On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:02:54 +0200, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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electronic mementos of their travels. My father in law has a couple of
digital compacts in the _2Mpixel range. He insists on printing the
results at A4 size and proudly showing them to me. They look like out
of
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:05:41 +0200, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
På 17. aug. 2005 kl. 21.39 skrev Joseph Tainter:
Didn´t Pentax plan to introduce a Limited DA-lens in the 50-60mm
range? That would be nice if it has an aperture in the 1.4 area, even
if it was more expensive.
DA 60-70
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:31:54 +0200, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 03:44 PM 8/17/2005, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
16-45, 20-35 and the FAs,* from memory are in that list. I still see no
answer as to the problem with variable aperture lenses.
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Also, the constant-maximum-aperture
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:42:39AM +0200, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Constant aperture zooms are always fast(ish), at least at one end.
Surely the whole point of constant-aperture zooms is that they are
equally fast at both ends of the zoom range, not just at one end?
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:58:46 +0200, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:42:39AM +0200, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Constant aperture zooms are always fast(ish), at least at one end.
Surely the whole point of constant-aperture zooms is that they are
equally fast at
John Francis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:42:39AM +0200, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
Constant aperture zooms are always fast(ish), at least at one end.
Surely the whole point of constant-aperture zooms is that they are
equally fast at both ends of the zoom range, not just at one end?
No,
Surely the whole point of constant-aperture zooms is that they are
equally fast at both ends of the zoom range, not just at one end?
No, the whole point is that the aperture does not change throughout the
zoom range. I'm not sure but I think a non-constant zoom could be
designed that was
Fred wrote:
Surely the whole point of constant-aperture zooms is that they are
equally fast at both ends of the zoom range, not just at one end?
No, the whole point is that the aperture does not change throughout the
zoom range. I'm not sure but I think a non-constant zoom could be
Pentax Canada rep told my retailer that the FA 50/1.4 is now
discontinued and that they won't supply back-orders. Pentax Canada
gets their lenses directly from Japan, so I guess the lens is no
longer produced in Japan.
A new DA 50/1.4 on the way?
Andre
At 10:55 AM 8/17/2005, Andre Langevin wrote:
Pentax Canada rep told my retailer that the FA 50/1.4 is now discontinued
and that they won't supply back-orders. Pentax Canada gets their lenses
directly from Japan, so I guess the lens is no longer produced in Japan.
A new DA 50/1.4 on the way?
Glen wrote:
I'm also tired of all the zooms which don't hold their aperture
throughout the zoom range. Is it that difficult or expensive to make a
constant-aperture zoom? I seem to remember that once upon a time, that
was the typical way of building zoom lenses. If they could do it in the
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Glen wrote:
At 10:55 AM 8/17/2005, Andre Langevin wrote:
Pentax Canada rep told my retailer that the FA 50/1.4 is now discontinued
and that they won't supply back-orders. Pentax Canada gets their lenses
directly from Japan, so I guess the lens is no longer produced in
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Steve Jolly wrote:
Personally, I'm guessing that most of the people who want f/2.8 zooms for
their DSLRs have already jumped ship to Canon or Nikon.
How about those with the FA*, the Sigma, the Tokina or the Tamron? I
know a couple of them ;-))
Kostas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Steve Jolly wrote:
Personally, I'm guessing that most of the people who want f/2.8 zooms
for their DSLRs have already jumped ship to Canon or Nikon.
How about those with the FA*, the Sigma, the Tokina or the Tamron? I
know a couple of them
Perhaps relevant to this discussion:
Pentax Japan lens list updated 13 July 2005
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=14654808
Godfrey
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Pentax Japan lens list updated 13 July 2005
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=14654808
Thanks Godfrey - I see one f/2.8 zoom there. Canon have three, covering
the whole range from 16mm to 200mm. They also have a 35mm f/1.4 prime...
S
I think that mirrors the Pentaximaging (old Pentax USA site), digital
lens list. It may have changed recently but I'm too lazy to look.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Perhaps relevant to this discussion:
Pentax Japan lens list updated 13 July 2005
On Aug 17, 2005, at 9:27 AM, Steve Jolly wrote:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
forum=1036message=14654808
Thanks Godfrey - I see one f/2.8 zoom there. Canon have three,
covering the whole range from 16mm to 200mm. They also have a 35mm
f/1.4 prime...
Have you looked at
They don't dominate. Primes are still in the 2-2.8 range. Take a look at
Boz's page;
I looked at Boz's page yesterday. Seems that almost every lens except the
DA has been discontinued or is out of production. Only SIX primes are
shown as being in production (if i counted right), and eleven
All of the limited primes are still in production and faster than f2, and
according to that Pentax Japan list, a number of other primes are still
available as well. You can still order an FA 50/1.4 from BH. The new DA 16-45
is a constant aperture zoom, and a very good one to boot.
Paul
I find it interesting that although Pentaximaging doesn't mention the
MZ-S as a current camera they are still selling it on their web site.
https://pc-wweb.pentax.com/scripts/wgate/zw20_pc/!?~language=en~Okcode=startitemostore=premiumsselected_area=01
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
They don't
Pentax USA, (Pentaximaging), considers quite an extensive list of
lenses to be current.
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/cameras/lenses/digital_35mm/index.jsp
If you want to poke around. However their online store covers a much
smaller line. Then again for digital SLR's they only show
At 01:03 PM 8/17/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can still order an FA 50/1.4 from BH.
Can you? Their web site has this to say:
Availability : Back-ordered
take care,
Glen
Interesting. No mention is made of the 40mm DA that I could see, and the
14mm is, if I read correctly, described as a zoom lens.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: P. J. Alling
Pentax USA, (Pentaximaging), considers quite an extensive list of
lenses to be current.
Perhaps relevant to this discussion:
Pentax Japan lens list updated 13 July 2005
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=14654808
Godfrey
The Pentax rep said that the lens was officially discontinued monday,
two days ago. I had one back ordered for 3 months and they
On Aug 17, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Pentax USA, (Pentaximaging), considers quite an extensive list of
lenses to be current.
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/cameras/lenses/digital_35mm/
index.jsp
Interesting. No mention is made of the 40mm DA that I could see,
and
På 17. aug. 2005 kl. 20.15 skrev Andre Langevin:
Perhaps relevant to this discussion:
Pentax Japan lens list updated 13 July 2005
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=14654808
Godfrey
The Pentax rep said that the lens was officially discontinued monday,
two days
I don't. That was one point in mentioning that the DA40 wasn't listed,
etc. However, it seems odd that there is so much variation on different
sites as to what's available - nothing that is, in my mind, concrete and
that can be counted upon, with few exceptions. Of course, a lens can be
I never said they were competent, after all the web site is probably run
by the marketing department.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Interesting. No mention is made of the 40mm DA that I could see, and the
14mm is, if I read correctly, described as a zoom lens.
Shel
[Original Message]
From:
At 03:10 PM 8/17/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:
I never said they were competent, after all the web site is probably run
by the marketing department.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Interesting. No mention is made of the 40mm DA that I could see, and the
14mm is, if I read correctly, described as a zoom
Canon once made a f0.9.
Glen wrote:
At 03:10 PM 8/17/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:
I never said they were competent, after all the web site is probably
run by the marketing department.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Interesting. No mention is made of the 40mm DA that I could see,
and the
14mm is,
On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I don't. That was one point in mentioning that the DA40 wasn't
listed,
etc. However, it seems odd that there is so much variation on
different
sites as to what's available - nothing that is, in my mind,
concrete and
that can be counted
On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:32 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
(To my knowledge, only Leica has made an f1.0 so far, and it was
for their rangefinder.)
Canon once made a f0.9.
Actually, at least two: the 50mm f/0.85 for the Canon 7 rangefinder,
and the 50mm f/0.9 for EOS mount (don't know if they
- Original Message -
From: Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For someone who used to shoot with Nikon film cameras, and just got a
Pentax *istDS, these signs of fumbling around are all a little
disappointing. I want Pentax to be a stable supplier of high-quality
35mm-style DSLRs and quality
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Glen wrote:
they replace it with another f1.4 of better quality, that would be fine. If
they come out with a high quality f1.0 replacement, that would be absolutely
fantastic. (To my knowledge, only Leica has made an f1.0 so far, and it was
for their rangefinder.)
This
Didn´t Pentax plan to introduce a Limited DA-lens in the 50-60mm range?
That would be nice if it has an aperture in the 1.4 area, even if it was
more expensive.
--
DA 60-70 pancake. Probably another f2.8.
Joe
this is the one I was referring to:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=153sort=7cat=2page=3
Christian
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I looked at Boz's page yesterday. Seems that almost every lens except the
DA has been discontinued or is out of production.
I would recommend a look at the Pentax Japan site; link circulated by
Godfrey earlier. If I wanted (for example) a black
I'm also tired of all the zooms which don't hold their aperture
throughout the zoom range. Is it that difficult or expensive to make a
constant-aperture zoom?
--
By one report/rumor, the forthcoming high-performance telezoom will be
a 70/80-200 f2.8.
BTW, Shel, you got those
I believe it was an F0.95 ... plus there was the famous lens Kubrik had
made for the motion picture Barry Lyndon (three of them, actually), which
was an f0.7. And lets not forget the Kowa 65mm f/0.75 lens and the Canon's
EF 50mm f/1.0L USM, which, I believe, is still the fastest readily
available
På 17. aug. 2005 kl. 21.39 skrev Joseph Tainter:
Didn´t Pentax plan to introduce a Limited DA-lens in the 50-60mm
range? That would be nice if it has an aperture in the 1.4 area, even
if it was more expensive.
--
DA 60-70 pancake. Probably another f2.8.
2.8?
We don´t know that.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
They don't dominate. Primes are still in the 2-2.8 range. Take a look at
Boz's page;
I looked at Boz's page yesterday. Seems that almost every lens except the
DA has been discontinued or is out of production. Only SIX primes are
shown as being in production (if i
At 03:44 PM 8/17/2005, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
16-45, 20-35 and the FAs,* from memory are in that list. I still see no
answer as to the problem with variable aperture lenses.
I used to do a lot of manual flash images, and variable-maximum-aperture
zooms were a disappointment for that.
Sure - used lenses can be a great source, if you can find what you want in
good condition. Personally, I enjoy hunting down lenses and maybe even
finding a good deal. But sometimes it's just as nice to buy something new.
Some of my used lenses took more than a year to locate, some i had to
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Sure - used lenses can be a great source, if you can find what you want in
good condition. Personally, I enjoy hunting down lenses and maybe even
finding a good deal. But sometimes it's just as nice to buy something new.
Some of my used lenses took more than a year to
On Aug 17, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
A big concern for me is that if I buy a Pentax DSLR (and I'm ~this
close~
to doing so), there's no assurance that there will be lenses
available in
the focal and aperture range that I'd like. As it stands now,
there are
only a few primes
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Have you looked at the Canon 35/1.4L, 24-70/2.8L, 16-35/2.8L, and
70-200/2.8L lately? Very fine lenses, but all are monstrously big and
heavy, never mind very expensive.
Read my earlier posts in this thread - that was my other point. :-)
S
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4 discontinued in Canada
Pentax never had a 1.0 in their line and they have long discontinued their
50/1.2.
The A50/1.2 may still be available new, as a special order, though surely
it's days are numbered
On 17/8/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed:
(To my knowledge, only
Leica has made an f1.0 so far, and it was for their rangefinder.)
Out of production, but still exists:
http://www.tanchung.com/canon/ef50mmf10xu.htm
HTH
Cheers,
Cotty
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if you shoot only in manual exposure mode, it can be a problem. zooming
changes the exposure.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4 discontinued in Canada
]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4 discontinued in Canada
16-45, 20-35 and the FAs,* from memory are in that list. I still see no
answer as to the problem with variable aperture lenses.
GD Actually, at least two: the 50mm f/0.85 for the Canon 7 rangefinder,
GD and the 50mm f/0.9 for EOS mount (don't know if they ever made it for
GD FD mount). I believe the latter was discontinued only a few years
GD ago, although it was never produced in any large numbers.
Sorry for nitpicking,
On Aug 17, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Frantisek wrote:
GD Actually, at least two: the 50mm f/0.85 for the Canon 7
rangefinder,
GD and the 50mm f/0.9 for EOS mount (don't know if they ever made
it for
GD FD mount). I believe the latter was discontinued only a few years
GD ago, although it was never
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