Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)

2004-07-11 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Bob W wrote: [ from Knarf ] Isn't that the stuff that men used to put in their hair to, you know, like slick it down? Back in the 50's and 60's, there was Brylcreem and Vitriol, IIRC (I was only a kid then). No - you must be thinking of Victrola... you're both off the mark

RE: At World's end

2004-07-11 Thread Jens Bladt
Nice photegraph, Jostein. I like a photograph that gives you information - yor explanation is fine too. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. juli 2004 23:25 Til: [EMAIL

PAW: The Temptation of Eve

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
The first of a series. Somewhat risque. Not for children. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2516284

RE: PAW: SEX With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread El Gringo
You used the word SEX man. SSXXX... Its wrong and you should know better!! (sarcasm) Using words like sex in public is sin, and the Baptist preachers will require a double tithe or they wont be able to convince Jesus to save your soul... Because, when the preacher gets a BMW, we all

RE: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi William could you explain that cartoon like face thing a bit more? I got some ugly violet artifacts on skin parts on most of my enlargements of 20x30 cm black and white photos which I did not see on my monitor before transmitting the pictures to the on line service. The prints where simple

RE: Polaroid/Agfa

2004-07-11 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Bill what do you like the Agfa negative film for? Compared to Fuji Superia for ex. or Kodak? And which type and ISO do you use, color and b/W ? Do you have a favorite brand for b/w negative film? Agfa ISO 200 Vista negative color is sold in packs of 4 films with a big discount at the moment

Re: PAW: Angel sighting

2004-07-11 Thread Jostein
Great shot, Ken. I might have to start hating you for that FA*600 lens, though...:-) Maybe Boris was thinking of f as in f-16? What kind of planes are they? Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004

Re: PSE: Quick shot after a long day at work

2004-07-11 Thread Keith Whaley
Beautiful indeed! Do you carry this black cloth around with you for this purpose? keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts posted: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/_IGP0717.jpg In the garden behind the house. ist-D, ISO 800, FA*80-200/2.8 Beautiful! ER

Re: Couple of Pics

2004-07-11 Thread Jostein
Don, Glad you came out of the closet...:-) Those are very good photos, imo. What I like most with them is the way the light enhances the composition. Especially the stroke of sunlight on the distant buildings in the lower picture. Lovely moods in both of them. Cheers, Jostein - Original

Re: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Jostein
Jim, What's the matter? From your text you come across as just having an allergy for a certain three-letter word? Puzzled, Jostein - Original Message - From: Jim Colwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 3:07 AM Subject: PAW: Sex With Filing

Re: Pentax MF Digital

2004-07-11 Thread Jostein
Brian Walters referred that revelation to the list just a few hours ago. Maybe his message hadn't reached you yet. It certainly brings more fuel to the rumor fire towards Photokina. It brings some more substance to the press release from Kodak a year ago about cooperation with Pentax for a MedF

RE: Couple of Pics

2004-07-11 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Jostein, coming from you that means a lot. I've decided to try to take more time to work on technique, so maybe I'll get better. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 4:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Couple of

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View Hi William could you explain that cartoon like face thing a bit more? I got some ugly violet artifacts on skin parts on most of my enlargements of 20x30 cm black and white photos which I did not

Re: Max weight of tele lens on *ist D

2004-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: Max weight of tele lens on *ist D Well, what about vertical shots, where the camera has to be flopped, vs the lens mount rotated? I would assume vertical shots are trickier to keep sharp on long lenses w/out tripod mounts. If

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Miers Subject: RE: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View Mini labs are mass market machines. The pros who want the big files are doing their own scans. William Robb Are the pros with large size files from high res scans limited to printing from

Technical PAW

2004-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I should say I made another step against the stream (digital g). I've enabled myself with Voigtlander Perkeo I folder (6x6). Below is just raw scan with minimal clean up and resizing to fit the screen. The model is yet another ME Super with M 50/1.7 lens... Very lonely.

RE: Fixing a viewfinder

2004-07-11 Thread David Weiss
Don Sanderson said: With the proper tools and a little patience it's not too bad. Can you give me a few details, such as needed tools, etc.? Any adhesives needed or foam? Are the tools needed to take off the chrome cover basically? Anything else to watch for when the cover is off? Yes,

Re: PAW: The Temptation of Eve

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank. It was a fun shoot. I did some others with red light. They're intereting as well. It's also very interesting that you replied. The original message never showed up in my mail. I guess some people got it. Paul On Jul 11, 2004, at 8:33 AM, frank theriault wrote: --- Paul

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread graywolf
Well, I would agree that that is the only economical way. I was thinking of this the other day, I would some day like to try my hand with platinum prints. Then I got to thinking, if I do that it would be stupid to put them under glass where you could not see the subtleties of the print. After I

Re: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Jostein, in this part of the world, violence is okay, sex is bad. You can show someone getting hacked up on national tv, but you damn well better not show someone's ass! Norm Jostein wrote: Jim, What's the matter? From your text you come across as just having an allergy for a certain

Re: PAW: The Temptation of Eve

2004-07-11 Thread Keith Whaley
frank theriault wrote: --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first of a series. Somewhat risque. Not for children. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2516284 Interesting. Very interesting. I think what I like about it is that the young lady with holding the sword and apple

Re: Fw: Another *istD pic (PTAW?)

2004-07-11 Thread Fred
(PTAW = Picture Twice A Week...) Could we ~please~ not change from PAW ? If everyone does his/her own thing, it will make it more difficult for those of us who manage their list mail with filtering. Thanks for your consideration. Fred

Re: Technical PAW

2004-07-11 Thread Keith Whaley
Quite nice... The focus was selective...the depth of field is correct but subtle. You have to look at the wood grain on the benches to see it was spot-on. I think this would look good blown up to 11x14. There's something about it... I have an Agfa Isolette III (6x6 cm format) with a brand-new

Re: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, July 11, 2004, 4:06:48 PM, Norm wrote: Jostein, in this part of the world, violence is okay, sex is bad. You can show someone getting hacked up on national tv, but you damn well better not show someone's ass! I'm sure it's only Republicans that think that way:

Re: RE: Fixing a viewfinder

2004-07-11 Thread Don Sanderson
I have about a zillion things to do this AM, I'll get this posted later today. I'll see if I can scan a page from the 1000 service manual and put it up, this should help. Don -Original Message- From: David Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:28 AM To:

RE: Technical PAW

2004-07-11 Thread Don Sanderson
Vey nice! Guess I'll have to play with the124G a bit more. Don -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 10:27 AM To: PDML Subject: Technical PAW Hi! I should say I made another step against the stream (digital g). I've

RE: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread El Gringo
Actually, I'd a take D70 with a pentax name on it... Films days are numbered. Just because one catalog out of thousands has more film stuff than digital just means those guys are milking the remaining film market pretty effectively. Film and Digital are at the point now where each makes some

Re: Technical PAW

2004-07-11 Thread cbwaters
That looks like one of my fears. That I've left my camera sitting on a bench somewhere.. CW goes to put his eyes on his cameras. - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: Technical PAW Hi! I

Re: for Peter and his dog

2004-07-11 Thread Peter J. Alling
I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. I haven't participated in the list for the last few days because Elton breathed his last breath on July 5th. If I had followed the emergency vet's advice he wouldn't have had the last 10 days of his life, 8 of which were very good days. He

Re: Selling Pentax 35mm gear (tough choices-cotty's dog)

2004-07-11 Thread Peter J. Alling
Dotty wrote: On 4/7/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered: That's a difficult decision Cotty. You may not have made the best financial decision but you made the right decision for your peace of mind. How old is the dog and what is the prognosis... Vic He means Peter. Ah, now I

Re: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Peter J. Alling
Then why are all the criminals in Florida democrats, they can't all be sex offenders, can they Bob W wrote: Hi, Sunday, July 11, 2004, 4:06:48 PM, Norm wrote: Jostein, in this part of the world, violence is okay, sex is bad. You can show someone getting hacked up on national tv, but you

Re: PAW: The Temptation of Eve

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Keith. They're both women. I went back and redid the RAW. It was too blue. Here's the warmed up version: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2517097 I deleted the earlier one. Hope that doesn't inconvenience anyone. Paul On Jul 11, 2004, at 11:10 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: frank

Re: Couple of Pics

2004-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! DS Just so you know that I DO take photos once in a while. ;-) DS http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Ellis.htm Here are my cents. The Ellis Park at Sunset has very interesting lines. It looks like a skeleton of some odd animal is hiding in the bushes. Ellis Harbor at Dawn is yet another

Re: iWitness - work in progress by Tom Stoddart

2004-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! BW Hi, BW a lot of it is very gruesome: BW http://www.i-witness.net/ Very sad but unfortunately true. Technically perfect. Emotionally stunning... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: PAW: The Temptation of Eve

2004-07-11 Thread Keith Whaley
Paul Stenquist wrote: Hi Keith. They're both women. I stand corrrected. Thank you. keith I went back and redid the RAW. It was too blue. Here's the warmed up version: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2517097 I deleted the earlier one. Hope that doesn't inconvenience anyone. Paul On

Re: ZX/MZ-5n vs ZX-L/MZ-6

2004-07-11 Thread thibouille
Thanks a lot for all your comments. I'll definitely look for a 5n as soon as I find a good one on Ebay (or if one of you has one at a good price). REgards, Thibouille

Tell me about Provia 100F

2004-07-11 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Hi all, I rarely shoot chromes. The other day however I got a 5 pack of Provia 100F, 120-film, for free, just to try out on my 1930-40-ish Zeiss Ikon Nettar (6x9 cm) and maybe on some other odd MF body. I am sure some of you have experience of, or know this film very well. Could you please tell

Re: PAW: Angel sighting

2004-07-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Norm, thanks for taking the time to look and comment. Any ideas for improving the artistic rating? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher Subject: Re: PAW: Angel sighting Cool shot Kenneth, that rocks! Although artistically, I would give it a zero. Cheers, Norm

Re: PAW: Angel sighting

2004-07-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Jostein, the planes are FA-18 Hornets built by Mcdonnell Douglas. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW: Angel sighting Great shot, Ken. I might have to start hating you for that FA*600 lens, though...:-) Maybe Boris was thinking of f

Re: PAW: Angel sighting

2004-07-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Boris, AAAHHHAAA For some reason I thought you were referring to f stops! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW: Angel sighting Hi! KW Boris, KW Thanks for taking the time to look and comment. KW I'm at a loss for - I am

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread Mark Dalal
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am convinced that at this point, the only way to get a good black and white print is still the old fashioned way, with film and a darkroom. Indeed. I've tried various methods of digital BW printing. I had an Epson 860 with the MIS Full Spectrum

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread Mark Dalal
--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are folks supposed to know what a truly good print looks like when they are prevented from seeing them properly. Oil paintings are not always under glass, but photographs seem to be. How strange? Hmmm, well I've been to several exhibits and can

Re: Fw: Another *istD pic (PTAW?)

2004-07-11 Thread Jostein
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, to quantify; Less than 1/4 way down, there is a curving line which could either be the horizon or a change in the colour of the clouds if the horizon is in the trees. Almost halfway from the right is a downward loop in this line. Above it and very

Re: PAW: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread DagT
I have been on the net almost as long as you, but I haven´t seen many pictures like Franks there. Do you have any recommendations? DagT På 11. jul. 2004 kl. 03.07 skrev Jim Colwell: frank, I'm new to PDML, but I've been on the www since it was a DARPA project in the 1970's. There are many

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread graywolf
Sure, and don't go looking at http://apug.org either. Actually what seems to be happening is PDML has become the Pentax Digital Mailing List in the past year. -- El Gringo wrote: Actually, I'd a take D70 with a pentax name on it... Films days are numbered. -- graywolf

Re: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Jostein
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 4:06:48 PM, Norm wrote: Jostein, in this part of the world, violence is okay, sex is bad. You can show someone getting hacked up on national tv, but you damn well better not show someone's ass! To which Bob W. replied: I'm sure it's only Republicans that think

Re: Tell me about Provia 100F

2004-07-11 Thread Mark Dalal
--- Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please tell me something about it's characteristics and what kind of shooting you find it best (and maybe not so well)suited for? I was thinking of using it for shooting a model in a lot of skin. Provia 100F is good for several

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread Bill Owens
We processed a roll of XP2 today and printed it on the 375. This machine has a setting for BW negatives and I was impressed with the results. Bill The only good black and white option that I have seen so far involve darkrooms. William Robb

Re: Polaroid/Agfa

2004-07-11 Thread Bill Owens
My slides from the 1960's on the old Agfachrome 64 are fine, but I don't have enough old negatives to render an opinion. Bill - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Polaroid/Agfa On 11 Jul 2004

RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness

2004-07-11 Thread El Gringo
When I first got my istD I was very worried about the 3-5 hot pixels, some red, some purple, one blue, that tended to turn up in longish exposures. And the red pixel that showed up in 80% of my exposures at the same position. Well, after about a month, I completely got over the hot-pixel

RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness

2004-07-11 Thread David Miers
if it's not very easy to pick out, well, then it must not be very easy to pick out, so why worry?? I got excited about the hot pixel issue when it first came up, but when I realized it was somewhat normal I settled down. If noticed it's really easy to fix. My main concern would be not

RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness

2004-07-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Jul 2004 at 21:13, El Gringo wrote: Dust causes me more problems than hot pixels do, in fact, hot pixels are the best kind of flaw, they're in the same place every time I prefer dust personally, I can get rid of it easily, not so hot pixels. The degree of the problem to the individual

Re: back again....

2004-07-11 Thread Peter J. Alling
Glad your back, better than last. Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: hi guys and gals, well, after a really rough week, i'm back. i have actually felt unbelievably lonely this week without your emails flooding my inbox! i'm not going into details now, as i am really emotional and also exhausted, but

Re: back again....

2004-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Welcome back! Boris

Re: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness

2004-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Miers Subject: RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness I'm guessing it will worsen, but will it be at a rate that is even an issue? What's the oldest *ist D on this list right now? Since Canon Nikon have had DSLR's longer, some of their statistics

Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View Many of you seem to want a digital Rebel, with a Pentax name tag on it, sold in Wal-Mart by pimple faced kids who don't even know how to spell photography. Wheatfield and I resemble that remark!

Re: PAW: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: PAW: Sex With Filing Cabinet Works great for getting rid of Jehovas Witnesses and door-to-door salesmen, too! You wanna get rid of the door to door annoyances? http://pug.komkon.org/01nov/2Rotties.html Hot Spit!!! WW

RE: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Simon King
Hi Frank, Great shots. I love the choice of media and composition, and they just have a certain feel that I really like (and I must confess to preferring the first one) Sorry I can't be more specific. Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: PAW: Angel sighting

2004-07-11 Thread Gonz
Nice pic, but a little more saturation might bring out the perceived colors. Like this shot I took and posted a couple of months ago: http://home.austin.rr.com/randj/pics/imgp1693.jpg It may be that the available light was against you though, I had very sunny blue skies that day. [EMAIL

RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness

2004-07-11 Thread El Gringo
Any ideas on how much a sensor swap costs outside of the warranty period? -el gringo -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness - Original Message - From:

PAW: Temptation of Eve, the three shot series

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've uploaded two more shots in the Temptation of Eve series. The first one listed below is meant to be the first shot in the serie. The previously listed shot is second, and the last listed is meant to be the condlusion. I believe thee are all in good taste, but the two new pictures do

RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness

2004-07-11 Thread David Miers
Ouch, I'll bet you don't really wanna know! -Original Message- From: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness Any ideas on how much a sensor swap costs outside of the warranty

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2004-07-11 Thread Brian Dipert
When I first got my istD I was very worried about the 3-5 hot pixels, some red, some purple, one blue, that tended to turn up in longish exposures. And the red pixel that showed up in 80% of my exposures at the same position. Well, after about a month, I completely got over the hot-pixel

RE: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
i disagree with simon here - i *really* prefer the second one! it has very cool composition and i love the movement in her foot - the way that the backlight shows the shape of her leg is very sensual too. these are really cool shots frank, probably my favourite that i have ever seen of yours

Re: Sex With Filing Cabinet

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Frank. I find these very interesting. They support the concept without being full image snapshot cliches (which might have been the instinctive thing to do for most shooters). Good eye. Nice images. Paul

RE: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View

2004-07-11 Thread Jens Bladt
I see your point. I do believe, that the SLR market is very limited. Not to mention the DSLR market. Very few people, I know (photo club members exempted - and that may be about 0,05 % of the intire population), would want a DSLR. It's just too bulky. Most people want a camera to sit in the