Quoting John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
Thunderbird started acting stupid a couple of days ago.
My Thunderbird layout:
Folder Pane | Thread Pane
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Message Pane
Folder Pane shows local folders - Usually has inbox selected
Thread Pane shows all the messages
I've been thinking about it lately, been wanting to do embedded stuff since
about 20 years ago and never quite got around to it. I did some dabbling with
DSP stuff at work several years ago which was interesting and I've had projects
since then which would have been much simpler with a micro.
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knarftheria...@gmail.com
The substance called rubber got its name because when rubbed on paper,
pencil and ink marks disappeared.
before rubbers people used bread to satisfy their erasing needs
So in fact your
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Excellent gallery, Bob. Very different from Christine's, with the same
wanderings.
Thanks!
In the next week or two I may be getting to pix of our day in York.
Me too, although there aren't many good
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/07/windy-days.html
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Love this one. One can feel the weather here.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:27 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
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http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/07/windy-days.html
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IR works well for this subject
Dave
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/07/24/gateway-arch-in-infrared
Still with the vacation photos here... It was 110F in the shade when we
visited the Gateway arch and
Well done. Good motion blur or as we say on the PDML, good Frank.
Dave
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
There was a lot of rain to race there in Chester, too.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162874size=lg
Comments always appreciated!
Rick
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I've got a bunch of pictures that I've processed in LR4. I'd like to make
the edits available to a friend using an older version of lightroom, and who
already has the raw files. Is this even possible?
Down at the bottom
On 7/21/2012 9:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16148893size=lg
Cute photo, Paul.
Mark
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Must be a mailman - neither rain nor snow :-)
Nice scene and fun shot.
Mark
On 7/17/2012 9:37 PM, frank theriault wrote:
I went to a birthday picnic party at a local beach.
It rained.
It rained hard.
But this fellow partier decided that he'd carry on regardless:
Comes down to money from tickets and gift shops. And a bit of
superstition. UV is just not a practical concern.
Most revealing ... http://goo.gl/vdxl8
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I like that a lot, Rick.
BTW, is Waltons a pub?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
There was a lot of rain to race there in Chester, too.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162874size=lg
Comments always appreciated!
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Don Guthrie
Paul, a very pretty photo and a captured moment in growing up..Joe
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16148893size=lg
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Rick, I like it, Joe
There was a lot of rain to race there in Chester, too.
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Comes down to money from tickets and gift shops. And a bit of
superstition. UV is just not a practical concern.
Most revealing ... http://goo.gl/vdxl8
I always assumed flash was banned because it's f*cking inconsiderate
to other people trying to view the art.
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I lover the feeling of desolation. Great composition.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:27 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
p...@alunfoto.no wrote:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/07/windy-days.html
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Frank, this would be a good postcard photo. Nice photo...Joe
I went to a birthday picnic party at a local beach.
It rained.
It rained hard.
But this fellow partier decided that he'd carry on regardless:
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/the-dedicated-picnicker.html
;-)
(check
Bob, I did enjoy looking at your photos , Joe
We were visited by wondrous people from a far land over the Big Water. They
came in friendship, bearing trade goods from the City of Winds, which we
accepted humbly and with thanks.
We raised them up as gods over us, and exalted them, and gave
Was advised by a Hearst's Castle tour guide that flash was banned due to it's
continuous used actually leaching color from tapestries and certain other
(unidentified) art work materials.
Jack Davis
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
Quite lovely, soothing, and somewhat cooling on a very hot day.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos
of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New
When I was in the 8th grade, I heard an example about a museum guard
who was telling the visitors that a certain item was 4008 years old.
Somebody asked him about how he knew it so exactly. His answer was:
I started working here 8 years ago, and then they told me that that
item was 4 thousand
Thanks Steven. Yes these are salt of the earth kind of people. There
was some contoversy about the TaTas name but after they saw how much
money they raised it will be an annual event.
Message: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:48:41 -0400
From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
To:
There are far too many 'phone cameras in use these days to allow there
unrestricted use. As Mark R. theorized, the flash would be a huge irritant in
many situations.
Jack Davis
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
http://www.photolightimages.com/
Oh the latter, Larry. Which caused chagrined and bemused looks from
people who insisted they wanted to see it.
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:55:56 -0700
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
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Subject: Re: PESO - Loyal Kitsch, Message-ID:
That does give a great look to the photos, Mark. Memo to self check
which unused cameras in th closet cn be converted to IR
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:38:49 -0400
From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
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Subject: GESO - Gateway Arch In
Actually I don't think I did know that. But there is very little that is
outside the purview of this group that's for sure.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:59:23 + (UTC)
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Subject: RE:
Very striking.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
That does give a great look to the photos, Mark. Memo to self check which
unused cameras in th closet cn be converted to IR
Message: 2
I've been to at least one museum where they were pretty upfront about
the copyright motive: photography was permitted but you had to promise
not to publish the photos you took (and not block anybody else's path
with your tripod). I don't recall whether flash was permitted or not.
In the
on 2012-07-24 21:34 John Sessoms wrote
After I read an email message in Thunderbird I either drag it into a folder to
save or click the delete button to move it to trash. If I delete it, I should
get the next message waiting in my inbox and display it in the message pane.
In the last couple of
That is a bizarre theory indeed.
In the Kremlin Museum and in the Hermitage we were told photography
was forbidden. Once inside, however, I discovered one could purchase
a photography permit for $10. It was a small badge that I had to wear
on my shirt. They asked however that I not use the
From: dgl...@panix.com (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
OTOH, I've been to museums where they claimed that their reason for
prohibiting photography was that even _available_light_ photography
somehow damaged pigments! Hmph!
-- Glenn
Yes, and if you take a
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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OTOH, I've been to museums where they claimed that their reason for
prohibiting photography was that even _available_light_ photography
somehow damaged pigments! Hmph!
there are many materials and pigments which are sensitive to various
different types and intensities of light, including daylight and flash, so a
blanket ban on flash photography makes a good deal of sense to me, even
without taking into consideration how bloody annoying it is for other
viewers.
Thanks, I'm glad
B
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Bob, I did enjoy looking at your photos , Joe
We were visited by wondrous people
That was soul... not soil. I need new glasses. :)
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
From: dgl...@panix.com (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
OTOH, I've been to museums where they claimed that their reason for
prohibiting photography was that even _available_light_
Here is the last, all gone till next year. Thoughts, Like, Dislike..Thanks Joe
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16150192 This one
photographed with a Pentax 85mm Soft
Focus lens at wide open and a Pentax AF-540 FGZ on camera with a home
made flash modifier from a coffee can.
IOW, keep your soil to yourself...please!!
J ;-)
Jack Davis
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http://www.photolightimages.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012
That is a widespread misinformation. People who work in galleries
museums have been told that by their predecessors who got it from their
predecessors and never really considered if it actually makes sense or
has any basis in fact. It's one of those urban legend things like the
alligators
Thanks, Bruce!
Not a pub, unfortunately; a clothing store.
Rick
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Racing the Rain
I
Thanks, Joe!
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Racing the Rain
Rick, I like it, Joe
There was a lot of rain to race there in
That is a widespread misinformation. People who work in galleries
museums have been told that by their predecessors who got it from their
predecessors and never really considered if it actually makes sense or
has any basis in fact. It's one of those urban legend things like the
alligators
Jostein, this one and the previous (Lofoten) are excellent in every way.
I'm trying not to slide into jealous hatred...
Cheers,
Rick
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I like the one through the window grate Purdy Mill Lindsay very much.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
Finally got some of the day trip photos to Lindsay loaded on photo dot net
The message I'm currently reading has a blue bar highlighting it in the
thread pane. When I delete that message, the next message should become
highlighted and the text appear in the message pane. That's how it
worked in Netscape and that's how it's always worked since I switched to
From: Tom C
From: dgl...@panix.com (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
OTOH, I've been to museums where they claimed that their reason for
prohibiting photography was that even _available_light_ photography
somehow damaged pigments! Hmph!
-- Glenn
Yes, and if you
Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered on a pine
tree. Something interesting had gotten their attention and they gazed at it
for several minutes.
K20D, 300mm SMC FA, 1/500 @f8.0, ISO 400
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16175692
Comments appreciated.
Larry -
Instead of attacking the problem from the catalog end, how about going
at it from the image end and not even using the raw files you've given
him. You could export the edited images as TIFFs or PSDs or...if you
want to keep using raw, save the metadata and previews to your files so
Way cool!! Still trying to figure out the POV on the first one. ; ]
-p
On 7/24/2012 8:38 PM, Mark C wrote:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/07/24/gateway-arch-in-infrared
Still with the vacation photos here... It was 110F in the shade when we
visited the Gateway arch
Photographer charged
http://music.yahoo.com/news/bieber-paparazzo-faces-criminal-charges-pursuit-190630052.html
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Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered on a
pine tree. Something interesting had gotten their attention and they
gazed at it for several minutes.
K20D, 300mm SMC FA,
Ken, reminds me of the movie The Birds. Joe
Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered
on a pine tree. Something interesting had gotten their attention and
they gazed at it for several minutes.
K20D, 300mm SMC FA, 1/500 @f8.0, ISO 400
Sorry to do this to you, Chris, but the one I like best is Karin's shot of
the tea table, clotted cream or not. It is in some way quintessentially
English while being something you rarely see in England any more. I think
the last time I saw anything like that for real was in my Granny's house in
Quoting jn289 jn...@verizon.net:
Photographer charged
http://music.yahoo.com/news/bieber-paparazzo-faces-criminal-charges-pursuit-190630052.html
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On 7/25/2012 5:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Way cool!! Still trying to figure out the POV on the first one. ; ]
-p
Thanks Paul - The first shot was taken with my back to the inside edge
of the arch. It is triangular in shape and I was leaning against the
inner apex of the triangle looking
on 2012-07-25 13:09 John Sessoms wrote
What's started happening is the next message is briefly (couple of seconds?)
highlighted and then no messages are highlighted. The next message is still
there, but no message is selected.
i haven't seen that behavior at all but it does sound like
On 7/24/2012 11:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Mark,
Good pictures, but I don't know what the 1st one is.
The IR producing white trees really makes those arch images different.
Regards, Bob S.
Thanks, Bob - I wasn't sure how the IR would look with burnished metal,
but they came out OK. For the
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 07:58:51AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote:
Quoting jn289 jn...@verizon.net:
Photographer charged
http://music.yahoo.com/news/bieber-paparazzo-faces-criminal-charges-pursuit-190630052.html
Good.
I agree.
(Not to mention the fact that no punishment is too
I bought my wife a new car; one year ago I bought one for me. I am
like a kid in a toy store!!
Walt
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So that is what they call a group of crows. I never knew.
Good shot, Ken.
Walt
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Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered on a pine
tree. Something interesting had gotten their attention and they gazed at
Interesting grouping and the pattern of the needles makes it something special.
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered on a pine
tree.
Spectacular! Love these.
Paul
On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Way cool!! Still trying to figure out the POV on the first one. ; ]
-p
On 7/24/2012 8:38 PM, Mark C wrote:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/07/24/gateway-arch-in-infrared
Still
A nice composition. Well done.
Paul
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wrote:
Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered on a pine
tree. Something interesting had gotten their attention and they gazed at it
for several minutes.
I remember some article about ultra long telephoto - that's way back,
in the age of *paper* photo magazines. I've already searched but the
paper seems to be lost. I also tried the web - lots of articles about
diy lenses but no one about projecting the image of a tele in an
inverted wide angle.
lol ... I hope you enjoy your wife's new car! ;-)
I bought myself a new (old) car in April. It makes me smile every time
I get into it. :-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/7361641262/lightbox
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
I bought my wife a
I posted a few of this fellow and his cohorts a while ago but I missed this one
first time through:
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/street-corner-preacher.html?m=1
You might think it's overly busy, but that's kind of the point.
Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
Cheers,
frank
Joe,
Like the second one best.
The blur on the 1st is too much.
The clarity of the 3rd turns it into a mundane photo.
Regards, Bob S.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:26 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
Here is the last, all gone till next year. Thoughts, Like, Dislike..Thanks
Joe
This is one of my favorites--PDML attitude!
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChristineDarrel1/Housesteads/slides/_IGP1496.html
The Girls! Love it!
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChristineDarrel1/CoastalRoute/slides/_IGP1555.html
Funny caption and a good close up, Karin!
Congrats, Larry! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I've got another photo on a friend's album cover. Granted, the pay was just
photo credit and a CD, but the musicians are awesome.
Unfortunately, my iMac seems to have stopped reading
Thanks, amark. In my life, friends and family moan and groan when they see the
camera. You hang out with PDMLers and they just ignore you and carry on. And
when you're ignoring them, they're taking pictures of you. Lots of fun!
Cheers, Christine
On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Mark C
Very pretty! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos
of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New
Hampshire in June:
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:38:49 -0400
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I prefer the soft focus for both mood and composition! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:26 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
Here is the last, all gone till next year. Thoughts, Like, Dislike..Thanks Joe
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16150192 This one photographed
Fun!Cheers, Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that a lot, Rick.
BTW, is Waltons a pub?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
There was a lot of rain to race there in Chester, too.
Wonderful! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:36 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
Love this one. One can feel the weather here.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:27 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
p...@alunfoto.no wrote:
You caught the crows at just the right moment there. Great fun. Cheers,
Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Shot this murder of crows (Corvus brachyhynchos), as they gathered on a pine
tree. Something interesting had gotten their attention and they gazed
I hadn't done a BW in a while. This seemed to lend itself to such a
rendering.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pines.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F 70-210 f4.0~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Don't lose heart, they might want to
My home computer is now broken, probably beyond repair. So my list
activity will be paused until this its taken care of...
/sigh/
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Ouch. Sorry to hear, but now you are presented with the opportunity to
upgrade! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
My home computer is now broken, probably beyond repair. So my list activity
will be paused until this its taken care
Thanks, Dave! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:07 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
well done
Dave
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
wrote:
Hi Everyone:
Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers.
Something in the Theraultian vein. At least I'd like to think this is
as good as some of Frank;s street shots, though I have to admit while
the blur is there, the tilt is a bit lacking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20howhotthishot.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F
Fascinating composition. Centered yet it fits very nicely. Thumbs up!
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On July 25, 2012 11:27:23 AM AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/07/windy-days.html
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I sincerely wish you would shoot more like this, Frank. I find this an
excellent picture, busy but clean with thought provoking message to the viewer.
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On July 26, 2012 5:16:50 AM knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, I will get me a modern cpu to speed up things accordingly. But
it will be second time in just a few months. Last time I ended up
moving to windows 7 keeping the hardware intact. This time this is
pretty darn comprehensive...
On July 26, 2012 6:25:43 AM Christine Aguila
I like this idea. The light grass in the foreground tends to draw my
eye from the tree trunks though. Maybe you could darken the grass some
and increase the mid-tone contrast to give the tree trunks a little more
separation.
-p
On 7/25/2012 10:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I hadn't done a BW
On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:11 PM, John Francis wrote:
John, you've got to fix that excess verbiage. Let me go all Strunk White
on your writing.
(Not to mention the fact that no punishment is too extreme for anyone
who conspires to inflict images of Justin Bieber on anyone who is
(a) male
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