Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >The Taliban assassinated Ahmed Shah Mahsoud, one of the Northern Alliance >leaders/warlords, on Sept 9th 2001 using a weapon built into a video camera. Fascinating. I've often wondered if this has been done. Any ref links? -- Cheers, Cotty __

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
2010/2/20 P. J. Alling : > > The Swiss  understand this at least.  Citizens are armed subjects aren't.. >  I believe that the Swiss used to wear their swords to vote as proof of > citizenship.  Maybe they still do. they do. daggers. in some places required for communal elections as well as local r

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
2010/2/20 William Jeffrey Wiseman : > > Funny thing about gun laws, the state in the US with some of the least > restrictive laws (Vermont) is one of the safest. assuming a monocausal relationship between laws and crime... assuming further a nationwide identical sociodemography and so on - I doubt

Re: FS FRiday

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
stuff happy buying ecke 2010/2/20 frank theriault : > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> The first few items in this gallery on my web page are photo equip >> The password is "stuff" >> First thing is a SanDisk Image Mate 12 in 1 reader/writer >> Next the sigma mini-wide len

Re: GESO - Tama

2010-02-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20/02/2010, Derby Chang wrote: > > Dave's surfing and turfing inspired me to get out there and take some action > pics. Tama is Tamarama beach, a much more pleasant place than posey Bondi, > methinks > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_02/10_02_tama/index.htm Great shots, I like the

GESO - Tama

2010-02-19 Thread Derby Chang
Dave's surfing and turfing inspired me to get out there and take some action pics. Tama is Tamarama beach, a much more pleasant place than posey Bondi, methinks http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_02/10_02_tama/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc --

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 1:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Tomek Machnik On 19-02-2010 18:04, Scott Loveless wrote: >> Aren't guns in public hands a great thing? > > They might have been. The idea of bringing a weapon "for self-protection" to an academic meeting sounds weird. Having never kept a gun

Re: PESO - A Princess Among Cameras

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 1:39 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/18/10, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I wish him the best of luck with those pictures. Shooting with those plastic wonders is always an adventure, so I'm told... Oh, it is. Figure th

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 19, 2010, at 21:10 , frank theriault wrote: Look. A guy flew an airplane into a building. He's dead. There's a big hole in the building. What do we gain by describing it is a terrorist act? What do we gain by labeling him a terrorist? What's the use in debating this? Thank you fo

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 19, 2010, at 21:11 , P. J. Alling wrote: On 2/19/2010 12:55 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/19/10, CheekyGeek wrote: I'm non-political, but my wife teaches English at a university and I find myself asking myself, would I feel BETTER about her safety if (in the world of 2010) I cou

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/20/2010 12:10 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:52 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I just think it's inconsistent to call one group of people who fly planes into buildings on purpose as a political statement terrorists and then turn around and say another person who does t

Re: FS FRiday

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > The first few items in this gallery on my web page are photo equip > The password is "stuff" > First thing is a SanDisk Image Mate 12 in 1 reader/writer > Next the sigma mini-wide lens, etc... > > http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-sel

Re: OT Job offer: was HRG / KDB Analyst for Quantitative Trading

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Note that they require god level proficiency in Q. > Either they are very demanding or they can't spell either. It's only god with a small "g"... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 20/02/2010, frank theriault wrote: > >> Pretty much everything in that paragraph after the first sentence is >> total and utter bullshit. > > Guess so > > http://www.nationmaster.com/cat/cri-crime There's no category in Nationmaster call

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 12:55 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/19/10, CheekyGeek wrote: I'm non-political, but my wife teaches English at a university and I find myself asking myself, would I feel BETTER about her safety if (in the world of 2010) I could be sure that EVERY student in her class, ev

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20/02/2010, frank theriault wrote: > Pretty much everything in that paragraph after the first sentence is > total and utter bullshit. Guess so http://www.nationmaster.com/cat/cri-crime -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, F

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:52 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > I just think it's inconsistent to call one group of people who fly planes > into buildings on purpose as a political statement terrorists and then turn > around and say another person who does the same thing is not a terrorist > just because

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 12:55 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/19/10, CheekyGeek wrote: I'm non-political, but my wife teaches English at a university and I find myself asking myself, would I feel BETTER about her safety if (in the world of 2010) I could be sure that EVERY student in her class, ev

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
And a full inkjet recharge will only cost $2511 USD ! ;-} And I'd love to have the business needed to support the outlay for the printer ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Great Printer Deal at Atlex Atlex is now o

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: >  Canadian gun > control, while liberal compared to GB's, is fairly restrictive > compared to most of the US.  Yet their violent crime rates are still > higher than ours - in 2003 it was 963 per 100,000, vs. 475 per 100,000 > in the US.  The

RE: PESO - Two Pair of Shoes on a Sidewalk

2010-02-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault Why? I can never figure stuff like this out. Who put them there and for what reason? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/two-pair-of-shoes-on-sidewalk.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank A Poem: I was sad because I had no shoes. Then I

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:  Her court appointed > attorney met with her for 3 hours over two days and says she is > insane.  You think??? I see that there are (so far) 43 posts on this thread, and I'm not sure if I'll read every one of them, but before I leave this thr

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rob Studdert On 20/02/2010, John Francis wrote: > For real large format, you might want to take a look at these folks: > > They look like they know what they're doing, the obviously run a fully colour managed work flow. They even take 16 bit TIFF fil

Re: PESO - A Princess Among Cameras

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > > Oh, it is.  Figure the exposure is bad on at least half the roll.  Of > those that were exposed, more or less, reasonably, you'll probably > botch the composition on a few.  At least once per roll the shutter > won't open at all.  You'll d

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 3:22 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/19/10, Bob W wrote: > > > Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. > > > Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I > > > never imagined. > > > Do I need to visuali

RE: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist Atlex is now offering the Epson 11880 for just 8K -- with free shipping. Time to buy! The retail price is more than 11K. It prints with K3 inks through nine channel heads, so that's about as good as it gets .The printer can turn out 64 inch wide pics, so if you're printing a

PESO - Two Pair of Shoes on a Sidewalk

2010-02-19 Thread frank theriault
Why? I can never figure stuff like this out. Who put them there and for what reason? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/two-pair-of-shoes-on-sidewalk.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

RE: Is there any truth in this (UK)?

2010-02-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" > > UK Gov nationalises orphans and bans non-consensual > photography in public > > http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk-gov-nationalises-orpha > ns-and-bans-non-consensual-photography-in-public?page=1 First I've heard of it. The digital economy bill appears to be similar to

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Bob Blackley(sp), used to carry a Colt 45 Auto IIRC. I've never bothered, but then I don't go places where I know I'll need one. I haven't seen him contribute to the list lately. On 2/19/2010 3:03 PM, Toine wrote: Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. Friendly US

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 12:49 PM, Drew wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: I'm non-political, but my wife teaches English at a university and I find myself asking myself, would I feel BETTER about her safety if (in the world of 2010) I could be sure that EVERY student in her class, every coworker in her department, e

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Scott Loveless On 2/19/10, Bob W wrote: > > > > > > > Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. > > > > Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I > > > > never imagined. > > > > Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their >

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 11:48 AM, Drew wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Has the report of the biology professor at Univ. of Alabama - Huntsville reached you yet? The woman was denyed tenure, so she took out a pistol at a department meeting and started shooting colleagues in the head. She killed 3 and wounded 3

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Aparenty she also killed her brother in 1985 IIRC, and seems to have been a supect in a series of bombings. Nutcase doesn't do her justice. However she claimed the first incident was accidental, and hid the second, so she obviously realized her actions were /wrong/ so she's sane for purposes

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 10:52 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "Bob W" [...] > > It just irks me that the way the government "defines" > terrorism doesn't take into account individual acting > nutburgers. His act is a terrorist act. His behavior is > terrorist behavior. But because we can't link him to som

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Obviously the British recognized it as an army, even if they often saw it as little better than Milita. But then the British more or less designed the Milita system in use in the Colonies, and still in a modified form recognized by the United States Code today. On 2/19/2010 9:44 PM, Bob Sulli

RE: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" [...] > > It just irks me that the way the government "defines" > terrorism doesn't take into account individual acting > nutburgers. His act is a terrorist act. His behavior is > terrorist behavior. But because we can't link him to some > foreign ideology, he's not a terrorist

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/19/2010 10:12 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: plane crash From my point of view, if you're sneaking around, targeting civilians - soft targets for effect, for the purpose of influencing public opinion, influencing government poli

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread Subash
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:59:34 -0500 paul stenquist wrote: > > I kinda fail to see the notion born in conjunction with a nation - > > imo a nation is a randomly outlined landmass with more or less > > homogenous ethnicity and more or less of a government - and a > > nation can be considered terrori

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread William Jeffrey Wiseman
Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I never imagined. Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their photobags??? Did off and on for years. But the reason was more often in case of animal t

GESO 2010 - Fog At Byxbee Park - GDG

2010-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The walk was serene ... the light and air brilliant: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-byxbee-park comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailm

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20/02/2010, John Francis wrote: > For real large format, you might want to take a look at these folks: > > They look like they know what they're doing, the obviously run a fully colour managed work flow. They even take 16 bit TIFF files and seen to be able

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:47:53PM -0500, Scott Loveless wrote: > On 2/19/10, paul stenquist wrote: > > Atlex is now offering the Epson 11880 for just 8K -- with free shipping. > > Time to buy! The retail price is more than 11K. It prints with K3 inks > > through nine channel heads, so that's a

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, You better not tell George Washington that he didn't have an army. Nobody wintered in Valley Forge. Nobody made the British surrender at Yorktown. Nope, there was no army involved. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:18 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - Fr

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:18 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "P N Stenquist" > Subject: Re: plane crash > > > >>> >> Utter nonsense. American revolutionary forces were organized armies that >> took direct action against British troops. Undoubtedly, both sides ac

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: plane crash That pretty much makes your own country born by terrorism. And Canada, and Mexico ... as well as our respective mother countries don't you think? Don't know about Mexico, Canada was started as a business arm of

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P N Stenquist" Subject: Re: plane crash Utter nonsense. American revolutionary forces were organized armies that took direct action against British troops. Undoubtedly, both sides acted against civilian populations to some extent, but the American R

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 20/02/2010, paul stenquist wrote: > >> Sounds like a plan. I'm ready. Send your check! > > I was rather hoping I could run it here ;-) > > I'd love the printer but I'm not so bothered with the MF camera, the > small sensor bodies are alrea

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20/02/2010, paul stenquist wrote: > Sounds like a plan. I'm ready. Send your check! I was rather hoping I could run it here ;-) I'd love the printer but I'm not so bothered with the MF camera, the small sensor bodies are already producing images that would warrant the size (seamlessly stitch

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 19, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > On 2/19/10, paul stenquist wrote: >> Atlex is now offering the Epson 11880 for just 8K -- with free shipping. >> Time to buy! The retail price is more than 11K. It prints with K3 inks >> through nine channel heads, so that's about as good a

Re: Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/10, paul stenquist wrote: > Atlex is now offering the Epson 11880 for just 8K -- with free shipping. > Time to buy! The retail price is more than 11K. It prints with K3 inks > through nine channel heads, so that's about as good as it gets .The printer > can turn out 64 inch wide pics,

Great Printer Deal at Atlex

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
Atlex is now offering the Epson 11880 for just 8K -- with free shipping. Time to buy! The retail price is more than 11K. It prints with K3 inks through nine channel heads, so that's about as good as it gets .The printer can turn out 64 inch wide pics, so if you're printing a rectangular image t

Re: What's the shutter noise like on the K-x?

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
For what it's worth, the K7 is far quieter than the K20D. In truth, it compares favorably with my Leica iiif. Definitely the quietest SLR I've ever used. Paul On Feb 19, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > I held my K20D and K-x side by side at 1/125 sec and fired both > a whole bunch of time

Re: What's the shutter noise like on the K-x?

2010-02-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
I held my K20D and K-x side by side at 1/125 sec and fired both a whole bunch of times. The K-x has a higher sound, but the sound seemed about the same decibel level. Certainly not a marked difference between them. Because the FPS is faster on the K-x, it is noticeable that it finishes quicker t

Re: What's the shutter noise like on the K-x?

2010-02-19 Thread Bong Manayon
Way lot quieter than the K10D/K20D, but a little bit more 'clicky' than the K-7. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > How does it compare with the K20? K7? > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http:

What's the shutter noise like on the K-x?

2010-02-19 Thread Larry Colen
How does it compare with the K20? K7? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

FS FRiday

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
plain text resend -- Forwarded message -- From: eckinator Date: 2010/2/20 Subject: Re: FS FRiday To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List thanks that helped - i just googled it and it does with the latest firmware sdhc aka sd high capacity is the latest flavor of sd that supports 4 gb and

Re: PESO -- Not a Decoy

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
2010/2/18 P. J. Alling > > Sometimes swimming is just out of the question. especially when you have close air support ]=) fun shot name well picked -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link d

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Whaley
paul stenquist wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/19/10, John Sessoms wrote: From: Scott Loveless Or that Canada had any less culpability for their treatment of indigenous peoples prior to the 21st century.

Re: FS FRiday

2010-02-19 Thread ann sanfedele
eckinator wrote: Does the AnnSanDisk reader support SDHC? (Figured I'd ask onlist so you only get the Q once) Cheers Ecke No clue what that is... but the model number of the reader I'm selling is SDDR-89 the packaging says "Hi speed USB-2" the bar code number is 6 19659 0216 1 the bar c

RE: Is there any truth in this (UK)?

2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
> > UK Gov nationalises orphans and bans non-consensual > photography in public > > http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk-gov-nationalises-orpha > ns-and-bans-non-consensual-photography-in-public?page=1 First I've heard of it. The digital economy bill appears to be similar to the recent Fren

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 19, 2010, at 2:53 PM, eckinator wrote: > 2010/2/19 paul stenquist : >> Well okay:-). But I regret saying it, even if the young man in question was >> acting somewhat irrational. I am concerned about his physical well being. > > It is OK Paul - I laid it on a little thicker as I always do

Re: Hausermann's Orchids

2010-02-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Ken, I'll have a closer look. Bob S. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Bob, thje first 6 are very dark - the white point hadn't been set. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: GESO: Hauserman

Is there any truth in this (UK)?

2010-02-19 Thread Rob Studdert
UK Gov nationalises orphans and bans non-consensual photography in public http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk-gov-nationalises-orphans-and-bans-non-consensual-photography-in-public?page=1 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter,

Re: OT Job offer: was HRG / KDB Analyst for Quantitative Trading

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
I'd be careful Dave - if they google you and find this post including the 1972 Seneca comment and their consultant's direct number, they may not be too amused. Cheers & good luck Ecke 2010/2/19 David J Brooks : > I had no idea that my Fortran IV classes at Seneca back in 1972, would > lead to this

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Tomek Machnik
On 19-02-2010 19:02, Scott Loveless wrote: I know quite a few people with concealed carry permits. Where I live one can get such a permit. Unlike in US however, it's nearly impossible here unless you are a top politician or other criminal (though not/yet convicted) type. Just found that as

Re: Hausermann's Orchids

2010-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
Bob, thje first 6 are very dark - the white point hadn't been set. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: GESO: Hausermann's Orchids Hausermann's is a world class orchid grower in suburban Chicago. They will have an open hou

FS - Pentax miscellany

2010-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
+ Cables switch 'F' is used on PZ1, PZ1P, MZ/ZX series, except MZ-S and MZ-6/ZXL ( per Boz's Site), also used on 645N. I have two. One in need of repair and one fully functional & in as new condition. $20 USD for both + Original operating manual for PZ1P camera with separate Pentax Function card

FS - SMC Pentax F Zoom 28-80mm f3.5/4.5

2010-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
All my images in the Pentax Gallery, taken with a 28-80mm lens were with this lens. I've owned this lens since new, over 22 years. One of my most often used lens. It is built like a tank, with what almost appears to be rubber armor. Close focuses to .25 meters. Shows signs of use, not abuse. Opti

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Matthew Hunt" Subject: Re: OT: Speaking of nutters... On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: I'm not above being baited. Careful, some of these guys are masters. Off hand, I'd agree wi

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Christian
On 2/19/2010 3:22 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/19/10, Bob W wrote: > Didn't some spy agency have a single-shot pistol built into an SLR? > "C'est fromage!" What I'm thinking of, and i swear I've seen a photo or drawing of it, looked exactly like some common SLR. Behind the lens wa

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/10, Bob W wrote: > > > > > > > Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. > > > > Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I > > > > never imagined. > > > > Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their > > photobags??? > > > > >

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
2010/2/19 Scott Loveless : > > Didn't some spy agency have a single-shot pistol built into an SLR? > "C'est fromage!" I just caught myself imagining a lens in which the individual elements have razor sharp edges and your lens can fire them off much like frisbees at peoples necks or prominent/vuler

RE: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
> > > > > Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. > > > Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I > > > never imagined. > > > Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their > photobags??? > > > > > > > That's what you call 'enablement'...

Re: OT - Terrorism (was: plane crash)

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
Dario, I think that is a great way to put it =) 2010/2/19 Dario Bonazza : > I  think terrorism is when you shoot in the bunch, while guerrilla is > selecting your target. Of course, you can also be somewhere in between, you > can make mistakes, and so on. I can understand guerrilla, while I cannot

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/10, Tomek Machnik wrote: > On 19-02-2010 21:03, Toine wrote: > > > Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. > > Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I never > > imagined. > > Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their photobag

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
2010/2/19 CheekyGeek : > The problem with nutters: they feel that everyone who doesn't > believe/feel/act the same way that they do is a nutter. lower case mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visi

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Tomek Machnik
On 19-02-2010 21:03, Toine wrote: Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I never imagined. Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their photobags??? That's what you call 'enablement'... tm --

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread CheekyGeek
I was debating a topic, not any one person. However, I will go on the record for being against giving gun ownership to people who are prone to being easily offended and taking things too personally. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, NE On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > On 2/19/10,

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/10, CheekyGeek wrote: > The problem with nutters: they feel that everyone who doesn't > believe/feel/act the same way that they do is a nutter. I don't think you're a nut, but I don't appreciate your ad hominem attack, either. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Toine
Amazing. I realized many US citizens have guns inside their homes. Friendly US citizens carrying guns on the street was something I never imagined. Do I need to visualize PDML'ers with handguns in their photobags??? On 19 February 2010 19:50, Scott Loveless wrote: > On 2/19/10, Toine wrote: >> D

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2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
Does the AnnSanDisk reader support SDHC? (Figured I'd ask onlist so you only get the Q once) Cheers Ecke 2010/2/19 ann sanfedele : > The first few items in this gallery on my web page are photo equip > The password is "stuff" > First thing is a SanDisk Image Mate 12 in 1 reader/writer > Next the s

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2010-02-19 Thread eckinator
2010/2/19 paul stenquist : > Well okay:-). But I regret saying it, even if the young man in question was > acting somewhat irrational. I am concerned about his physical well being. It is OK Paul - I laid it on a little thicker as I always do when it comes to Vietraq, Gitmo, global climate or gene

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread CheekyGeek
The problem with nutters: they feel that everyone who doesn't believe/feel/act the same way that they do is a nutter. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

RE: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
When I was in Cape Town a few years ago there was an incident where a bad guy pulled a gun in the street. Someone else saw this, pulled his own gun and shot the first person. A 3rd person saw what had just happened, pulled _his_ gun and shot the 3rd before the police finally intervened. The 2nd pe

RE: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
[...] > > It just irks me that the way the government "defines" > terrorism doesn't take into account individual acting > nutburgers. His act is a terrorist act. His behavior is > terrorist behavior. But because we can't link him to some > foreign ideology, he's not a terrorist. > > It walks

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Sandy Harris
On 2/20/10, CheekyGeek wrote: > If we are all better off (safer) if everyone is carrying firearms then > it logically follows that the world is a safer place if all > governments have nuclear weapons. I've been trying to stay out of this debate, but I have to call "bullshit" on this. > This

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Adam Maas
Yes and yes. There was arecent attempted church shooting in the US, stopped by a concealed carry holder who was doing security, and at least one attempted school shooting was stopped after a teacher retrieved his weapon from his car and stopped the shooter. Just about every major mass shooting in

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2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
[...] > And I-94W Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver Arrival/Departure Form > asks on the back C.: "Have you ever been ore are you now > involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist > activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and > 1945 were involved, in any way, in persecutions associated > with Na

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 19, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Bob W wrote: > >> I think they need to change your meds. You've become a >> genuine nutcase. > > I expect someone's beaten me to it, but... > > ...Mark! > Well okay:-). But I regret saying it, even if the young man in question was acting somewhat irrational. I a

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2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
> I think they need to change your meds. You've become a > genuine nutcase. I expect someone's beaten me to it, but... ...Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above an

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2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
> Of course it's important to note that by the time the US > became a nation, France, Spain and England had already done a > lot to turn the native population against colonists. By 1776, > nearly three hundred years of bad relations had set the stage > for the future. > I blame the French an

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > I'm not above being baited. Careful, some of these guys are masters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and fol

RE: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Bob W
> Has the report of the biology professor at Univ. of Alabama - > Huntsville reached you yet? The woman was denyed tenure, so > she took out a pistol at a department meeting and started > shooting colleagues in the head. She killed 3 and wounded 3 > others. Only the gun jamming saved the re

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
No, people don't carry guns or wear them in the USA. Criminals and some young gang-bangers carry guns, but not most normal folks. Police detectives in street clothing are the only ones who do routinely. If your job or personal circumstances require the need for a gun, you can apply to the state

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/10, AlunFoto wrote: > 2010/2/19 Drew : > > > Aren't guns in public hands a great thing? > > > Flame baiting. > > Remember, if they bite, you gotta reel 'em in. :-) I'm not above being baited. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 19, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: >> On 2/19/10, John Sessoms wrote: >>> From: Scott Loveless >>> > >>> >>> Or that Canada had any less culpability for their treatment of indigenous >>> peoples prior to the 21st cent

Re: OT: Speaking of nutters...

2010-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/19 Drew : > Aren't guns in public hands a great thing? Flame baiting. Remember, if they bite, you gotta reel 'em in. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSU

Re: PESO: Back porch view with something new

2010-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
When am I going to find time for porn? I can barely keep up with the list. MARK ! At the rate at which this list is generating 'MARKS !' we're are going to need a separate annual book, just for the quotes. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Joh

Re: plane crash

2010-02-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > On 2/19/10, John Sessoms wrote: >> From: Scott Loveless >> >> > >> >>  Or that Canada had any less culpability for their treatment of indigenous >> peoples prior to the 21st century. > > Well, in defense of past Canadians, while not innoce

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2010-02-19 Thread ann sanfedele
The first few items in this gallery on my web page are photo equip The password is "stuff" First thing is a SanDisk Image Mate 12 in 1 reader/writer Next the sigma mini-wide lens, etc... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/6280507_kw9Wv make me an offer on anything, of

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