland-Allen
*Cc:* pd-list@iem.at
*Subject:* Re: [PD] opencv

Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV 
reserch is based in this book...


Best regards

José

2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org 
mailto:claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org


On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote:

Hello list,

I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV
with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the
following site:
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but
having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4.

You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right 
nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid:


https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa 
https://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa



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Re: [PD] change font in pdp_ascii?

2010-10-25 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Ola,

pdp_ascii doesn't use font files,
but character maps, that are basically
bitmasks that can have any shapes
( pacmans, stars, space ships, ... )..

some character maps are available in
the folder charmaps in pidip,
but you can create your own,
one for halloween if you want,
they are only text files,
you can open them with any text editor.

saludos,
sevy

Martin . wrote:

Hello pdpeople,

is there a way to use a different font in pdp_ascii? The helpfile 
tells that it is possible to load a characters map with the same 
format as a file called characters.dat, but google allmighty only 
returns pages about pdp saying the same thing... Does it have anything 
to do with fonts?


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Re: [PD] PS3 eye, Pix_video, low latency

2010-10-14 Thread ydego...@gmail.com





   

Would you recommand a specific analog grabber card that works fine with Mac ?
 

no idea.
i have been using bttv/connexant based grabber cards very successfully
on linux and w32.
   

still DC camera ( like Unibrain camera ) give uncompressed signal,
so they have very low latency...

these cameras are supported generally on Mac OSX
through quicktime ( with pix_video or pdp_ieee1394
that uses quicktime too  ).

on linux, cameras are supported by different APIs
and thus different objects
( pdp_ieee1394, pdp_v4l, pdp_v4l2 or pdp_dc1394 )
depending on your type of cameras

and there is nothing like video for capture
and video for real-time, the driver acts exactly
the same whatever is your purpose..
( how can a driver knows what you want to do of the video hey ? )

ciao,
sevy

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Re: [PD] PS3 eye, Pix_video, low latency

2010-10-14 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Husk 00 wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:30 PM, ydego...@gmail.com 
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com 
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:



still DC camera ( like Unibrain camera ) give uncompressed signal,
so they have very low latency...

these cameras are supported generally on Mac OSX
through quicktime ( with pix_video or pdp_ieee1394
that uses quicktime too  ).

on linux, cameras are supported by different APIs
and thus different objects
( pdp_ieee1394, pdp_v4l, pdp_v4l2 or pdp_dc1394 )
depending on your type of cameras


Hi Yves and list,
I didn't know anything about pdp_dc1394. I'm on ubuntu lucid (10.4) 
and pd-extended 0.42 and the object doesn't exist. Should I compile 
pdp in order to get this object?
When I worked with IIDC camera on linux and pd (a unibrain one) I used 
coriander to get it as a standard v4l device (by using vloopback 
module), and it worked like a charm! But maybe I should try pdp_dc1394 
(if I found it!)

cheers
husk


ola,

yes it's not compiled in pd-extended,
you have to get pidip sources
and install libdc1394-22-dev..
and then compile pidip.

this is something lluis did recently
that was never included in pd-extended..
neither in pure:dyne packages.

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Re: [PD] pix_opencv for Mac OS X

2010-10-09 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,


There is no one saying we have to abandon any of the libraries that 
are included in Pd-extended.


you published a list of abandonned libraries...
I am saying that I cannot keep up with all of the maintenance of all 
of the libraries that I currently maintain in Pd-extended.


that's a different issue, i'm glad you'd rather explain it that way.
I need help with that.  I have taken on many libraries which have no 
other maintainer.  For things like PDP, PiDiP, etc. I hope that people 
who actually use them will maintain them, and I can help where I can.  
I barely do anything with video, so I hardly know how to test PDP, etc.


i know that but pd-extended was supposed to do video too no?


Even better, the people working on pure:dyne packages and people 
working on Pd-extended packages can merge efforts, get them into 
Debian, then there will be no difference between PDP/PiDiP/etc whether 
its included in pure:dyne or Pd-extended on Debian, Ubuntu, etc.  We 
are already well along that road.


i understood there was no real agreement here,
because your packaging rules diverge no?
let's see what pure:dyne people can say about this,

sevy


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Re: [PD] pix_opencv for Mac OS X

2010-10-09 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola again,

anyway people  could be surprised that we speak of Debian packaging
when the original subject of this thread was pd for Mac OSX..

so what will be the future policy of pd-extended
for Mac OSX now?

saludos,
sevy


ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

ola,


There is no one saying we have to abandon any of the libraries that 
are included in Pd-extended.


you published a list of abandonned libraries...
I am saying that I cannot keep up with all of the maintenance of all 
of the libraries that I currently maintain in Pd-extended.


that's a different issue, i'm glad you'd rather explain it that way.
I need help with that.  I have taken on many libraries which have no 
other maintainer.  For things like PDP, PiDiP, etc. I hope that 
people who actually use them will maintain them, and I can help where 
I can.  I barely do anything with video, so I hardly know how to test 
PDP, etc.


i know that but pd-extended was supposed to do video too no?


Even better, the people working on pure:dyne packages and people 
working on Pd-extended packages can merge efforts, get them into 
Debian, then there will be no difference between PDP/PiDiP/etc 
whether its included in pure:dyne or Pd-extended on Debian, Ubuntu, 
etc.  We are already well along that road.


i understood there was no real agreement here,
because your packaging rules diverge no?
let's see what pure:dyne people can say about this,

sevy


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Re: [PD] pix_opencv for Mac OS X

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ola,

this doesn't really answer to the 2 main questions :

* will pure:dyne and pd-extended debian packages
will be compatible ? ( i doubt it ),
if so why make the work twice?

* how will you install pd-extended on Mac OSX ?

i don't get the future of pd-extended,
i'm already lost enough in all pd branches
and yes i think this community diverges.

ciao,
sevy


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


From my point of view, if libraries are going to be bundled with 
Pd-extended, then that library needs to be included in Debian. My 
development effort is to making it easy for people to make, 
distribute, and install their own libraries, so they don't need to be 
included in Pd-extended to be easy to get and use.


The video libraries tend to be the hardest for people to build 
themselves, so it makes sense to have them included in a pre-packaged 
way.  But Matju has done a good job of making Gridflow easy to install 
as a standalone.


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Re: [PD] pix_opencv for Mac OS X

2010-10-07 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

i will from now on encourage people
to use pd packages from pure:dyne,
because they are more complete, tested ..


yeh i forgot to give the right link here :
https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=karmic

( thanks aymeric )
all will be ported to lucid soon,
but karmic packages can be installed on lucid,
says aymeric

i just say i will recommend this from now on,
and not pd-extended ( which will become limited de facto ),
and not desire data ( which is still this vaporware
people keep speaking about )
and not jMax which too slow fro real time...

i don't know why people give their opinion about this decision,
it's like, if i want to dye my hair blue,
do i need your opinion?

ciao,
sevy

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ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:00 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


ola,


You can see which Pd libraries people are working on adding to 
Debian here, they all start with pd-*:

http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged


that's what i mean, i don't see unauthorized, pdp or pidip,
neither in abandonned libs,
neither in 'to be packaged'...

quid?



pd-pdp is in already, right? 

no
if you mess up with :
pd-pddp: a support library for the Pure Data Documentation Project 
http://bugs.debian.org/591732, 61 days in preparation.


i don't see the point,
so i just notice you don't really support external libraries anymore...

well pd-extended will just be pd-reduced ( to the bare minimum ),
do you think i care?
you'd be wrong there,
i like pure hackers that can compile what they need

this sentence was not exactly correct,
i will from now on encourage people
to use pd packages from pure:dyne,
because they are more complete, tested
and i also feel i can report problems to them

and they are even _friendly_ enough
to take care of my problems
( apart that they are friends also )

just point your browser there :
puredyne.org

the grass is greener

saludos,
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Simon Wise wrote:

On 06/10/10 21:07, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:00 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


ola,


You can see which Pd libraries people are working on adding to
Debian here, they all start with pd-*:
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged


that's what i mean, i don't see unauthorized, pdp or pidip,
neither in abandonned libs,
neither in 'to be packaged'...


I think the whole project of getting extended and the packages set up 
and building in Debian is just now getting to the point where lots of 
libraries could be done. Getting the pattern right obviously meant 
starting with a couple first, then adding a batch which were easier to 
do. Now it is possible to use these as templates. Doing it carefully 
in stages seems like a good idea to me, it has taken a couple of 
months to get to this point.



Simon


you're wise, simon

but obviously the intention is to abandon some libraries
( once again and again, unilateral decision
without discussion )

i'm tired of wasting time

ciao,
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ola,

that's exactly the worst possible answer...

do it yourself and the author of pd-extended
will get the credits..

no thank you, pure:dyne seems very honest to me

furthermore i have many other things to do ... so, just not
wasting more time with pd-extended

ciao,
sevy


Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 22:07 +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

   

but obviously the intention is to abandon some libraries
 

That is certainly not true. You're looking from the wrong perspective.
It's not the case that someone decides _not_ to include certain
libraries, it's more that some people are interested in doing the work
to get certain libraries included. In the case of pdp there is not even
a need for that effort, since it is already included, as IOhannes
pointed out. Also here on my ubuntu 10.04 system:

~$ aptitude show pd-pdp
Package: pd-pdp
Version: 1:0.12.5-1ubuntu1

Feel free to become a member of the pkg-multimedia team in order to push
the packages you want into Debian. I don't think that anyone would
object to having also pidip and unauthorized in the repositories.

   

( once again and again, unilateral decision
without discussion )
 

Thanks for starting that discussion now.

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Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 22:07 +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

   

but obviously the intention is to abandon some libraries
 

That is certainly not true. You're looking from the wrong perspective.
It's not the case that someone decides _not_ to include certain
libraries, it's more that some people are interested in doing the work
to get certain libraries included. In the case of pdp there is not even
a need for that effort, since it is already included, as IOhannes
pointed out.
   

this is absolutely wrong, this package is old
and doesn't respect pd-extended rules at all ...


so stop believing superficial information, thank you
( the name pd-pdp doesn't mean nothing at all )


ciao,
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Re: [PD] pix_opencv for Mac OS X

2010-10-05 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:00 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


ola,


You can see which Pd libraries people are working on adding to 
Debian here, they all start with pd-*:

http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged


that's what i mean, i don't see unauthorized, pdp or pidip,
neither in abandonned libs,
neither in 'to be packaged'...

quid?



pd-pdp is in already, right? 

no
if you mess up with :
pd-pddp: a support library for the Pure Data Documentation Project 
http://bugs.debian.org/591732, 61 days in preparation.


i don't see the point,
so i just notice you don't really support external libraries anymore...

well pd-extended will just be pd-reduced ( to the bare minimum ),
do you think i care?
you'd be wrong there,
i like pure hackers that can compile what they need

ciao,
sevy
Someone needs to adopt the others. I'd rather someone else handled 
unauthorized, but I would adopt unauthorized if I can convert it to 
the library template style.


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Re: [PD] problem in compiling puredata_opencv

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ola,

yeh it's quite clear...

the yuv images that comes from your cam
must be converted to rgba with pix_rgba
before being passed to opencv
that only works with rgb and grey internally..

[pix_video]
|
[pix_rgba]
|
[pix_opencv_...]

suerte,
sevy

Adityo Pratomo wrote:

hey everyone,

I was playing with the pix_opencv_hu_compare because I figure that 
it's the best way to track and detect a picture in a card. But then I 
got the error message:


[pix_opencv_threshold]: pix_opencv_threshold : yuv format not supported
error: [pix_opencv_hu_compare] : no method to combine (YUV) and (RGBA)

do you know why is it?

Thanks a lot :)


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Adityo Pratomo quietdi...@gmail.com 
mailto:quietdi...@gmail.com wrote:


ola yves,

ookay, i'll try that, even though i did try to go back to
pd-extended 0.41-4, and yeah your opencv works :) but i'll try
your suggestion anyway :D

Anyway, i Was wondering, what is the best way to implement blob
detection on pd? or if I want to detect and track an edge of an
object from a camera, what is the best way to do it?

Thank you

Regards,

didit


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:23 PM, ydego...@gmail.com
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

ola,

hum, get sure you've got something here:
/Library/Frameworks/OpenCV.framework/Headers/

and that you installed the target pd-extended too in :
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/

it should work then

saludos,
sevy


Adityo Pratomo wrote:

hi there,

i was compiling puredata_opencv this morning for a school
project. however, i got this error while trying to compile it:

configure: error: you need to install opencv library (libcv)

i already followed all the sequence of compiling it. I'm
on a Mac, so I already put the opencv framework on
/Library/Frameworks folder, and I already downloaded the
pd 0.42.5 and Gem 0.92.3, because i'm using the latest
pd-extended.

any suggestion why is this happening? Or should I just use
the previous pd-extended so that I can use the available
packages of puredata_opencv?

Thank you very much for any help :)

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Re: [PD] problem in compiling puredata_opencv

2010-10-04 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

Adityo Pratomo wrote:
okay, good news, everything's work yves. thanks a lot. I'm playing 
with the help file now. anyway, couple questions for 
[pix_opencv_pgh_compare]:


1. why are the images appear at the gemwin is all yellow and black?

there are still some colorspace issues on mac OSX,
actually it's not RGBA, it's GRAB, due to some endianness issues...
mm, we could fix it if we really had any mac OSX but we don't ( lluis 
and me,

lluis's one died and i never had one ).
2. does the images and the video from webcam has the same size 
(320x240 in your help file)
it's not a requisite, the object should be intelligent enough to detect 
any sizes.
3. does the referenced image have to appear in the gemwin? Can it be 
resized to a smaller size? I see that in the video that you give, the 
referenced image appears in a small size in the corner of the screen, 
howdid you do it?

well, analyse the patch it's just with a separator,
a translate -2 or +2 and two rectangles,
if you don't want it, just remove one rectangle
( and all its branch ).



other than those, this object works like a charm. absolutely gorgeous. 
your the master, hands down :)



the real work is in opencv here..
so thanks to them.

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] problem in compiling puredata_opencv

2010-10-03 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

hum, get sure you've got something here:
/Library/Frameworks/OpenCV.framework/Headers/

and that you installed the target pd-extended too in :
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/

it should work then

saludos,
sevy


Adityo Pratomo wrote:

hi there,

i was compiling puredata_opencv this morning for a school project. 
however, i got this error while trying to compile it:


configure: error: you need to install opencv library (libcv)

i already followed all the sequence of compiling it. I'm on a Mac, so 
I already put the opencv framework on /Library/Frameworks folder, and 
I already downloaded the pd 0.42.5 and Gem 0.92.3, because i'm using 
the latest pd-extended.


any suggestion why is this happening? Or should I just use the 
previous pd-extended so that I can use the available packages of 
puredata_opencv?


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] dither8 (tramage)

2010-09-27 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


are you naked-?

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:


  http://gridflow.ca/gallery/dither8.png
  http://gridflow.ca/gallery/dither8b.png

  made with dither.pd (the new version found in GridFlow 9.12)

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Re: [PD] pdp doc directory?

2010-09-26 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

these are some pdp abstractions, pdp and pidip have abstractions
( in pdp they are in /abstractions,
in pidip they are in /patches ),
i don't know ahy they are not installed in pd-extended..

saludos,
sevy

Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
By the way, I just opened a couple of help files from the examples 
directory in pdp and many (though not all) of the pdp_something 
objects or abstractions are missing (they don't create).


for example pdp_conv_sobel_edge, pdp_mothin_phase, pdp_gradient

Are the help patches obsolete, or is there something wrong with my Pd 
Extended installation?


Is pdp itself supposed to work, or is it an old unmantained project 
that is included in pd-extended only for historical reasons?


The home page (http://zwizwa.be/pdp/) doesn't provide any 
documentation, it just suggests to have a look at the pdp subdirectory 
in pd's 'Pure Documentation', which does not exist.


thanks
m.


On 09/26/2010 10:46 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

Hi,

I have Pd Extended 0.42.5 in Ubuntu.

Browsing the help with the help browser (ehm) I've opened a pdp
reference file called reference.txt located in
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual which among other thing says:

Take a look at the patches in the doc/ directory for more info.

Where is that doc/ directory?

I can't find either a doc directory in the pdp directory, nor a pdp
directory inside /usr/lib/pd-extended/doc, neither in manuals/ nor
5.reference/

It also mentions a test/ directory where messy doc  test patches can
be found and I cannot find that either, though I'm less intererested in
it.

thanks
m.



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Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

i did try to install jmax sometimes ago...
but i never used it,
the reason being java is totally unfit
for real-time apps and fast response

have the same problem now with webcamstudio..

but suerte!,
sevy

Maurizio De Cecco wrote:

Hallo,

my name is Maurizio De Cecco, and i am the maintainer and developper 
of the jMax Phoenix project,
a kind of cousin of Puredata. Having release a new beta for jMax (on 
Linux and Mac OS X), and after
discussing with Miller Puckette, i think the members of this list may 
be interested in knowing more

about the project, and may be take a look.

A bit of history: i worked in Ircam in the 90s, where i was lucky 
enough to work with Miller Puckette
on Max/ISPW and following versions; i then worked on jMax, that was 
intended to be a 'next generation'
Max for the Ircam projects; jMax was used in a few large productions; 
i left in 99 for pursing other
interest (Linux Mandrake, at that time :), and forgot for a while 
about jMax.


In the meanwhile, jMax was put under a GPL licence, and after a couple 
of years Ircam stopped its development

(don't ask me why, i wasn't there).

In 2008 i was getting severely bored: server side Java, quality 
indicators and software engineering was my daily bread, and no code to 
write; so, to keep my developer mind healthy, i took up the development

of jMax, starting from the last release i worked on.

Given the fact that jMax slept a few years, it cannot compete with 
puredata in terms of available libraries,

patches, and in general maturity of the solution.

But it have its own peculiarity, a number of different ideas, and 
having a code base but no users (yet, i hope:)
allows some bold design decision to be taken; think of jMax Phoenix as 
a kind of research project in same family where Puredata is.


Describing the differences between jMax and Puredata would be long, 
because it would need to go back
to the original developments; to be very synthetic i would resume in 
the following:


1) Architecture: the jMax user interface run on a different process, 
and it written in Java.


2) APIs are completely different, but see below.

3) The Object Set is reduced to the old ISPW object set; jMax can also 
transparently include LADSPA plugins as objects; finally, i developped 
compatibility layer (to be completed) that allows to recompile simple 
pd objects for jMax, and possibly to load pd abstractions.


4) User Interface: there is a lot of work going on in the UI, that 
allows, between other, the used of a single window IDE style interface.


5) Packaging and configuration: jMax Phoenix support the packaging
of complex libraries and applications in a single file, and even 
automatically grab libraries from the internet.


6) The language: jMax support the use of expressions in object 
definition, like in | int ( 10 + $foo) | so that objects in 
abstractions can be parametrised with respect to the arguments.


7) Hopefully in between 6 month and a year: an optimising dsp compiler
and engine able to run a patch in parallel on multiple core (where 
multiple means around 8).


For anybody more interested, the project site is 
http://www.jmax-phoenix.org/, and the
binaries and sources can be loaded from the project sourceforge site, 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jmax-phoenix/


For your information, i include at the end of the mail the formal 
announce of the 0.6 beta release; it does not mention the Max OS X 
version, that was not ready at the time.


Maurizio

-

After many month of development, we are proud to announce the version 
0.6 beta of jMax Phoenix.


The major highlights for this version are:
- A first version of the puredata source compatibility kit, including 
the build system and a full example of recompiled object library.
- A large set of usability bug fixed; all the bugs preventing a smooth 
work flow have been fixed.
- Error handling improvements: most of the bugs and configuration 
errors now results in error messages, and not unexplained freezes.
- A set of examples and tutorials has been recovered from old ISPW 
archives; they are not updated to include all the major jMax 
functionalities, but it is better than nothing.


Full release notes are available in the release notes section of the 
projet site.


This release has been tested on Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio 10.04, Debian 
5, Fedora 13 and Mandriva Spring 2010; check the installation
instruction on the projet site for specific caveats for Debian and 
Fedora.


The Puredata compatibility sub-project has been *very* time consuming; 
in order to better manage my scarce time resources,
we need some user feedback (and possibly help) to be able to evaluate 
the actual interest of pursuing this development direction.


For more information and download and installation instructions go to
http://www.jmax-phoenix.org/.

For contacting the project team: cont...@jmax-phoenix.org

The jMax Phoenix

Re: [PD] pdp_theonice on ubuntu lucid: Video streaming problem

2010-09-22 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



wth?

the server is working perfectly fine :
http://giss.tv/gstats/genstats.php?x=16y=6

the server is not called source.giss.tv
but giss.tv ...


anyway, it's not a pd problem,
giss has its own support contact ...

ciao,
sevy

Nick Burge wrote:

Hi, many thanks for your reply
Now I cannot connect with the ogg patch either.


thsi is what i get playing back an ogg audio file

oggread~: START
oggcast~: connecting to port 8000
oggcast~: logging in to IceCast2 server...
oggcast~: logged in to http://source.giss.tv:8000/entretenidos.ogg
oggcast~: ogg/vorbis encoder initialised
status: 1
error: oggcast~: could not send ogg header to server (-1)
oggcast~: closing due to error...
oggcast~: connection closed
status: 0

Is it just that the server is sometimes not working?
best regards, Nick.










On 09/22/2010 03:33 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

bis repetita :

nah, it's false problem i think...

giss.tv ( which i admin also ) had some problems today,
try again tomorrow

saludos,
sevy



Nick Burge wrote:
Trying to connect to giss.tv with the pidip patch: giss-pdp-dv.pd I 
get this...


pdp_theonice~ : connection thread -1339835536 launched
pdp_theonice~: connecting to port 8001
pdp_theonice~: logged in to source.giss.tv
pdp_theonice~: connecting child -1339835536 exiting
pdp_theonice~ : initializing encoder...
pdp_theonice~ : encoder initialized.
pdp_theonice~ : writing headers...
pdp_theonice~ : start streaming at 7 frames/second
status: 1
pdp_theonice~ : could not write audio packet (ret=-1).
pdp_theonice~ : shutting down encoder
pdp_theonice~ : could not write audio packet (ret=-1).
pdp_theonice~ : could not write audio packet (ret=-1).
status: 0


The audio patch giss-pdp-ogg.pd works fine, also
I seem to connect OK and have been able to stream video + audio to 
the same server using the application Theorur


be nice to be able to do this from pd though.is there a way to 
change the encoder?


Nick.


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Re: [PD] the Pope likes Pd-extended 0.42.5


João Pais wrote:
what is the name of the video? here in germany it says that this link 
attents against the law

that's the funniest part about it

ahoj!
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Re: [PD] the Pope likes Pd-extended 0.42.5


Lorenzo wrote:

Dominic Pflaum wrote:
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but am I the only person who 
finds a whole load of swastikas kind of offensive?


If I missed a joke it didn't seem that funny anyway.

Agreed over here :/


sorry you don't understand why it has been posted here
( feel i have to explain like very slooowwly ) ::

i read some messages about some people being fanatic about
one system or another, that's why i remind you
that whatever system you're running,
the computer acts as a dictator in your life.

hihi

and those who can't laugh about swastikas have still
a serious problem with history, imho...

ciao,
seyv

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Re: [PD] the Pope likes swatikas (utf-8) in Pd-extended 0.42.5


but using the swatiska ( and the slastika ) precisely when you criticize it
is also forbidden?? that's where the problem stands...
forbidding things just _attract_ people to it...

second, if skinheads offer me some beers, it's ok...
they're all like wasted children you know...

it's not OT, the subject can change to ...
the Pope likes swatikas (utf-8) in Pd-extended 0.42.5

ciao,
sevy

João Pais wrote:
considering the conotations to that symbol in recent history, it's a 
bit naive to say that it's related to budhism etc anymore. at least 
not to anyone who isn't a budhist.


try going to germany and walking around with a t-shirt with that. the 
least that can happen to you is to go to jail. if you go to a 
neighborhood where a group of punks is chilling, you might not make it 
alive. (except in some cities in the east, then they'll offer you beer 
and shave your hair)


I wonder what buddhists and hindus do in Germany.  Its a common 
symbol in Buddhism and Hinduism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika


Banning symbols is a silly thing to do, IMHO.  The swastika was not 
the problem, it was what people did.  Bans just make people believe 
they are doing something useful instead of actually working on the 
problem.


Guess we should switch to pd-ot...

.hc

 



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Re: [PD] pdp_theonice on ubuntu lucid: Video streaming problem


bis repetita :

nah, it's false problem i think...

giss.tv ( which i admin also ) had some problems today,
try again tomorrow

saludos,
sevy



Nick Burge wrote:
Trying to connect to giss.tv with the pidip patch: giss-pdp-dv.pd I 
get this...


pdp_theonice~ : connection thread -1339835536 launched
pdp_theonice~: connecting to port 8001
pdp_theonice~: logged in to source.giss.tv
pdp_theonice~: connecting child -1339835536 exiting
pdp_theonice~ : initializing encoder...
pdp_theonice~ : encoder initialized.
pdp_theonice~ : writing headers...
pdp_theonice~ : start streaming at 7 frames/second
status: 1
pdp_theonice~ : could not write audio packet (ret=-1).
pdp_theonice~ : shutting down encoder
pdp_theonice~ : could not write audio packet (ret=-1).
pdp_theonice~ : could not write audio packet (ret=-1).
status: 0


The audio patch giss-pdp-ogg.pd works fine, also
I seem to connect OK and have been able to stream video + audio to the 
same server using the application Theorur


be nice to be able to do this from pd though.is there a way to 
change the encoder?


Nick.


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Re: [PD] the Pope likes Pd-extended 0.42.5

2010-09-20 Thread ydego...@gmail.com




You're both right: Do the Mussolini was by Cabaret Voltaire, Der
Mussolini by DAF ;)


   


sorry, can't resist to post a link that makes you wonder
if you control your computer
or your computer is controlling you?

fascist computer  ::


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FKfxPXFStE
 
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3FKfxPXFStE%26feature%3Dplayer_embeddedh=e1b88



link gently provided by kareem from http://www.100copies.com

shukran,
sevy

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-20 Thread ydego...@gmail.com




I'd like to know more about how you switch people over in your
workshops.  Do you have them run GNU/linux on a live cd/dvd?  Or
is part of the workshop devoted to installing a free OS on their
laptops?

-Jonathan




   

ola,

of course, we install it on their hard-disk,
and even ( more than all ) explain them how to do it
themselves...

it's now possible to install linux on most hardware ain't it?

( even lluis and me fixed some hardware related problems
during the workshop because some  things were failing,
like the dc cams on linux, thank you lluis,
i fixed some video digitalizers issues too sometimes )

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-18 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


João Pais wrote:
3 full time people, plus the help of online pages in the internet, 
and lots of hours going around forums and chats. and in the end the 
bulb still doesn't work because it can't compile, or one of the 
libraries is too old/too new, or the software is allergic to the 
hardware, or something else that no one can explain.



that's where you miss the most important point,
the goal of linux is to explain how it works or why it doesn't,
it doesn't matter if it doesn't work... ouch, too deep, ok


? it doesn't matter if a program doesn't work? yep, to deep, right. 

exactly, i'm only interested in crashing systems...
but also in learning why it crashes ...
then I have the perfect linux system - just installed ubuntu 10.04 two 
days ago, and at this release the trackpoint in my thinkpad r51 still 
doesn't work out of the box.



use an external mouse,
you'll get less wrist injury

sevy


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!


ola,

And no one can truly deny that many things still work better on Windows (like
video games).
 

this is absolutely a non-argument ( or tautology )
as the programs developped for windows
work better in windows yes... and viruses too...

there is no such thing as 'people born in windows',
they can easily switch and that's what we do in all
of our workshops as we say that the version for windows
is limited and we cannot work with it.

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] Fw: Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!


Ed Kelly wrote:

Shut UP! Everyone.

We all know that a large proportion of the computers in the world run Windows.
   

well, you can bow to your master then,
you don't need the Pope for that...

all free-market people say ideology is dead, i'd better
not notice the similitude

ciao,
sevy

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Re: [PD] Fw: Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!


ola,

This even sound very elitistic, the windows users would just use the great cd
that has been compiled by the real people who know things,
and just keep windows for playing their games
   

what's elististic here, to want people rather to switch to linux?

and when they use windows, don't they use a magic cd
made by people that know things ( and make them pay for it? )

i never and will never get that argument
that encouraging people to use linux is elitistic,
it just doesn't hold.

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] the Pope likes Pd-extended 0.42.5


Ed Kelly wrote:

Evangelise boy, the Pope is in town and I think we've got one-up on the Vatican
(do the Mussolini)

   

it was :'tanzen Mussolini', 'tanzen Adolf Hitler'

ok, i'm older than any on this list except Miller,
sometimes sounds an old 'leave your illusion at the door' one,
i admit

sevy

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!


João Pais wrote:

how many linux users does it take to screw in a light bulb?

3 full time people, plus the help of online pages in the internet, and 
lots of hours going around forums and chats. and in the end the bulb 
still doesn't work because it can't compile, or one of the libraries 
is too old/too new, or the software is allergic to the hardware, or 
something else that no one can explain.



that's where you miss the most important point,
the goal of linux is to explain how it works or why it doesn't,
it doesn't matter if it doesn't work... ouch, too deep, ok

sevy

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

 The Windows package is still the most downloaded.

so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? )
do you expect any of these to be great creators???

we'll see hey

sevy

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


it's just being realistic
how many windows users will really use pd?
or just make a lame download?

Dan Wilcox wrote:

Hoho, throwing down the gauntlet as usual. :D

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com 
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:



ola,

 The Windows package is still the most downloaded.

so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? )
do you expect any of these to be great creators???

we'll see hey

sevy



Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com http://danomatika.com
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Re: [PD] prime numbers

2010-09-11 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010, Kim Cascone wrote:


is there a Pd object for generating prime numbers?
currently I'm:
[1 2 3 5 7 9...97]


1 is not a prime number. (9 is not a prime number either)


whaat? we live under new rules?

i'm astonished one guy speaking can thinks he makes some 'truth'

hey


sevy

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Re: [PD] prime numbers

2010-09-11 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010, Kim Cascone wrote:


is there a Pd object for generating prime numbers?
currently I'm:
[1 2 3 5 7 9...97]


1 is not a prime number. (9 is not a prime number either)


whaat? we live under new rules?

i'm astonished one guy speaking can thinks he makes some 'truth'

hey


sevy

i just read '1 is not a prime number' of course 9 is not,
ut a prime number can only be divided by 1 and itself,
so why 1 can't be?

the correct list is :

1 2 3 5 7 11 ...

we all know that,
so don't need a mailing list teacher


ciao,
sevy

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Re: [PD] live pd patch mixed with Gem or pdp?

2010-08-30 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

pdp_capture was working once with an old version of ImageMagick
but anyway it was too slow,
so now its compilation is made optional,
it is a bit abandonware..

use webcamstudio instead ( http://www.ws4gl.org/ ),
it does the same as gstreamer that Iohannes recommends,
but with an interface...
it will output the screenshots to a vloopback device ..

about the disposition on the screen, no eye deer ..

ahoj!
sevy

John Harrison wrote:
is there a way to do these screenshots such that they don't actually 
show up on a screen visible to the user i.e I don't have to show the 
raw Pd patch to the user, only the mix? This is a 2-headed machine 
(one machine --- I'll use 2 if I absolutely have to) and the plan is 
to show a Gem or pdp window fullscreen on one head and a pdp window 
fullscreen on the other. This leaves me not sure where to put the Pd 
patch for the screenshots.


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:44 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at 
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


On 2010-08-30 17:04, John Harrison wrote:
 I'd like to take a patch from a pd window and mix it live with a
Gem or pdp
 window. pdp_capture would have been the ticket, but I can't get
it to
 compile and looking at the archives of this list, it doesn't
seem like
 others have had luck with it either. Any other ideas for me?


a bit complicated, but you can do that by doing screenshots with
gstreamer, send it to a videoloopback device and read that (with pdp,
Gem, GridFlow or whatelse)

- get v4l2loopback (http://code.google.com/p/v4l2loopback/)
 compile, install, load the module
- get gst-v4l2loopback (http://github.com/umlaeute/gst-v4l2loopback)
 compile (need gst-plugin-base-dev), install

run the gstreamer-pipeline, e.g.
$ gst-launch ximagesrc use-damage=false startx=0 starty=0 endx=640
endy=480 ! queue ! ffmpegcolorspace ! v4l2loopback

access the video using [pix_video], [pdp_v4l2] [#camera] or cat


running here.
this of course only grabs a portion of the screen, rather than a
window
and track that...

fgmadfs
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] multiblob without luminosity

2010-08-28 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


well, errr, there is opencv for pure data ( pdp or gem ) :
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv

but i think it's not linked anywhere, hum, yes,
i love democracy

ciao,
sevy


ronni montoya wrote:

Hello pd list. I would like to know if its possible or if there is a
way to have something like the pix_multiblob object but not based on
luminosity but instead on background substraction.
I been seen that with opencv it is possible to track blobs based on
backgound substraction instead of luminosity. How can i achieve this
in puredata?


thanks in advance


Ronni Montoya Huamani

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[PD] [PD-announce] [31-08 :: 03-09 ] workshop in prague : introduction to real-time media and interactivity with pure-data

2010-08-27 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

ahoj!

next week in prague :

'real-time media processing and interactivity with pure data' :
an introduction workshop to the wonders of
real-time interactivity using
open-source environments like pure-data.

for who ? :

this workshop is aimed at people working
in performance art and interactivity,
no specific computer knowledge is required,
but a real interest in real-time processing
is recommended.
( no cryptic programation skills involved ).

people wanting to make a small prototype
of an interactive project
are the most likely to find some
inspiration in these sessions.

where ? :

theatre alfred ve dvore :
http://www.alfredvedvore.cz/cs/
Františka Křížka 36, praha

map:
http://mapy.cz/#mm=ztt...@sa=s@s...@ssq=franti%c5%a1ka%20k%c5%99%c3%ad%c5%beka%2036%2c%20praha@ss...@ssp=132870144_135806720_12992_136222720@x=133096...@y=136001073@z=16

when ? :

from tuesday 31-08 to friday 03-09,
in the afternoons ( 14:00h to 19:00h )

themes :

* basics of real-time processing in pd ( sound and video )
* computer vision for pd
* basic setups for different contexts : dark room ( theater ),
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modalities :

participants should bring a computer
and video devices ( webcam or cameras ),
if you come with a pc with windows,
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this workshop is part of the invaze festival :
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Re: [PD] pidip

2010-08-26 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



dobry den,

what are u talking about?
which system are you using ?

a/ if you do autoreconf, your aclocal.mp4 will be replaced,
so there's no need as you say to use automake 1.4

b/ there's no reference at all to GTK in configure.ac.
why pidip would use GTK ??

i wonder why you got to that conclusions,
and although there might be some warnings
with .mp4 files,
the compilation works on lucid.


ahoj!
sevy

Willy WOLFF wrote:

I would like to compile pidip
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/pidip/ 



We must use automake 1.4, see in header of aclocal.m4

But when i do autoreconf, i have aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro 
`AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library message.


pidip use gtk 1 exclusively?

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Re: [PD] small patch for [pdp_mix]

2010-08-24 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ahoj,

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


From what I've seen, PDP is kind of abandoned.




frozen is the word, not abandonned...

anyway anybody can commit to it,
we don't need just one maintainer..
if that's important for you,
just commit it..
i have no time now


ciao,
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Re: [PD] openCV face detection performance Was: make me

2010-08-20 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

i dunno, is the source of the sofware coming with your cam available?

second, you don't need to convert to grayscale,
it's already made internally

saludos,
sevy

Max wrote:

While I was checking out a Canon EOS 5D automatic face detection and focus, I 
wondered why this camera can do so effortless and the OpenCV on a Mac 8 core 
machine uses one Processor with 250% for that. When changing to greyscale 
colorspace and reducing the resolution to a quarter of PAL one get under 100% 
but it still still seems like a lot. Any Ideas why that could be?

m.

Am 19.08.2010 um 13:34 schrieb ydego...@gmail.com:

   

ola,
 

basically what is missing from opencv is an 6 DOF Head Tracking.

   

do you have an idea on which algorithm it is based?
i googled a bit but couldn't find
really valuable information on this...

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-19 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

basically what is missing from opencv is an 6 DOF Head Tracking.


do you have an idea on which algorithm it is based?
i googled a bit but couldn't find
really valuable information on this...

saludos,
sevy

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Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-17 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


patrick wrote:
yes, faceapi by seeing machines is closed source (there's a 
non-commercial license with limitations) and guess what yves, only for 
windows :)

g of course, no windows machine here.


basically what is missing from opencv is an 6 DOF Head Tracking.


and the 6 point are : eyes, nose, mouth, ears ?
is it??

something could be done maybe with SURF algorithm.

salaam,
sevy

à+
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Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-17 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:58 +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
   

patrick wrote:
 

yes, faceapi by seeing machines is closed source (there's a
non-commercial license with limitations) and guess what yves, only for
windows :)
   

g of course, no windows machine here.
 

basically what is missing from opencv is an 6 DOF Head Tracking.

   

and the 6 point are : eyes, nose, mouth, ears ?
is it??
 

I guess 6 DOF refers to 6 Degrees of freedom, which means, tracking
both the position (X, Y, Z) and the orientation (pitch, roll, yaw).
   


yes of course...
don't know why i was thinking of points tracking..
it could also be done this way
cos you can calculate vectors from the points

sevy

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[PD] Invasion Prague ! : 20-22 August

2010-08-17 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



http://invaze.tk/


the format of the festival is rather 'free',
so they told me to present our projects,
i might talk of streaming and opencv,,,
or of something totally different,
who knows ?

( maybe of the wonderful vloopback
or my life of dirty hacker
( some fsf people call us like that ) )...

good fun anyway,
sevy


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Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-16 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


patrick wrote:

yes pix_opencv, thx for that by the way!

of course, if you want you can link the video, i can share the patch 
too, but it's really a clone of your example (also the patch have 
network stuff for the voice recognition). it works well for 2d 
positioning, but for 3d i didn't found an open source solution, so i 
am using facetracker - pd - blender: http://www.vimeo.com/563 u



wow!

what do you mean ?
facetracker is a closed source program that gives you
the orientation and movemvyent of the eyes?

what information is lacking from pix_opencv??

saludos,
sevy



if anyone know an open source solution...

also sorry for everyone who likes mel gibson :)

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[PD] Fwd: Re: [piksel] videojack

2010-08-14 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



---BeginMessage---
ola again,

it was so straightforward to do,
reading a little bit the code
of mjpegtools_yuv_to_v4l by Jan Panteltje
that there is now a pdp_vloopback
in PiDiP, meaning that you can input your pd output
to any other program that supports v4l.

the only 'trick' is that the size is not detected automagically,
so your client must have the same size settings
than your pd patch.

you can get it from pd svn
( the only way to get pidip anyway )
it's in trunk/externals/pidip
and will be included in tonight's autobuild

salaam,
sevy

ydego...@free.fr wrote:
 good morning,

 i also don't like applications that takes the focus
 when they start and i totally disaprove
 of desktop notifications
 ( the one that says 'you're one year older'
 specially )...
 i think i will create a group against these two plagues.

 ok. let's be serious, all that vloopback module
 does is a memcpy which on modern computers
 does not jeopardize all the system...
 much less than other kernel modules
 that do much more dangerous stuff..

 and basically it works smooth..

 even though, what if we like system that _can_ crash?

 saludos,
 sevy

 jaromil wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256


 re all,

 vloopback is a kernel-level hack that makes Linux in charge of large
 buffer operations: such an approach doesn't fits at all the
 architecture of the Linux kernel for which CPU intensive operations
 must be done at application level; a violation of this guideline will
 likely jam the kernel scheduler and override its prioritization; since
 vloopback is meant to connect between multiple processes and threads,
 this condition should be avoided.

 if the aim is to trick applications to use another application's
 output, then i'd recommend looking at LD_PRELOAD related tricks.

 ciao

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Re: [PD] Stabel release?

2010-08-01 Thread ydego...@gmail.com



ola,

pidip still has a autoconf system which can tell you what is missing..
unfornately not used with pd-extended, if i understood it right

saludos,
sevy

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Sounds like you are missing a dependency probably a video lib, so pidip didn't 
build.  Check the debian and fedora pages for a listing.  Or scroll up and see 
which header pidip is complaining about.

.Hc

- Original message -
   

Hi,

ok, here is something:

 From svn I downloaded the complete pd-extended sources as described.

After starting the compilation process as described, it fails with the
following lines.

By the way: Would be nice to update the build-instructions (name of
the root dir isnt correct).



install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/hid.pd_linux \   
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid

install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/*.pd
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/examples/*.pd  \   
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples

install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/*.pd_linux
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/abstractions/*.pd
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/objects/*.*
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/reference.txt \   
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual

install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/introduction/*.* \   
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/examples/*.* \   
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples

install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip
install: cannot stat `/tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such file
or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory
`/tmp/pd-extended/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]:
Leaving directory `/tmp/pd-extended/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2


Best regards,
mcc



Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at  [10-07-30 20:04]:
 

Any day now.  I think there are no outstanding problems with the latest
release candidate version, so I just want to wait a bit before making it
the final release.

So please test it and report problems, bugs, etc!  Otherwise it'll be
too late...

.hc

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:37 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
   

Hi,

(warning! I am not a native English speaker! :) )

First of all: This is NO form of critism, urging, hurry-up message or
anything else than a wish for information...

A time ago I saw mail here announcing different release codes of the
upcoming new version of pd-extra.

When I the final release (stable or how it is called) planned?

Thank you very much for your help in advance!
Best regards,
mcc



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Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.0.0 (beta)

2010-07-30 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


you should also announce it's Mac-OSX only

sevy

Jamie Bullock wrote:

Dear Pd list,

I am pleased to announce the first public beta release of Integra Live, a new 
application for the composition and performance of live electronic music. 
Integra Live uses Pure Data as its signal processing engine and provides a new 
user interface written in Adobe Flex.

The software can be downloaded from the project website:

 http://www.integralive.org

The Adobe AIR runtime is required and can be downloaded from:

 http://get.adobe.com/air/

Integra Live aims to provide an intuitive and humane interface to advanced 
signal processing and interaction capabilities. It is currently being developed 
by the research centres of the Integra project, and will be used by Integra 
commissioned composers and performers in a series of concerts across Europe in 
2011.

Please take time to try the software and give us your feedback via the online 
forum:

 http://integralive.uservoice.com

All best wishes!

Jamie

--
Dr. James Bullock
Senior Researcher, Interactive Technology in Music Performance
Software Development Manager, Integra Project
Birmingham Conservatoire
Birmingham City University
UK
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Re: [PD] GridFlow to PDP to GridFlow

2010-07-29 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

i like that, i must say...
that's cool you did it and i take it as good sign

but do you have any news of tom?
well not me

sorry it's my acid humour, you know...

sevy


Mathieu Bouchard wrote:


new work I made tonight :

  http://gridflow.ca/help/%23to_pdp-help.png
  http://gridflow.ca/help/%23from_pdp-help.png

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Re: [PD] problems with pdp_v4l2

2010-07-22 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

your camera have surely more formats than this one,
so see what format are there when
you send an open message to pdp_v4l2

you can then switch formats with [format #number(
and reopen the cam..

all of this is in the help file

ciao,
sevy

xà wrote:

2010/7/22 Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca:
   

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, xà wrote:

 

im playing with pdp_v4l2 opening the webcam via open /dev/video0
-activating the cam's led-,... but doesnt show any output at all (black
screen in the pdp viewport)
pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1431918169
pltfrm  Ubuntu Karmic // Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100108
   

use this shell command :

  perl -e 'print pack i, 1431918169; print \n'
or
  ruby -e 'puts [1431918169].pack i'

and it tells you :

  YVYU
 


Tried Mathieu and is YVYU


   

therefore, pdp_v4l2 is trying to tell you that it doesn't support the YVYU
codec of your camera.
 

the strange point is that also with pdp_v4l doesnt render the cam, and
the same camera with pd extended 0.41 and ubun2.hardy worked fine :S


thanx anyway

salut
x!


   

(well, I hope I didn't make a mistake in those commands)

 

salut
   

bonne journée

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[PD] pix_opencv-0.2-rc6 | pdp_opencv-0.2-rc6

2010-07-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com


ola,

it's not really a big annoucement,
just an update of some code that can only work
with Open CV 2.0...

as only Lucid is shipping Open CV 2.0
( but strangely the packages are called libcv4, libhighgui4 and libcvaux4 ),
this update only makes sense if you use Lucid,
so you can find a .deb package for Lucid only here :
http://artefacte.org/pdpkg/pdopencv/

( it only worlks with a lucid 32 bits and pd 0.41.4,
for other systems you can find the source code
and instructions here :
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv )

i mainly fixes some problems with optical flows objects like these :
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_opencvcache=cachemedia=start:pdp_opencv_of_lk.png
and add the SURF algorithm


shanti,
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Re: [PD] [folder] external?


Kim Cascone wrote:

I'm looking for a way to read the names of files in a folder
as well as filter for types
(I know I can also build the plumbing to pattern match too)

is there a Pd object or abstraction that serves a similar function as 
the [folder] external in Max/MSP?


note: I played around with the [playlist] external which is *very* 
nice but not sure it allows me to filter for file types...?

it does filter on extensions if you edit the properties,
but it has a buguito ::
if you enter extension .pd it will also show you .pd_linux
( it's a simple strstr )..


any/all help is very appreciated :)

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Re: [PD] [folder] external?




the problem is absolutely not that,
this is perfectly correct..

problem is that playlist-help.pd is not included in pd-extended ..

Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

A different issue:

Line 1019 of playlist.c:
class_sethelpsymbol(playlist_class, gensym(playlist.pd));

But the help patch is playlist-help.pd, so pd apologizes:
sorry, couldn't find help patch for playlist.pd

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Re: [PD] [folder] external?


Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Kim Cascone wrote:

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

Perhaps, but you still should have a look at
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
which begs the question: does common and widespread usage of a 
grammatical mistake make it correct given enough time? ;)


Well, I don't consider it to be grammatical, it seems to be a 
vocabulary issue instead, but in any case, it happened very often that 
mistakes become correct given enough time, and in fact, much of 
today's definitions and vocabulary started with things that sounded 
plain wrong and was frowned upon. But to make it correct, you first 
have to kill everybody who considers it wrong ;) or wait till they die 
on their own (the latter of which is what usually happens... but not 
all of the time !)


An example of grammatical mistake is to end a sentence with a 
preposition, but it's sort of a reverse case, because it's a change of 
opinion, not a change of grammar : ending sentences with propositions 
is traditional English, and a myth has been running around to justify 
a covert reform. But when using English, as much as I can be annoyed 
by many things, ending sentences with a preposition is obviously 
something I have never had a problem with.


Par contre, en français, on saurait pas ce que tu parles de.

(This is a common joke about how people often speak French in certain 
areas of Canada...)


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yeh, when you'll stop combing the girafe, as they say in french ...

err, not in canadian french.


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