Re: OT: aquariums

2006-03-01 Thread Gautam Sarup
Hi Lon, Thanks. I'm now planning to take 3 lenses: 28/2.8, 50/1.4 and an 80-320 zoom. Will meter once in there and try to shoot two rolls in there at different ASAs and see what happens. Cheers, Gautam On 3/1/06, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it's worth, I shot at the Ne

RE: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Larger sensors are not more quiet if all else stays equal. The individual pixel size needs to get bigger to get lower noise. Of course newer generation sensors (which also happen to be bigger in overall size) are generally lower noise than the older sensors. But I guess this is what you meant, rig

"Ramsey"

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. Thought I sent this on twice before but didn't see it on the list, where other notes I sent later have shown up. - I am installing an exhibition of my photographs at the Zocalo Coffeehouse in San Leandro, California this weekend. It will be available for viewing there from Monday,

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Then you really don't understand the benefit of a rangefinder when it comes to composing and choosing the "decisive moment" for snapping the shutter. Yeah I guess you're right The first cameras I ever used were range finders - try on a Zeiss Ikon Contina & a Voightlander something or other b

Re: about BuyDig and BeachCamera.com

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: [...] Buydig.com. [...] iBuyDigital.com [...] eWiz.com [...] Personally, I like newegg.com for computer stuff. Photographic stuff is almost exclusively KEH, B&H, or Adorama. I stopped using NewEgg.com because thei

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
I wonder whether the people who consider the rangefinder more "natural" started on rangefinders before moving to SLRs? I started on rangefinders during the Ice Age, but definitely consider the SLR to be more "natural". Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" <[EMAIL

Re: about BuyDig and BeachCamera.com

2006-03-01 Thread Doug Franklin
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: [...] Buydig.com. [...] iBuyDigital.com [...] eWiz.com [...] Personally, I like newegg.com for computer stuff. Photographic stuff is almost exclusively KEH, B&H, or Adorama. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread David Mann
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: When is The Brotherhood getting their 67D, anyways? Don't want one. I paid too much for my 6x7 film scanner for it to become obsolete ;) - Dave http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/ http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: I understand Shel's rage on DS2, I can't find an Optio60. Any comments on the OptioSV? -- about BuyDig and BeachCamera.com

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I bought one of my DS bodies from Buydig.com. They were good. There are actually quite a number of good etail vendors out there. iBuyDigital.com did a great job, eWiz.com did an excellent job (for computer equipment like hard drives and such), etc etc. http://www.resellerratings.com is a go

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Adam Maas
Aaron Reynolds wrote: I would be overjoyed if there was a new Pentax DSLR that basically had the same control set as the MZ-5n. I'd suggest making it black and chrome and calling it the Spotmatic D. (Myself, I'd rather have an all-black version. Maybe shiny black with white letters, like t

Re: istD grip strip like Z1(p)

2006-03-01 Thread Adam Maas
Toine wrote: Hello, Has anyone successfully mounted a third party grip strap on a istD with BG1 grip connected? Something similar like the FDP grip strap for the Z1(p). Toine Not doable, interferes with the green button, which is far too close to the strap loop. Also interferes with the CF

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Adam Maas
Jens, The 24x36 sensors are far more demanding on lenses, because they require superb edge performance on 35mm lenses, while the subframe sensors can live happily in the sharp centre of the lens's image. Note who's complaining the most about poor lens performance, it's not the APS-C shooters,

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
Shitty syntax. A quarter bottle of Scotch will cause that. Please read instead: Pocket digicams make a full frame print roughly 4x5.3 inches. At my place of employment I call this a Digital Camera Print. The first thing my customers encounter on my self serve unit is a print option of this siz

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" Subject: Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists HOLY CRAP, I NEED TO PLAN A TENTH BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR MY P67! I'm inviting everyone in The Brotherhood. My 6x7 turns 20 next year. We could meet for a beer in Wawa William Robb

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation "Full frame" is a misnomer. What people really mean is 35mm format or 24x36mm sensor dimensions. Thats my take on it too. less overall loss when cropping to classic proportions (11

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation Sure, bazillions of people love 4x6s. 4x5s can be made on the same machines with very little change. Pocket digicams make a full frame print roughly 4x5.3 inches, called a Digital Cam

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Gonz" Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation John Forbes wrote: Yes, but Rob has been in the market since 1988, and in Australia, and before the internet, and perhaps buying new. Not many Pentax lenses are worth more than they were new. Alt

Brotherhood rollcall. Was: nothing important. Some talk about girlyboy sized cameras.

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
p.s. come on, you knew "he" would be back one day. Greetings, Brother Aaron. Brother William.

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: RE: Some more new camera speculation I'll agree with you. :-) I would have far preferred a 67D to a 645D. Whether I could afford it would be a different issue. I love the picture through the viewfinder on the 67. Tom, come to BC in Sep

Sigma DG vs. non-DG

2006-03-01 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thanks to all people who responded about Cametaauctions. Speaking of Sigma lenses, I see that many of their models are being replaced with the DG version. In any case, - how significant is the difference between DG and pre-DG versions? Would one see it only in the "sun-in-the-face" type of situ

Re: PESO - Softy

2006-03-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! This is a test shot with my newly re-aquired 85 soft lens. I was a bit surprised that my wife liked this one, as she normally doesn't care much for soft pictures. Taken of my son in the front room with just some incandescent lighting on. Pentax *istD, F 85/2.8 Soft, Handheld ISO 800, 1/30

Re: I understand Shel's rage on DS2, I can't find an Optio60. Any comments on the OptioSV? -- about BuyDig and BeachCamera.com

2006-03-01 Thread Igor Roshchin
I also purchased my DS from Buydig, and when it turned out to be defective they replaced it quickly and without much hassle. So, I would likely to buy from them again if they'd again have the item I need and at a good price. [digression on] Now, I'd like to share some discoveries based on Shel

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 2, 2006, at 12:49 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hmm, I sold my P67 system and purchased a Mamiya 7 kit for it's weight, portability and image quality back around 2000. For a second I thought you were talking about an RB or RZ or something and was gonna shout "THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS, ROB!"

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Mar 2006 at 20:26, Jack Davis wrote: > Rod, > How would you compare the resolution of the Pentax 67 and istD? With > Velvia 100F, for example? > I expect some such answer as; "there is no comparison". I recently sold > a Mamiya 6 outfit largely due to problematic focusing (especially with >

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
The interesting thing for me was the lack of Pentax lenses at most of the places I stopped in while in NYC. Olden had a couple of M42 lenses and I think one k-mount. I am interested in seeing if what they have in their cases is all they have... I will check out Olden in better detail the nex

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's been many years since the Olden Camera I knew existed. It was a wonderful place to go and chew the fat with the old crackers who knew and loved photography. Hmm. I was 15-16 years old then. Now I'm old enough to be the old cracker. ;-) Godfrey On Mar 1, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Paul Stenq

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:26 PM, Jack Davis wrote: How would you compare the resolution of the Pentax 67 and istD? With Velvia 100F, for example? I'm not Rob, but compared to the *istDS2 there's really not much of a comparison. From a Polaroid Sprintscan 120, I get a 48 bit file that's over 10

Re: Any experience with cameta.com/cametaauctions?

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I bought the Konica Minolta ACW-100 wide lens converter from them. They did fine. Godfrey On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All! Has anybody had any experience with e-bay seller cametaauctions (aka cameta.com)? Photo.net shows bad responses from the older years, somewhat

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Jack Davis
Rod, How would you compare the resolution of the Pentax 67 and istD? With Velvia 100F, for example? I expect some such answer as; "there is no comparison". I recently sold a Mamiya 6 outfit largely due to problematic focusing (especially with the 150mm lens) and rangefinder inconveniences. When I

Re: colour photography revisted

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Pancho Hasselbach wrote: Hi folks, I know about the running-eekbay-auctions thing, nevertheless I wanted to share this one with you: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7595673156 Pancho Cesa

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I used to love looking through the used equipment at Olden. I bought a Mamiya TLR 250mm lens there and a Polaroid back for my Speed Graphic. Great store. Paul On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:10 PM, Cesar wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Cesar wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/misc.msnw? act

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Vic, I am going to keep this post. I will try to address this again after shooting the IIIf for a while. I still have a b/w roll in an LX I have to finish, César Panama City, Florida Vic Mortelmans wrote: Hard to pin down. It's more like a feeling. Rangefinders are more elementary. In pri

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
frank theriault wrote: On 3/1/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can't be Frank. Frank has a hard time being Frank and extra competition and pressure will not help him at all. Huh? Wha? -frank, going back to sleep... -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-

Re: A peek at my time up north.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Kenneth, Thanks for at least commenting. We often put our emotion into looking at a photo. I appreciate your technical comments. I knew that most people would not have an connection with the subject matter... I must admit to wanting to check this place out - if I had not been with my siste

Re: colour photography revisted

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Doug Brewer wrote: Pancho Hasselbach wrote: Hi folks, I know about the running-eekbay-auctions thing, nevertheless I wanted to share this one with you: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7595673156 Pancho Cesar must be raising cash to pay for the Leica. Except for the f

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Doug, Wait a minute - I did not think to ask about the write speed. FPS? Not even a consideration - but I should have asked anyway.. I will not know about picture taking possibility until I get the prints - how archaic! What's it to ya? Tu madre. The line above is a GFMtn exclusive, Cé

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Cesar wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/misc.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=42 This is a 1950 Leica IIIf with a 1950 Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Summitar f=5cm 1:2. 1950 ... a black dial IIIf. Very sweet old camera. Enjoy it! I bought a pair of these cameras, a

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Tom C wrote: From: Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I asked some list members for inputs since I was thinking about rangefinders. Though, to be frank, I was interested in a Leica. I had heard so much about them. You can't be Frank. Frank has a hard time be

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/28/06, Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/misc.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=42 for a look at what I ended up with. This is a 1950 Leica IIIf with a 1950 Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Summitar f=5cm 1:2. I eagerly await the pictures of

Re: Helemt Cam Mounting Ideas?

2006-03-01 Thread cbwaters
Is there some reason duct tape isn't your adhesion method of choice? I can't see any reason it isn't the best tool Did anybody else see the on-skier shots of the freestyle moguls during the Olympics (NBC)? THAT guy looked like a dork... CW - Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[

Re: Any experience with cameta.com/cametaauctions?

2006-03-01 Thread Perry Pellechia
Igor, A few years ago I bought an Oly E20n form them through an ebay auction. The sale went fine. It was a brand new US model. Their ebay ratings still look good and I would not hesitate to buy from them. The Sigma 100-300 that they are listing is the recently discontinued model (not the digita

Re: Any experience with cameta.com/cametaauctions?

2006-03-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Igor, I bought a Sigma 1.4 EX converter from them on ebay. The transaction was very smooth and went without a hitch. I would buy from them again. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 7:49:19 PM, you wrote: IR> Hi All! IR> Has anybody had any experience with e-bay seller

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I started with an SLR before trying the Leica. I hated the Leica at first. Put it in the drawer and didn't use it for six or eight months. Finally, something someone said about allowing some time with the camera caught my attention, and I started using the camera again. After understanding it, a

Re: A peek at my time up north.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Bob, I thought the same thing about too much wine left in the glasses. I was with my sister so I could not stand there and watch what developed. I had asked her to stand around while I selected my Leica IIIf, would I be pressing my luck to have her stand around in subfreezing temperatures w

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Vic, I was not aware of that forum, thanks. How can I fit time in for that forum when I don't have enough time for this list? César Panama City, Florida Vic Mortelmans wrote: By the way, I guess you already know the rangefinderforum, to avoid the 'OT'? http://www.rangefinderforum.com/ G

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
> [Original Message] > From: Kenneth Waller > >you can see outside the taking frame, > but it's what in the frame that I'm interested in Then you really don't understand the benefit of a rangefinder when it comes to composing and choosing the "decisive moment" for snapping the shutter. > >the

Any experience with cameta.com/cametaauctions?

2006-03-01 Thread Igor Roshchin
Hi All! Has anybody had any experience with e-bay seller cametaauctions (aka cameta.com)? Photo.net shows bad responses from the older years, somewhat improved responses from the recent years. Resellerratings.com has polar responses: many good ones, but also quite a few negative ones. Besides ev

Re: A peek at my time up north.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Christian wrote: Cesar wrote: This shot was taken on a Saturday evening. I used an *istD, FA Limited 31mm f1.8, handheld, 1/15 second, f 1.5, ISO 400, spot metering, shade white balance... http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/misc.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=41 a quick greyscale conv

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yeeha! Add a Tri-X mode and it would be perfect. And let's not overlook compatibility with manual focus lenses. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Juan Buhler > A digital version of the ZX-M. That would be so great, and a really > distinct product. It would actually be typical of Pentax to pr

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Cesar
Paul, I must admit that I stayed away from the M-mount Leicas because of cost. But then again I truly enjoy shooting my screwmount cameras. This is not to say that I may not end up with an M-mount Leica in the future... To back the comment about beautiful cameras, I have had a couple of s

Re: I understand Shel's rage on DS2, I can't find an Optio60. Any comments on the OptioSV?

2006-03-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, I'd recommend buydig without hesitation. Also Beach camera. I understand they are two arms of the same organization. Beach is even rated a little higher than buydig at resellerratings.com. Both have been less expensive than B&H on the items I checked, and they usually offer free shipping.

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Aaron, Rob pointed out www.autostitch.net and I tried it. It was a great way to bring several pictures together into a big image. I did one with 3,000x5,000 pixels with minor effort. Results are a big print now. Regards, Bob S. On 3/1/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 20

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:07 PM, E.R.N. Reed wrote: I wonder whether the people who consider the rangefinder more "natural" started on rangefinders before moving to SLRs? Interesting thought. I started with a Rolleiflex TLR ... perhaps that's why the Sony DSC-R1's top-mounted LCD feels so natur

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:45 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: Yep. Of course, square (28mm x 28mm?) would be even less waste; you could then crop to 4:3 or 3:2 or stick with square. No real disadvantage, except being a larger sensor that means lower yield and higher cost... but then, we're already ta

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I'm still running 67 (Mamiya 7II) and an LS-8000 so I know where you are coming from but having to deal with film give me the heebie jeebies, it costs a fortune for me to buy film and good processing and I so hate scanning. I don't hate scann

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Kenneth Waller wrote: Not to be argumentative - They definitely have a different feel to an SLR, Agreed you can see outside the taking frame, but it's what in the frame that I'm interested in there is no blanking of the finder as the shot is made I don't see how this is a concern, on

Re: colour photography revisted

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owww, my eyes, my eyes. I like skinned cameras but the teletubby blue is painful. "Pimp my camera" indeed. Though I am tempted to bid by the horribleness of it. -Aaron

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Aaron Reynolds wrote: I would be overjoyed if there was a new Pentax DSLR that basically had the same control set as the MZ-5n. Ditto I'd suggest making it black and chrome and calling it the Spotmatic D. err ... (Myself, I'd rather have an all-black version. Ditto Maybe shiny bla

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Mar 2006 at 13:18, Peter Loveday wrote: > Out of interest, what are you using to stitch them? Hugin http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Penta

Re: colour photography revisted

2006-03-01 Thread derbyc
Quoting Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pancho Hasselbach wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I know about the running-eekbay-auctions thing, nevertheless I wanted to > > share this one with you: > > http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7595673156 > > > > Pancho > > > > > Cesar must

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Peter Loveday
I've recently been shooting pano sequences using my *istD both on and off tripod and even off tripod a pretty sloppy quickly shot sequence of images can be flawlessly strung together to produce quite a large file size. Granted it's not a one frame capture but it's serving me for 2/3 of the types

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Peter Loveday
I really wish someone would do the 21x28mm format I proposed with the sensor technology available now. I think it would be a very good balance in cost and quality. The FoV numbers are pretty nice too, with given lenses. Generally less waste of available lens coverage too. Yep. Of course, squa

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Mat Maessen
Nah, a Spotmatic D would have to be screwmount. :-) Call it the D1000? -Mat (I'd buy one, either way) On 3/1/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would be overjoyed if there was a new Pentax DSLR that basically had > the same control set as the MZ-5n. > > I'd suggest making it black

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Mar 2006 at 21:01, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Isn't that what they're doing now with these oddball pancake lenses and > such? Trying to sell on design concept rather than numbers? I think it's more that they are selling small and cute at the moment to my mind and listening to user comments o

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:14 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: there is no blanking of the finder as the shot is made I don't see how this is a concern, once you've pushed the release, you've decided that's what you want At least you know what happened just after you released the shutter, expressions can

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Mar 2006 at 20:57, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Not to be argumentative - > > > They definitely have a different feel to an SLR, > Agreed > > >you can see outside the taking frame, > but it's what in the frame that I'm interested in For street shooters or anyone working close in knowing what's

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 1, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Retro design concepts may provide new sales opportunities after the pixel and function wars are over :-) Isn't that what they're doing now with these oddball pancake lenses and such? Trying to sell on design concept rather than numbers? I'l

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Not to be argumentative - They definitely have a different feel to an SLR, Agreed you can see outside the taking frame, but it's what in the frame that I'm interested in there is no blanking of the finder as the shot is made I don't see how this is a concern, once you've pushed the release

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Juan Buhler
On 3/1/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manual focus, manual exposure, center-weighted meter > (though match-needle is too expensive these days). > Might sell to the student crowds who kept snapping up > the K1000. A digital version of the ZX-M. That would be so great, and a really dist

Re: PESO - Softy

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Womer
Bruce, I agree with Paul. The softness seems a bit overdone here. Nice composition, though, and a very appealing offspring. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I like the pose, the light and the framing. i think > it may be a bit too soft, at least for my taste. One > stop less aperture would

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Scott Loveless
Sounds good to me. Cripple the mount and you've got a winner. On 3/1/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manual focus, manual exposure, center-weighted meter > (though match-needle is too expensive these days). > Might sell to the student crowds who kept snapping up > the K1000. > > One c

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Mar 2006 at 20:35, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > I would be overjoyed if there was a new Pentax DSLR that basically had > the same control set as the MZ-5n. > > I'd suggest making it black and chrome and calling it the Spotmatic D. > (Myself, I'd rather have an all-black version. Maybe shiny b

Re: speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Womer
Manual focus, manual exposure, center-weighted meter (though match-needle is too expensive these days). Might sell to the student crowds who kept snapping up the K1000. One could even get rid of the batteries, and hook the film-advance lever to a small generator to charge a small non-replaceable

Re: PESO - Softy

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Womer
Compositionally an improvement, but it exaggerates the already-excessive soft lens effect. Rick --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Per Kenneth Waller's crop suggestion, here is the > revised image: > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2978a.htm > > > Original: > > http://www.day

Re: PESO - Softy

2006-03-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Bruce, I was suggesting a total elimination of the chair. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bruce Dayton" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Softy Per Kenneth Waller's crop suggestion, here is the revised imag

Re: Why is 35mm film sometimes called 135?

2006-03-01 Thread graywolf
Many folks suppose that WWII thing, Bill, but the information I have seen on it says differently. That 600 series film size was introduced long before the war and had the wood core from the start. I imagine it was a economic issue, prior to WWII wood was so cheap that most shipping containers w

speaking of digital camera wish-lists

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I would be overjoyed if there was a new Pentax DSLR that basically had the same control set as the MZ-5n. I'd suggest making it black and chrome and calling it the Spotmatic D. (Myself, I'd rather have an all-black version. Maybe shiny black with white letters, like the black Spotties.) I

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
graywolf wrote: No they do not. But I think that decision was based upon the company they sourced the sensor from going out of business, although Kodak said they were getting out of the professional digital camera business at the time. Remember Kodak is in a frenzy of self mutilation cutting

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread graywolf
It is called speculating in a vacuum. It is a popular past time and does no pyscical harm, althought I understand it can make one an emotional wreck it one does too much of it . graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread graywolf
I agree with that 4:3 format. My Oly has it. It translates to a 10 x 7.5 inch print which gives a 1/2 inch border all around on 11 x 8.5 paper. That fits a standard 9.5 x 7.5 inch matte cutout nicely so I can just buy prematted frames. Also it uses the whole image making my 5mp camera equal to

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread David Savage
I don't. Dave On 3/2/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2006, at 4:16 PM, John Forbes wrote: > > > A short, high-pitched, sound is not a whine. But it is when it > > goes on and on and on and... > > I think that should be in the 2006 PDML Quotes list too. ;-) > > G

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread graywolf
No they do not. But I think that decision was based upon the company they sourced the sensor from going out of business, although Kodak said they were getting out of the professional digital camera business at the time. Remember Kodak is in a frenzy of self mutilation cutting off parts of itse

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 4:16 PM, John Forbes wrote: A short, high-pitched, sound is not a whine. But it is when it goes on and on and on and... I think that should be in the 2006 PDML Quotes list too. ;-) Godfrey

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I really wish someone would do the 21x28mm format I proposed with the sensor technology available now. I think it would be a very good balance in cost and quality. The FoV numbers are pretty nice too, with given lenses. Generally less waste of a

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:18:51 -, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess in the end, I am reacting to the categorization of a negative opinion as whining. Just because it's an opinion that's at odds with anothers does not make it a whine... A short, high-pitched, sound is not a whin

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Mar 2006 at 15:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I really wish someone would do the 21x28mm format I proposed with the > sensor technology available now. I think it would be a very good > balance in cost and quality. The FoV numbers are pretty nice too, > with given lenses. Generally less

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Bob Shell wrote: Larger sensors are quieter, yes. There is a balance between noise, resolution density, sensitivity, power consumption, cost, etc etc etc, when designing a sensor. With the freedom to design a sensor to meet any specific need at will, why stick t

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brother Aaron, Sitting here looking at my 67II on the fireplace mantle... The *istDS is in view, but it is such a sissy camera. And I think you 'hit the nail on the head' about the 645D - Woman's camera! Next thing we know, it will come in those silly Hassy designer colors. Give me a full frame 67

Re: I understand Shel's rage on DS2, I can't find an Optio60. Any comments on the OptioSV?

2006-03-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Lon, Try www.buydig.com - Optio60 for $185. They also have an S6 and Optio50. Shel and I got our *ist DS's there. I also bought an Optio SV there. Service was fast and cheap, no hassels. I bought my daughter an S4 there, then upgraded her to an SV. Of course I had to keep the old S4 for myself, it

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:01 AM, William Robb wrote: Nop, but appr. 5mm more in each direction! That ought to count for something - 60% more, actually. It doesn't count as full frame, which I believe is what you were implying in a previous post. I could be wrong about your intent though. "Fu

Re: OT: Photographic enablement but not Pentax.

2006-03-01 Thread frank theriault
On 3/1/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You can't be Frank. Frank has a hard time being Frank and extra competition > and pressure will not help him at all. Huh? Wha? -frank, going back to sleep... -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)

2006-03-01 Thread Chris Brogden
Hi, Shel. I don't check the PDML very often these days since I had tosell my LX and 67II, but I popped in today and read about your retailadventures. Are you looking for a DS2? Which questions do you have? We have themin stock at Don's Photo in Winnipeg. While Canadian prices can't goas low a

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Bob Shell
On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I think Pentax made the right choice. It would probably have harmed them in the long term if they had come out with a very expensive DSLR that produced mediocre images. What a pity, a sad tale indeed regardless of the catalysts that precipita

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are you talking about? A normal negative measures 55mm by 70mm! This > 24mm by 36mm stuff goes in toy cameras. > > When is The Brotherhood getting their 67D, anyways? I'm tired of these > eensie weensie thingamab

RE: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Tom C
I'll agree with you. :-) I would have far preferred a 67D to a 645D. Whether I could afford it would be a different issue. I love the picture through the viewfinder on the 67. Tom C. From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.ne

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Tom C
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What a pity, a sad tale indeed regardless of the catalysts that precipitated its demise. Yes, I think Pentax obviously made the right decision to not deliver the MZ-D, when the facts were known. They obviously made the wrong decision originally to

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Larger sensors should be quieter, all else being equal. Rarely is all else equal. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Shell > Larger sensors should be quieter, yes, but excessive noise was the > most serious problem with the Philips full frame chip.

RE: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
What are you talking about? A normal negative measures 55mm by 70mm! This 24mm by 36mm stuff goes in toy cameras. When is The Brotherhood getting their 67D, anyways? I'm tired of these eensie weensie thingamabobs. I have a DS2 and I damn near swallowed it the other day because I mistook it

Re: [Bulk] Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread K.Takeshita
On 3/01/06 5:26 PM, "Rob Studdert", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1 Mar 2006 at 10:24, K.Takeshita wrote: > >> Adding to this, Kyocra actually approached Pentax for help when they >> (Kyocera) had been plagued by the noise problem (even at ISO100), as Pentax >> had solved it at the time. But P

Re: Some more new camera speculation

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Mar 2006 at 17:01, John Francis wrote: > You think Pentax "screwed up". I think they took a risk, gambled > on Philips being able to deliver the chip, and lost. In hindsight > it looks like a bad decision, but presumably somebody thought the > potential gain was worth taking the risk - afte

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