Re: [PD] nqpoly~ and dynamic object generation, loadbang issue?

2017-04-22 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/22/2017 02:56 PM, Samuel Burt wrote: > IOhZ, > > Thanks for clearing up the naming. Can I fix it on the wiki or would I need > to re-upload. re-uploading is certainly the simplest. > > I looked everywhere but couldn't find a version number on the iem site > where I downloaded the

Re: [PD] best licence for pd-patches?

2017-04-21 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/21/2017 10:20 AM, martin brinkmann wrote: > -not lock anyone (especially myself ;)) out from using > my patches in a commercial and closed 'environment' (like > a game on steam or an android/ios-app) > [...] > gpl? would be great not to have to think about when including other work >

Re: [PD] nqpoly~ and dynamic object generation, loadbang issue?

2017-04-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-04-19 19:32, Christof Ressi wrote: > actually I never used the deken tool because I couldn't get it to work on my > Laptop. I always uploaded directly to puredata.info. > while this is certainly a doable workaround, it would also be nice if you could file bugreports (with errors and

Re: [PD] nqpoly~ and dynamic object generation, loadbang issue?

2017-04-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-04-19 21:40, Samuel Burt wrote: > I did it! > > I ended up running the command: > > deken upload -v 0-20170419 --no-source-error > iemguts-v0-20170419-\(Darwin-i386-32\)\(Darwin-x86_64-32\)-externals.tar.gz please use dots (".") as version delimiter, rather than dashes ("-"), as

Re: [PD] netsend

2017-04-15 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/15/2017 03:58 PM, cristiano piatti wrote: > Good morning, > i receive osc data through netreceive into pd. > How can i netsend these data outside from pd ? > Could someone please make me an example ? the netsend binary that comes with your Pd? not an example, but a writeup of the actual

Re: [PD] netsend

2017-04-15 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/15/2017 09:46 PM, oliver wrote: > i use the OSCX library (get it via deken) to do the job why would you use the most buggy implementation of OSC that is available for Pd? Pd>=0.46 has (simple) OSC built-in. it is also the first Pd version that includes deken, so i assume that this is your

Re: [PD] some GEM questions, shaders anyone ? ...

2017-04-15 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/14/2017 04:30 PM, cyrille henry wrote: >> >> [glsl_vertex]: error reading file >> [glsl_fragment]: error reading file >> [...] > > can you open the shader file on a windows text editor? i can think of two possible problems: - line endings (CRLF vs LF) - paths with spaces mdsa IOhannes

Re: [PD] .pdrc?

2017-04-14 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/14/2017 12:58 AM, Peter P. wrote: > Strangely neither setting > > -noautopatch > > nor > > noautopatch > > in my ~/.pdsettings disables autopatching. Specifying it on the command > line does work though. Can anyone else reproduce this? sure thing. this is mainly because ~/.pdsettings

Re: [PD] .pdrc?

2017-04-13 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/13/2017 10:39 PM, Peter P. wrote: > Hi, > > I find that my Pd does do autopatching despite > -noautopatch > being specified in my ~/.pdrc which makes me wonder if that file is read > at all? Or has the name/location of pd's config file changed by now? > This is with Pd-0.47.1 ("")

Re: [PD] Weird [cnv] object error-bug

2017-04-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-04-11 09:31, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > Hello Liam, > > no. it wasn't created in l2ork, it is all vanilla, > > Hello Ico, > > yes it has blank spaces, that is interesting, I will try without, although > it is a partial bug then, because it does work kinda until I wanna > modify

Re: [PD] Deken install path & permissions on Debian

2017-04-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 04/06/2017 10:12 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: > What's the canonical/most-favoured approach here for Debian (Linux in > general I suppose). # apt-get install pd-deken-apt this will add apt powers to deken (but of course you need supercow powers to use them) gfasdmr IOhannes signature.asc

Re: [PD] New deken feature, create system user folder

2017-04-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-04-06 06:20, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > A parallel discussion in this thread is that the system folders change in > MacOS, since ~/Library/Pd is an unusual and inconvenient place for that (an > example is processing using ~/Documents instead) i think ~/Documents is for user-created

Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

2017-04-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-04-06 06:00, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > IOhannes, please, can the cyclone page be edited and updated to include the > newer available versions? i finally found time to check that page with a backup. i have now added you and fred-jan again as "owners", so you can edit. despite being

Re: [PD] [multimodel] inconsistencies in displaying/scaling objects

2017-04-01 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/31/2017 11:40 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: > I'm using [multimodel] to load an animation of obj files made Blender. > As I play/scrub through the files I noticed that the begin to shift > around without me having to use translation or rotation. Below is a > video made to illustrate the

Re: [PD] Repeating an image texture in GEM

2017-03-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-30 12:47, Antonio Roberts wrote: > Hi Pure Data list. > > I'm attempting to repeat an image via [pix_coordinate]. The help patch > has an example of how by sending [rectangle 0, repeat 1( to > [pix_texture] but it results in there being gap between each > repetition once new

Re: [PD] Best way to shut the system down with a script launched from Pd?

2017-03-29 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/29/2017 06:04 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: > sudo pkill pd > sleep 3 > sudo pkill jackd > sleep 3 > sudo poweroff why don't you just call `poweroff`? the shutdown process will eventually kill all running processes. gfmrdsa IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [PD] accoustic guitar chord detection

2017-03-29 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/29/2017 08:28 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: > that objects [list-sort desc] and [list-compare] aren+t created with my Pd > Vanila install on a Win10 machine. Any idea why this behaviour? because these objects are from the "list-abs" library. > Do I need > some extra library for the [list]

Re: [PD] pd opens patch twice from script

2017-03-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-28 23:18, Csaba Láng wrote: > > /Applications/Pd-0.47-1-64bit.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd > /Users/xxx/Desktop/OSCcontrol.pd > sleep 5 > /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-extended > /Users/xxx/Desktop/OSCcontrolsend.pd > > every time pd starts, each instance opens twice later

Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

2017-03-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-28 02:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Me too, I'm all up for keeping the history, but this would make sense if we > were to keep using that page as a release source. As it is, there's a > conflict, either we have the cake or we eat it. i don't see your point. the current way of

Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

2017-03-27 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/27/2017 05:45 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > A while ago I managed to break the page: > > https://puredata.info/downloads/granita-minimalist-granular-synthesis > [...] > > Any idea on how to constructively fix it would be appreciated... i've deleted that folder as well... gfads IOhannes

Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

2017-03-27 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/27/2017 04:57 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > I was able to create a new project and replicate what I did, giving out the > same error, even though it was all basically empty. > > - Clicked in "Go to the release folder to add or publish a release." (which > led me to

Re: [PD] declare: multiple externals?

2017-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-27 14:53, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > using the [declare] object I experience that multiple libraries can not > be written as on the shell, eg. > -lib Gem:zexy > but have to be written lik > -lib Gem -lib zexy. > > Is that intentional or known? > don't know about the

Re: [PD] [repeat] default value

2017-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-27 14:54, Peter P. wrote: > it seems the [repeat object out of zexy has a default value of 2 when no > argument is supplied. The helpfile does not mention this though. Is 2 > the default? Thank you! [repeat] used to have no default value, and would just plainly refuse to instantiate if

Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

2017-03-26 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/26/2017 10:02 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > cyclone 0.1-alpha55 was featured as the *latest* stable release, I wanted > to remove that because that was not true and quite misleading, it seems that there is a fundamental misunderstanding here. there was no information stating that

Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

2017-03-26 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/26/2017 10:02 AM, Fred Jan Kraan wrote: > Hi, > > Indeed, something is wrong at https://puredata.info/downloads/cyclone. I > tried to recreate the page but it is still reporting a Site Error. sigh. no time to fix this now. in the meantime, it would be interesting to know what you did to

Re: [PD] editing puredata.info downloads

2017-03-25 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/25/2017 07:46 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > howdy, I was hoping to edit and update the information about cyclone in > > https://puredata.info/downloads/cyclone > > and > > https://puredata.info/downloads/by-category/library > > but it seems I have no privileges for that, can

Re: [PD] Fastest way to find lines in text file

2017-03-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-22 16:55, Jack wrote: > Le 22/03/2017 à 16:41, Christof Ressi a écrit : >> does it *really* have to be faster than 40ms? what are you trying to do? do >> you *need* the output in 0 logical time? depending on the situation you >> might want to spread the computation across multiple

Re: [PD] Pd / Purr-Data and Ausus Tinkerboard - analog sound card does not show up (alsa)

2017-03-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-22 16:57, Ingo wrote: > I wonder where the VLC player is getting ist output list from. most likely pulse audio. maybe the audio device has multiple output channels (and the two headphone channels are not the first two). try running Pd with more (8) channels. fgamsdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] list of vanilla PD objects?

2017-03-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-22 00:23, Scott R. Looney wrote: > ey folks this may have been covered before, but just curious if there's a > list of all the objects (not externals) in alphabetical order? i know about > the list of object section in the Browser but that's not as helpful egrep "^#X obj"

Re: [PD] [Deken] how to use -objects.txt feature?

2017-03-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-20 13:46, Roman Haefeli wrote: > I'm still having troubles using the feature. I uploaded the text file > manually, but the object it contains aren't indexed yet. Specifically, > I search for 'arduino' in 'Find exernals' and get an empty result. congratulations, you found a bug.

Re: [PD] [Deken] what is the version comparing syntax?

2017-03-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-20 09:57, Max wrote: > Looks correct, no? > [...] > On 2017년 03월 20일 09:53, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> 0.1~git20170101 > 0.1 the "~" is a common trick (e.g. with Debian packages) for pre-release versions. my expectation would be: - 0.0 - 0.1~git20170101 - 0.1 - 0.1+thistimeforreal -

Re: [PD] [Deken] how to use -objects.txt feature?

2017-03-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-20 10:22, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Am I doing the right thing? Also, are the indexes actived immediately > after uploading or are they updated at some scheduled intervals? the deken cmdline tool doesn't automatically upload the -objects.txt file. so you have to manually upload it. i'm

Re: [PD] [Deken] what is the version comparing syntax?

2017-03-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-20 09:53, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hey > > How does Deken compare versions? I noticed that Deken interprets: > > 1.1.1 > 1.1 > > and > > 0.1~git20170101 > 0.1 > > Looks similar to the output of the sort command. Is it actually simply > an alphabetical sort? no. deken *tries* to do a

Re: [PD] [Deken] how to use -objects.txt feature?

2017-03-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-20 09:42, Roman Haefeli wrote: > * I uploaded the package: > deken upload --()-externals.EXT i understand the generic nature of your question, but since you have practical problems it would be great if you could (also) provide the actual filenames (and directories) you used. e.g.

Re: [PD] problem compiling pd-0.47-1 on linux

2017-03-19 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/19/2017 10:50 PM, Max wrote: > On 2017년 03월 19일 21:58, Jonghyun Kim wrote: >> Hi Pd guys, >> >> I have a problem compiling pd on ubuntu 16.04.2 linux. >> >> "sudo apt-get build-dep puredata" is no longer possible? is there a "puredata" package for your (deb-based) distribution? if so, it

[PD] [PD-announce] Call for Applications - Algorithms that Matter - Artistic Research Residency

2017-03-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
— Apologies for cross-postings, please distribute — __Algorithms that Matter__ Artistic Research Residency - Call for Applications https://almat.iem.at/call Algorithms that Matter (Almat) is an artistic research project funded by the Austrian Science Fund FWF, PEEK AR 403-GBL, and based at the

Re: [PD] More font problems

2017-03-11 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/11/2017 05:20 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I'm on a clean installation of 0.47.1 on Puppy Linux (Slacko), and I'm trying > to get the font weight to "normal" instead of bold. The -font-weight flag > doesn't seem to help. maybe you the installed font doesn't provide a regular font weight

Re: [PD] screen size tcl

2017-03-08 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/08/2017 03:34 PM, Hans Roels wrote: > Hello, > > When I try to open the plugin~-help file from the Pd browser, the whole > window is white and all objects in the file are invisible. This is the > error message: > > (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: bad screen distance "-75,00" > while

Re: [PD] libPD4unity and reading sample arrays

2017-03-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-07 08:45, Scott R. Looney wrote: > the issue seems to be involving audio data arrays and [soundfiler]. mainly > it looks like adding a read command creates some kind of error, and i think > it's PD based. might be a bug, but not sure yet. > > the error happens in the attached patch in

Re: [PD] versions of libraries from extended in deken (was Different versions of iemguts library in Deken)

2017-03-03 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/03/2017 07:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Well, I did check the versions and this is what I got... machine readable format? > the ones I > couldn't find the version I marked as "not versioned"; and I think they > could just be "0.0.1" or something. how's that better than

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-02 15:11, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Don, 2017-03-02 at 14:47 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > >> https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/140 > > What about prompting for the user specific folder, even if does not > exist, and creating it when confirme

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-02 11:42, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > Proposal: > > First time Deken is used, it asks to install to the user specific > folder regardless whether it exists. If the user confirms, it > automatically creates it and download/extracts the installed external > there. If the user says "no" the

Re: [PD] howto load and install externals tutorial

2017-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-02 14:04, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Global: > /usr/lib/pd-externals (searched by Pd from package > manager) > /usr/local/lib/pd-externals (searched by used-installed Pd) this is wrong. all Pd's search in /usr/local/lib/pd-externals regardless of how they were installed. the point

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-01 21:31, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Oh, it's cause I had included it, anyway, I'm including it again then, ok? i'm not opposed to that, but I think we should **not** recommend users to make system-directories (such as `%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Pd\extra` or

Re: [PD] multiple zexy v2.2.6svn in deken

2017-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-02 03:57, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Howdy, there are two versions of v2.2.6svn from the same date and > everything and for all operating systems. Can't see any difference from > them... > > Only one of them, for mac os, is as "(darwin-i386-32)(darwin-x86_64-32)" > and the other

Re: [PD] Different versions of iemguts library in Deken

2017-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-02 03:49, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > but I think it would make much more sense to put these libraries there with > their actual version number. thank you for volunteering in finding out the actual version numbers of ~100 libraries. i will happily rename the existing libraries,

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-01 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/01/2017 09:31 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > BTW, what you're calling package manager is the application specific folder no not really (well, half-true). the application-specific folder can be a number of things. it will only be /usr/lib/pd/extra, if Pd is installed into /usr (that

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-01 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/01/2017 09:57 PM, patrice colet wrote: > Is there on linux an environment variable for this ? > > Because on my archlinux system application specific data are located at > a different place in ~/.local/share nah. there are slightly different semantics between ~/.local/share and

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-01 Thread zmoelnig
On 03/01/2017 09:47 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > you all might be aware, but you that deken still installs it in the > deprecated '~/pd-externals' path? no, deken installs into the first available (and writeable) folder. it first checks whether there is a ~/.local/lib/pd/extra folder,

Re: [PD] Linux Global folder for externals

2017-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-01 16:04, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > the Makefile.pdlibbuilder already does that for your. "that" includes creating the folder if it doesn't exist yet. gfa,sdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [PD] Linux Global folder for externals

2017-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-01 15:36, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > The Global folder for installing externals is: /usr/local/lib/pd-externals it's the global folder for locally installed externals (as opposed to system-installed externals). > compiled a new version myself... BUT... I can't find this so

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-28 07:42, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > Thank you all.. > > but I am developing patches that are handed to performers and should work > out of the box, I can't depend on the expensive machines and RAM-DISK > settings because I can not tell my performers - you need to do all of this

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-27 23:50, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 23:13 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >> On 02/27/2017 11:04 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> well, [table] stores the samples as floating point (taking 4 bytes per sample; and 8 byte on 64bit systems) >>> Why

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-27 23:46, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Just because we are at it. it's totally unrelated. > > On w32 I can have long tables but I cant get values beyond 16777216 using > [tabread]. > > Also a simple counter stops there, printing with [makefilename %d]: in general i wouldn't use

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-27 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/27/2017 07:06 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > Thank you Lucas and Ingo, > > well. I do need to load a lot of samples if I want them preloaded. > Regarding the ram post that you sent, as I understand, that is exactly what > table does, as it stores it in RAM (am I right?) well,

Re: [PD] Proper method of package removal from pd.info/Deken server?

2017-02-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-23 16:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > 2017-02-23 12:38 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoel...@iem.at>: > >> >> that's because the objects.txt file is broken. >> i wonder where you got the specs from. >> > > I saw that the description

Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive questions ...

2017-02-22 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/22/2017 09:49 PM, Giulio Moro via Pd-list wrote: > Well this is a design feature of UDP iirc, this also happens with TCP/IP, which is designed exactly to prevent such things. gamdsr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PD] Proper method of package removal from pd.info/Deken server?

2017-02-22 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/22/2017 09:14 PM, Derek Kwan wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there's a proper way of removing/deleting packages > from the puredata.info/Deken server. I uploaded our latest v0.3alpha1 > Cyclone release using an older version of Deken from the Xenial repos, > which apparently didn't

Re: [PD] soundfiler features

2017-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-22 17:11, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > good, bit depth is important too, I could add file extension to the list isn't the file-extension input data? whatever features you want to extract, i suggest to not use a specific outlet for each, but instead add a 2 info-outlet that

Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive questions ...

2017-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-22 15:16, Christof Ressi wrote: > OSC is just a way to format your data and is independend from the actual > protocol you use for transmitting the data. > Most of the time you'll find OSC over UDP (e.g. [packOSC] -> [netsend -u -b] > etc.) > but it can also be TCP ([packOSC] ->

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-22 13:26, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 11:56 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> On 2017-02-22 09:05, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> >>> If we find good font metrics, I'll submit a fix to the NSIS >>> installer >>> script

Re: [PD] soundfiler features

2017-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-22 13:08, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > In the past I found discrepancies on *sound file length*: > > [soundfiler] != [sounfile_info] > [soundfiler] == soundforge could you provide a soundfile that exhibits the problem? (not necessarily publicly). mfgjl IOhannes signature.asc

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-22 09:05, Roman Haefeli wrote: > If we find good font metrics, I'll submit a fix to the NSIS installer > script, so that installing DejaVu is part of the Pd installation > process on Windows. Yet, I'm not sure whether it is enough to simply > drop the font files into %windir%\Fonts or

Re: [PD] Pd-Vanilla & OSC Bundle

2017-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-22 09:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > I think you can't. From the help of [oscparse]: > > "oscparse and oscformat make no attempt to deal with timetags or > aggregates of packets, nor with streaming OSC." the help-file goes on: "you can alternatively use the OSC objects from mrpeach which

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-20 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/20/2017 07:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Ok, if that's the case then I would suggest not to add a user-facing > font-metrics option. +1 i'd also like to add, that we should not (ever) add an option with the sole purpose of working around bugs. if you consider the slightly

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-20 03:08, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: >> What are the practical problems with using the current >> format for the Pd preferences file under Linux? > > I don't know, so you would like to replace tried-and-tested code with something else that is known to be hard to implement correctly. for

Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-17 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/17/2017 11:07 PM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > I think that the config file is something that's becoming a “Must” . don't we have config "files" on all platforms? (on w32 it is hidden in the registry, but i don't see anything that couldn't be configured there as well). but the more important

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-17 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/17/2017 02:25 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > FWIW in pd-l2ork/purr-data loadbang fires even in dynamically created > patches. so does that mean, that if i have an abstraction "foo": [loadbang] | [f 1] | [outlet] and i dynamically create a patch including that abstraction, the loadbang

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 15:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Whenever you click the message box, you see the canvas of [pd foo] > moving a bit, depending on how "wrong" your values are. 0 0 is > certainly wrong for everyone. since this came up on my radar and i was pointed at http://wiki.tcl.tk/11502, i took the

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 15:18, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > if you want to change the size of the Pd-menu, you have to look > somewhere else... it seems like that slightly too high menu on X11 is just the way tcl/tk creates menus on that platform: just run this script (using wish): set m [menu .m

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 11:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hey all > > While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, > I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height > is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too > large. > > Can this be

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 11:09, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: >> Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without the > > user having to install it first? > > Yes, > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html > > Do you know other method? Using C code? i already

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-15 16:20, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Cool, thanx for the screen-shot. how about collecting the metrics information on some webpage (e.g. a github ticket [1]). i'm pretty sure that most of us have been lost in the recent mail storm :-) ghsm dr IOhannes [1] e.g. the recent [WIP]

Re: [PD] autotools, fonts, etc

2017-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-15 14:09, me.grimm wrote: > so Dans osx retina/autotools changes are now at github so: i don't think the retina-changes have been merged into master (unlike the autotools changes, which have). you will have to check out the "osx-retina-support" branch (which currently lags behind

Re: [PD] pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10

2017-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-15 11:35, alex tuca wrote: > i just tested my old saved pd version with this hash, > > git rev-parse HEAD > 3e1a3f2e4b83c224fc988239d8af272e3e27bd87 > > this works without core dump thanks. could you do a `git bisect` to find the commit that introduced the coredump? fgmasdr

Re: [PD] pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10

2017-02-14 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/14/2017 09:42 PM, alex tuca wrote: > with debug option, [...] > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x in ?? () > (gdb) backtrace > #0 0x in ?? () > #1 0x5562e9ed in jack_open_audio (inchans=2, outchans=2, rate=44100, >

Re: [PD] pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10

2017-02-14 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/14/2017 04:42 PM, alex tuca wrote: > (gdb) run > Starting program: /usr/local/bin/pd -jack -nrt > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] > Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. >

Re: [PD] pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10

2017-02-14 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/14/2017 04:24 PM, alex tuca wrote: > hallo, > > i just compiled pd from git > git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data > > compiled it with jack: > ./configure --enable-jack > > i deleted the .pdsettings file, when i change audioengine to jack, pd core > dumps. here the

Re: [PD] "sorry: only 5 args typechecked; use A_GIMME"

2017-02-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-12 22:23, Chris Chronopoulos wrote: > registered with class_new(..., A_DEFFLOAT) be sufficient for this simple > case? this worked for me on 0.43.4; why doesn't it work in 0.47? > oh. of course Pd can do *that* for you. the problem here is, that your code is just bogus: class_new()

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/09/2017 11:19 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Purr Data is now released. congrats. > Purr Data inherits the goodness of Pd-l2ork so if Purr Data is distinct from Pd-l2ork, why is it distributed as pd-l2ork (e.g. filenames)? gfmdsar IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [PD] Unable to load a film with [pix_film]

2017-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-07 14:45, girard-t...@orange.fr wrote: > don’t understand why pd can’t load my film. I’m using the pix_film.help > patch and when I try to open a file, in any format all I have is : > check #1: do the files open with other players? (e.g. VLC) > [pix_film]: opening

Re: [PD] un-routable output from [text get]

2017-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-07 09:24, Liam Goodacre wrote: > This explanation makes sense, however I am using non ASCII characters in the > textfile (not the one attached, but the one I'm working on), so I guess that > I need the BOM to stay there. no. the BOM was just another useless invention. UTF-8 (unlike

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/06/2017 09:03 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > but even extra objects are "vanilla" right? but being "vanilla" has little to do with being "external" or not. fmgdas IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [PD] message to pd to get used absractions/externals of a patch?

2017-02-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/06/2017 05:50 PM, bensonlist wrote: > the reason for this is, i just started to use pdparty on an ipad (very > successfully). And just for now, i transferred only the used abstractions to > the ipad. but i use more and more of them... and i'm not sure if it is a > clever idea to transfer

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/06/2017 06:18 PM, Giulio Moro via Pd-list wrote: >> I don't know why [expr~] is usually not considered vanilla because it used to be not part of Pd. technically, an external is a nobject that lives outside the main binary of Pd. since all the objects in extra/ are not part of the Pd binary,

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 14:07, Peter P. wrote: >> this is a left-over from the days of the pipe-dreams of co-existing >> pd-vanilla and pd-extended Debian packages. > And could be consolidated maybe even? well, i don't see any harm in being open to multiple (binary compatible) implementations. i don't see

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 14:11, cyrille henry wrote: >> Funny there are no internal objects for this. > for a vanilla only solution, hmm, [expr~] *is* vanilla. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 13:41, Peter P. wrote: > Not really. I just prefer to have files and folders once on my system if > that's sufficient for proper operation as it is easier to remember and > maintain for me. actually, the /usr/lib/... is just a symlink to /usr/share/..., so the files are indeed only

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 13:34, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: > > How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just if > it is bigger or smaller than a reference value, and receive the result > as an audio signal as well? Are there <~ an

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 13:09, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > using the amazing Debian packages of Pd and am puzzled to find that the > following two paths seem owned by the same package puredata-core and > seem to exist twice: > > peter@computer:~$ dpkg-query -S /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff >

Re: [PD] "sorry: only 5 args typechecked; use A_GIMME"

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 07:42, Chris Chronopoulos wrote: > Code is attached. Any suggestions? What's this typechecking/A_GIMME Pd has special, "optimized" functions to check the types of arguments. basically, if you have a callback function (and from a pure "C" perspective, the class-methods of an objects

Re: [PD] [relay] bug (zexy library)

2017-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-02 15:11, Christof Ressi wrote: > When I load zexy, I get a post in my Pd console which tells me "♡ the zexy > external 2.2.6svn" > > Is this enough to justify my belief I'm using zexy-2.2.6? no. it just confirmst that you installed zexy-2.2.6svn, which was a pre-release. >

Re: [PD] [relay] bug (zexy library)

2017-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-02 14:43, Christof Ressi wrote: > I think he rather wanted to confirm that this bug still exists... how come? since he was replying to my email, i thought that *this* referred to the content of my email. > I also get that crash with the latest zexy version available at deken >

Re: [PD] [relay] bug (zexy library)

2017-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-02 14:18, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > I just confirmed this in pd vanilla 0.47-1 thanks for confirming that the bug is indeed fixed. fgasdfm IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] [relay] bug (zexy library)

2017-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-02 13:35, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I've noticed that PD crashes abruptly when using [relay] in the following way: > [...] > > I'm using zexy 2.2.6. are you sure? this bug has been reported as [sf1194] and fixed in 2015-08-15 (svn:17538, git:ba559cdf). zexy-2.2.6 was released 2016-01-22.

Re: [PD] [coll] bug

2017-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-02 01:14, Derek Kwan wrote: > After a few days away from it and coming back to discuss the issue, I > think threaded as the default makes sense GRANTED that it is well > documented and there's an included explanation of why this differs from > normal Pd usage. I wouldn't want users new

Re: [PD] repackaging externals on Deken

2017-01-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-01-23 05:00, Liam Goodacre wrote: > What would be involved in forking an external I don't think there is any good fool-proof, one-click solution. but i do think that forking the source code for the sake of distributing is the worst solution. i would probably: - specify the requirements

Re: [PD] repackaging externals on Deken

2017-01-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-01-21 15:11, cyrille henry wrote: > > for patch that are located in the project_folder, you can load > [unique_directory_name/counter]. > this way your can be sure that you will not load any "counter" that came > with any other lib. however, as a side-effectm aby [counter] object loaded

Re: [PD] repackaging externals on Deken

2017-01-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-01-21 11:50, katja wrote: > Choosing a unique name for an external is indeed the best warranty to avoid > conflicts. the problem is of course to create those "unique" names. "context_initbang" could easily nameclash. UUID could be used, but has other drawbacks

Re: [PD] [line] discontinuity

2017-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-01-15 22:58, Miller Puckette wrote: > I can't understand what is wrong... if you 'stop' a line~ and then later > give it a new target, it ramps form the position it had stoped at. I think > this is the most reasonable behavior. Or is it doing something different > somehow? it starts

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