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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Single use camera
I have to disagree here. If I'm going to spend whatever it costs to
develop
film, I want it to be high quality. My daughter often uses a Samsung
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 23:05:25 -0700
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bring this up as a real world experience of someone using a DSLR -
they are not the silver bullet to solve all our problems. Seems they
solve a set of problems and create their own set. Just different -
not a full
Hi Vic - about 25 seconds on my PIII/450 mHz system and 56k dial-up,
using MSIE
HTH
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
On Friday, October 11, 2002 2:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hey guys I'm trying to get a website up and running on AOL using
their
software.
Hey Vic, Bruce 'D' :)
I just loaded it up, I'm on a nice cable connection. Loaded instantly for
me. Yes it's late (early?) here, 3:45am, and btw Vic, it looks quite nice,
even in it's initial stages. Only one bad item, and I'm sure you dislike it
as much as any of us -- the stupid AOL ad
It might be some server between me and pdml.net which also improved at
the exact same time, but I am getting pretty amazing response times now.
I am sure it will come down to really slow after some time just because
I mentioned it is fast now... ;-)
Antti-Pekka
At 02:52 11.10.2002 -0400, Brad
Kevin, Bruce,
- Then for the low price of $8.95 they could purchase one of more of
prints of the digital images. The prints were 6x7.
On closer inspection the images were
blurred and often out of focus. This is no fault of the camera but
of the photographer. The lens he was using was
Antti-Pekka.
Heh, yes, did you knock on wood? :) I would guess it probably takes about
3-5mins for my posts to show up. Well, besides some remarks coming in
before the original email, it sometimes seems to me that it builds up a
queue and all of a sudden, I'll get this rush of emails (can't be
I just timed the last e-mail I sent... it took less than 10 seconds to
show up. That is right.. just seconds! That's why I said it is extremely
fast now...
Antti-Pekka
At 04:12 11.10.2002 -0400, you wrote:
Antti-Pekka.
Heh, yes, did you knock on wood? :) I would guess it probably takes about
Wow! 10s? Lucky you! *grumble grumble* :) Odd too. Am I mistaken if I say
the listserver is somewhere in the US? You'd think I'd have that time, but
it crosses the ocean and ends up in Finland...must be a *lot* of hops.
Interesting.
Brad Dobo
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From: Antti-Pekka
Hey guys I'm trying to get a website up and running on AOL using their
software. Sometimes it loads quickly. other times it seems to take forever.
Could a few of you try it and tell me if it's quick or if it takes forever.
It's very early in the process so there's not much there right now.
Actually, 21 hops. Pinging pdml.net takes about 150ms :-) Most of Finland is
connected using a very fast backbone and the route to US is also very fast
and wide nowadays (at least the one we're on).
And there does not seem to be any additional MX in the path between pdml hosting
server and our
You dear sweet thing, Heiko. Bless you.
:-)) But only to keep the facts clear: I'm a 1.92m tall Teutonic fellow.
I don't know the British standard specifications for a sweet thing...;-)
OOPS. ROTFL.
Ahem, what was I thinking? My S.O. has a German friend and I think she's
called Heike or
BTW - if Pentax would release a DSLR in the next e.g. 12 months - would
you change back to Pentax? I assume that it would have similar features
as the D60 and a higher resolution. Let us also assume, that this
wouldn't be a financial disaster...;-)
Now this is the 64 million dollar
FA100 2.8
FA 50 2.8
FA 100 4
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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But Dave, the difference is that you are a real
Photographer who likes film but shoots digital for
buisness, not shooting digital for buisness and
claiming to be a real photographer. Also the flip side
is, people are willing to pay more for reduced
quality, Dave you might not sell the blurry, out
I really do like your London pictures. I was juts there myself, and my
pictures are mostly architectural. I really like pictures with people,
but it seems that I am always taken with buildings.
How many times have your been to London? Or, for any city you are
familiar with, did the nature
My 645 came in last night...Its actually much larger and heavier than I
remember it being when I played with it in teh store (which means the 6x7
must be mammoth compared to what I remember). Needless to say, I'm quite
happy...
However, I've got some questions..
First off, it came with the
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what lenses would you suggest for a reportage/photojournalistic style of
shooting for a wedding or event ?
I've had a few people say that they would use standard lenses and only go
as wide as 28mm.
I sort of did something like this for a friend
Ken Waller wrote:
What was the size of the images that you were comparing?
Ken,
The pictures I refer to were around 50x70cm, not postcards.
In any case, my statement that good digital SLR's can match more or less
the quality of 24x36mm film SLR's means that they compare more or less,
not
One last thought ... during the ceremony when no flash is allowed, I load up
with Ilford Delta 3200 and rate it at ISO 1600 and shoot without flash.
Mostly use the 80-320 because you can't get too close. Never been
disappointed.
Glen
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David,
I shoot PJ wedding photography every week. I use my 28-105 the most. Great
for everything from wide angle (dance floor) shots to portraits. When I want
to be a little less obtrusive and catch people unaware (more from a
distance) I pull out the 80-320 and usually shoot in the 150 to 200mm
Does the D100 have a control for contrast? Some digitals do. If it does, it would make
it less necessary to tweak things later.
BR
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From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
He agreed, but said that he had hoped that
taking digital images would basically
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Ok..
Here's the rub:
what lenses would you suggest for a
reportage/photojournalistic style of
shooting for a wedding or event ?
I've had a few people say that they would use standard
lenses and only go
as
The best I can remember is they are there for info only purposes.
Right, so those labels off to teh side of the display (Av/Tv/ISO) don't
actually have any corresponding dots or something IN the display?
I'll look at my 645n and see if it's on that also. I can't recall the
hole you're asking
Okay, you've got me scratching my head. How can it be a real print, if
it was made from a digital image? You need a light transmitting negative
to make a real print.
I would classify anything that's not an inkjet style print as being a real
print, as I was under the impression the new digital
Going from 4x5 to 8x10.
(Yes, I found a bargain. What else?)
Got a bunch of 4x5 35mm stuff to part with:
Busch Pressman 'D' $150
Good condition. Far from perfect. Top rangefinder.
Very practical camera body with useful features.
With lensboard, no lens.
Xenar 150/4.5 in Copal 1
Hello Francis
The MX is 20 years old +/- all of these cameras will have rotting foam in the mirror
box and around the back. I know it's an expense but I suggest getting the camera CLA'd
anyway. You should then be okay for another 20 years. It's worth it, a serviced MX is
lovely to use,
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1) wrote:
The best I can remember is they are there for info only purposes.
Works for me, that's kinda what I figured, but I wanted to ensure the LCD
wasn't broken or misdisplaying while I've still got a chance to send it
back.
I'll look at my 645n
gfen wrote:
There's two mystery holes around the tripod socket. One is inline with the
socket hole, and towards the back of the camera.. perhaps that's the
accessory hole, the other one is infront of the socket, and to teh top
(inline with the corner), and is actually a little screw socket
Hi Cotty,
on 11 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list:
You dear sweet thing, Heiko. Bless you.
:-)) But only to keep the facts clear: I'm a 1.92m tall Teutonic
fellow. I don't know the British standard specifications for a sweet
thing...;-)
ROTFL.
Me too. :-)
Ahem, what was I thinking? My S.O. has
Hi Cotty,
on 11 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list:
When considering digital, I wanted the right hardware at the earliest
opportunity. The D30 was not in that category for me. The D60 or D100
was. Higher resolution for one. For another, it's a couple of generations
down the line.
Yes, D60 and
Hi Anthony,
on 11 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list:
The unfortunate situation (for Pentax and her fans) is that C*n*n is a
big-time manufacturer of electronic imaging systems and not just for
photographic applications. It's office products division is BIG, by
comparison the resources that it
It's not the manual rewind knob is it?
On the bottom of the camera there should be a threaded
knob that looks like a battery cover only it has black
rubber around it. It's missing from a lot of used 645's.
And I don't meen the internal small battery cover.
If this knob is there you'll know it.
I was in the local international magazine store in town thumbing through the latest
Amateur Photographer. I opened it someplace in the middle and thought What the
.
I
KNOW these pictures!
The 12 October issue has a feature article on freelance photographer Janet Wishnetsky.
Janet (who
Hi Tim,
on 10 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list:
Where did you order it from? I ordered one from Pixmania last week but
they told me they've been recalled and will be re-released later in the
month due to a problem with the USB interface - I hope they do, I'll be
It has arrived today! It came
Heiko Hamann wrote:
Hi Anthony,
on 11 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list:
Canon's strategy might be also quite risky: they must have invested a
lot of money into research and development but I can't imagine that a
11MP Canon 1Ds can compete with a 14MP Kodak that cost only a half. So
No
From elsewhere,
BTW, the chip for the Kodak DCS 14n is made by Fillfactory, the same company
which makes the CMOS for Leaf's C-MOST back. You can learn about this
company's chip technology at their web site:
http://www.fillfactory.com/index2.htm
Kodak has a 24 X 36 CCD chip of their own, but
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But Dave, the difference is that you are a real
Photographer who likes film but shoots digital for
buisness, not shooting digital for buisness and
claiming to be a real photographer. Also the flip side
is, people are willing to pay more for
Heiko Hamann wrote:
generation phase. In five years or so we will have the optimal chip size
and resolution - maybe 50MP full frame - an we will look back on all the
50MP would be an interesting number. I'm guessing this would be about
a 5 micron pixel size- which may be just a bit
Just wondering, what focusing screen are you using in
the MX? Using an
LX screen on an MX can cause meter inaccuracies,
however, 1/30 to 1/250
is a large difference.
Jose,
I believe this is the split-screen.
Just a dumb question (but I've made this mistake in
the past so it is
not a
dig
Anton wrote:
The MX is 20 years old +/- all of these cameras will
have rotting foam in the mirror box and around the
back. I know it's an expense but I suggest getting the
camera CLA'd anyway. You should then be okay for
another 20 years. It's worth it, a serviced MX is
lovely to use,
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1) wrote:
It's not the manual rewind knob is it?
Nope, those are, as you said, definatly on the bottom. Matter of fact, I
thought that little plate was supposed to hold a battery until I checked
on it.
However, based on what somenoe said in the
Sorry,
But the knob is only in it's holding place
on the bottom, you have to move it to the
side to use it. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
The 67 K adapters do not allow auto metering,
you must use stop-down metering.
I have never tried to figure the lens comparisons
from format to format. It's
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From: Arathi-Sridhar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* if I am going to depress the film rewind button and prevent the film
from
advancing, why would I need to tighten the rewind crank with a rubber
band?
Not a silly question at all. It's just to ensure accuracy; that the film
well, the 50mm is a pentax 1.7 (I own 2 of them now ^_^)
and the zoom is a albinar 1.38
I don't know whether it's crap or not...
On 9 Oct 2002, at 16:41, frank theriault wrote:
Hi, Katrin,
First, let me add my welcome to the list, along with the others.
Second, $115US (or thereabouts)
I found this page here...
http://members.iinet.net.au/~cam/serial/
mine mx has 919 and the me has 123
sorry for the stupid question, but which part is the film holder? my
english is not at it's best when it comes to photography.. but I hope
that changes soon ^_^
thanks
On 10 Oct
thanks for the explanation ^_^
it feels not so strange anymore, I guess most of that came from
not being used for some time
bye Katrin
The MX film wind-on lever has a stand-off position, whereby the wind
lever only starts winding film and cocking the shutter from this
position. The
Tried to load it a couple of times.
Notably the first time, but also once about a minute later, the AOL server
started the transfer of the page and then just stopped. Seems like the
server has a slight problem there. Very little you can do about that.
However, You should consider reducing the
I've been giving this alot of thought. I've shot 4-5 weddings in the last
couple of years, and I've been trying to come down to a conclusion as to how
I like to shoot weddings. My observations in regards to lenses are these;
1) I like to take candids, and 2) I don't like using flash during
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1) wrote:
But the knob is only in it's holding place
on the bottom, you have to move it to the
side to use it. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
Nope, that's OK, I knew what you meant.
The 67 K adapters do not allow auto metering,
you must use stop-down
Ryan wrote:
RKB The point being, this is not going to be like computers where we've gone
RKB literally a 1000 magnitudes in a few decades.We've got less than one
RKB magnitude of image sensor capability left in a 35mm system.
Definitely. With light wavelengths just below one micron,
DSLRs have been around for years. It is naive to think that DSLRs are in their first
generation. Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've
sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Pentax has passed
on high end digital.
BR
Katrin wrote:
sorry for the stupid question, but which part is the film holder? my
english is not at it's best when it comes to photography.. but I hope
that changes soon ^_^
thanks
Probably me using the wrong words! I should have said Memo holder. The
square thing on the back of the camera
MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1) wrote:
The 67 K adapters do not allow auto metering,
you must use stop-down metering.
Doesn't the 67-to-645 adapter have diaphragm coupling?
Not that this was what was being asked about, but I'm interested in possibly
getting some 67 lenses for my 645 someday.
--
As soon as we can do a get together,or i can meet you after work some
were.Im in the Hwy 7 404 seam
Dave
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From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: DSLR - I know, I know
Who said this has anything to
Ga day Bruce.Sure do.
Dave
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From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: DSLR - I know, I know
Bruce,
Thanks for the tips. I'll pass them along to him. I
According to St. Ansel's The Camera, a given focal length lens will
project the same size subject on the negative, regardless of format. For
example, if, on a 35mm negative, a 50mm lens creates an image that is 1/2
inch high, the same length lens (50mm) will create an image that is 1/2 inch
high
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well, the 50mm is a pentax 1.7 (I own 2 of them now ^_^)
and the zoom is a albinar 1.38
I don't know whether it's crap or not...
Its optical qualities are probably no better than today's cheap consumer zooms
(which means not very good) but I'll bet its mechanical
I work Pharmacy and steeles lol
--- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As
soon as we can do a get together,or i can meet
you after work some
were.Im in the Hwy 7 404 seam
Dave
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From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October
I have an hour after work on Wednesday before i need to be at the
class.Could meet ???
Dave
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From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: DSLR - I know, I know
I work Pharmacy and steeles lol
--- David
thanks for the explanation ^_^
I guessed something like that, but I wasn't sure
Mine are made of metal I think, so I seem to have some older
fellows ^_^
Katrin
On 11 Oct 2002, at 15:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Katrin wrote:
sorry for the stupid question, but which part is the film
Just for a test set the ISO dial to to make the meter give the same reading
as the ME and hand-held. Usr slide film and compare the results.
Christian
On Friday 11 October 2002 13:54, Francis Alviar wrote:
Just wondering, what focusing screen are you using in
the MX? Using an
LX screen on
Rubenstein, Bruce M
DSLRs have been around for years. It is naive to think that DSLRs
are in their first generation. Thinking that Pentax will start
selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than
simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Pentax has passed on
high end
--- Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Single use camera
I have to disagree here. If I'm going to spend
whatever it costs to
develop
film, I want it to be
well, the 50mm is a pentax 1.7 (I own 2 of them now ^_^)
and the zoom is a albinar 1.38
I don't know whether it's crap or not...
Its optical qualities are probably no better than today's cheap consumer zooms
(which means not very good) but I'll bet its mechanical construction is. Stop
This is what the description of the mount is from the
BH wesite.
Allows Pentax 67-system lenses to be used on the Pentax 645 body.
Aperture-Priority AE 2, metered manual and TTL auto flash modes can be used
I don't know enough about the 67 mount to give a good answer.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/11/02
at 12:35 PM, Debra Wilborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
|So, what are you trying to say?
|Deb :)
~136 quoted lines to add 8 words is a bit exessive isn't it?
Bran
--
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Any Discordian is expressedly
What Mark said really underscores the essence of PJ
style: spontanaety. Hence wide lenses. I think flash
kind of kills the mood of whatever you're trying to
shoot, so go fast.
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what lenses would you suggest
Deb, you are too kind :)
The value of language is increased by repetition. I
wanted Brad to feel important. :)
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think
Canon makes a medium format camera. It's just that their pro
35mm bodies are so darn big compared to our lovely compact
Pentaxes, they look MF!
You were right! I saw the photographer yesterday. The Canon was a 35mm,
but he also
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