Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:38 +1000, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:52 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: He gets high Google stats because a lot of otherwise reputable sites, DPReview, Steve's Digicams, even Mike Johnston's Online

Re: workstation

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
these are $NZ dollars - times by 0.6 to get an idea of the US prices and everything electronic is expensive here - small market a long way from manufacturers - a 24 imac is about NZ $3200 and a 20 NZ$2500 - besides they are macs - I can only speak PC Alastair On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM,

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread AlunFoto
2009/8/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com: again Just pop your periscope, you're home. :) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
I hear people loughing at this phrase and its variations. In principal, there is nothing contradictory in the statement itself. It is clear to everybody who knows the basics of statistics (at the level of definition of average, which for a distribution is the same as an arithmetic mean). As a

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, are you guys saying that all the profound wisdom I have been pouring through these past years is...wrong? The most amazing thing about K.R. is the power with which the world is willing to ignore the totally obvious:

RE: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
2009/8/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com: again Just pop your periscope, you're home. :) Indeedy. My netbook was delivered yesterday, so just getting it set up. I'm very impressed with it (Toshiba NB200 10Z) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: workstation

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 05:53 , Mark Roberts wrote: I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. To save any iMac owners the trouble, you have a: Apple

Re: GESO - Alberta skies

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
I like the first shot, with the buildings, but the other two are fine on there own. I like to find old buildings to photography but i sometimes wish they would not board them up. Dave On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Tim Braytb...@textuality.com wrote: A couple of selections from a series I did

Re: PESO 2009 - 127 - GDG

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. I like the line work on this and the 3D effect. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgiramar...@mac.com wrote: On a blustery, damp day in Howth, a stone stair called to me ...  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/127-stone-stair comments always appreciated, thanks for

Re: PESO - 2469

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:48 PM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote: 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak).

Re: workstation

2009-08-08 Thread David Mann
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: If you are considering going the dual monitor route (I also use a large primary in landscape and a secondary in portrait) consider the absolute pixel size, if the two differ then items that span the two monitors will be displayed at different

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Keith Whaley
Igor Roshchin wrote: I hear people loughing at this phrase and its variations. In principal, there is nothing contradictory in the statement itself. It is clear to everybody who knows the basics of statistics (at the level of definition of average, which for a distribution is the same as an

Re: PESO - 2469

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Brian Walters wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:48 +0200, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket

Re: PESO - 2469

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Joseph McAllister wrote: I live between to particularly lofty peaks here in the state of Washington. On a good day (winter, day after a storm) I can see them both clearly. Mt. Rainier - 4392 meters, 14,411 feet, 105 km or 65 miles to my south linearly Mt. Baker - 3286 meters, 10,781

Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
If i get a charter and i'm not sure were i am going, i find my start and end points via google maps. I can find my way in between.:-) I usually look at the satellite images so i can see my buildings and intersections, but when i print out the map, all i get is the standard map view. When i was

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 6:04 PM Subject: ping again Bob, is there something going on by you that we need to know about? ;-) He's having pangs. It's the posh southern way of

Re: workstation

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Alastair Robertson wrote: so something like this? http://www1.ap.dell.com/nz/en/business/monitors/monitor_2408wfp/pd.aspx?refid=monitor_2408wfps=bsdcs=nzbsd1 pretty expensive especially if I am to get two How about this for the second monitor

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto wrote: 2009/8/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com: again Just pop your periscope, you're home. :) Make sure the curtains are closed, first. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: 2009/8/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com: again Just pop your periscope, you're home. :) Indeedy. My netbook was delivered yesterday, so just getting it set up. I'm very impressed with it (Toshiba NB200 10Z)

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:16 PM, mike wilson wrote: Toshiba recommends Windows Vista Ultimate yet not one of the netbooks uses it. What's these Windows everybody talks about these days? Something to look through, something to eat? I would like to know, if Windows 95 had failed, how OS/2

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Google maps in the urban parts of the USA include three (4?) views at top right - Streets, satellite, terrain, and sometimes a little guy you cam put on the street for a 360 degree pano picture of the spot. They don't have that for Canada? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:52 AM, David J

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
They are advertising new computers with Windows Vista here in USA, and a FREE upgrade to Windows 7 when it is released. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:16 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Toshiba recommends Windows Vista Ultimate  yet not one of the netbooks uses

Re: workstation

2009-08-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: workstation Alastair Robertson wrote: so something like this? http://www1.ap.dell.com/nz/en/business/monitors/monitor_2408wfp/pd.aspx?refid=monitor_2408wfps=bsdcs=nzbsd1 That one has the same (or pretty similar anyway) panel as

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis Well, just remember this observation: You know how dumb the average man-in-the-street is? Well, half of them are even dumber than that ... On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:08:57PM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: I know this sounds appalling, but I met a guy about a week ago who

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
Yes we have them here Bob, but when i try and print the satellite map, the regular map gets printed. Dave On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Google maps in the urban parts of the USA include three (4?) views at top right - Streets, satellite, terrain, and

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
His disclaimer is all well and good, but he asks for donations and uses paid links to support his family, (or so he says). That wasn't always there, I don't keep track of his pages so I don't know when he decided to try to deflect some hate mail. K. R. gives what looks like serious advice,

Re: workstation

2009-08-08 Thread Doug Franklin
David Mann wrote: At work I often find myself wishing for three or four monitors :/ Yep, I'm seriously considering a four monitor system with two landscape and two portrait monitors. I just don't want to spend the money. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Thomas Bohn wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:16 PM, mike wilson wrote: Toshiba recommends Windows Vista Ultimate yet not one of the netbooks uses it. What's these Windows everybody talks about these days? Something to look through, something to eat? I would like to know, if Windows 95

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes we have them here Bob, but when i try and print the satellite map, the regular map gets printed. Dave, take a screen grab (command+shift+3 on the mac) and print the resulting picture. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread steve harley
they whom i call David J Brooks wrote: Yes we have them here Bob, but when i try and print the satellite map, the regular map gets printed. printing satellite maps is not allowed; try Google Earth if you need that -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/09, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: printing satellite maps is not allowed This is the internet - anything's allowed ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms wrote: even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then. Mark! Describes my photography perfectly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:33 PM, mike wilson wrote: Windows 95 did fail, in more ways than can be counted. But Microsoft didn't care since it sold very well and OS/2 was gone. Well, IBM did also a lot of mistakes. Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Thomas Bohn On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:16 PM, mike wilson wrote: Toshiba recommends Windows Vista Ultimate yet not one of the netbooks uses it. What's these Windows everybody talks about these days? Something to look through, something to eat? I would like to know, if Windows 95

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan They are advertising new computers with Windows Vista here in USA, and a FREE upgrade to Windows 7 when it is released. :-) Regards, Bob S. And if you're willing to pay an extra $100, you can get WindozeXP. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:16 AM, mike

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Thomas Bohn On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:16 PM, mike wilson wrote: Toshiba recommends Windows Vista Ultimate  yet not one of the   netbooks uses it. What's these Windows everybody talks about these days? Something

RE: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
again Just pop your periscope, you're home. :) Make sure the curtains are closed, first. Where's the fun in that? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

RE: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
Toshiba recommends Windows Vista Ultimate yet not one of the netbooks uses it. What's these Windows everybody talks about these days? Something to look through, something to eat? I would like to know, if Windows 95 had failed, how OS/2 would look like today. Probably the

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling His disclaimer is all well and good, but he asks for donations and uses paid links to support his family, (or so he says). That wasn't always there, I don't keep track of his pages so I don't know when he decided to try to deflect some hate mail. He claims to have the

RE: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
If i get a charter and i'm not sure were i am going, i find my start and end points via google maps. I can find my way in between.:-) I usually look at the satellite images so i can see my buildings and intersections, but when i print out the map, all i get is the standard map view.

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 02:01:00PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: When it comes down to it, Vista had 3 problems at launch: 1. Poor hardware support at Launch (Windows 7 also ahs this, but not _quite_ as bad as Vista). This is totally not MS's fault as Vista beta's were available via MSDN long

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 03:38:52AM -0700, Keith Whaley wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: I hear people loughing at this phrase and its variations. In principal, there is nothing contradictory in the statement itself. It is clear to everybody who knows the basics of statistics (at the level of

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 02:01:00PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: When it comes down to it, Vista had 3 problems at launch: 1. Poor hardware support at Launch (Windows 7 also ahs this, but not _quite_ as bad as Vista). This is

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 02:25:04PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 02:01:00PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: When it comes down to it, Vista had 3 problems at launch: 1. Poor hardware support at Launch (Windows

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, Like Cotty says, try a 'screen print' (button on the upper right of my keyboard. You can paste the image into powerpoint if necessary. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/8/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes we have them

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Like Cotty says, try a 'screen print' (button on the upper right of my keyboard. You can paste the image into powerpoint if necessary. Regards,  Bob S. Thaks Cotty and Bob S. I'll try that. Dave On Sat, Aug 8,

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: If i get a charter and i'm not sure were i am going, i find my start and end points via google maps. I can find my way in between.:-) I usually look at the satellite images so i can see my buildings and intersections, but when

OT - About average and distributions (Was: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy)

2009-08-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sat Aug 8 13:24:08 CDT 2009 John Francis wrote: On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 03:38:52AM -0700, Keith Whaley wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: I hear people loughing at this phrase and its variations. In principal, there is nothing contradictory in the statement itself. It is clear to everybody who

Re: OT - About average and distributions (Was: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy)

2009-08-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sat Aug 8 15:35:12 CDT 2009 Igor Roshchin wrote: 1. Pareto (or Bradford) distributions, aka 80-20 rule (20% of the population controls 80% of the wealth) PS. 20% of PDMLers produce 80% of postings or 20% of PDMLers produce 80% of noise or even: 80% of noise on PDML is produced by 20% of

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
For people who purport to think that KR has the brains of a ball of earwax, you sure spend a lot of time discussing him. -- Godfrey http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

OT - Helicopter and Plane in Hudson River

2009-08-08 Thread Cotty
Just wanted to say that my heart goes out to the relatives of the air disaster in NY today. We flew with Liberty Tours at West 30th last year and the whole operation was extremely professionally run, with friendly and competent staff - and they have lost one of their own also. Apparently the

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: For people who purport to think that KR has the brains of a ball of earwax, you sure spend a lot of time discussing him. I rather like Ken Rockwell. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:07 +0100, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/8/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: For people who purport to think that KR has the brains of a ball of earwax, you sure spend a lot of time discussing him. I rather like Ken Rockwell. And that has to be

Re: OT - Helicopter and Plane in Hudson River

2009-08-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sad news indeed. It's surprising, somebody captured this accident: http://www.repubblica.it/2006/05/gallerie/esteri/incidente-hudson/1.html (2006/05 looks strange, but it seems to be linked from the central page: http://www.repubblica.it/ ) Igor Sat Aug 8 16:06:45 CDT 2009 Cotty wrote: Just

Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Having looked comprehensively and taken recommendations from locals, this seems to be the best company to deal with and, to me, the best location. Alnmouth is on the main east coast train route and close to the A1. Well stocked with shops and pubs. A good base for further exploration of the

Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Having looked comprehensively and taken recommendations from locals, this seems to be the best company to deal with and, to me, the best location. Alnmouth is on the main east coast train route and close to the A1. Well stocked with shops and

RE: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
Having looked comprehensively and taken recommendations from locals, this seems to be the best company to deal with and, to me, the best location. Alnmouth is on the main east coast train route and close to the A1. Well stocked with shops and pubs. A good base for further

OT: Can't keep a good song down

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
Rootling around on Youtube I found these, which I thought might interest some of the old silverbacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GBv=RuuOAA9ekbg Half a century later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nq_-DHhVOgfeature=related I've never heard of this before:

Shoot till you drop

2009-08-08 Thread paul stenquist
Shot ten hours at the Mopar Nationals in Columbus, OH yesterday and about eight hours today. I think I've shot 14 cars in depth and lots of show pics and race track pics. About 1500 frames so far. Many of them laying on the ground to get a low angle. My back will never be the same. I've

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:52 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: If i get a charter and i'm not sure were i am going, i find my start and end points via google maps. I can find my way in between.:-) I usually look at the satellite images so i can see my buildings and intersections,

Re: PESO - 2469

2009-08-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 8, 2009, at 03:50 , mike wilson wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: I live between to particularly lofty peaks here in the state of Washington. On a good day (winter, day after a storm) I can see them both clearly. Mt. Rainier - 4392 meters, 14,411 feet, 105 km or 65 miles to my

Re: OT - About average and distributions (Was: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy)

2009-08-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 8, 2009, at 13:38 , Igor Roshchin wrote: PS. 20% of PDMLers produce 80% of postings or 20% of PDMLers produce 80% of noise or even: 80% of noise on PDML is produced by 20% of PDMLers. MARK! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 8, 2009, at 14:07 , Cotty wrote: On 8/8/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: For people who purport to think that KR has the brains of a ball of earwax, you sure spend a lot of time discussing him. I rather like Ken Rockwell. I prefer Norman, myself. Joseph

Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-08 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Having looked comprehensively and taken recommendations from locals, this seems to be the best company to deal with and, to me, the best location. Alnmouth is on the main east coast train route and close to the A1. Well stocked with shops and pubs. A good base for further

RE: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-08 Thread Bob W
Alnmouth is on the main east coast train route and close to the A1. Well stocked with shops and pubs. A good base for further exploration of the area. The link goes to the letting company's list of places, starting with the biggest. Count down to get to other lets.

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
If Microsoft had told the RIAA to go pound sand, the RIAA would have had no realistic choice except to go pound sand. No one /forced/ Microsoft to do anything. Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 02:01:00PM -0400, Adam

Re: Kennyboy kills the Zone system for digital in Outdoor Photograpy

2009-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: For people who purport to think that KR has the brains of a ball of earwax, you sure spend a lot of time discussing him. Hey, don't sell the earwax short. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with

Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
thanks for the great info re a suitable monitor(s) for the workstation. Now, how about the CPU, RAM, graphics card etc? I am sure that bigger, faster etc is always better but what makes a sensible tradeoff between features and price? Alastair -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO -- After the Fall.

2009-08-08 Thread ann sanfedele
I like the concept the truck , the bike, the message, the play on words... but there is a bit too much to look at ... KInda busy... I blame the grass and the weeds... :-) I think grass is always a problem in black and white, too so this is your neigborhood these days, is it? (ann doesn't

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: If Microsoft had told the RIAA to go pound sand, the RIAA would have had no realistic choice except to go pound sand.  No one /forced/ Microsoft to do anything. That is unfortunately not the case. If MS wanted

Re: PESO - 2469

2009-08-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/7/2009 2:48:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket

Re: PESO 2009 - 127 - GDG

2009-08-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/7/2009 5:47:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ramar...@mac.com writes: On a blustery, damp day in Howth, a stone stair called to me ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/127-stone-stair comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey --

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Alastair Robertson wrote: thanks for the great info re a suitable monitor(s) for the workstation. Now, how about the CPU, RAM, graphics card etc? I am sure that bigger, faster etc is always better but what makes a sensible tradeoff between features and price? For most of what you're doing

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/7/2009 4:05:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: again == Watch that, you're getting repetitious. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 09/08/2009, Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the great info re a suitable monitor(s) for the workstation. Now, how about the CPU, RAM, graphics card etc? I am sure that bigger, faster etc is always better but what makes a sensible tradeoff between features and

Re: ping

2009-08-08 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Aug 9, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Licensing matters. And several of those corporations make MS look small (Sony for starters). Once I rented Pirates of the Caribbean and tried to watch it on my Mac, with a licensed and legal DVD player software. But it didn't work. That is the

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
Rob and Doug Thanks again - more good into but I am starting to get a bit lost when it comes to RAIDs stripes and mirrors - wikipedia helped me out a little but as you can tell I am pretty dense on this stuff. I have to work within the Universities workstation platform so can't custom build any

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Alastair, http://tomshardware.com is a good resource for getting this sort of information. They have nice reviews, comparative charts, etc. It's always an optimization between the price and the capabilities.. I am also trying to choose a desktop for myself, so I can share with you some of my

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 04:04:12PM +1200, Alastair Robertson scripsit: There are a variety of graphics cards offered from the base Intel Dual DVI controller to ASUS and PNY Quadro cards with a whole lot of acronyms I don't understand. If I get two of the Dell 22 Monitors I found yesterday -

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Alastair Robertson wrote: Thanks again - more good into but I am starting to get a bit lost when it comes to RAIDs stripes and mirrors - wikipedia helped me out a little but as you can tell I am pretty dense on this stuff. RAID is getting esoteric. The payoff can be good, but selecting the

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Graydon wrote: Generally speaking, you want a fairly good card to drive a pair of 22 monitors; this does *not* include the Intel. If you were in the US, I'd expect you want the 200 USD price point, rather than the 139 USD price point. There are plenty of cards out there even below the 139

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
you guys are great! so how does this sound? Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 3.0Ghz LGA775 6M Cache 1333FSB #E8400) 2x Adata 2GB DDR2 800 DIMM Seagate 1TB SATA 3G 32mb cache (they don't list the speed) Asus EN9800GT 512MB PCI-E Video Card 2x DVI-I HTV) Highpower HPC620-A12C 620W ATX PSU Triple 12v

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
AFAIK, most today's video cards are capable of driving dual monitors. You don't really need dual DVI outputs, - you can get two monitors attached to one video card using a DVI splitter that you can buy for ~$5-7 on monoprice.com. Igor Sat Aug 8 23:32:50 CDT 2009 Graydon wrote: On Sun, Aug

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit: Graydon wrote: Generally speaking, you want a fairly good card to drive a pair of 22 monitors; this does *not* include the Intel. If you were in the US, I'd expect you want the 200 USD price point, rather than the 139 USD price

Re: Great info on the monitor how about the CPU?

2009-08-08 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 01:05:07AM -0400, Igor Roshchin scripsit: AFAIK, most today's video cards are capable of driving dual monitors. You don't really need dual DVI outputs, - you can get two monitors attached to one video card using a DVI splitter that you can buy for ~$5-7 on

PESO: Tongan Winter

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
http://www.pbase.com/update_image/115872534 We spent three idyllic days at this place in Vava'u in Tonga in June (winter in the Southern Hemisphere) - wonderful. Great snorkeling just in front of the island visible in the background in 25 c water. Recently picked up the DA16-45/4 - most

PESO 2009 - 128 - GDG

2009-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
From my 'round the USA' car trip in 2006 ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/128-roadside-forest Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. enjoy Godfrey http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Tongan Winter

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
sorry wrong link http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/115872534 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Alastair Robertsonkiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pbase.com/update_image/115872534 We spent three idyllic days at this place in Vava'u in Tonga in June (winter in the Southern

Re: PESO 2009 - 127 - GDG

2009-08-08 Thread Alastair Robertson
this is great - like the toning and the vignette - are these done in lightroom? Alastair On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:04 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/7/2009 5:47:57 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, ramar...@mac.com writes: On a blustery, damp day in Howth, a  stone stair called

Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-08 Thread David Mann
On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Bob W wrote: Paper maps are so 20th century... I'm amused by the fact that men have a reputation of never using a map or asking directions. But put the map and directions into an electronic gizmo and it's an entirely different story. Dave -- PDML