frank theriault wrote on 05.04.05 1:56:
Japan is a county of 130,000,000 people. It's population is largely
affluent. It's population seems to love the latest in high-tech
gizmos, and I'm thinking that DSLR's are included therein.
That's true. What is interesting however, from what I've read
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Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
You don't even have the intellectual rigour to distinguish between a
country and a region, and you claim that the Japanese domestic market
doesn't account for a lot of any of the manufacture's total
Graywolf wrote:
I would wager that was before taxes, and that there was a damn good tax
advantage doing it that way.
graywolf
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mike wilson wrote:
British Leyland (Rover) made the original mini from 1959
William Robb wrote:
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Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
British Leyland (Rover) made the original mini from 1959 to about
1999. For the first thirty years thay made an average 10/- (50p - $1)
loss on every one. But that's just us
frank theriault wrote:
Save yer money and buy a Holga! You don't even have to shake that
camera to get blur. LOL
Is my Canomatic holgish enough? :D
http://www.thefilebin.com/userfiles/alkos/canonmatic/44_10.jpg
http://www.thefilebin.com/userfiles/alkos/canonmatic/44_13.jpg
frank theriault wrote:
Save yer money and buy a Holga! You don't even have to shake that
camera to get blur. LOL
Is my Canomatic holgish enough? :D
http://www.thefilebin.com/userfiles/alkos/canonmatic/44_10.jpg
http://www.thefilebin.com/userfiles/alkos/canonmatic/44_13.jpg
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From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
If I put as much effort into this as you seem to, I am sure I could prove
that Canon is about to go under. All one needs to do is identify one
One of the things to consider is that the Japanese market is extremely
condensed. All those people live in an area about the size of California. It
makes distribution easier. It make for concentrated niche markets. Only now
with the internet are dealers now beginning to be able to concentrate
Yes, I understand those Limies are not very smart. Sort of like those folks in
Seattle. They don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain.
Also I don't think they have ever adjusted to the loss of their empire where
they could tax local items to the point that it was cheaper to order a bus
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Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
The *ist DS is certainly holding it's own, so it seems. I know it
said that Canon has so many DSLR models out that no one of theirs is
ahead, but that likely they sell the most total DSLR's
, 2005 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
The *ist DS is certainly holding it's own, so it seems. I know it
said that Canon has so many DSLR models out that no one of theirs is
ahead, but that likely they sell the most total DSLR's, but
none-the-less, Pentax seems to be quite in the fray
it's not even 3rd, if you go and read your sales figures.
Herb...
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:57 AM
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Herb, really!
Only on this list could you find somebody who
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 3, 2005 3:55 PM, jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.photoethnography.com/blog/2005/02/news-recent-top-five-camera-sales-in.html
The KM sales figures may just reflect pent-up demand, and will likely drop.
The *ist DS is certainly
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Herb, really!
Only on this list could you find somebody who will take a piece of good
news about Pentax, and find a way to negate
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From: John Forbes
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
Herb, really!
Only on this list could you find somebody who will take a piece of good
news about Pentax, and find a way to negate it.
I always get a kick out of the comparative sales numbers and the immedieate
On Apr 4, 2005 4:57 AM, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or is it because there is a new breed of film
photographers, busily buying up old MXen etc, at bargain prices and then
paying over the odds for lenses to go with them? Possibly, but I don't
think so.
I wouldn't discount that too
On 4/4/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:
The EU, for instance, is not a country.
That's what they tell you John ;-)
Cheers,
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William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: John Forbes
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
Herb, really!
Only on this list could you find somebody who will take a piece of
good news about Pentax, and find a way to negate it.
I always get a kick out of the comparative sales numbers
I only follow Pentax camera prices, and not too avidly. It's my
impression that prices have fallen in the last year, in the UK at any
rate. The MX in particular is now much cheaper than it was, and very few
cameras command more than £100 (just the LX, MZ-S, and PZ1-P).
However, I would
John Forbes wrote:
But as a result of buying a DSLR, and therefore more lenses, I now have
a cupboardful of film SLRs, bought as part of job lots which contained
lenses I wanted. I'm afraid to sell them in case I create a glut, and
destroy the market. :-)
You can always give them away and
I would wager that was before taxes, and that there was a damn good tax
advantage doing it that way.
graywolf
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mike wilson wrote:
British Leyland (Rover) made the original mini from 1959 to about 1999.
Sadly, one seldom finds a bargain LX lurking unnoticed in a job lot, and
anyway, it's not the equipment that makes a photographer Theriaultian.
It's the man, and the philosophy. You've got to renounce bourgeoisisme.
Le bourgeoisisme est la fin des mouvements crateurs de lesprit.
John
On
Don't wager too much.
There is never an advantage to making losses, even if you can offset them
against tax on profits elsewhere. Where you are trading internationally,
and can control transfer prices, it is usually advantageous to arrange to
make a loss in a high-tax country and a profit
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From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
British Leyland (Rover) made the original mini from 1959 to about 1999.
For the first thirty years thay made an average 10/- (50p - $1) loss on
every one. But that's just us.
And if they had tripled
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From: Graywolf
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
I would wager that was before taxes, and that there was a damn good tax
advantage doing it that way.
Good chance there was some government subsidy money flowing in to offset it
as well.
William Robb
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From: John Forbes
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
In this case, the manufacturers were saddled with a massive,
state-inspired, consolidation of lots of different car companies, fairly
incompetent management; a bloody-minded, unionised work-force
Quoting John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Or is it because there is a new breed of film
photographers, busily buying up old MXen etc, at bargain prices and then
paying over the odds for lenses to go with them?
Maybe...
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On Apr 4, 2005 1:23 PM, alkos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can always give them away and destroy the market :)
(I desperately need a LX, or two, to become more theriaultian :)
Save yer money and buy a Holga! You don't even have to shake that
camera to get blur. LOL
cheers,
frank
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On Apr 4, 2005 4:54 PM, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sadly, one seldom finds a bargain LX lurking unnoticed in a job lot, and
anyway, it's not the equipment that makes a photographer Theriaultian.
It's the man, and the philosophy. You've got to renounce bourgeoisisme.
Le
On Apr 4, 2005 7:09 AM, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So which countries are bigger? Bear in mind I said country, and I was
referring to the market for DSLRs. The EU, for instance, is not a country.
Whatever.
Japan is a county of 130,000,000 people. It's population is largely
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Not being able to make a car that could be driven across town without
breaking probably didn't help things much.
Or serviced by anyone less than a double-jointed circus contortionist ;-)
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:09 AM
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So which countries are bigger? Bear in mind I said country, and I was
referring to the market for DSLRs. The EU, for instance
track and are selling.
Herb
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:13 AM
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I have seen posts that Pentax is selling the istD and istDs as fast as
they can make them
Doing Well in Japan
So which countries are bigger? Bear in mind I said country, and I
was referring to the market for DSLRs. The EU, for instance, is not a
country.
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60-70% of total sales, not just cameras.
Herb...
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:18 PM
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I don't think your figures stack up.
If 60-70% of sales are outside Japan
and Pacific.
Herb
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:09 AM
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So which countries are bigger? Bear in mind I said country, and I was
referring to the market
those that have the money
don't believe the company is on the right track and are selling.
Herb
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:13 AM
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I have seen posts that Pentax
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60-70% of total sales, not just cameras.
Herb...
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:18 PM
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I don't think your figures stack up.
If 60-70
of time left.
Herb...
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From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: DS Doing Well in Japan
You don't even have the intellectual rigour to distinguish between a
country and a region, and you claim
http://www.photoethnography.com/blog/2005/02/news-recent-top-five-camera-sales-in.html
The KM sales figures may just reflect pent-up demand, and will likely drop.
Joe
On Apr 3, 2005 3:55 PM, jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.photoethnography.com/blog/2005/02/news-recent-top-five-camera-sales-in.html
The KM sales figures may just reflect pent-up demand, and will likely drop.
Joe
The *ist DS is certainly holding it's own, so it seems. I know
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