[PD] bp coefficient calculation test

2014-07-21 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi there, as I've been saying here, I've been studying about filters and trying to emulate some of the filters as raw filters, or in biquad coefficients. I thought I had nailed [bp~], but now it seems there's some minor discrepancy between the original object and my patch implementation. Check

Re: [PD] bp coefficient calculation test

2014-07-21 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
btw, here's my lop test that works perfectly; cheers 2014-07-21 23:24 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Hi there, as I've been saying here, I've been studying about filters and trying to emulate some of the filters as raw filters, or in biquad coefficients. I thought I

Re: [PD] [bp~] really equal to [vcf~]?

2014-07-24 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
...@ucsd.edu: Yep - vcf~ is essentially a wrapper for cpole~. cheers M On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 02:10:19PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: that's great to know, thanks! Let me just see if I get a bit of the theory. Can I get [vcf~] with just one [cpole~] object and the right coeficients

Re: [PD] [bp~] really equal to [vcf~]?

2014-07-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
it's accurate to say that [biquad~] is a real-valued 2-pole/2-zero filter. but why, if the poles and zeros can have complex values? 2014-07-25 8:18 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 07/24/2014 10:14 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: vcf~ isn't a 2-pole real filter but a 1

Re: [PD] [bp~] really equal to [vcf~]?

2014-07-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
-25 10:49 GMT-03:00 Claude Heiland-Allen cla...@mathr.co.uk: On 25/07/14 14:36, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: it's accurate to say that [biquad~] is a real-valued 2-pole/2-zero filter. but why, if the poles and zeros can have complex values? If the poles (zeros) occur in as a complex

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.46-0test1 released

2014-08-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hi there, I see you updated vcf's help file, cool But when you say, These may be used as bandpass and lowpass filter outputs you mean both outputs, right? Not that the first is a bandpass and the second a lowpass, huh? cheers 2014-08-16 14:04 GMT-03:00 Bektur ph...@yandex.ru: Hello, That’s

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.46-0test1 released

2014-08-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
at least I see that's what [bp~] actually is 2014-08-17 19:28 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: seems like they're actually resonant lowpass filters that can be used as bandpass for high Q values, right? 2014-08-17 18:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com

[PD] max midi in devices

2014-08-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, can we only have 4 multiple midi inputs in od? what is the workaround? thanks ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] max midi in devices

2014-08-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
moreover, aren't there any flags to call for multiple input/output devices automatically? I'm being able to call only one cheers 2014-08-22 14:41 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: hmm, I'm curious about that nicolas - one way or another I think it'd be good to epxand

Re: [PD] max midi in devices

2014-08-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Mac Os 10.9 2014-08-23 2:26 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: What OS are you on? (I just found out there are problems finding MIDI devices by name in linux, FWIW) thanks Miller On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:21:19PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: hey, works, thought I had

Re: [PD] max midi in devices

2014-08-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
...] but I don't have enough MIDI devices to test it out past 4 of them. To get their names run [...]/Pd-0.46-0test3.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -listdev cheers Miller On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 09:46:04AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Mac Os 10.9 2014-08-23 2:26 GMT-03:00

[PD] made it: vcf as cpole and its freq response

2014-08-24 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
it took me a few months to get this working and I've bugged people here onthe list to help me out - it's finally working! I have a patch that generates the coefficients for [cpole~] according to the [vcf~]'s inputs and I was able to draw a freq response according to the cpole's z-transform. it

[PD] [polygate~] equal power function? sin/cos?

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, about [polygate~]. Does anyone know what kind of equalpower function that's being used for the crossfade? is it sine/cossine? thanks ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] [polygate~] equal power function? sin/cos?

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
what about an opposite version of polygate~ that would compare do demux~, is there anything like it in Pd Extended? cheers 2014-09-02 13:58 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Hi, about [polygate~]. Does anyone know what kind of equalpower function that's being used

[PD] Phase Mod x Frequency Mod (solved it)

2014-09-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi there, I was asking for help here some time ago about the equivalence of Phase Modulation (PM) and Frequency Modulation (FM). Anyway, I was able to solve it by just checking stuff around, it's pretty simple, although I don't get why it is the way it is or the math behind it. But it is what it

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended

2014-09-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
as long as we're on the subject, I'm noticing this seems to be the biggest version difference, it's 3 generations behind (0.43 extended vs 0.46 vanilla). My question is, next release would be 0.44 or would you be able to skip right to 0.46? If the idea is to follow the order and go to 0.44 next,

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended

2014-09-20 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
in any way I can. Cheers 2014-09-20 2:08 GMT-03:00 Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com: i get u 2 obi hans kinobis mixed up On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2014-09-16 05:36, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
the previous extended releases. But still, *easy* or not, it involves time. On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: *From: *Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended* *Date: *September 20, 2014 at 5:02:59

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 114, Issue 59

2014-09-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hey Miller, when is that coming to vanilla? :) 2014-09-23 16:05 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: You can have mine... http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/moogfilter.tgz cheers Miller On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:30:21PM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote: Those sound good. Care to share the filter?

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 114, Issue 59

2014-09-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I'd love to find a better way to support building general nonlinear filters using Pd vanilla (one can use fexpr~ but that gets ugly when you're dealing with 4 simultaneous equations :) M On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:29:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hey Miller, when is that coming

Re: [PD] PDCon (was Updated pd-extended)

2014-09-26 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
et al!), it should be alot easier than the previous extended releases. But still, *easy* or not, it involves time. On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: *From: *Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.46-1 released

2014-10-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I compiled it for all the platforms except the 64 bit Mac version - I'll do that tomorrow when I can get to the machine. it's not up there yet, right? 2014-09-24 18:34 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: Hi all - Pd version 0.46-1 is up on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm ir via git

Re: [PD] Porto Alegre?

2014-10-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Maybe Luciano, copied here, knows cheers 2014-10-07 5:54 GMT-03:00 Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com: Is anyone in Porto Alegre, Brazil doing Pd stuff? I have a friend bringing a performance/installation there shortly, using 7 projectors sequenced with puredata, playing on Rasberry Pis. I'm

Re: [PD] understanding [biquad~]

2014-10-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I'm working on a tutorial about all this filter theory in depth right now that makes it accessible to musicians, but in portuguese only. but long story short, if you have no idea, maybe you shouldn't bother with it :) what you should know is that you can have lots of filter types with a biquad

Re: [PD] understanding [biquad~]

2014-10-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a tutorial about all this filter theory in depth right now that makes it accessible to musicians, but in portuguese only. but long story short, if you have no idea, maybe you shouldn't bother with it :) what you should know is that you can

Re: [PD] understanding [biquad~]

2014-10-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
another biquad example from my new tutorial examples in portuguese cheers 2014-10-17 20:10 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: thanks, more of it coming up soon ;) I have the whole thing in portuguese at http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials check: - Material Didático

[PD] klank in pd?

2014-11-11 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, in SC there's such a thing called Klank, do you know it? wonder if there's such a thing in Pd as well, or how to do it. cheers ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Cyclone suite initiative

2014-12-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
cartopol~ and poltocar~ are also buggy I pointed it out once, but only cartopol~ was corrected and it made it worse. check atatchment. do you have this covered? cheers 2014-12-08 14:30 GMT-02:00 Fred Jan Kraan fjkr...@xs4all.nl: Hi Alexandre, Thanks for the report. Next to working on the

Re: [PD] Cyclone suite initiative

2014-12-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
new object to clone, based on comb~ cheers 2014-12-08 20:37 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: cartopol~ and poltocar~ are also buggy I pointed it out once, but only cartopol~ was corrected and it made it worse. check atatchment. do you have this covered? cheers 2014-12

[PD] iCube for Pd v1.0.

2014-12-11 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
-- Forwarded message -- From: I-CubeX News n...@icubex.com Date: 2014-12-11 22:30 GMT-02:00 Subject: Externals To: por...@gmail.com If parts of the message are not displayed, see it here http://infusionsystems.com/lists/lt.php?id=LhgFAwJJCwEdBAEE. Hi Alexandre, We're pleased

[PD] [PD-announce] iCube for Pd v1.0.

2014-12-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
http://icubex.com/promo/news.141210.html?utm_source=emailcampaign24utm_medium=phpListutm_content=HTMLemailutm_campaign=Externals ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

Re: [PD] Cyclone help patches issue list

2014-12-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
on cartopol~ / poltocar~. Cheers Greetings, Fred Jan -- Forwarded message -- From: *Alexandre Torres Porres* por...@gmail.com mailto: por...@gmail.com Date: 2014-12-08 20:37 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone suite initiative To: Fred Jan Kraan fjkr...@xs4all.nl

Re: [PD] [env~] issues

2014-12-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
About 1) [env~]'s help file says it's 1024 default though, maybe it changed and miller forgot to update C07's example 2014-12-13 20:14 GMT-02:00 Raphaël Ilias phae.il...@gmail.com: Hi dear pd freaks, I'm currently using [env~] for measurement purpose (room's sound monitoring and soundfiles

Re: [PD] Cyclone help patches issue list

2014-12-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
-- Forwarded message -- From: *Alexandre Torres Porres* por...@gmail.com mailto: por...@gmail.com mailto:por...@gmail.com mailto:por...@gmail.com Date: 2014-12-08 20:37 GMT-02:00 Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone suite initiative To: Fred Jan

[PD] butterworth/chebyshev/etc in biquad?

2014-12-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hello there. I've been studying filters and I was hoping someone could help me figure out some details about the filter objects in Pd. I'm mostly concerned about the filter types such as butterworth, chebyshev, bessel and eliptic. For instance, in [biquad~], can you get all of these 4 types of

Re: [PD] allpass~ Max5 doc

2014-12-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
seems like a mistake I don't have Max 5, but in Max 6 it's pretty clear it's only 3, and in cyclone, for what I see, i'ts also only 3, right? I've seen some typos and misleading things in Max's documentation before, it can happen. cheers 2014-12-15 18:26 GMT-02:00 Fred Jan Kraan

Re: [PD] butterworth/chebyshev/etc in biquad?

2014-12-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
and cascade it a few times to achieve higher order filters, but that's not the way it is. thanks 2014-12-15 15:00 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: I'm not sure how much difference it makes for low-order filters (biquad has 2 poles and 2 zeros). The differences really matter

Re: [PD] [env~] issues

2014-12-16 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
seems similar to the one used to make delay line shorter than one block. and how is that trick? :) 2014-12-16 11:41 GMT-02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 12/15/2014 11:53 PM, Raphaël Ilias wrote: Ok, I get the trick, it seems similar to the one used to make delay line

[PD] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hello, I'm opening a new thread about the new direction of discussion with a proper subject title. Perhaps this will call the attention of other readers. I particularly think this is of major interest to everyone. We're discussing new ways of using the libraries in Pd Extended into Pd Vanilla,

Re: [PD] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hello, I don't know if Hans is replaceable and I didn't mean to start a thread about replacing him or even point to a new extendeddistro. I just wanted to highlight what miller mentioned about people considering working on a repository of external objects compatible to vanilla, and how all

Re: [PD] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
be interested in contributing my own externals. best, Jaime On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I don't know if Hans is replaceable and I didn't mean to start a thread about replacing him or even point to a new extendeddistro. I just

[PD] what's the flatspace deal?

2014-12-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
howdy, some libraries have a flatspace designation for some objects, like zexy flatspace, cyclone flatspace, iemlib flatspace... I don't really get it. What's the deal with it? thanks ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Well, for starters, there could just be a repository with externals and libraries :) I'm willing to help somehow. I'm not a programmer only, but I can help organising it and stuff. Testing libraries, listing it, etc. Cheers 2014-12-18 17:34 GMT-02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-19 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
! :) Cheers Alessio On 18/12/2014 20:50, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Well, for starters, there could just be a repository with externals and libraries :) I'm willing to help somehow. I'm not a programmer only, but I can help organising it and stuff. Testing libraries, listing it, etc

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-20 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
a clean and consistent environment for new users which may also mean that some of us weathered PD users may have to adapt our old patches because certain objects may not be available anymore. Best, Ico On Dec 19, 2014 1:49 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Alessio

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches issue list)

2014-12-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Well, funny this was mentioned here, cause I was actually thinking about creating a library of abstractions myself. I've been working on an extensive computer music tutorial with Pd over the years now (in portuguese though, with over 220 patches now), and I usually present a vanilla alternative

[PD] moog

2014-12-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hi, do you know if the moog object comes from this paper? http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/p/pod/dod-idx/preserving-the-structure-of-the-moog-vcf-in-the-digital.pdf?c=icmc;idno=bbp2372.2007.062 ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] moog

2014-12-31 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
there ever implemented Runge-Kutta with [expr~]? It might also be that Pd's data structures are an appropriate choice for such a project? Either way, it would be super cool to have this as a Pd abstraction rather than an extern. -David On 12/31/2014 10:05 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi

Re: [PD] First preview for cyclone 0.57

2015-01-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
good job, for some signal representation, like with triangle~, seems better to me if the plot is polygon and not as points merry'15 2015-01-01 17:37 GMT-02:00 Fred Jan Kraan fjkr...@xs4all.nl: Hi everyone, To make a good start for this year, I managed to compile the updated cyclone library

[PD] [canvasposition]

2015-02-03 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hello, downloaded xth's sense and it requires extended 0.42-5 and above, it complains about not creating the [canvasposition] object and I can't find it indeed. Funny is tha I can actually find it in the source code version of extended 0.42-5, in iem guts - which is weird, cause then it should

Re: [PD] [canvasposition]

2015-02-03 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
forget about it, I probably have the source from 0.43, already talked to marco about this. cheers 2015-02-03 13:47 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: hello, downloaded xth's sense and it requires extended 0.42-5 and above, it complains about not creating the [canvasposition

Re: [PD] I2S audio possibilities

2015-02-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
since udoo vs pi is under discussion, how about this other guy here? http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php seems it's more powerful than the pi and for the same price. cheers 2015-02-05 10:58 GMT-02:00 Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com: Don’t forget the Udoo actually has a

Re: [PD] Miller's Moogfilter

2015-01-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
, 2015 at 11:50:01PM -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Miller Puckette msp at ucsd.edu http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list wrote: * You can have mine... http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/moogfilter.tgz http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/moogfilter.tgz ** cheers

Re: [PD] Where is [paf~]?

2015-01-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
whether it's a good idea, since it's so easy to make the paf~ out of simpler Pd objects. The only gain to having a paf~ object is that it runs faster - I'm not sure that justifies the maintenance. cheers Miller On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 03:48:29PM -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi, F13

Re: [PD] Miller's Moogfilter

2015-01-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
awesome, I heard something about [expr] having license issues with libpd, and I can't live without it, some functionalities are only in it as well (like the tanh function). So maybe now I guess I can think of making some mobile patches ;) Does this bob~ work for you anyway Dan? I tried working on

Re: [PD] moog

2015-01-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hm, there's also a [resofilt~] object in extended that implements moog filtering ;) 2015-01-14 1:44 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: well, maybe I got excited too soon, not much else shows up in the paper that can be related to the moog code... Well, I tried making a first

Re: [PD] meaning of delay(msec) and use callbacks in audio settings

2015-02-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
down to 4/10ms? Unfortunately those are two very different things. -Jonathan On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:11 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen really good setups get down to below 10ms (as low as 4) what kind of setup? :) it'd be cool if we

Re: [PD] meaning of delay(msec) and use callbacks in audio settings

2015-02-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I've seen really good setups get down to below 10ms (as low as 4) what kind of setup? :) it'd be cool if we described some rigs here cheers 2015-02-18 0:26 GMT-02:00 David Medine dmed...@ucsd.edu: Basically these things have to do with performance. 'Use callbacks' has to do with how Pd

Re: [PD] more about float limitation (was: weird float/add limitation)

2015-01-29 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
6 significant digits also allow a number like 0.000123456 2015-01-29 14:17 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Well, thanks everyone. And now for some related issues. Pd can only represent up to 6 significant digits, so they say. For example, in a message, you can have

Re: [PD] bugs with [hip~] and [bp~]

2015-01-30 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
and here's hip with raw filters 2015-01-30 20:09 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: that seems quite nicer than [hip~], cool. I rewrote it to make it more concise with expr. cheers 2015-01-30 19:29 GMT-02:00 katja katjavet...@gmail.com: Attached patch illustrates how

Re: [PD] bugs with [hip~] and [bp~]

2015-01-30 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
guess. Katja On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: This message of mine was intended to be a bug report I see, but my point is that it's not much of a bug, so if you want to see how these filters work more deeply, you may check my stuff

Re: [PD] more about float limitation (was: weird float/add limitation)

2015-01-30 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
...@gmail.com: Here's a patch using pdlua that shows the value of pi in various ways. I get 48 decimal places in a symbol. Martin On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: more that 7 digit but less than 8 digits ... so, 4/3 =! 1.3 but 4/3

Re: [PD] more about float limitation (was: weird float/add limitation)

2015-02-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: So, cant we raise the bit resolution of pd to more than what's there? how? Martin, about the pi in lua, i never got to see it, but supercollider prints the value of pi as 3.1415926535898 so thats more than 24 bit

Re: [PD] more about float limitation

2015-02-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
in a 64 bit OS, right? 2015-02-01 14:52 GMT-02:00 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net: Le 01/02/2015 17:42, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : Yeah, SC is double float, but they seem to round it up for some reason, maybe the same reason as Pd. But SC uses single float for signal processing, so

Re: [PD] more about float limitation

2015-02-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 02/01/2015 06:05 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Seems Pd runs faster if compiled to 64 bits in a 64 bit OS than if it were compiled as 32, which does makes sense. That's all? *no : pd compiled for 64 bit system will not run on 32 bit sytem

Re: [PD] weird float/add limitation

2015-01-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
it's a limitation of 32 bit float I thought so, but same happens when I use the new Pd Vanilla 64 bits... what now? :) 2015-01-28 14:41 GMT-02:00 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net: Le 28/01/2015 17:20, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : howdy, check the attached patch. 1e+06 + 1

[PD] bandpass or resonant?

2015-01-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, are bandpass and resonant filters the same? Or is there a difference between calling one a resonant and not a bandpass? thanks ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] moog

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Seems mostly to be definitely it! Yeah, thanks! Mostly coz the paper mentions zeros at 0.3 - and you can easily see that in the code ;) this seems to be getting less mysterious to implement, weee 2015-01-13 23:52 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: This is probably the source

Re: [PD] moog

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
/weird again. Though it seems is just some 4th order filter, nothing too crazy. cheers 2015-01-14 0:21 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Seems mostly to be definitely it! Yeah, thanks! Mostly coz the paper mentions zeros at 0.3 - and you can easily see that in the code

[PD] Miller's Moogfilter

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Miller Puckette msp at ucsd.edu http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list wrote: * You can have mine... http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/moogfilter.tgz http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/moogfilter.tgz ** cheers ** Miller* Hmm, It ain't still there :P anyone has it? Billy?

Re: [PD] moog

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
at 8:37 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, so David, kinda getting back from my break, thought I'd have anohter look at this... Seems the extended object is related to the 2004 Huovalainen paper, but I've failed to fully understand the code of moog.c and really match

Re: [PD] moog

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Howdy, so David, kinda getting back from my break, thought I'd have anohter look at this... Seems the extended object is related to the 2004 Huovalainen paper, but I've failed to fully understand the code of moog.c and really match them. Anyone knows about Gunter's wherabouts these days? He

Re: [PD] bandpass or resonant?

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
and noticed that the resonance control is nothing more than feeding some fraction of the output back to the input. With more feedback oscillation occurs at the cutoff frequency for any type of filter, highpass, bandpass or lowpass. Martin On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres

Re: [PD] bandpass or resonant?

2015-01-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
of implementation. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pending to say that there is no real distinction between Resonant filter and a resonator, and a bandpass can be implicitly thought of as a resonator. Here's what I also found in Julius' website

Re: [PD] So [bang~] can't bang in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

2015-03-17 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
to here? On Saturday, March 14, 2015 11:55 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: moreover, [snapshot~] will also print 64 equal values of the last value in a 64 block even if the patch is running at a block size of 1, being this kind of behaviour my biggest surprise that i

[PD] object to find closest value in an array

2015-03-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I'm wondering if there's an object that can find in an array which is the closest value in the array ro an input value. Say I have an array/list of *1.1* , *2.2* , *3.3*, then I give as the input the number 3 and the object outputs *3.3* I've done this as a patch already, but I wonder if theres

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-03-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2009-03/013146.html Fred Jan On 2015-03-05 06:18 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi, I have a question about upper case letters in the begining of some objects like [Uzi] and [Scope~] in cyclone. Why is that? In Pd it does make a difference by the way

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-03-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
08:46 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hey, yeah, didn't think of adding aliases , that solves the issue and maintains backwards compatibility with old patches. I hope it gets done. cheers 2015-03-05 15:38 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan fjkr...@xs4all.nl mailto:fjkr...@xs4all.nl

[PD] uzi redundancy and how to load kalashnikov as uzi

2015-03-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi there, there seems to be some redundancies regarding the uzi object. I'm in Pd-Extended 0.42-5, not sure how this is now at 0.43. There's the cyclone one, but there is also a [kalashnikov] object (from ext13) which I like cause it's a bit more convenient to sweep arrays (cause the numbered

Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: How to nuke it and make it as if Pd (vanilla or extended) had never ever existed and the system never saw it before? I had ways to do this before, but things seemed to have changed cheers

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-03-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
.html * Nice, I followed the thread and agree with hans, it makes sense that it loads that way, but I do add my point where it's a bit of a hassle to remember which objects have uppercase or not. cheers 2015-03-05 18:20 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Does it mean we're

Re: [PD] resonators~

2015-03-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
cheers 2015-03-07 17:19 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: Didn't check this object closely, but it seems it's like the Klank object in SC. Perhaps by similiar you'd mean some sort of bank of resonators. If so, I've already searched and asked and didn't find any. Not that it'd

Re: [PD] uzi redundancy and how to load kalashnikov as uzi

2015-03-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi there, there seems to be some redundancies regarding the uzi object. I'm in Pd-Extended 0.42-5, not sure how this is now at 0.43. There's the cyclone one, but there is also a [kalashnikov] object (from ext13) which I like cause it's a bit more convenient

Re: [PD] uzi redundancy and how to load kalashnikov as uzi

2015-03-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
oh i see that the discussion is currently going on (i was under the impression that you *were* discussing it a while ago). Yeah, and, as it turns out, from that discussion, I learned that is that last version of Extended actually loads cyclone Uzi when you type uzi. So we do have in fact 3

Re: [PD] uzi redundancy and how to load kalashnikov as uzi

2015-03-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
as if it is for the best. but then, it'd be good to see some real talk about the future of extended, or how to make it easier to add libraries from extended into vanilla before sharing opinions. cheers 2015-03-08 17:50 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 03/07/2015 11:27 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres

Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 03/08/2015 07:32 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: things. I believe that didn't happen for 0.42, but now that I'm back to 42 it's complaining it cant find these libraries anymore. I thought that nuking everything and fresh re-installing 42 would make this error go

Re: [PD] uzi redundancy and how to load kalashnikov as uzi

2015-03-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I remember when Castonguay came here in 2008, and in the occasion there were 4 or 5 Alexandres in the same room - it was kinda confusing :O 2015-03-09 2:40 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: *there is no harm in having uzi and uzi and uzi, as long as it isclear which one

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
:51 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: About the control rate paradigm in Pd, I have to admit that when I asked about it I was thinking about it in relation to what that means in supercollider and Csound, but I also always considered that Pd doesn't really have that kind

Re: [PD] So [bang~] can't bang in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

2015-03-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
attached patch 2015-03-14 2:02 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: I was trying to get a bang at every sample and found out that the minimum time bang~ works is at the 64 blocksize, check attached patch. Anyway, no question, just saying... but yeah, I don't see why it has

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2015-03-12 19:36 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: since it was mentioned here, what's the behaviour and deal with [vnsapshot~]? Cause there's no help file for ir yet. Made a few tests and saw how snapshot~ only outputs the last saple from an audio block, and also how

Re: [PD] So [bang~] can't bang in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

2015-03-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
there must be other examples... like from control objects, seems the bang GUI will also only fire at 64 block periods. sorry if I annoy, but I find it all curious and interesting 2015-03-14 3:36 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: It seems there are other objects that somehow

Re: [PD] So [bang~] can't bang in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

2015-03-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: attached patch 2015-03-14 2:02 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: I was trying to get a bang at every sample and found out that the minimum time bang~ works is at the 64 blocksize, check attached patch. Anyway

Re: [PD] So [bang~] can't bang in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

2015-03-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
me wonder about similar/parallel behaviours from other objects, which I also found to exist. cheers 2015-03-14 6:18 GMT-03:00 Peter P. peterpar...@fastmail.com: * Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com [2015-03-14 06:02]: I was trying to get a bang at every sample and found out

Re: [PD] So [bang~] can't bang in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

2015-03-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
you won't be able to use objects like [adc~]/[dac~] if you have a block size different than 64 2015-03-14 12:09 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: *I have not tested this, but let me ask if you did already try putting a**bang~ in a subpatch which itself is reblocked

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-13 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
with a casual glance. However, it looks to be dependent on the sample rate you choose, as the lowest common multiple of the common sample rates is used to calculate the granularity of the time units themselves. -Jonathan On Thursday, March 12, 2015 7:24 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
cause that's a lot more than an audio rate at 44.1khz :) 1.4013e-45 is smaller than 0.0226757 I meant to say a lot SMALLER :) my bad 2015-03-12 12:04 GMT-03:00 Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
at 05:04:17PM +0200, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: ok, so the metro at 1ms is because I'm using extended. as for the minimum time pd can process and send data, what's the final word

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
in the patch. just wanted to have a way to close the message stream, but you can forget about it cheers 2015-03-12 14:14 GMT-03:00 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net: Le 12/03/2015 18:04, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : /i don't understand your patch. using [timer], a delay 0 will give a 0 delay

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
(Miller's is the first in the series): http://repmus.ircam.fr/mutant/rtmseminars -David On 3/12/2015 10:25 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: timer and realtime compute 2 different things (logical time and real time). i dont know what your want. I know they are different, and I don't

Re: [PD] maximum control rate in Pd

2015-03-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
since it was mentioned here, what's the behaviour and deal with [vnsapshot~]? Cause there's no help file for ir yet. thanks 2015-03-12 19:14 GMT-03:00 Charles Z Henry czhe...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:01 PM, David Medine dmed...@ucsd.edu wrote: @Charles: None of those five

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