Re: GESO: Zombie Walk through Boston

I wasn't dressed up, but I did wear my expedition hat. :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethpeardonprods/3464594396/ On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: > Yikes.  That's a wild set, David!  Were you a zombie photog...? > > -c > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pd

GESO: Zombie Walk through Boston

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157624039413171/ I attended a Zombie March through downtown Boston yesterday. It was tons of fun, and highly recommended if there is one in your area. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: OT: help with a couple of Windows/dos commands I've forgotten and other crap

You can't get to DOS in Windows. You can open a command line window by typing CMD in the Run from the Start button. Windows no longer runs on top of DOS. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Ok, so I lost a whole Sh*tload of mail due to some rather forced Netscape > update...

Re: You think you K10 is loud

Whoosh! On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:34 PM, eckinator wrote: > 2010/5/30 Godfrey DiGiorgi : >> >> But do they have breech locks? ;-) > > You mean the little open/close thingy for the SD card slot? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: You think you K10 is loud

Definitely analog. Fully manual. On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: > At 4:31 PM -0700 5/29/10, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote: >> >> You should hear the rebel cannons folks are shooting at roaring camp. >>  Though the union ones are just as loud. > > Are they Canon digital reb

Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

Turn on the power on dust shake and that should help with most loose dust. Unless the wind is constantly blowing dust and sand around, you'll be able to change lenses with little problem. If you use good lens discipline you should be okay. Do you really want to miss a shot because you spent 5 mi

Re: PESO: Shooting Apartments

Watch your verticals. Have you checked out http://photographyforrealestate.net/ Lots of good information for shooting houses. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:22 AM, William Robb wrote: > A month or so ago I started a project to shoot a friend's apartment. > At some point this will become a GESO, but

GESO: Lightning!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157624026093043/ Last night we had some pretty intense weather with the heat and very fast moving storms that passed through. I got my very first lightning shots from this! -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pe

Re: software misfeature of the K-x

Mirror, shutter, and aperture control are not mechanically linked in modern dSLRs. They are separately actuated using servos. They are most likely setup that way because the timing chain is already setup and it's much easier to tell the camera to actuate 3 times, than to reprogram the timing chai

Re: PESO: Sad scene

ous sign to the effect that the area is under > surveillance and misdeeds will be reported to the appropriate > authorities. > > If that doesn't work I'd sick Doug Brewer and William Robb on them. > > Tom C. > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM, David Parsons > wr

PESO: Sad scene

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4597042626/ This part of this stream runs behind a supermarket, so it's not uncommon to see trash at this spot, but this is the worst that I've seen. I'm not sure if it's bums or teenagers that are doing this. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaph

PESO: Fast Squirrel

I caught this little bugger sneaking into my trash can, so I got him back and sneaked up on him and tapped the can to spook him. :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4587752624/ -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: Tomorrow's video stream

You've got an internet connection for the stream, why not use the mailing list? Open up your webmail and answer questions as they come in. Have everyone use a designated prefix like SHOW:. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:40 AM, wrote: > Cotty suggested text-messaging questions to the group at the ga

Re: PESO - Swan

The picture is more of a black & grey, than B&W. I'm not sure if it looks underexposed, or if the levels need to be adjusted. There is also an odd dark halo along the back of the head and neck. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:38 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so b

Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

That's not really surprising if you understand how camo works. It's not really designed to hide you, it's designed to break up your pattern while you are moving so it's harder to determine your shape. You see a moving form, but not a distinct outline. It's similar to how the stripes on a zebra wo

Re: Egypt final uploads

you do what you can with what you are given. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 3 May 2010 20:50, David Parsons wrote: >> I trailed off here for a couple days so I didn't flood the group with >> my updates, but I've got all my Egypt pictures uploaded.

Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010 at 6:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: David Parsons >> >> I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do >> start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is >> to do. They seem to know what they are talking a

PESO: Lobster Floats

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4575781282/in/set-72157623860749481/ I went with friends to Rockport, Ma, to take pictures in this quintessential New England fishing town. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net htt

Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is to do. They seem to know what they are talking about, it shouldn't be too difficult for them. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > http://forums.

Egypt final uploads

I trailed off here for a couple days so I didn't flood the group with my updates, but I've got all my Egypt pictures uploaded. Everyone should go at least once in their life. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/ And per Miserere's challenge, here are my top 10 from all

Re: Carrying a monopd

I use the side loop on my AW200 Sling bag to store my monopod. Keeps it nicely out of the way, and always accessible. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I went for a walk in the woods after work tonight.  Being around sunset it > was getting dark, especially under the trees an

OT: Replacement Windows

Not photography related but funny as anything.  I had to pass this on. REPLACEMENT WINDOWS Last year I replaced all the windows in my house with that expensive double-pane energy efficient kind, and today, I got a call from the contractor who installed them. He was complaining that the work had be

Re: GESO - Egypt day 1

I accept your challenge, and will post the list of 10 when I have uploaded all the pictures from the trip. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Miserere wrote: >>> From: David Parsons >>> Subject: GESO - Egypt day 1 >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >

GESO - Egypt day 2 - was Egypt day 1

Updated with day 2. These ones are from Edfu temple and Kom Ombo, both along the Nile. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/ On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, David Parsons wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/ > > We had a g

Re: K-7 replacement?

How hard is it for people to focus? How much does your focus change when shooting a burst? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2010-04-27 14:54, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> FPS would probably be easier to implement than AF changes, the hardware >> changes there are much more

Re: GESO - Egypt day 1

I don't normally shoot sunsets, but the smog made them pretty impressive. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bob W wrote: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/ >> >> We had a great time in Egypt with several of my wife's >> coworkers.  The first day was in Luxor with

GESO - Egypt day 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/ We had a great time in Egypt with several of my wife's coworkers. The first day was in Luxor with a dawn balloon ride, followed by the Vally of the Kings, then Karnak and Lusor temples. More to come each day. -- Aloha Photographer

Re: Just got my WP site hacked!!!!!!

Pommes Frites. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 22 April 2010 18:11, CheekyGeek wrote: >> Sounds like you had a 777 (world writable) folder in there somewhere? >> (Probably for uploads) >> This WILL be found by spammers, Belgians, and other undesirables. >> (I KID, I KID!) >

Re: Is photography over?

I don't think that they really think that photography is over, they aren't sure if it's really art. IMO, the fact that they are taking the time to ask the question means that they are concerned about the status of photography in their world. Photography is many things to many people, and most of

Re: PDML Photo Annual has its own Facebook page

You could become a fan (or like, or whatever they've changed it to), and post the details on their wall. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Miserere wrote: > >>No mention of the exhibit? Or are you waiting for Dank to add us to >>the website? I won't announce anything on my we

Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

"Oh my" /Sulu On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Miserere wrote: > I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I > just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and > "inept". > > So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he > had

Re: Ultra-wide zooms

Monday, 12 April 2010 11:29 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Ultra-wide zooms > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:17 PM, David Parsons > wrote: >> Please repeat after me:  There is no such thing as equivalent focal > length! >> >> They are APS-C len

Re: Ultra-wide zooms

There are two common crops for dSLRs as compared to FF SLR, 1.5 (Nikon and Pentax) and 1.6 (Canon). Canon has a 1.3 crop on some of their pro bodies. P&S sensors are a whole other barrel of fish and there are many sizes, but they don't correlate because the lenses are not interchangeable. On Mon

GESO - Prime Lens Sunday

I went out with several local shooters on Sunday for a Prime Lens walkabout. The premise is that you use a prime (or one focal length of a zoom), and shoot with that the entire time. I used my A50 f/2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623711330929/ -- Aloha Photographer Photobl

Re: Ultra-wide zooms

Please repeat after me: There is no such thing as equivalent focal length! They are APS-C lenses and the focal lengths are as marked. Super wide angle lenses. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: > Bong Manayon wrote: >> >> Thinking of ... >> >> 1. Pentax DA 12-24 >> 2. Sigma 1

Re: matte or glossy

I print as much as possible on matte paper, especially if I'm putting it on my wall or submitting it for competition. I don't print at home, so I use the matte option all the time, except at Walgreens. For some silly reason they don't print matte in-store. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Larry

Re: Loukas' Diner

Looks like a nice diner to me. They don't have to be run-down shacks. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:49 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > Subject: PESO: Loukas' Diner > > >> Another in my series of Jersey diners.  This is one that is still very >> ac

Re: Is there a quick and easy test for the 16-50 decentering problem?

Are you planning on taking lots of pictures of brick walls? I would try shooting with the lens for a while under normal conditions and investigate if you see a consistent problem. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Would it be something like take a picture of a flat surface (br

Re: OT - iPad: Will It Blend?

I'd be really impressed if that blender can turn the solid aluminum back cover to dust like that. :) On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Cotty wrote: >> >> Fanboys should be able to laugh at themselves... >> >>

Re: PDML Photo Annual 2010: Uploading now

Nah, it sounds like a great excuse for a Boston get-together. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Miserere wrote: >> >> On 7 April 2010 10:51, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> >>> OK, the 2010 PDML book is in the can, as they say. It's uploading to >>> Blurb as I write this (should be d

PESO - Pine cones

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4503229610/ I took the much maligned Takumar (Bayonet) 135 f/2.5 to a local cemetery after having the lens on a shelf for about a year. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://

Re: K-7 - yet another bug

Can the K-7 go past 30 second exposures in any mode other than Bulb? 2010/4/7 Ralf R. Radermacher : > I've noted some particularly odd behaviour of my K-7, lately, and I'm > wondering if this has started with the latest firmware update as I'd > certainly have noticed if it had been there before. H

Boston Area photo show and sale

The Photographic Historical Society of New England is having their semi-annual show and sale on Apr 17-18 in Wakefield, Ma. This is a great show to go to if you are looking to buy or sell any kind of photographic equipment and media. Items range from basic wood 8x10 view cameras to current gear,

Re: Potential Advice

Lightroom is as much, if not more, about organization and metadata as is it about processing. I use the keywording feature very extensively. It's not simply a photo editing package. It's kind of like Bridge++, with editing tools designed for photographers, not graphic artists. The very best feat

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

I didn't see a question in your first post. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I only read as far as about half of your first sentence. I didn't need to > read further as it was obvious you had missed the point of the question. > > Jack > > --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: Sigma 10-20 mm lens

It certainly is a very distinctive lens. People tend to either love it or hate it. I use mine for getting really close to subjects and using the distortion creatively. It doesn't distort the same way a fish does, as it will keep lines straight. In that way it can distort more than a fish does i

Re: Copyright?

If you can do it in a single step or process that can handle all of your pictures, why not do them all in a big batch? Ultimately, it's up to you which works better with your workflow. On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: paul stenquist >> >> That should read "I can't imag

Re: Copyright?

My default metadata has copyright information in it when I import into Lightroom. You can add the information to all of your files, but there is no way to prevent anyone from stripping out metadata when it is online. The work is automatically protected when it is created, so there is not a legal

PESO - Easter Egg Hunt

We had some friends over yesterday for an early Easter dinner, and I got a nice panning shot of one of the kids running while looking for hidden easter eggs. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4489807466/ -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: PITA: Shutter vs Image Count Revisited

a) What software are you using? I use Lightroom, and it will do a rename of the files on import. b) Is your camera set to continuous filenames, or to reset. On my K100DS, when I switch cards, it keeps track with no problems (I have mine set to continuous). On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:02 AM, ecki

Re: OT: New balls please! Best-selling photographer dies

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tennis+girl+poster On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:51 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2010, at 4:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> On 4/2/2010 1:30 PM, Bob W wrote: >>> This guy took the shot that fuels every photographer's fantasy... >>> >>>

Re: A PESO for prisoner fans

Nope. Sets, Collections and Groups are what you can do to your pictures. Favoriting and Galleries are what others can do to your pictures. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Is there a way on flickr to mark one of your own photos as a favorite? -- Aloha Photographer Photoblo

PESO - Milton Lower Falls Dam

With the heavy rains that the northeast got (again), March of 2010 is the wettest March on record here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4479973391/in/set-72157603603609395/ There are 8 pictures in the set from yesterday, and incidentally, the beginning of the set includes some of the very

Re: A Crazy Idea

If you say so. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:31 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "David Parsons" > Subject: Re: A Crazy Idea > > > >> It's always the photographer, > > Well, I suppose we can agree to disagree on this one. &g

Re: A Crazy Idea

Just because a master can make a great picture with any camera, doesn't mean that they have to limit themselves to cheap equipment. That Ansel Adams used what he did, does not detract from the pictures that he made. It's always the photographer, and besides that he was as good (if not better) of a

Re: GESO 2010 - A Fresh Dozen - GDG

Godfrey, You have some really nice images there. The only minor nitpick I have is that the vignetting on some of them detracts and pulls me out of the viewing experience. David On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Not really a GESO, but a bunch of new photos ... > > I've

Re: A Crazy Idea

For me, my wife is a much tighter control than my pocket ever could be. :}~ On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:50 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > Rob Studdert wrote: >> On 31/03/2010, Brian Walters wrote: >> >> > Yes - I discovered his blog a few months back - very refreshing approach >> > and he does

Re: GESO: Psychedelic Boston

These are from the storm 2 weeks ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4443371958/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4443394520/ I plan on checking a couple of local dams and streams today or tomorrow. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:05 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > More fun than making prin

Re: Peso Union SS number 2

I'd try to get a shot square on to the wall. The bricks give away that you are shooting at an angle. If you are going to center the cross and block at the top, you may as well be shooting straight on. I also agree with Christine about trying to get inside to document and explore. Abandoned buil

Re: Spring finally arrives in Nebraska

This should help: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4476560211/sizes/t/ :}~ On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I'd like this one more if I didn't have to scroll to see it all.. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original M

Re: K20D shooting Magenta images with flash

What is your light source? On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > With the K20, and since I got one recently, a K-7, a single or a series of > shots within a string of shots, outdoors, same light, no flash, seconds > apart in time, I'll get magenta (large White Balance shift)

Re: K20D shooting Magenta images with flash

Can you put some examples online for us to look at? Where you bouncing the flashes? Where you using any modifiers on the flashes? What was you WB set to? On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:24 PM, <27...@comcast.net> wrote: > Has anyone had any trouble with their digital bodies images over magenta. > To

Re: question for the brits American to English translation

That has been my experience in NYC, very nice people and willing to give directions if you ask, even the Subway attendants. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:00 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > As a former New Yorker, I have to say that the folks in the big city  are > generally very friendly and will go ou

Re: PESO: Yanna

I'd like it better if her head wasn't dead center in the frame. Since she's looking to the right, I'd crop off the left side of the frame to about her hair, or have more negative space to the right to balance it out. You've got nice texture and color in the background, so it's not like you'd have

Re: elements on a mac and a pc?

Download the OSX version and use the license for that version and don't use the PC version. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Cory Waters wrote: > Found the EULA online... doesn't look good: > "2.10 Dual Boot Platform. The Software is licensed for use on a specific > operating system platform. You

Re: Where to buy a cormorant?

How about this: http://www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/gifts/friends/birds/cormorant-plastic-animals-birds-f616.htm On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > About a year ago (possibly longer) someone posted a link to a web site > where you could buy a small, plastic cormorant figurine f

Re: pano from video?

Well, if you use Windows Movie Maker, you can create jpeg files from whichever frame you like. It won't pull every nth frame, but it is pretty easy to simply pause and save the frames that have enough overlap. I don't think you'd really want an app pulling frames arbitrarily. On Thu, Mar 25, 201

Re: PESO Anzac pano

The results are very good for handheld at night. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 26/03/2010, David Parsons wrote: >> I assume you shot on a tripod.  If so, why the high ISO and low >> shutter speed?  Noise would have been much less off a problem at the

Re: PESO Anzac pano

I assume you shot on a tripod. If so, why the high ISO and low shutter speed? Noise would have been much less off a problem at the base ISO and a longer exposure. That said, it looks great. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > Hi Team, > > I'm flat out at the moment, hardly t

Re: PESO A400 Sparrow

The f/number is a ratio of the focal length to the diameter of the aperture opening. The 400 at f/8, has an opening of 50mm (The actual opening may not be 50mm, depending on where in the lens the aperture is placed). It has nothing to do with the sensor or film size. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:18

PESO - Rose Kennedy Greenway, Boston

Here's a shot from the photowalk with Mark Roberts and Miserere on Saturday in Boston. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4454802258/ -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: question for the brits American to English translation

Boston Legal? On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > I think they've become traumatized by outbreaks of "Mad Cow" disease. But > look at Will Shatner. On TV*, he extols it as a better way of coping with > the day's tribulations. > > :-) > > * at the moment, I cannot recall th

Re: PESO: 4 in 1 Lions

>I used the color replacement tool to brown the grass and make it look more >"natural", but am not quite easy with the "ethics" of >that. If your exhibition doesn't have a prohibition on editing, I don't see why there would be an ethical consideration. I think Lions 1 is the best one. The 8x10

Re: PDML Boston this Saturday, March 20

What are you, a birther? :) On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 23 March 2010 03:00, David Parsons wrote: >> It's always the way.  I usually go by Alohadave (I was born and later >> stationed in Hawaii) > > I think we'll need to see your bi

Re: PDML Exhibit participants

He is based in Wisconsin, IIRC. Not too far, depending on where in the state he is. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > F.A.B. > > Mike Johnston is sort of near Chicago, isn't he? Does he know about the > show? > > D > > > > Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> OK, the curator has made he

Re: PDML Boston this Saturday, March 20

This seems appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lge2_H_8IQ :) On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:32 AM, David Mann wrote: > Hi, Dave, I'm Dave.  And that's Dave over there. > > Reminds me a bit of the "Bruce" sketch... > > Dave > > On Mar 23, 2010, a

Re: PDML Boston this Saturday, March 20

It's always the way.  I usually go by Alohadave (I was born and later stationed in Hawaii) online if that helps keeps things straight. Thanks for the welcome everyone, On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:41 AM, David Savage wrote: > On 23/03/2010, Brian Walters wrote: >> Welcome, although adding another

Re: PDML Boston this Saturday, March 20

Hi everyone, this is my first post on PDML.  I was the other Pentaxian in attendance.  This was actually my second time out with Mark and Miserere. I've lived in/around Boston for 9 years and Saturday was my first time in Bromfield Camera.  The day was worth it just for that.  Also, I had a look a

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