RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Tom C
You think Pentax is going to care that a handful of people on this list want something? I don't. Tom C. Original Message Follows From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K1D aperature

Re: Printing--AAARGH!

2006-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know how good the Huey is. I wasn't particularly impressed when my friend Paul used it to do calibration on his systems last week. Very few useful options. I use the Gretag-Macbeth Eye One Display 2 which allows me to set up exactly the screen calibration I want (5500K white point,

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2006 12:02:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your two sensative, take thinks to personilly, have know cents of humour on lion - altho ewe are very funny. PS You spelt altogether wrong in the secont lion of you massage. ;-)) Shel == Shel, now

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Your two sensative, take thinks to personilly, have know cents of humour on lion - altho ewe are very funny. PS You spelt altogether wrong in the secont lion of you massage. ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell None to the reader but to imply I don't know how to basic

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey No I do get it. You fail to understand the signifigance that LENSES not bodies last forever practically and long term Support of the lenses is of utmost importance. Umm, tell that to the Canon FD lens

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey 1. you are assumeing that these DSLRs will never need service No, you are assuming that I am assuming that. 2. can be more reliable means just that. A pair of pliers has moving parts, when was the last time you

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: The JCO survey - The most disconcerting thing is quiet resignation of most folks on the PDML. Even though I'd love to see it, it's not happening, and that's just the way it's gonna be. I know you didn't write this Mike.

Re: OT: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Epson 925 is getting a bit elderly. Still works fine but technology has passed it by. Heh, I know the feeling. Anyone have experience with the R1800? Or the R800? Do you like it? What do you like? What do you not like? My local

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
I've stayed out of the thread so far, as I haven't seen much point to yet another rehash of the same old thing. For your survey however, I will respond. I am a mild yes. I have 3 lenses that would be slightly more useful with the cam. Since I shoot mostly manual mode anyway, pushing the green

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: The JCO survey I have to say I basically agree with JCO on this one with respect to the minimal cost of inclusion and with Pentax's reasoning for not including it. Pentax probably lost more money designing and implementing the

Re: Flash brackets

2006-10-11 Thread Patrick Genovese
I see the point you're all making but don't you find that fiddling with the bracket every time you change orientation a bit tiresome ? The idea is to use the flash in contrast control mode with the rtf or a nother flash unit on the camera's hot shoe with the one on the bracket angled up for a

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: The JCO survey On 11/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They must figure none, or they would have figured out a way to leave the thing on the cameras. They simply got it wrong up front, the green button

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey With a cam sensor we are talking about Something far closer to a pair of pliers than A mechnical watch. I've never seen a pair of pliers that was designed to modulate an electrical signal, or that would fail

Re: hand held meters

2006-10-11 Thread graywolf
Please insert this r in the appropriate place. Apparently my smell checker thinks shirt without the r is an OK word. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- graywolf wrote: For general

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: The JCO survey These discussions with JCO have kept me from doing any real work. When I go off line to take care of business, I can't wait to get back to see what spelling errors JCO has made, what interesting turn the

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey AE LOCKED- is what I called it. Not just true AE with Lock as an additional option. And AE stands for what? William Robb

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Tom C
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: The JCO survey I have to say I basically agree with JCO on this one with respect to the minimal cost of inclusion and with Pentax's reasoning for not including it. Pentax probably lost more money designing and implementing the

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Gonz
No because you have springs, tiny parts, a variable resistor with its own tiny linkage and the pot brush arm that depends on friction but not too much that it would wipe out the resistive surface. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a cam sensor we are talking about Something far closer to a pair

Re: The Economics of Lenses (was Re: Stakeout)

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The Economics of Lenses (was Re: Stakeout) I think buying what you want is more Important than lowest price. Most people buy strictly on lowest price. It's what has made Wal-Mart into the most successful retailer in the world.

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread graywolf
If they don't they are marketing imbeciles. Oh, wait, this is Pentax we are talking about... Look at it this way there are about 600 regular list members, and sometimes as many as 1800 counting the floaters who come and go. Now if each of them has some influence on what 10 friends and

Re: Roll Film History

2006-10-11 Thread frank theriault
On 10/11/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip First sold by Eastman in 1881 for $25, the Kodak camera came loaded with a 100-exposure film that Houston would process and reload the camera for $10. Houston died a rich man in 1906. http://www.todayinsci.com/ Interesting, Tom. Thanks!

Re: OT: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
Marnie - I have the R800 and am very happy w/it. I seldom have the need to print anything larger than 8x10, so it fits my needs well I haven't branched out into papers other than the Epson series so I can't report how it works w/other vendors papers. Epson just updated the paper profiles

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey I read somewhere that there over 10 million K/M Lenses in the field. What makes you think that This will only sell 100 cameras? Secondly, I don't expect them to provide this in every model They sell, just the

Re: Printing--AAARGH!

2006-10-11 Thread David J Brooks
Rick, for what its worth. I gave up printing from EL3. I would only use EL 3 for nef and pef conversions, then reopen in PS6, that is until i stumbled upon PSCS. I could never get the colours to look anything close to the monitor, on the print outs. In my PS6 and CS they are as close as

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey Backwards, razors last forever and the blades wear out. With camera systems, the lenses essentially last forever and the Bodies wear out. It's just a marketing concept, but one that camera makers have been

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey Cant you read my posts? Canon did not simply bail on their base They completely abandoned their FD user base. I'm not debating that the FD mount wasn't compatable with the new available technology, BTW. What

645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Patrick Genovese
Has anyone seen this. http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Oct06/showpage.taf?page=BG69 It must be a mistake OTOH I really hope its true :-) Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: PESO - :-}

2006-10-11 Thread Bob W
You must work in a very peculiar office! That sort of thing is grist to the mill over here. -- Cheers, Bob http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=264755 Someone definitely wouldn't think this is funny in an office environment. This is not work safe unless you work at

Re: Flash brackets

2006-10-11 Thread graywolf
I sometime use my old Vivitar, or even one of the Normans, as a flash bracket mounted slave with my digicam (They both have very high sync voltages --hence the slave thing). Seems to work fine except when the camera thinks it is smarter than I (usually when there is a bright window in the

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread graywolf
Graywolf has not bought a new camera since 1981, so Pentax doesn't give a damn what he thinks. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Lon Williamson wrote: I'm going to wait another day or

Re: Roll Film History

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 10/11/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip First sold by Eastman in 1881 for $25, the Kodak camera came loaded with a 100-exposure film that Houston would process and reload the camera for $10. Houston died a rich man in 1906. http://www.todayinsci.com/

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone seen this. http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Oct06/showpage.taf?page=BG69 It must be a mistake OTOH I really hope its true :-) Regards Patrick Genovese If it comes in at that cost, I'll buy one. Definitely. Will even buy a bunch of Pentax

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread frank theriault
On 10/11/06, Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to wait another day or two to finalize this survey. I'm sorry it brought JCO back to argumentative life, but this is a chance for the list to show Pentax what we want. Check results below to see if I have your response recorded

Re: OT: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
I've compared prints from the R800 to my R320. They're indistinguishable (On Premium Luster paper with Epson ink). I'd not bother with either the R800 or 1800. Get a 220 or 320 for 8.5x11 and the R2400 for larger. -Adam Paul Sorenson wrote: Marnie - I have the R800 and am very happy w/it.

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: And yes, I can read your posts, but they don't make a whole lot of sense, as they tend to ignore things like facts. And grammar and punctuation. (poke, poke, poke) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K100D- anybody bought one?

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
gfen wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Doug Franklin wrote: They can go into newer Photoshop versions (CS1 and above?) that have Adobe Camera Raw installed. Oh. Err, free download? I have a copy of CS2 I've been evaluating on my Mac... Adobe Camera RAW 3.5 supports K100D RAW's

RE: YouTube - The Pentax K10D (shake reduction)

2006-10-11 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: 11 October 2006 14:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: YouTube - The Pentax K10D (shake reduction) On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:04:43 +0100, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread John Celio
Your two sensative, take thinks to personilly, have know cents of humour on lion - altho ewe are very funny. PS You spelt altogether wrong in the secont lion of you massage. ;-)) Dammit Shel, you almost made milk come out my nose! :D John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM:

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread John Celio
If they don't they are marketing imbeciles. Oh, wait, this is Pentax we are talking about... Look at it this way there are about 600 regular list members, and sometimes as many as 1800 counting the floaters who come and go. Now if each of them has some influence on what 10 friends and

RE: PESO: Howard Street

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't do much to it as i just wanted to what possibilities a little fiddling and tweaking could do - there's a fair amount of potential in the shot. Try working with a copy of the original file on a duplicate layer. Shel [Original Message] From: Jon Myers Thanks for the honest

RE: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Bob W
I have an R800. I use Qprint with it. It makes good prints and is easy to use. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Anyone have experience with the R1800? Or the R800? Do you like it? What do

RE: PESO - :-}

2006-10-11 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 11 October 2006 18:49 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - :-} Just another street photograph. Office friendly? Depends on someones sense of humor...

RE: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Tom C
I think I'll go buy all the used 645 glass. ;-) Tom C. Original Message Follows From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey Cant you read my posts? Canon did not simply bail on their base They completely abandoned their FD user base. I'm not debating that the FD mount wasn't compatable with the new

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: But now we've got that interview (first posted here by Ken) where the same executive who first hinted about the K10D is suggesting that Pentax intend to release a higher-specification K-mount body. Sake! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: Flash brackets

2006-10-11 Thread John Celio
I see the point you're all making but don't you find that fiddling with the bracket every time you change orientation a bit tiresome ? Actually, not at all. When I rotate the camera to vertical shooting, I just flip the flash at the same time. It's one fluid movement. If I had a video

Re: PESO - :-}

2006-10-11 Thread frank theriault
On 10/11/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another street photograph. Office friendly? Depends on someones sense of humor... http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=264755 I work in a very unfriendly office, so I guess it's of no import. Can't say the photo does much for

Re: The Economics of Lenses (was Re: Stakeout)

2006-10-11 Thread John Celio
I never said I wouldn't buy a Pentax DSLR without the K/M full support, its just it would add a LOT of value To the camera for me if it had it, much more than The minimal extra cost to implement it. For me it's the Annoyance factor, I hate to buy ANYTHING that I know Could be much better for

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread frank theriault
On 10/11/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'll go buy all the used 645 glass. ;-) Will the 645D have an aperture simulator? ;-) -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

JCO aka The Who?

2006-10-11 Thread Bill Owens
Is it possible that JCO used to sign in as The Who. Lots of similarities if not. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2006 1:30:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an R800. I use Qprint with it. It makes good prints and is easy to use. -- Cheers, Bob == Thanks. Thanks, everyone. I am looking at the 1280 too, simply because it's cheaper (than the 1800). I

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: to imply I don't know how to basic spell is Another matter altogher. Mark. Classic! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Out on purpose like in don't cant etc. Oi! You callin me a cant?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT: what I need to do street photography

2006-10-11 Thread frank theriault
On 10/10/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget about the K10D. Heck, forget even about a Leica M8. This is what I really need: http://red.com/ 12 Megapixels, 60 frames per second. 24x14mm sensor. Here is a frame from it:

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, graywolf wrote: Graywolf has not bought a new camera since 1981, so Pentax doesn't give a damn what he thinks. I don't buy this argument. People sell their old equipment to buy new. We are the real enablers. E.g. I would not touch the *ist-D with a bargepole. Kostas --

Re: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Fairweather
Hi Bob Prices have dropped since I bought my R800. Now I would buy an R1800 for the occasional A3+ size at the same great quality. In the UK the R2400 is a lot more expensive with no huge advantage, especially if you do mainly colour glossy prints. Black and white is another matter apparently

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote: And anyway, are you really going to tell your relatives, who probably don't care about this aperture simulator doohickey, to go buy a Nikon? When the -D and the -DL were the only DSLRs available in the UK I was as warmly positive about the offerings as

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: On 11/10/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Out on purpose like in don't cant etc. Oi! You callin me a cant?? Dude, don't attribute that shite to me. That was your buddy JCO. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:56:46 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As sometimes happens Mr. Forbes attacks the person not the topic. It's easier to have something to say that way. Whoops, I'm making the same error. Who gives a rip about speeeling errors?, we all make them. In addition

Re: Flash brackets

2006-10-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
I second that. I am on my third bracket. The first I had was a flip for 35mm. Worked reasonably well. Only thing I didn't like about it was that the camera felt upside down because I shoot left eyed and the flip wanted me to go the other way - but workable. Then I started shooting 67's and

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:34:27 +0100, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J. C. O'Connell wrote: No commas I am careful with, it's the apostrophe I leave Out on purpose like in don't cant etc. jco HAR! You forgot the comma after No! No, commas I am careful with, it's the apostrophe I

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Fairweather
The next Pentax K1d will be full frame so you are going to need adapters for your APS lenses more than aperture simulators. It might even bring a smile to the face of JCO with his full frame K lenses! Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Lon Williamson wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis responded, not sure of vote. You 've got me (correctly) on the yes. No: I read Godders to also be under this. First in line probably :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Autochage did that not me. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey J. C. O'Connell wrote: But if Pentax is going to go broke if they

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Do you know the differene between AE and AE locked? If you don't then shup up and go read some Pentax manuals. If you do then your just blowing smoke as ususal to argue. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday,

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The K/M lens sensor would not be redundent as there Is no function already in there doing that. It has Been removed along with its function just like I stated. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, October 11,

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Dude, don't attribute that shite to me. That was your buddy JCO. Apologies, I should have cropped the attribution line. What a cant I am. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:28:22PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey With a cam sensor we are talking about Something far closer to a pair of pliers than A mechnical watch. I've never seen a pair of pliers

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread John Celio
When the -D and the -DL were the only DSLRs available in the UK I was as warmly positive about the offerings as possible (which is mildly, though I offered free access to my numerous lenses), then told my mates to do their own research. Guess what, they bought Canon. Yeah, and they probably

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Never, I always stated it should be available In at Least the top models or one model for more money. JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The

RE: The Economics of Lenses (was Re: Stakeout)

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not to me it isnt. Satisfaction with a high quality product lasts Far longer than the short term pleasure of a cheaper price. My Philosophy has always been to buy WHAT I want at the cheapest Price possible, not just buy the cheapest price possible and Make a bad decision of getting something you

Re: The Economics of Lenses (was Re: Stakeout)

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL John, I have that JPEG on one of my web pages as well. I've only had to invoke it here once. Shel [Original Message] From: John Celio This one's for you: http://www.neovenator.com/special/stfu.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yes but what they did was IMPROVE their entire Mount, Penatax has done no such such thing Here. That's what I am talking about. Its all Loss with no gain. Canon EOS mount had a huge gain. There is no gain with new pentax cameras and lenses With regards to the mount. None. jco -Original

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2006 2:53:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John (PS: I only attack really irritating people who won't let go of a subject until they have repeated themselves fifty times at least.) Of course, I don't mean you, Tom. :-) == I don't think

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 04:00:41PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone seen this. http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Oct06/showpage.taf?page=BG69 It must be a mistake OTOH I really hope its true :-) Regards Patrick Genovese If it comes in at

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 09:52:46PM +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone seen this. http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Oct06/showpage.taf?page=BG69 It must be a mistake OTOH I really hope its true :-) Regards Patrick Genovese Would it have been *that* hard to quote the

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thank you John - that's been suggested here before but for some reason people like us to guess - as if it's some great mystery. What a crock - it's always nice to have some idea about what we'll find. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone seen

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Seems like a price like that on a high Megapixel camera would really turn some heads. Like you, I was quite surprised about the K10D. Perhaps Pentax is aware that a medium format digital that is priced as high as the Canon full frames just may not sell very well. This could get very interesting

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Gonz
You and me both. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'll go buy all the used 645 glass. ;-) Tom C. Original Message Follows From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: 645D

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 04:00:41PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone seen this. http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Oct06/showpage.taf?page=BG69 It must be a mistake OTOH I really hope its true :-) Regards Patrick Genovese If it comes in

Markus Bauernfeind/FAST TV Server AG is out of the office.

2006-10-11 Thread Markus . Bauernfeind
I will be out of the office starting 12.10.2006 and will not return until 13.10.2006. I will respond to your message when I return. In urgent cases please contact Ali Adelstein, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 11/10/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Dude, don't attribute that shite to me. That was your buddy JCO. Apologies, I should have cropped the attribution line. What a cant I am. As long as you aren't a Kant, I'm cool. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
The R2400 is the best printer for BW and matte finish papers. It's also markedly superior on Epson Premium Lustre Paper and Semigloss. The R1800 is really for glossy papers, and it's performance on any paper other than glossy can't matech the R2400. Paul On Oct 11, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Peter

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone seen this. http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Oct06/showpage.taf?page=BG69 It must be a mistake OTOH I really hope its true :-) That simply has to be a misprint. If it isn't I'm buying one -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Wanted to buy - Pentax 6x7

2006-10-11 Thread jkmess
Trying to buy on Ebay drives me nuts. I had a body lined up in the US. The auction had ended and the seller agreed to relist at a price I'd offered with buy it now. I watched and waited for several days for him to get around to it. He finally did it...in the middle of the night Australian

RE: Markus Bauernfeind/FAST TV Server AG is out of the office.

2006-10-11 Thread Tom C
OK. Thanks for the notice. Tom C. Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Markus Bauernfeind/FAST TV Server AG is out of the office. Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:03:33 +0200 I will be out of the

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Maas
It's redundant on all but K/M lenses. All other lenses (the vast majority of what would actually be used on a DSLR) don't need one. A and later lenses because they couple electronically and adapter-mounted lenses becuase they don't couple at all. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: The K/M lens

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's a real stretch. Nothing in Pentax marketing plans indicates any interest in full frame. Paul On Oct 11, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Peter Fairweather wrote: The next Pentax K1d will be full frame so you are going to need adapters for your APS lenses more than aperture simulators. It might even

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I saw this message yesterday. Is the list regurgitating or is JCO? On Oct 11, 2006, at 5:56 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Yes but what they did was IMPROVE their entire Mount, Penatax has done no such such thing Here. That's what I am talking about. Its all Loss with no gain. Canon EOS mount

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson wrote: On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, Pentax *does* monitor this list (and unfortunately for the aperture simulator die-hards, they evaluate the credibility of respondents by their tone as well as the semantic content of their messages) and I have

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 11/10/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Dude, don't attribute that shite to me. That was your buddy JCO. Apologies, I should have cropped the attribution line. What a cant I am. Is that because you prefer to use Immanuel-focus cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
But we were talking about K/M lenses so its not redundant. There are more K/M lenses than all other lenses combined So its not insignifigant. In other words, MOST Pentax Lenses are not fully supported ( but could be ). jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I have to reiterate things for people who don't understand The basic difference between the Pentax DSLR K/M abandonment And incompatibity in the name of progress caused by a new Lensmount design. Pentax doesn't have a new lensmount design With any progress. Its all regression. Jco -Original

Re: Wanted to buy - Pentax 6x7

2006-10-11 Thread David J Brooks
Good luck in your search, however i still love shooting my 6x7 so Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Trying to buy on Ebay drives me nuts. I had a body lined up in the US. The auction had ended and the seller agreed to relist at a price I'd offered with buy it now. I watched and

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/11/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lon Williamson wrote: On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, Pentax *does* monitor this list (and unfortunately for the aperture simulator die-hards, they evaluate the credibility of respondents by their tone as well as the

RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Don't believe what companies tell you. They lie to Hide motives. Secondly, I WILL PAY for the feature, They don't need to reduce the cost of the body, Especially if its going to remove key features I want. JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/10/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not me. I wasn't one of them who claimed that. You've got to learn to read John, I didn't suggest or infer that you did. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: The JCO survey Ironically, Canon was forced to introduce a new low-end FD body which lasted for a number of years (the T50, made by Cosina) after they tried to kill FD, they didn't succeed until 1991 or so. Minolta sold MD kit

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: How exactly does one go about contacting a Pentax engineer? Any time that I've sent Pentax an email message asking anything other than can I send it in to get it fixed, it results in a response similar to Please visit us online at pentaxslr.com or some crap like that. My

Re: Epson R800 or R1800

2006-10-11 Thread graywolf
The 1280 is old tech, nice in its day, I would go with the 1800 based upon the performance of my R200. NOTE: I have not used either, I just have found out from experience that Epson has made lots of improvement in function on their newer printers, even if they do look and feel cheaper. --

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