on 2012-04-08 15:54 P. J. Alling wrote
Unless [Mother Jones has] changed their editorial stance significantly, they're
way
further left than liberal,
that's why the wiki text lacks a citation ...
and i agree, as a past subscriber and now occasional online reader of MoJo, i'm
glad it's not a
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
David Parsons
I've only ever seen his work for sale on cruise ships. It tends to be
a somewhat captive market for people who are on vacation and who buy
art like this partly as a memento, kind of like buying a Wyland
And - here's Seth Godin's blog -
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/04/is-everyone-entitled-to-their-opinion.html
Feels like it connects with this thread.
gs
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And - here's Seth Godin's blog -
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/04/is-everyone-entitled-to-their-opinion.html
Feels like it connects with this thread.
gs
George Sinos
gsi
And - here's Seth Godin's blog -
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/04/is-everyone-entitled-
to-their-opinion.html
Feels like it connects with this thread.
gs
Who is he? Why should we care about his opinion?
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And - here's Seth Godin's blog -
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/04/is-everyone-entitled-to-their-opinion.html
Feels like it connects with this thread.
gs
George Sinos
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And - here's Seth Godin's blog -
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/04
From: Walt Gilbert
How can you people still be talking about this?
There's a crime scene on the dance floor, for Pete's sake!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=ljbZKQIUZvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=ljbZKQIUZvM
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And - here's Seth
On Apr 8, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Bob W wrote:
sure, if you think making money out of shit is the be-all and end-all, but
his work is still shit and it will always be dismissed as shit by people who
know shit from shinola.
Bob, are you channeling Steve Jobs?
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I object to anyone my age dying. It encourages what I consider to be a
bad trend.
Amen / Mark to that!
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 00:40:30 -0400
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
http://motherjones.com/print/161491
I haven't read Mother Jones in years, and they were a bit left of
Molotov even then. I didn't think they'd survived the 90's to tell
the truth.
i don't think they
I wouldn't get too hung up on details like that. Journalistic
restrictions on depictions of reality need not apply to other types of
photography or painting. Think of his stuff as pure fantasy. Maybe
he's got faeries with tiny LED flashlights and reflectors cunningly
concealed under rocks and
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Bruce Walker
I wouldn't get too hung up on details like that. Journalistic
restrictions on depictions of reality need not apply to other types of
photography or painting. Think of his stuff as pure fantasy. Maybe he's
From: P. J. Alling
On 4/7/2012 10:13 PM, Subash wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:15:00 -0400
P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow I always assumed there was a factory somewhere in China that
was turning out genuine Kikcades based on an propitiatory algorithm,
with hundreds of
On 4/8/2012 12:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
On 4/7/2012 10:13 PM, Subash wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:15:00 -0400
P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow I always assumed there was a factory somewhere in China that
was turning out genuine Kikcades based on
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:44:34PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
I don't even blame Kinkade for his own self-promotion.
I have absolutely no problems with his self-promotion, nor with his
ability to sell vast quantities of his product. My objection is to
the pretence that he is providing the
On 4/8/2012 10:11 AM, Subash wrote:
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 00:40:30 -0400
P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
http://motherjones.com/print/161491
I haven't read Mother Jones in years, and they were a bit left of
Molotov even then. I didn't think they'd survived the 90's to tell
On Apr 8, 2012, at 5:42 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:44:34PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
I don't even blame Kinkade for his own self-promotion.
I have absolutely no problems with his self-promotion, nor with his
ability to sell vast quantities of his product. My
Paul is on to something here. There is nothing strange about someone
producing lousy art. OTOH, it's really weird that so many people
bought this stuff. This is not some kind of visual Ponzi scheme; you
can actually see what you are buying and there is no deception. If he
sold his stuff then
I've only ever seen his work for sale on cruise ships. It tends to be
a somewhat captive market for people who are on vacation and who buy
art like this partly as a memento, kind of like buying a Wyland print
or painting when you visit Hawaii.
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Steven Desjardins
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Subject: OT: Thomas Kinkade, Dead
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So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die.
I'm
54. I shall be mightily pissed off if I don't live well well beyond
90.
I love this phrase from the
Hey, his company was selling $32 million per quarter before it went private.
It may have been shit, but it was popular, and for as little as 1% of
those sales
you could look down on anything I've created.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
So, the
On Apr 7, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Bob W wrote:
So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die.
I'm
54. I shall be mightily pissed off if I don't live well well beyond
sure, if you think making money out of shit is the be-all and end-all, but
his work is still shit and it will always be dismissed as shit by people who
know shit from shinola.
B
Bob,
You and I both work in IT and myself specifically in software
development. You don't think we've made money
On 4/7/2012 9:56 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Apr 7, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Bob W wrote:
So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die.
I'm
54. I shall be mightily
as the tendencies of some to hate a lottery
winner.
I'm not impressed with the style his work, only of his success.
Jack
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On Apr 7, 2012
sure, if you think making money out of shit is the be-all and end-
all,
but his work is still shit and it will always be dismissed as shit by
people who know shit from shinola.
B
Bob,
You and I both work in IT and myself specifically in software
development. You don't think
On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Bob W wrote:
sure, if you think making money out of shit is the be-all and end-
all,
but his work is still shit and it will always be dismissed as shit by
people who know shit from shinola.
B
Bob,
You and I both work in IT and myself specifically in
With the right subject line this time...
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
sure, if you think making money out of shit is the be-all and end-
all,
but his work is still shit and it will always be dismissed as shit by
people who know shit from shinola.
B
A few weeks ago someone paid a boatload of money for the world's most
expensive photograph. Personally, I thought is wasn't even an
interesting snapshot. It didn't evoke any feelings when I looked at
it. Not even technical interest.
Decades ago, when I was in high-school, I had a part-time job
Bob W wrote:
So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die.
I'm
54. I shall be mightily pissed off if I don't live well well beyond
90.
I love this phrase
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Paul Stenquist
Making money by dishonestly peddling shit as if it were something
better is not an honourable, decent job, it's taking advantage of
people. Paintings such as Thomas Kinkade's are shit glorified by his
Well stated Tom. I agree.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Subject: Re: OT: Thomas Kinkade, Dead
With the right subject line this time...
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 01:53:21PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die.
I'm
54. I shall be mightily pissed off if I don't
I didn't much care for his work, and he apparently wasn't a very
pleasant person to be in business with or to be around when he was
drinking.
Still, my condolences to his family for their loss.
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So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die. I'm 54. I
Tom C wrote:
Here in America where many people decorate with guns and John Deere
tractor-branded decor, well, his work is a step above that.
Wow. If anyone ever needs to learn how to damn with faint praise you
could give lessons!
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On 4/7/2012 10:52 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Bob W wrote:
So, the Painter of Light (tm) has passed at the early age of 54
years. The Kenny G of painting is gone...
He may not have been too fast to live, but 54 is too young to die.
I'm
54. I shall be mightily pissed off if I don't live well
geeze, Poor Ansel! Why do folks blame artists for self-promotion, shameless or
otherwise? If artists want to live off their art, they have to
get-it-out-there--I don't even blame Kinkade for his own self-promotion.
Kinkade's comments about Picasso I found quite silly, though--I watched a
From: Jack Davis
As is very often the case, it's an athletic piling on so as not to be
left out. No matter the true feelings of some, finding out that they
don't hold the opinion popular with?their?current segment of
associates, can put their?social comfort in jeopardy. Some may resent
his
I don't know anything about Kinkade swindling investors but I certainly did
hear about his temper and other rather unsavory things about his personal life.
Whatever.
Much as I may dismiss his art (such as it is) I'm not sure how it is that he
didn't deliver. Seems to me that he did deliver -
I object to anyone my age dying. It encourages what I consider to be
a bad trend.
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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I don't know anything about Kinkade swindling investors but I certainly did
hear about his temper and other rather
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:15:00 -0400
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow I always assumed there was a factory somewhere in China that
was turning out genuine Kikcades based on an propitiatory algorithm,
with hundreds of underpaid artists painting on computer generated
color
My main objection to Kinkade's work was the portrayal of impossible
lighting in his work. Figuring out where the main light (usually the
sun) was in the painting and then looking at what is in shadow or lit
in the scene is always an entertaining exercise.
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On 4/7/2012 10:13 PM, Subash wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:15:00 -0400
P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow I always assumed there was a factory somewhere in China that
was turning out genuine Kikcades based on an propitiatory algorithm,
with hundreds of underpaid artists
Passed along without comment:
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Here's another link. That one has no story ATM.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-06/news/os-thomas-kinkade-painter-of-light-dead--20120406_1_painter-familiar-feeling-art-critics
I have a friend who has a couple of his Disney paintings. I'm sure
she's going to think the paintings are
To quote Dorothy Parker speaking of another public personage, (though
for much different reasons), How can they tell?
On 4/6/2012 11:17 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
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