Re: [PD] Patch acting weird with Pd 0.46.6

2015-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/05/2015 04:24 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: If I have a choice to debug a recursive (control) object chain using my toolkit vs. your toolkit, I'll choose mine. totally. i very much prefer your toolkit as well, as it allows me to blindly answer the question why is my patch

Re: [PD] olimex board

2015-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/04/2015 10:24 PM, katja wrote: There's also a way to build Jessie's Pd on Wheezy, described by IOhannes on pd list. btw, that way also works to build any external that is packaged for Debian (and many are, thanks to hans) fgmadsr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [PD] [sgn~] bug report

2015-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/07/2015 10:14 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: pd-extended already comes with a menu-entry for report a bug that links to that page Yeah, it does, but I've never really used it much so I'm not used to it. Moreover, I have to say I was insecure this was working, really, with all the

Re: [PD] Cycle~ difference with Max5. Was: Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
The offset can be set as argument and it works I can't seem to make it work, how do you do it? can you send me a patch? It seems [cycle~] will only work with tables that are 512 in size. It can be of any size in max now, but the help of Max 7 says: This wavetable may be of any size, *but

Re: [PD] [sgn~] bug report

2015-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/07/2015 09:27 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi, there's a bug in [sgn~] when the block size is equal to 1! I have an attached patch to show this. thanks for the report. Not sure if the list is the best channel to report bugs, I assume there had to be a better channel to report,

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yeah, we have slide~ for logarithmic ramps and rampsmooth~ in max is inteded to be only a linear ramp smoother, so I find it weird that there's this option in the code, I guess it shouldn't be there if the idea is to make them compatible. Anyway, I was trying to make it in a patch and I did it :)

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Jan Baumgart
You can substitute the copysign function with this ugly thing: [expr $f1*if($f2==0, 1, $f2/abs($f2))] cheers, jan On 06/07/2015 10:39 PM, Jan Baumgart wrote: It's spelled copysig in expr. But I couldn't get it to work. copysig in expr only takes one argument, whereas the c math function

Re: [PD] some repo house cleaning

2015-06-07 Thread Martin Peach
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at wrote: Hi list, tldr; Sourceforge has bundled malware with older Windows binaries for Gimp and apparently moved an old Sourceforge repo for nmap to a mirror where the nmap author does not have access.

Re: [PD] Patch acting weird with Pd 0.46.6

2015-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/05/2015 04:24 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: For example, looking at a patch... *2 seconds of eyeballs doing their thing*... oh, there is the fanout. vs... Oh, _everything's_ a trigger. Thinking... *2-2000 seconds of thought*... oh, there is the dogmatic trigger. thanks

Re: [PD] slide~ (msp) in pd

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
no, but it's obviously more inefficient :) it could be simpler if you were to use [change~], that was the tricky part for me 2015-06-07 12:20 GMT-03:00 Peter P. peterpar...@fastmail.com: * Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com [2015-06-06 17:17]: the other day I implemented, just for fun,

Re: [PD] olimex board

2015-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/04/2015 02:57 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: JUst double-checked to be sure and sudo apt-get install pd-iemlib definitely working here. pd-iemlib has only been added in Debian/jessie. btw, pd-iemtab has only been added *now*. fmdsar IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

[PD] Cycle~ difference with Max5. Was: Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-07 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, I checked the cycle~ behaviour against the Max5 doc, and it appears to work as described. Only clicking to view the current buffer contents is not implemented (yet). The offset can be set as argument and it works. The second inlet controls the phase, which amounts to more or less

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I'm assuming this copysign function is like the [sgn~] object in zexy, right? If not, what would it be? cheers 2015-06-07 16:57 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: hi there, I was checking the source of expr (find it attached) and saw this copysign function that I needed for a

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-07 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, another bug, now in [slide~], it needs a ramp up value that is small, so the ramp down works. On the other hand, ramp down value can be zero and ramp up will still work. Check attached file. Fixed this one too. I will try to fix cycle~ too before updating all binary packages.

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Jan Baumgart
It's spelled copysig in expr. But I couldn't get it to work. copysig in expr only takes one argument, whereas the c math function takes two arguments: float copysignf(float x, float y); It returns the absolute value of x with the sign of y. Smells like a bug to me... cheers, Jan On

Re: [PD] haversine formula in Pd

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
some people were saying expr does internal double precision calculation, is it true? i dont think so... 2015-06-07 3:10 GMT-03:00 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net: Le 07/06/2015 04:48, Max a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merci Cyrille, in the formula the

Re: [PD] pow with negative numbers

2015-06-07 Thread Max
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi claude, thank you for the enlightenment. m. On 2015년 06월 07일 09:57, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: On 07/06/15 01:38, Chris McCormick wrote: So the ** operator behaves differently from pow(x, 2). It's more likely that: - x ** 2 means: -

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sam, 2015-06-06 at 12:37 -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote: To save extra discussion energy and *possibly* let the “cat out of the bag” let me say this: just wait a bit, something good is in the works to offer a solution to many of these problems. I'm looking forward! Roman

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On 07/06/15 20:38, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sam, 2015-06-06 at 12:37 -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote: To save extra discussion energy and *possibly* let the “cat out of the bag” let me say this: just wait a bit, something good is in the works to offer a solution to many of these problems. I'm

Re: [PD] some repo house cleaning

2015-06-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On 07/06/15 09:52, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: an alternative plan that'd be great. I think it was Socrates said something about code words: https://github.com/pure-data/deken Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ ___

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-07 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Jan, Thanks for pointing this out. I had seen the logic juggling with RAMPSMOOTH_GEOMETRIC and RAMPSMOOTH_LINEAR, but hadn't came to the conclusion the default behaviour was incorrect. I changed the code for now, but could make the change possible at run-time, as it was intended. But as we

Re: [PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yeah, I can't load these objects for some reason, I wonder why is that, I'm on mac os and extended 42, any idea? I didn't know they were in cyclone... But I remember we discussed about them, not all of them are part of zexy actually. Zexy's only got 3 out of these, whixh are: ~, ~ and ==~ It

[PD] Nettles. Was: cyclone/maxmode functionality usage

2015-06-07 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Alexandre, The nettles are the cyclone bin-ops objects we discussed before: !-, !/, ==~, !=~, ~, =~, ~, =~, !-~, !/~, %~, +=~ They are part of the cyclone library object, which may or may not be part of your distribution. The source code is in externals/miXed/cyclone/shadow/nettles.c, hence

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
one issue that stands out in the case of expr is that its official manual and code distribution is hosted in sharok's website, so I guess he needs to be involved. 2015-06-07 18:40 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Great, I'll try to remember all bugs I found and test the

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I got nothing against the bug tracker, and I'll report it soon, let me just test all the functions carefully. thanks for the info cheers 2015-06-07 19:38 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com: If you don’t want to use the bug tracker, it makes sense to write up a list of expr bugs you’ve

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Great, I'll try to remember all bugs I found and test the object for even more issues that there may be and then report them. But I'd still like to know if anyone can fix this. I'm not sure how the authorship works in this particular example. I know it's an extra feature in vanilla, not

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I can't get imodf($f1) to load into expr either, and it's one of the listed functions in the website, it doesn't seem to be the same problem with copysig. It's on my list to report soon, but if anyone finds a way to load it please let me know. cheers 2015-06-07 19:46 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: such as why would it have to be concentrated in one person”? Because that’s how the existing extended setup was originally built and maintained. Why the build farm is gone and how hard would it be to put it all

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-07 Thread Jan Baumgart
Actually, the linear version is already in cyclone's code. You can choose at compile time by not setting #define RAMPSMOOTH_GEOMETRIC cheers, jan On 06/06/2015 10:26 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I have another bug to report, now in [rampsmooth~]. According to its help file, it should

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
If you don’t want to use the bug tracker, it makes sense to write up a list of expr bugs you’ve found and move the discussion to pd-dev. I think everyone can agree that finding and fixing said bugs is a good thing we would all want to see happen. Nutshell: yes, we can fix it and update it.

Re: [PD] slide~ (msp) in pd

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
well, if you want efficiency, why not just use the [slide~] object for Pd in cyclone? 2015-06-07 13:45 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: no, but it's obviously more inefficient :) it could be simpler if you were to use [change~], that was the tricky part for me 2015-06-07

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com mailto:por...@gmail.com wrote: such as why would it have to be concentrated in one person”? Because that’s how the existing extended setup was originally built and maintained. Why the build farm is gone and how hard

Re: [PD] slide~ (msp) in pd

2015-06-07 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com [2015-06-07 18:36]: well, if you want efficiency, why not just use the [slide~] object for Pd in cyclone? I guess I was just curious. Thank you for your vanilla port of it Alexandre. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Well, I'm worried about the bugs in expr and that they get fixed actually, there are more bugs I found by the way. Now Shahrokh doesn't seem to be working on it and making updates anymore. I remember I complained about something in 2009 to him and it never got fixed. I could list them all as well,

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Jun 7, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com mailto:por...@gmail.com wrote: such as why would it have to be concentrated in one person”? Because that’s how the existing extended setup was

Re: [PD] some repo house cleaning

2015-06-07 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Jonathan, Whoops, looks like more words were needed after all, heh. :) On 07/06/15 23:51, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: I'm using github for the nw.js port atm, too. But I see way less potential for future shenanigans from a non-commercial host with a long track record. I don't

Re: [PD] expr copysign function doesn't seem to work

2015-06-07 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Alexandre, Thanks for your investigations and bug reports - that is important work. On 08/06/15 05:40, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: But I'd still like to know if anyone can fix this. I'm not sure how the authorship works in this particular example. I know it's an extra feature in