Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:44:03PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: Have you noticed how many musicians have really crappy stereos? Two observations: o Musicians care more about the music than about the equipment o If it's not as good as live music, it really doesn't matter exactly how

Re: iPands are in, film developing are out

2012-03-15 Thread mike wilson
On 13/03/2012 19:27, Mark Roberts wrote: Signs of the times. In the E.U. there's a standard list of consumer goods which are monitored for price in order to calculate the rate of inflation. Today iPads (and similar tablet devices) were added. And film processing removed. iPand. Is that

Re: Pentax DA 18-135 zoom

2012-03-15 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:03:45PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Does anyone have any experience with, or opinions on, the following lens? smc PENTAX-DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-135mm ED AL [IF] DC WR And just what do all those letters at the end mean? ED - Extra Dispersion Some elements made

Re: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01

2012-03-15 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Ok, maybe my expectations were too high. Probably I have read some reviews of recent Oly's or Panny's with AF 'almost as good if not better than DSLRs' and I expected something similar instead of something average. Anyway, I can live with it in a mirrorless, but not with the mentioned LCD/EVF

Re: PESO: Snowdrop

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't know how many versions there were. But the first one, which is generally considered the best, is very heavy and is of thick metal construction. It can focus on objects at up to 1: 2 imaging -- half size on the negative or sensor. It comes with an optical adapter that attaches to the

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Well, OK then...the Peter Lik of painters?   Jack - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:37 PM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Especially like 5601, Walt. All well done. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12 Hi all, At the risk of wearing everyone

Re: Pentax DA 18-135 zoom

2012-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
DC - Direct current motor, so it's not SDM, thought based on the power-supply in the camera I'd think they were both powered by direct current, but then I'm not a Japanese marketer. On 3/15/2012 3:34 AM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:03:45PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Re: Peso roof line

2012-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I'd like to visit Stouffville some day - it's such a great name for a town. Drop in any time. I';m the third house on the left next to the white barn, that's painted red now, but it burnt down. And yes we still give directions

Re: Pentax DA 18-135 zoom

2012-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, PJ, but I am not switching to Nikon at this point. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I had no intentions either, wonder why i have 5 of them now,.:-) Dave On Wed, Mar 14, 2012

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
Really like 5602-2,5613,5601 and 5591 the last one almost looks like a landscape after a bombing raid, so bleak and sterile with the one equine. Dave On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, At the risk of wearing everyone out with GESOs and PESOs, I

Re: PESO - Coffee, Cigarettes and a Polo Mallet

2012-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
Interesting angle here but it works for me. Dave On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:00 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Just fooling around.  Hopefully you like: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/03/coffee-cigarettes-and-polo-mallet.html Comments always welcome. cheers,

Re: PESO - Frosty

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Mark! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Frosty On 3/12/2012

RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
First of all that is indeed a wonderful photo; I remember it well and I know I've already passed on that opinion. As for the contest, I'll echo what many others have already said about it being a popularity contest, the large number of entries giving those at the top of the list an advantage,

RE: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
5591 is an especially good shot. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Front

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thank you, Jack. That one was kind of poignant in that it was the view my mother looked out at through her bedroom window. She had me my brother rearrange her bedroom so she could look out at it from her bed last spring. -- Walt On 3/15/2012 7:56 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Especially like

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
wait we are getting confused... Thomas Kincade is the Kennyboy of painters Peter Lik is the obnoxious photographer ann On 3/15/2012 08:53, Jack Davis wrote: Well, OK then...the Peter Lik of painters? Jack - Original Message - From: Larry Colenl...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thanks, David! I thought the same thing about the horse shot, myself. Has a certain post-apocalyptic look to it. Like something out of that Kevin Costner movie, The Postman. Thanks for the kind words on the other shots, as well. -- Walt On 3/15/2012 8:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Really

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, David! I thought the same thing about the horse shot, myself. Has a certain post-apocalyptic look to it. Like something out of that Kevin Costner movie, The Postman. That's what i was trying to say, thanks for

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thank you, Frank! I wasn't crazy about the color rendering at all. But, I liked the horse's stance a lot -- almost posed-looking. So, I converted it to black and white so that its stance was more essential to the image, and thought it worked. -- Walt On 3/15/2012 8:52 AM,

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Walt. Appreciate your allowing me that personal note. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:34 AM Subject: Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12 Thank you, Jack.

RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our

Re: Pentax DA 18-135 zoom

2012-03-15 Thread p. j. alling
Well, my friend used to shoot Pentax, moved to a Canon D-Rebel, because Pentax didn't have a presence in either the local Camera store or any of the big box/home electronics stores, and became dissatisfied with the results from that, (mostly the fault of the krappy kit lens and krappier 28-300mm

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
..or vice versa. Works either way.  Are you saying Kennyboy isn't, also, obnoxious? ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:34 AM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics wait we are

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me

RE: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W How did Thomas Kinkade get into that list? And what great pictures has he painted? cheers, frank Pearls before swine! Got half of it right anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Doug Brewer
On 3/15/12 11:06 AM, Tom C wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.comknarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote: I agree half-way with you. The theoretical image COULD be pure schmuck and 'the many' were duped into following the masses because of the stature of the photographer. Tom C. Maybe, but how does the photographer get his stature in

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread George Sinos
Tom - Are you aware that everything on PDML is publicly available on the archive? http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/index.html It's easy to forget that our little list is not a private place. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
I would have never thought it possible to insult Kennyboy. From: Jack Davis The Kennyboy of painters. ? Jack - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:27 PM Subject:

Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Darren Addy
Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:44:03PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: Have you noticed how many musicians have really crappy stereos? Two observations: o Musicians care more about the music than about the equipment o If it's not as good as live music, it really doesn't matter

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
Tom - Are you aware that everything on PDML is publicly available on the archive? http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/index.html It's easy to forget that our little list is not a private place. gs George Sinos Yes I am. :-) That's why I typically post under Tom C. and not my full

Re: Pentax DA 18-135 zoom

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:03:45PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Does anyone have any experience with, or opinions on, the following lens? smc PENTAX-DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-135mm ED AL [IF] DC WR And just what do all those letters at the end mean? ED - Extra Dispersion

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
Tom C wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Then along came Kinkade..for which I'll be forever grateful. Jack - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics I would have never thought it possible to insult Kennyboy.

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread p. j. alling
Maybe if it was Pentax, for Leica you spend a lot for a nameplate. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Darren Addy

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yes, I am aware of that. And yes, I'm sure that some commercial interest or other can (and probably has) mined some information from our witty pearls of wisdom. However, two points: 1. PDML is not driven by or affiliated with any commercial interests, and I really appreciate that, and, 2.

Re: Plastic Bullet

2012-03-15 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-13 18:02 Daniel J. Matyola wrote Has anyone tried this app? http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/plastic-bullet/ i have needed to sort out for myself what all those bloody photo apps are on my phone, so i took your question as an opportunity to sort through 34 apps and

Re: Plastic Bullet

2012-03-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
looks entertaining. dunno if its worth another $2 ... I've got a lot of these apps already. G On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried this app? http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/plastic-bullet/ Dan Matyola

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote: I agree half-way with you. The theoretical image COULD be pure schmuck and 'the many' were duped into following the masses because of the stature of the photographer. Tom C.

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Virtually everything I've ever seen of his has been nauseatingly over saturated. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:17 AM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics On Wed, Mar 14,

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread kwaller
I had never heard of him until a recent series about his photographic trips on the Weather channel. He comes across as bigger than life, a little too aninmated but I think his photos speak for them self. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Let's be a bit more precise here, it's not impossible to insult Kennyboy, it's impossible for Kennyboy to be insulted. A very subtle difference. On 3/15/2012 11:59 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I would have never thought it possible to insult Kennyboy. From: Jack Davis The Kennyboy of painters.

PESO -- The Tower II

2012-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
For those of you who wondered where it was. The Tower II with Green Man err Green Woman, err Green Person, (because he she it seems to have the necessary accessories to be a woman, buy you never know). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetowerii.html Equipment: Pentax K20D

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
I had never heard of him until a recent series about his photographic trips on the Weather channel. He comes across as bigger than life, a little too aninmated but I think his photos speak for them self. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I hadn't heard of him

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Well, Tom I recall your Velvia  past. Doubtless your color cones are calloused. ;-)   Jack - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics I had never heard of him until a recent series

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:17 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I had never heard of him until a recent series about his photographic trips on the Weather channel. He comes across as bigger than life, a little too aninmated but I think his photos speak for them self. I

PESO: Yellow Tang

2012-03-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15292672size=md Comments are welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

RE: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska No. ... and no. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Darren Addy

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 15, 2012, at 15:37, John Sessoms wrote: From: Darren Addy Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska No. ... and no. What he said. -Charles --

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I have lots of problems with this guy and his photos. Let me start by saying that I don't know what art is, but when the word fine is put in front of it, it usually ain't. My biggest problem is that everything is larger than life. His descriptions of the hardships he endures to get the

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote: I agree half-way with you. The theoretical image COULD be pure schmuck and 'the many' were duped into following the masses because of the stature of the

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
No. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Sent: March 15, 2012 3/15/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera

RE: PESO: Yellow Tang

2012-03-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Gorgeous colours! Lovely. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: March 15, 2012 3/15/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO:

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Absolutely not. It's not necessary. Conversion is easy ad very efficient. IMore importantly, I wouldn't want the camera to do that for me. I want to be able to assign grey values to the various colors. Paul On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
One final minor Peter Lik comment; I doubt he completed a sentence during his Weather Channel photo series that didn't include the fillers, bloody /or mate. Jack - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc:

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: One final minor Peter Lik comment; I doubt he completed a sentence during his Weather Channel photo series that didn't includenbsp;the fillers,nbsp;bloody /or mate. Starve the bloody lizards! You got a problem with that, cobber...er, mate?? (I've

Re: PESO: Yellow Tang

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
I like that a lot, Dan. Wonderful color and detail in the subject. -- Walt On 3/15/2012 3:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15292672size=md Comments are welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Let's rephrase that question: Would you like a camera with two stops more sensitivity, and three or four times

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Bulent Celasun
A definite yes (even before rephrasing the question). Color has never been a strong part of my view and it usually gets in the way! I also wish I had a pocket that deep, by the way! Bulent -

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: A definite yes (even before rephrasing the question). Color has never been a strong part of my view and it usually gets in the way! I also wish I had a pocket that deep, by the way! Hell, I'd settle for having a pocket that deep, even

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
Have never before seen the mystery letter groups I've parenthesized at the end of that sentence. I just checked my sent file and do not find them. ?? What's a cobber? Jack ;-) - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

GESO spcecdt

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
Since I mentioned it http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629586266869/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629586266869/ Most of these photos haven't been cleaned up much, I just did a quick search and post so people who needed photos for the memorial could find

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bruce - In my case, it is his irritating patter with his Weather Channel show... and his self-agrandisement. He just shouts throughout the show OH, AH, Gotta get this.. This is so great, blah blah, while his video guy is getting the lovely shots. ann On 3/15/2012 13:17, Bruce Walker wrote:

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
Perhaps insult was not the right word to convey what I meant. Kennyboy *is* a clueless git, but he's not a bad person. Kinkade is an oxygen thief with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and a complete waste of space on planet Earth. From: P. J. Alling Let's be a bit more precise here,

Re: PAW114 - Island

2012-03-15 Thread DagT
Thank you to Brian, Dave, Godfrey, knarf, Tim, Dan and Bulent :-) DagT Den 13. mars 2012 kl. 12:28 skrev Brian Walters: Quoting DagT li...@thrane.name: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA15mm, 1/13, f/4.0, ISO100. So simple. So stunning

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Perhaps insult was not the right word to convey what I meant. Kennyboy *is* a clueless git, but he's not a bad person. Kinkade is an oxygen thief with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and a complete waste of space on planet Earth. If

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Let's rephrase that question: Would you like a camera with two stops more sensitivity, and three or four times the resolution? Don't mix up the subject of resolution and sensitivity. A Bayer mosaic sensor with a given

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ No. For many of the reasons already given. However it was not that long ago that BW was the only choice. Even

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Well, Tom I recall your Velvia? past. Doubtless your color cones are calloused. ;-) ? Jack I still like Velvia. You live in a drab little world Jack. ;-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Let's rephrase that question: Would you like a camera with two stops more sensitivity, and

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jack Davis Have never before seen the mystery letter groups I've parenthesized at the end of that sentence. I just checked my sent file and do not find them. ?? What's a cobber? Jack Pal, homeboy, buddy, wingman, chum, bloke, dude, guy, crony, tovarisch ... - Original

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Jack Davis
I do shoot a lot of BW. h..   Jack - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:20 PM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Well, Tom I recall your Velvia? past. Doubtless your color cones

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Let's rephrase that question: Would you like a camera with two stops more sensitivity, and three or four times the resolution? Don't mix up the subject of

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jack Davis Have never before seen the mystery letter groups I've parenthesized at the end of that sentence. I just checked my sent file and do not find them. ?? What's a cobber? Jack Pal, homeboy, buddy, wingman, chum,

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Sorenson
A resounding no. You'd be back to using filters that affect the image globally. Converting from color to b/w allows you to filter selectively. -p On 3/15/2012 11:07 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Before you answer: What if it was a Leica?

Re: GESO spcecdt

2012-03-15 Thread Bruce Walker
Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Good on ya for doing this, Larry. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Since I mentioned it http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629586266869/ or

Re: Pentax DA 18-135 zoom

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Sorenson
Or some kind of dysfunction if the zoom hangs up at 18mm -p On 3/15/2012 11:16 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: John Francis On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:03:45PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Does anyone have any experience with, or opinions on, the following lens? smc PENTAX-DA 1:3.5-5.6

Re: GESO spcecdt

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, Larry. I remember you talking about him a bit when I was there visiting. It was obvious you had great respect and affection for the man. Between the photos and your email to the Linux group, you've put together a great, warm tribute to his memory. May

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Bruce Walker
Absolute ditto. I don't do that many BW's but even I see how anemic automatic conversions look compared to careful use of the colour mixer, contrast enhancement, etc. Unless this camera comes with Nik's bw plugin built-in, I'd give it a resounding meh. Assuming meh's can resound. On Thu, Mar 15,

Re: GESO spcecdt

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Sorenson
So sorry to hear this, Larry. Looks like he was a really special guy. -p On 3/15/2012 5:48 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Good on ya for doing this, Larry. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: Since I mentioned it

Re: GESO spcecdt (going a bit OT)

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, Larry. I remember you talking about him a bit when I was there visiting. It was obvious you had great respect and affection for the man. Thanks Walt, Bruce, Paul, and a preemptive thank you for people

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Wouldn't appeal to me at all. But if it were to have Leica on the front there's a substantial number of pretentious rich guys to whom it would appeal. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Interesting, I misunderstood.  I thought that each final site was an interpolation of three or four adjoining sites. Since it wasn't something I had the opportunity to do anything about, I didn't study it as deeply as I

RE: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Before you answer: What if it was a Leica? http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera- may-have-a-bw-sensor/ Nothing that Leica does would surprise me, but I might be a bit

RE: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] With his salesmanship skills, even I could make a comfortable living at photography. I think someone here said a few months ago that this guy had sold a print for a million dollars or some

RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Bob W
I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread kwaller
A whlie back I becames aware that he had sold a photograph of his for $ 1 million. This link http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2int_new=44121 mentions it but I couldn't find an internet link to the image itself. It was a very well executed image, but $1 million ? Kenneth Waller

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, At the risk of wearing everyone out with GESOs and PESOs, I thought I'd post some shots I grabbed this afternoon and evening. All but one of them are sunsets, and one is a bw landscape.

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread kwaller
With his salesmanship skills, even I could make a comfortable living at photography. Isn't that what's required nowadays to make a living in outdoor photography - unless your lead workshops tours. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message -

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread kwaller
I still like Velvia. You live in a drab little world Jack. ;-) Most all the pro outdoor photogs used velvia before the digital age. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT - Online critics

Re: Yellow Tang

2012-03-15 Thread kwaller
Nice capture. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Yellow Tang http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15292672size=md Comments are welcome. Dan Matyola

Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Doug Brewer
On 3/15/12 7:42 PM, Bob W wrote: I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more...

Re: GESO spcecdt (going a bit OT)

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 3/15/2012 6:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, Larry. I remember you talking about him a bit when I was there visiting. It was obvious you had great respect and affection for the man. Thanks Walt, Bruce, Paul,

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Doug Brewer
On 3/15/12 7:47 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: With his salesmanship skills, even I could make a comfortable living at photography. Isn't that what's required nowadays to make a living in outdoor photography - unless your lead workshops tours. that's not limited to outdoor photography. --

Re: GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/14/12

2012-03-15 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 3/15/2012 6:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, At the risk of wearing everyone out with GESOs and PESOs, I thought I'd post some shots I grabbed this afternoon and evening. All but one of them are sunsets, and one is a bw landscape.

Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-15 Thread Tom C
A whlie back I becames aware that he had sold a photograph of his for $ 1 million. This link http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2int_new=44121 mentions it but I couldn't find an internet link to the image itself. It was a very well executed image, but $1 million ? Kenneth Waller

RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...

2012-03-15 Thread Bob W
I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank

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