Excellent suggestions, George. Thanks! Cheers, Christine
On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:21 PM, George Sinos wrote:
Hi Christine - After you view the videos on adobe's site. Kelby's
book is probably all you need. I haven't found any to be more to the
point. I'd say get the most recent version.
On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:50 PM, George Sinos wrote:
Second, there are two catalog settings that I make sure are checked.
They are not by default. The first is Write all Develop settings
inside jpeg, tiff and psd files, the other is Automatically write
changes to XMP files. With these two
On Jul 11, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
True. But is the scattered backup a function of Lightroom?
No, it's more a function of the user in my view, Paul. I freely admit I have
gaps in my Lightroom knowledge and bad photo management habits.
There are other factors as well.
On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:07 PM, George Sinos wrote:
The ASMP has had this website up for quite some time. They seem to
keep it up to date. It's a good reference when you're trying to come
up with a good workflow.
There is a lot of information here.
http://dpbestflow.org/
thanks for the
Christine Aguila wrote:
On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:07 PM, George Sinos wrote:
The ASMP has had this website up for quite some time. They seem to
keep it up to date. It's a good reference when you're trying to come
up with a good workflow.
There is a lot of information here.
Good to know, Mark, so when I skip bits I won't feel guilty :-). Thanks!
Cheers, Christine
On Jul 15, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Christine Aguila wrote:
On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:07 PM, George Sinos wrote:
The ASMP has had this website up for quite some time. They seem to
Apples oranges it seems to me.
Paul has a system for filing his photos you have a tool for searching
for your photos without necessarily caring where they're filed.
From: Bruce Walker
My old system was Bridge and Ps. And it was a bit of a mess, with no
special place for my edited files
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Apples oranges it seems to me.
Paul has a system for filing his photos you have a tool for searching for
your photos without necessarily caring where they're filed.
The point is that he could continue to file his
From: Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Apples oranges it seems to me.
Paul has a system for filing his photos you have a tool for searching for
your photos without necessarily caring where they're filed.
The point is that he could
On Jul 12, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Apples oranges it seems to me.
Paul has a system for filing his photos you have a tool for searching for
your photos without necessarily caring where they're
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Ah, but in my opinion, that's not the best of both worlds. I' ve tried
lightroom and just don't like the conversion workflow or the structured
routines. I don't like the cutesy names, like brilliance for
On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
wrote:
Ah, but in my opinion, that's not the best of both worlds. I' ve tried
lightroom and just don't like the conversion workflow or the structured
routines. I
Same faciliites are in Lightroom, Paul. Just a different interface.
And more cataloging and data management functions. But I don't care at
all whether you like or want to learn Lightroom vs PS vs Aperture or
any other software. I'm just trying to help Christine recover her
work, and others to
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
ACR's function names are different and generally more descriptive of what is
happening, IMO. The midrange brightness slider, for example, is merely
brightness. Color temperature is temperature. Highlight
On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
ACR's function names are different and generally more descriptive of what is
happening, IMO. The midrange brightness slider, for example, is merely
Paul - other than differences in screen layout, ACR and the Lightroom
develop module are identical. gs
George Sinos
gsi...@gmail.com
www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jul 12, 2012,
Matthew Hunt wrote:
I don't have Ps or ACR, but my understanding is that ACR and Lightroom
use pretty much the same names for their processing controls.)
That is correct: The adjustments in Lightroom and ACR are identical
(and identically named).
Lightroom is just a bit more conducive to working
On Jul 12, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Matthew Hunt wrote:
I don't have Ps or ACR, but my understanding is that ACR and Lightroom
use pretty much the same names for their processing controls.)
That is correct: The adjustments in Lightroom and ACR are identical
(and
on 2012-07-12 7:59 Matthew Hunt wrote
If you don't like the Lightroom workflow at all, that's a different
matter. I only meant the best of both worlds in the sense of getting
Lightroom's cataloging operations, while maintaining your preferred
file structure.
i think he could maintain most or
on 2012-07-11 19:38 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
Lightroom does no backup of your image files at all, that is
completely up to the user to set up.
as an interesting point of comparison, Aperture can copy image files into a
backup location on import; i do this, automatically creating a /MM/DD
On Jul 11, 2012, at 13:19, Paul Stenquist wrote:
This thread has reinforced my confidence in a system that depends on Bridge,
easily searchable file names and dates, and PhotoShop. Every time I've
considered switching to Lightroom, discussions such as this stop me in my
tracks.
It
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
as an interesting point of comparison, Aperture can copy image files into a
backup location on import; i do this, automatically creating a /MM/DD
folder hierarchy on both master and backup volumes (the latter over
on 2012-07-12 11:29 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
as an interesting point of comparison, Aperture can copy image files into a
backup location on import; i do this, automatically creating a /MM/DD
folder hierarchy on both
on 2012-07-12 7:25 John Sessoms wrote
And many Lightroom evangelists seem to think its keywording/tagging
capabilities are an adequate substitute for actually having some kind of system
for organizing your files.
an image catalog means you don't need the mental load of coming up with the
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
on 2012-07-12 11:29 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
It's up to the user to manage their original files.
Original files means the masters used in the editing system, not
what's on the camera storage card. What's on the camera
The ASMP has had this website up for quite some time. They seem to
keep it up to date. It's a good reference when you're trying to come
up with a good workflow.
There is a lot of information here.
http://dpbestflow.org/
Here's an interesting entry on DNG files.
The DNG format preserves the
on 2012-07-12 12:55 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
on 2012-07-12 11:29 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
It's up to the user to manage their original files.
Original files means the masters used in the editing system, not
what's on the
on 2012-07-12 13:07 George Sinos wrote
The ASMP has had this website up for quite some time. They seem to
keep it up to date. It's a good reference when you're trying to come
up with a good workflow.
There is a lot of information here.
http://dpbestflow.org/
i found the ingestion section
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
The ASMP has had this website up for quite some time. They seem to
keep it up to date. It's a good reference when you're trying to come
up with a good workflow.
There is a lot of information here.
http://dpbestflow.org/
What happens when you try to render the proprietary data in the
embedded file and a converter is not available? It seems like you are
adding a layer of obfuscation for the sake of 'future proofing'.
It would seem that converting to the actual open standard would be
safer if you were really
David Parsons wrote:
What happens when you try to render the proprietary data in the
embedded file and a converter is not available? It seems like you are
adding a layer of obfuscation for the sake of 'future proofing'.
It would seem that converting to the actual open standard would be
safer if
Okay, that makes more sense.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
David Parsons wrote:
What happens when you try to render the proprietary data in the
embedded file and a converter is not available? It seems like you are
adding a layer of obfuscation
David's got it...
G
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Do not delete the catalog or the images in the catalog. That will
erase any keywording and image editing that you may have done.
If the backup (Lightroom 2) has the identical files that
I'm not sure how to simply point your catalog to Lightroom 2. I just tried
to figure it out, but I'm lost. The only option I see is to reimport each
folder on Lightroom 2 drive into the catalogue, but I'd still have the original
missing file and I'd have to rerender the photo. Each
I believe there's a rather simpler solution. Your lightroom catalogue
has stored within it the location each photo and these of course all
point to a drive called Lightroom 1. If your thrid drive reeally is
an identical copy of Lightroom 1 then name it identically too (i.e.
Lightroom 1), then
Quoting Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com:
I believe there's a rather simpler solution. Your lightroom catalogue
has stored within it the location each photo and these of course all
point to a drive called Lightroom 1. If your thrid drive reeally is
an identical copy of Lightroom 1
Christine - here's a video that shows how to find missing or relocated
files and folders.
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-lightroom-4/import-moving-folders-around-after-the-fact/
If you have the same structure on both drives, It takes longer to
watch the explanation than to do it.
Just a tip
I greatly appreciate everyone's help here, but things are a mess with this
catalogue. The more I look try to compare the two folder structures on the 2
main drives, the more messy it seems to be. I think I'll ignore this for a few
days, and try again when I've stopped weeping :-).
I think
Hi Christine - After you view the videos on adobe's site. Kelby's
book is probably all you need. I haven't found any to be more to the
point. I'd say get the most recent version. Martin Evening's book is
even more detailed. I only use them for reference.
One thing you might want to try.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
I greatly appreciate everyone's help here, but things are a mess with this
catalogue. The more I look try to compare the two folder structures on the 2
main drives, the more messy it seems to be. I think I'll
This thread has reinforced my confidence in a system that depends on Bridge,
easily searchable file names and dates, and PhotoShop. Every time I've
considered switching to Lightroom, discussions such as this stop me in my
tracks.
Paul
On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
If you've got a system based on the rest of the stuff you mention
(meaningful file names, etc.) it really doesn't matter which of the
particular tools (Bridge, Lightroom, etc.) you choose to implement
your solution.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 02:19:36PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
This thread
Paul - I had similar doubts. If you do any significant work outside
of the Lightroom/Photoshop sphere, I think bridge is likely a better
choice. After all, that's what it was designed for, to be a connector
between all of the Adobe products.
There are however a couple of considerations if
Big thanks, Godfrey. I just ordered the Martin Evening Book. I'll deal with
this catalogue mess after a look that this book. I shall also try some of your
solutions below--in a few days, that is :-). I'll let everyone know how it
goes--or didn't :-) Cheers, Christine
On Jul 11, 2012, at
Paul, don't let my limited knowledge and bad photo management habits prejudice
you against Lightroom :-). Cheers, Christine
On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
This thread has reinforced my confidence in a system that depends on Bridge,
easily searchable file names and
On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Paul, don't let my limited knowledge and bad photo management habits
prejudice you against Lightroom :-). Cheers, Christine
On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
This thread has reinforced my confidence in a system
My old system was Bridge and Ps. And it was a bit of a mess, with no
special place for my edited files and no easy way to locate finished
files later. But I thought that it was equivalent to Lr / Ps and not
worth the upgrade. How wrong I was.
I switched to using Lr / Ps and all the world is
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:50 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
Second, there are two catalog settings that I make sure are checked.
They are not by default. The first is Write all Develop settings
inside jpeg, tiff and psd files, the other is Automatically write
changes to XMP files.
+1 on John's succinct reply.
We're talking about a system recovery situation here, not using
Lightroom in the normal circumstances. If your hard drive crashed and
you had a scattered backup, you'd be in exactly the same position of
Christine but with no other information to help you piece the
True. But is the scattered backup a function of lightroom? (I admit to being a
total dummy in regard to that software.) My bridge backups are merely
duplicates (and in some cases, triplicates) of the various drives. if a drive
is lost, I can immediately switch to the backup, and subsequently
No, and we don't know whether Christine's backup is actually
scattered, or even how she does her backups. I was speaking to all the
possible cases in order to reconnect the LR catalog to an existing set
of files.
Lightroom does no backup of your image files at all, that is
completely up to the
Hi Everyone:
I'm seeking advice. Here's the situation:
1) I've been using 2 external drives for my photos. I have called these drives
Lightroom 1 (main one which has been linked to a catalogue of 8,000 plus
photos) and Lightroom 2 (back up). Well, Lightroom 1 stopped responding. It's
been
Do not delete the catalog or the images in the catalog. That will
erase any keywording and image editing that you may have done.
If the backup (Lightroom 2) has the identical files that Lightroom 1
had, then simply point your catalog to Lightroom 2, and make Lightroom
3 a new backup (I would
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