On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, John Francis wrote:
To beg a question is to side-step it, and to assume the answer;
to ignore the fact that there possibly might be a question there.
Isn't this what he meant? It's certainly what he ought to do if he is
happy with his method!
Only i don't think Shel
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 9/15/2005 11:45:25 PM
Subject: Re: It's Here and It Works!
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, John Francis wrote:
To beg a question is to side-step it, and to assume the answer;
to ignore the fact that there possibly
Contemporary usage indicates another meaning, John, the way in which I used
the phrase, which gaining ground. Some recent dictionaries claim that it is
now acceptablethe New Oxford Dictionary of English, for example, says it
is widely accepted in modern standard English. However, some people
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Contemporary usage indicates another meaning, John, the way in which I used
the phrase, which gaining ground. Some recent dictionaries claim that it is
now acceptable—the New Oxford Dictionary of English, for example, says it
is “widely accepted in modern standard
Hey Folks,
Well, yesterday afternoon my *ist-DS arrived as well. Yee haw! I'll have to
contact buydig.com because the two batteries were not in the box. A minor
inconvenience, but still...
Last night I spent some time playing with the camera, of course. Since I
haven't gotten my memory cards
Barry Rice wrote:
Hey Folks,
Well, yesterday afternoon my *ist-DS arrived as well. Yee haw! I'll have to
contact buydig.com because the two batteries were not in the box. A minor
inconvenience, but still...
Last night I spent some time playing with the camera, of course. Since I
haven't gotten
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi,
When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it like the
Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are rarely second chances for much
of what I photograph. That's why it's so important that I fully understand
the camera and its idiosyncrasies.
Shel
Please: either top post or bottom post. Mixing the two styles is
difficult to follow.
The ability to use the LCD to evaluate exposure even if when actually
shooting people and situations you only have a one-shot chance. I
often take a few test exposures and take a quick look at them, look
Since I shoot a lot of weddings, I fall into the same category for
many shots. I have found however, that you can take a dummy shot
ahead of the real thing with the same lighting, when it is tricky to
figure out and be ready for the real shot. For that, instant review
is useful. Most of the
You're right, Mr Forbes does.
Vive la differance.
Mr Forbes
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:40:22 +0100, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi,
When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it like
the
Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are
This does not disparage the notion of fully understanding a camera
and its idiosyncracies/controls so as to be able to pick it up
'running' and get great shots immediately. The better you know a
particular piece of equipment, the less significant its flaws
are. ;-) It's why, this year, I
On 9/15/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL ... I recall someone on another list discovering this with
another camera and making a big stink about this awful defect and
faulty design. Others got so annoyed by his whingeing that they
started running a competition to see how far
A competition sounds like fun. Do you recall what the greatest distance
was?
The whole thing gave me a big laugh, but it seemed like a good idea to
mention it ... as my mom used to say, You could put someone's eye out.
So, boys and girls, remember to always wear your safety glasses when
My 750z only covers about three feet. If yours is launching across
the room, I am once again falling, er, short.
On 9/15/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A competition sounds like fun. Do you recall what the greatest distance
was?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey
Marnie.
We're puttin' on our heavy boots and overcoats down here.
It's positively chilly...:-)
Regards, Bob S.
On 9/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doe's pearls of wisdom at the bottom ---
Smilin' Shel
=
Cool. So glad. Enjoy!
Boy, hell did just
Good to hear Shel.
Buying a Pentax Dslr is one decision so far this century i have not regreted
making.LOL
As far as using MF lenses,the one thing to remember is switching from AF to MF
on the
camera. When
i first used my 28mm i forgot to set the camera and i thought it was broken as
it would
Gheesh, and here I thought you were hammered.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: It's Here and It Works!
On 14/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Smilin' Shel
(let's see how long the smile lasts)
24 hour report please
On Sep 14, 2005, at 19:57, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
A Big WHOOPS!
Someone else may have mentioned this, but it's worth repeating,
especially
for new DS users. I went to remove the SD card from the camera and
SPROING! the sukka flew across the room.
Y'know, I have an el-cheapo third-party
On 9/14/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hell's not frozen over, except for a small area in the far north where a
bunch of ex-Leica and LX owners are ice fishing.
I know you're not referring to me, as I'm not a ex Leica and LX
owner. Besides, I've never gone ice fishing. g
cheers,
The far north of Hell, Frank, not in Canada.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: frank theriault
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hell's not frozen over, except for a small area in the far north where a
bunch of ex-Leica and LX owners are ice fishing.
I know you're not referring to me, as I'm not a
On 9/14/05, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hell's not frozen over, except for a small area in the far north where a
bunch of ex-Leica and LX owners are ice fishing.
I know you're not referring to me, as I'm not a ex Leica and LX
owner.
Hi Dave ... Thus far I've not been happy with the quality of most of the
test shots. Many are soft, some are out of focus, lots of pics seem to be
underexposed, even when shooting fully manual and basing the exposures on
hand held meter results. In fairness to the gear, my learning curve is
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi Dave ... Thus far I've not been happy with the quality of most of the
test shots. Many are soft, some are out of focus, lots of pics seem to be
underexposed, even when shooting fully manual and basing the exposures on
hand held meter results. In fairness to the gear,
Shel,
I don't know how you set the focus points on the DS, but on the D it's
very easy to move the switch to another setting, and end up focussing on
the wrong thing. Until I realised what was happening, that accounted for
a lot of focus problems when I first got the camera. I tnd to use
Hi Shel.
I bought the D because i have more mf lenses than AF(getting more latly though)
and wanted
to still
use them.
I used the 28 and 50mm lenses for a while and found them not to bad. I did
notice that if
the shot looked
focused in the finder,the confirmation did not beep and visa versa.
Hi John ...
Interspersed:
[Original Message]
From: John Forbes
I don't know how you set the focus points on the DS, but on the D it's
very easy to move the switch to another setting, and end up focussing on
the wrong thing. Until I realised what was happening, that accounted for
a
Remember that RAW images which include highlights SHOULD look somewhat
underexposed before conversion.
Paul
Hi Shel.
I bought the D because i have more mf lenses than AF(getting more latly
though)
and wanted
to still
use them.
I used the 28 and 50mm lenses for a while and found them
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:33:24AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
When I first got the camera, John Celio showed me how to set the focus
point, so now the camera is set properly to use only the center focus
point. However, the problem of oof is eveident with MF lenses.
With MF lenses you're
In a message dated 9/15/2005 8:56:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember that RAW images which include highlights SHOULD look somewhat
underexposed before conversion.
Paul
Yes. When I was first using the Digital Rebel, I was a bit upset that most
things looked
I can't remember specifically, but I think it was several feet. The
camera was the Panasonic FZ10.
Godfrey
On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:29 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
A competition sounds like fun. Do you recall what the greatest
distance
was?
Properly for me ... that's the way I like it so far.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: John Francis
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:33:24AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
When I first got the camera, John Celio showed me how to set the focus
point, so now the camera is set properly to use
Perhaps a little further explanation is in order, John.
When I got the first camera, red lights were flashing all around the
finder, indicating areas other than the central spot, where i wanted to
focus, was being used. This was with an AF lens. Well, setting different
focus areas, and even
On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:33 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
When I first got the camera, John Celio showed me how to set the focus
point, so now the camera is set properly to use only the center focus
point. However, the problem of oof is eveident with MF lenses.
I've only
one AF lens and I don't
On Sep 15, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. The other thing I want to master is the metering. It seems odd
and strange
to me as whenever I use the in camera meter, the readings jump all
over the
place as the camera is moved. ...
The DS when used with an AF lens, and the AF-MF
Did that this morning ... much better.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
re: DS ...
You can turn off the superimposed AF focus point indicator with a
custom setting.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
The other thing I want to master is the metering. It seems odd and
strange to me as whenever I use the in camera meter, the readings
jump all over the place as the camera is moved. There's a way to
mitigate that, but I'm net yet comfortable with it. It's slow and
Shel, you asked:
Do you use spot, center weighted, or the matrix metering?
It depends. Another difference between using digital and film is that
digi gives you instant feedback, in the form of the image and the
histogram, so getting it right first time isn't always as important as it
Hi,
When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it like the
Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are rarely second chances for much
of what I photograph. That's why it's so important that I fully understand
the camera and its idiosyncrasies.
Shel
[Original Message]
It's odd and strange because I don't use built in meters, so seeing how the
meter behaves begs the question of how best to deal with that.
I use Photoshop Raw, but I've still gotta learn to master it.
Shel
Am I paranoid or perceptive?
[Original Message]
From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
The
No it doesn't. For someone as precise as you, Shel, I'm more than
a little astonished that you continue to mis-use 'begs the question'.
To beg a question is to side-step it, and to assume the answer;
to ignore the fact that there possibly might be a question there.
It doesn't mean calls for
About 1/2 hour ago Mr FedEx came knocking at my door. He brought the
cutest little camera. The replacement DS is here, and everything seems to
be working as it should. Gotta figure out how to use the manual lenses and
get familiar with the menus. I feel a little fumble-fingered with it.
The
On 9/14/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About 1/2 hour ago Mr FedEx came knocking at my door. He brought the
cutest little camera. The replacement DS is here, and everything seems to
be working as it should. Gotta figure out how to use the manual lenses and
get familiar with the
Good to hear it! It's really a bummer when you get a defective, I'm
glad it's worked out well in the end.
Well, off to read the manual.
Hmm. I'da thought you'd been doing that for a week or more.
So far, 1465 exposures ROTF
Come'on. 1465 exposures in half an hour? You can do better than
On 14/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Smilin' Shel
(let's see how long the smile lasts)
24 hour report please. Then a 7 day, and maybe a 2 weeker as well.
I'm riveted.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|
WOO HOO!!
Go gettum, Shel - g.
Fred
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About 1/2 hour ago Mr FedEx came knocking at my door. He
brought the
cutest little camera. The replacement DS is here, and
everything seems to
be working as it should. Gotta figure out how to use the
manual lenses and
get familiar with the menus. I
Not fair! I want mine too!
Waaa.
Barry
Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu
Hang in there, Barry, it'll be there in just a day or so. I know how you
feel ;-))
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Barry Rice
Not fair! I want mine too!
Waaa.
Doe's pearls of wisdom at the bottom ---
In a message dated 9/14/2005 1:34:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
About 1/2 hour ago Mr FedEx came knocking at my door. He brought the
cutest little camera. The replacement DS is here, and everything seems to
be working as it
Cool, congratulations Shel! I was hoping this one would go smoothly
for you. It sucks when you order something like that and get a
defective sample.
Now just think it is a Leica and go take some pics in the street!
j
On 9/14/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About 1/2 hour ago Mr
A Big WHOOPS!
Someone else may have mentioned this, but it's worth repeating, especially
for new DS users. I went to remove the SD card from the camera and
SPROING! the sukka flew across the room. Be careful boys and girls, you
may have a DS with a supercharged release thingy. It's not too
Hell's not frozen over, except for a small area in the far north where a
bunch of ex-Leica and LX owners are ice fishing.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shel Belinkoff writes:
About 1/2 hour ago Mr FedEx came knocking at my door. He brought the
cutest little camera.
Tomorrow I'm gonna take it outside and try it with a couple of different
lenses.
Better to be riveted than screwed or stapled ;-))
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
24 hour report please. Then a 7 day, and maybe a 2 weeker as well.
I'm riveted.
The DL does the same trick by the way.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
A Big WHOOPS!
Someone else may have mentioned this, but it's worth repeating, especially
for new DS users. I went to remove the SD card from the camera and
SPROING! the sukka flew across the room. Be careful boys and girls, you
This is odd. My DS is well behaved in this regard. The spring is just
strong enough to only partially eject the card -- just enough to get a good
grip on it with my fingers. I would think this should be the normal behavior?
take care,
Glen
At 09:54 PM 9/14/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:
The DL
LOL ... I recall someone on another list discovering this with
another camera and making a big stink about this awful defect and
faulty design. Others got so annoyed by his whingeing that they
started running a competition to see how far they could launch the
card. He finally shut up.
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