Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-26 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks a lot for the class John. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/25 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: Tim ?sleby Agree about the flat light. I had trouble rendering these two files. As I recall, I had one light at each side of me, in a 45 degre angle,

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-26 Thread Tim Øsleby
And to the rest of the crew. You have given me a lot to work on. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Rick Womer
Tim, The question is: What sort of person is Ole Dan? Is he a sober and reflective sort? Then #1 might be best. Is he relaxed and casual? Then #2. Is he given to melancholy? Then perhaps #3. #4 is the most complex of the four poses; the pose indicates engagement (a conversation with

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
Yeah. I think I've portrait him pretty good. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/24 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: Tim, The question is:  What sort of person is Ole Dan? Is he a sober and reflective sort?  Then #1 might be best. Is he relaxed and casual?  Then #2.

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Paul. My opinion and experience is appreciated. The modell told me he _really_ liked the first one. Maybe you have put words on why? Let me explain why I explore these odd angles, to see if I can make them work. I am looking for something different. There is so many portraiters doing the

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
And this is what makes your opinion so valuable for me :-) -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/24 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: Thanks Paul. My opinion and experience is appreciated. The modell told me he _really_ liked the first one. Maybe you have put words on why?

RE: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Bob W
See if you can get hold of a copy of 'Train Your Gaze' by Roswell Angier. It's an excellent and practical guide to portrait photography. Camera angles tend to be gimmicky and looked tired very quickly. Besides, Cartier-Bresson was very scathing about them. The key to portrait photography is

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks Paul. My opinion and experience is appreciated. The modell told me he _really_ liked the first one. Maybe you have put words on why? It's a good shot. Let me explain why I explore these odd angles, to see if I can make them work.

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
You will be fine Larry, as long as you stay away from tiny overlaoded boats. http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I'm not aiming to invent a totally new direction in photography. But I'm looking for something that makes my pictures mine. My photo colleague takes a lot of near

RE: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tim ?sleby Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need to learn fast. The first and last have nice modeling. The lighting in the middle two are a bit flat for my taste. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Tim - Being different for it's own sake is seldom if ever, a successful asthetic. The best portraits are where the personality and character of the one you are photographing is revealed in them without your style and personality getting in the way. I suspect you model (friend of yours?)

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
Both are valid points Ann. BTW. The first one is 20% photography and 80% rendering. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/24 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Tim - Being different for it's own sake is seldom if ever, a successful asthetic.  The best portraits are where the

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tim ?sleby Alas my photoshop skills are limited. When I try to remove them, it just looks unatural. So I just try to tone them down a bit. This is among the things I really need to work on. I have a book somewhere ... 2011/3/23 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Would advise removing any

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Tim Øsleby wrote: Both are valid points Ann. BTW. The first one is 20% photography and 80% rendering. ahha! hence the fantasy look. :-) ann -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/24 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Tim - Being different for it's own sake is

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
Agree about the flat light. I had trouble rendering these two files. As I recall, I had one light at each side of me, in a 45 degre angle, probably about 1,5EV differense. Nothing fancy. Any suggestions on how to improve? -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/24 John Sessoms

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tim ?sleby Agree about the flat light. I had trouble rendering these two files. As I recall, I had one light at each side of me, in a 45 degre angle, probably about 1,5EV differense. Nothing fancy. Any suggestions on how to improve? You've got the lights off to both sides so both

PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need to learn fast. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
I prefer the pose in the first shot Dave On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need to learn fast. -- MaritimTim

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Bulent Celasun
I liked the first and the second most. The first has the old-time look and the second has a natural feel about it. The last one might have been better for me, if the foot was not fighting for attention. Bulent. -

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Jack Davis
Would advise removing any glistening facial areas. I see a few in these shots. Would apply to all bare skin areas for that mater. Jack --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson To: Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Bray
Two words: Face powder. First is best. -T On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need to learn fast. -- MaritimTim

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 23, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need to learn fast. I like the first one. The lighting in the fourth is nice, and it's an interesting angle. I think

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-03-23 6:25 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need to learn fast. Tim, I *really* like the bw headshot best. I have a couple of issues with the 2nd and 3rd seated shots. To me

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
Don't be sorry Bruce. I asked for honesty. So thanks a lot for speaking freely. Your da maaan :-) Despite this, I'm not sure if I agree with you point about making a male subject diminutive. But I _do_ think you are right about the size of the head. So I'll probably try to zoom in and back of a

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html Thanks a bunch guys. For speedy and constructive comments. Let me reply to the most important first. O. D. is my colleague, not my college. What I do for metering? Errrh. Does chimp count as metering ;-) What I do, is to chimp with

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
: From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:25 PM Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html I lust for comments. I need

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
Alas my photoshop skills are limited. When I try to remove them, it just looks unatural. So I just try to tone them down a bit. This is among the things I really need to work on. I have a book somewhere ... -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/23 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 23, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d-johnson.html Thanks a bunch guys. For speedy and constructive comments. Let me reply to the most important first. O. D. is my colleague, not my college. What I do for metering? Errrh. Does chimp

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:25 PM Meet my college Ole Dan Johnson (four picks) http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/03/o-d

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
So far I haven't had problems with blown out background. But I will soon. Because now I will start to light it directly. I haven't had tools to trigger more than two flashes so far, but now I have extra triggers, opening up new possibilities. What I've had metering difficulties with so far, is to

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: So far I haven't had problems with blown out background. But I will soon. Because now I will start to light it directly. When I use white seamless I *try* to blow out the background. And if I don't in the camera, I often do in post, using the

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I find this one a bit odd. The 50/50 center-of-face light split and the bright spot in the shadowed eye make it look a bit spooky. If a bit of a horror-movie look was your goal, it succeeds. As an attractive portrait it doesn't work for me. On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Meet

Re: PESO - Portrait: O. D. Johnson

2011-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I had looked only at the first. I went back to see the rest. I agree in regard to the odd camera positions, as noted by Bruce below, although I think the second shot (first color) is okay in that regard. But I find a bit too dark and oversaturated. On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Bruce Walker