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> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > William Robb > > Interestingly ehough, I understood exactly what he wrote, and interpreted it > correctly. > It must be a Canadian English vs Australian English thing. > > Did JCO hijack your mail a

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- Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr" Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? Adam, I did read what you said and understood what you said (as well as your grammar would permit). The problem is, despite what you intended to say, your words say some

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam, > > I did read what you said and understood what you said (as well as your > grammar would permit). The problem is, despite what you intended to say, > your words say something different. You made mistakes, and screw

RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax?

On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 10:01 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> and m43 will have

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2008/10/22 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/10/22 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:05 AM, D

Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax?

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/22 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >>> I still don't see the big de

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2008/10/22 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> >>> I still don't see the big deal of FF. >>> >>> I know people say then their 24 will be a 24. not a 35 equival

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> and m43 will have serious IQ advantages, >> particularly at high ISO's. > > m43 better IQ than 4/3. How? > > You're crazy. You really are. > > Regards, Anthony > You might actually try reading what I said. I was com

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> and m43 will have serious IQ advantages, > particularly at high ISO's. m43 better IQ than 4/3. How? You're crazy. You really are. Regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> I still don't see the big deal of FF. >> >> I know people say then their 24 will be a 24. not a 35 equivalent, >> etc, but just do what I do. >> >> I step back a

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:29 , Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:31 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: I guess 6x4.5 isn't "full frame" either ... I mean, after all, there're 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x12, and 6x17 cm formats on 120mm roll film. And many of those cameras can

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:29 , PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I guess 6x4.5 isn't "full frame" either ... I mean, after all, there're 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x12, and 6x17 cm formats on 120mm roll film. And many of those cameras

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EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jos from Holland Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:58 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? Yes, but only sharper at the point of focus.. The system with smaller sensor will show a larger dept

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:23 PM, frank theriault wrote: 15 frames per second? ~Only~ 15 frames per second? I laugh in your general direction: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010601casiof1.asp Aim high, my friend. You don't want 60fps, you ~need~ it. Now! insane. G -- PDML Pentax-Di

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not everyone needs to shoot at > ISO 128,000 and 15 frames per second. Or wants to. 15 frames per second? ~Only~ 15 frames per second? I laugh in your general direction: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010601casio

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 07:36 , "JC OConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since medium format already has/had so many formats, 645,6x6,6x7,6x8,6x9 Etc, I strongly doubt any camera company or photographers are going to Us the simple term "FF" How this branch of the conversation began

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Yes, but only sharper at the point of focus.. The system with smaller sensor will show a larger depth of focus... The depth of focus is best compromised for my photography at a size somewhere in between APS-C and FF (24x36) Greetz Jos JC OConnell wrote: At a given Mpixel sensor, FF yields

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Adam Maas wrote: ... The thing about the 24mm lens 'being' a 24mm lens has more to do with the lack of lens choices wider than 24mm, especially primes for those of us who prefer them. The reason for this is the use of SLR lens mounts that constrain lens designs

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> I still don't see the big deal of FF. >> >> I know people say then their 24 will be a 24. not a 35 equivalent, >> etc, but just do what I do. >> >> I step back a

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I pointed out that Olympus has a >> > different platform that was intended to be the size it is, in which > context >> > it is indeed "full frame", albeit not 35mm "full frame". >> >> In fact that was me, and I w

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:40:43AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:31 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: > >>> I guess 6x4.5 isn't "full frame" either ... I mean, after all, >>> there're 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x12, and 6x17 cm formats on 120mm >>> roll film. And many of those came

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PN Stenquist wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I guess 6x4.5 isn't "full frame" either ... I mean, after all, there're 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x12, and 6x17 cm formats on 120mm roll film. And many of those cameras can share lenses. Which of them is "full frame", I

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:31 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: I guess 6x4.5 isn't "full frame" either ... I mean, after all, there're 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x12, and 6x17 cm formats on 120mm roll film. And many of those cameras can share lenses. Which of them is "full frame", I wonder... ? 8 x 10

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I guess 6x4.5 isn't "full frame" either ... I mean, after all, there're 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x12, and 6x17 cm formats on 120mm roll film. And many of those cameras can share lenses. Which of them is "full frame", I wonder... ?

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On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I still don't see the big deal of FF. I know people say then their 24 will be a 24. not a 35 equivalent, etc, but just do what I do. I step back a bit.:-) The idiocy is that a 24mm lens is *always* a 24mm lens. The focal length only defin

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> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas (snip) > > Now I learn that Phase one has announced an upcoming product, and > > significantly they called it "the world's first FULL FRAME 645 medium format > > camera system". Their words, m

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> > I pointed out that Olympus has a > > different platform that was intended to be the size it is, in which context > > it is indeed "full frame", albeit not 35mm "full frame". > > In fact that was me, and I was using the common usage of the term, > which refers to 36x24mm sensors on a 35m

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At a given Mpixel sensor, FF yields less noise And sharper image vs APS because the pixels are Larger and the lenses are relatively sharper compared To those larger pixels. Same way 4x5 is better than MF, Or MF is better than 35mm. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

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I still don't see the big deal of FF. I know people say then their 24 will be a 24. not a 35 equivalent, etc, but just do what I do. I step back a bit.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:17 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > I think hell just froze over, but I have to agree with JCO here. Full > Frame is technically just full frame fo

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think hell just froze over, but I have to agree with JCO here. Full >> Frame is technically just full frame for the basic format (As the new >> PhaseOne P65+ is 645 full frame) but in common usage it refers >> specific

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ing their cameras "full frame", and they won't mean 24mm x 36mm. A lot of photographers will just need to "deal with it". Regards, Anthony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Tuesday,

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> even though "Full Frame" is generally used to mean one thing by >> the average user, it is technically not a correct use of the term. >> > > Exactly. Words and phrases can change their definition by shifts in common >

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y, 21 October 2008 2:36 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > > Yes I have. My point is that FF generally, almost universally today > > Means a 24x36mm sensor. This is because DSLRs using 24x36 designed > > Lens

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Yes I have. My point is that FF generally, almost universally today Means a 24x36mm sensor. This is because DSLRs using 24x36 designed Lenses are predominantly available in FF and less than FF. All the Other formats, 4/3 etc. don't really have two or more different Size sensors being used for a pa

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ax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? Anthony gave up thusly: >I give up =/ > <http://img1.jurko.net/avatar_1218.gif> I think that sums up my reaction nicely, as well. JCO, are you even paying attention to what other contributors to this thread

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Anthony gave up thusly: I give up =/ I think that sums up my reaction nicely, as well. JCO, are you even paying attention to what other contributors to this thread have said? It sure seems like you aren't. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://w

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I give up =/ <http://img1.jurko.net/avatar_1218.gif> regards, Anthony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC > OConnell > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 1:18 PM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >

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CTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:41 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? It's not a 4/3 camera, it's much bigger. It's bigger than 36mm x 24mm. The Leica S2 will have a 45mm x 30mm, 37.5M

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Adam, Some corrections: - Panasonic and Leica together collaborated on the design of the Digilux-3 and Lumix DMC-L1K bodies. While mechanically identical, they have different JPEG rendering firmware, each tailored to their brand's preferences in color and grayscale image processing. All of

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; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC > OConnell > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 12:19 PM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > Does this 4/3 leica dslr use l

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om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Anthony Farr > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:49 PM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > >> >> Leica has a DSLR that's larger than the

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h a sensor smaller than a standard 4/3 sensor. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:49 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sony full f

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system's capability. I don't know if Canon sells small image circle lenses. Regards, Anthony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC > OConnell > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 11:11 AM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail L

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2008/10/21 JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Leica has a DSLR that's larger than the lenses designed to fit it? No. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, plea

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bject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? "Full Frame" means that the sensor is the total size of the format as it was originally designed. Any format. The 35mm derived sector of the industry doesn't own the moniker, even if some of its users choose to appropriate th

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From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't worry folks, I got it ;-) I agree, too, BTW. It would be foolish for Pentax go try to make a full-on pro system camera like the 1D or the D3, but they do need something like a D700, A900 or D5. I expect we'll get it, though not for a while. Well

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In other words, Cotty's hat may decompose before he has to eat it. I suppose that would make it more tender... Rick --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree, too, BTW. It would be foolish for Pentax go try to > make a > full-on pro system camera like the 1D o

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escribe the new Leica DSLR as, "overfull frame"? Super FF? Regards, Anthony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC > OConnell > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:35 AM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' &

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"full frame" in the DSLR industry TODAY means DSLRs that use legacy 35mm SLR film lenses and 24x36mm sensors. APS/ 4/3, whatever are not "full frame" cameras By todays general usage of the term. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mail

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I'll probably be able to get my D700 by the time Pentax comes out with a FF. Not that i care at all for FF or not, but i love the low noise, low light photos i have been seeing from the camera. If i stay on with the equine photos, the D700, or maybe even the D300 would be a boon for the l;ow ligh

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Dario Bonazza wrote: William Robb wrote: For weddings and portraits, I would like something closer to 24x36 (enough smaller that some sort of shake reduction can be had in body with 35mm format coverage lenses, perhaps 20x30mm), and 12-14 MP. This should give enough of an increase in pixel siz

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ED] On Behalf Of > David Savage > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:11 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > 2008/10/21 Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Olympus 4/3 DSLRs have all been full frame, alway

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On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:10 AM, David Savage wrote: Olympus 4/3 DSLRs have all been full frame, always. It's just that they are the full frame of a different format The same can be said of APS sensor DSLRs. First, the 16x24 and 15x21 mm sensor cameras that are referred to as APS sensors a

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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Sony A900 has in-body SR at 24x36. It shouldn't be surprising that this is possible. Think of an unstabilized image that suffered badly from camera shake. 45 pixels of blur on a K10D would be a huge, image-ruining amoun

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2008/10/21 Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Olympus 4/3 DSLRs have all been full frame, always. It's just that they are > the full frame of a different format The same can be said of APS sensor DSLRs. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listin

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On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: Olympus 4/3 DSLRs have all been full frame, always. It's just that they are the full frame of a different format, which has never been 35mm based. Exactly. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listi

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rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Steve Desjardins > Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 11:16 PM > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > Clearly Olympus has decided not to play the FF game either. As for > Son

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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:16 AM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For weddings and portraits, I would like something closer to 24x36 (enough > smaller that some sort of shake reduction can be had in body with 35mm > format coverage lenses, perhaps 20x30mm), and 12-14 MP. > This should gi

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William Robb wrote: For weddings and portraits, I would like something closer to 24x36 (enough smaller that some sort of shake reduction can be had in body with 35mm format coverage lenses, perhaps 20x30mm), and 12-14 MP. This should give enough of an increase in pixel size to give better noise

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- Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" Subject: RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? I really don't known how a pro level camera would help Pentax's reputation. It's not like we'd start to see a bunch of Pentax lenses at sporting

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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clearly Olympus has decided not to play the FF game either. As for > Sony, remember that they are essentially Konica -Minolta with a lot more > money. Oly is stuck with a lensmount that is incapable of using a much lar

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Clearly Olympus has decided not to play the FF game either. As for Sony, remember that they are essentially Konica -Minolta with a lot more money. I really don't known how a pro level camera would help Pentax's reputation. It's not like we'd start to see a bunch of Pentax lenses at sporting ev

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--- John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > From: Brendan MacRae > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > > Sony now has a FF camera? > > >>> > > I should remember the thing is going to cost > >> > $3000.

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From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sony now has a FF camera? > > I should remember the thing is going to cost > $3000. > > Makes me feel a little bit better. > > > > K, I'm done. > > > > -Br

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--- John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sony now has a FF camera? > > > > > > > > Really, Pentax? You're going to allow Sony to jump > > into the FF market ahead of you? Really? Sony? The > > company that made the Walkman and the Betamax? I >

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From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sony now has a FF camera? Really, Pentax? You're going to allow Sony to jump into the FF market ahead of you? Really? Sony? The company that made the Walkman and the Betamax? I mean you've been making SLR's since what, 1952? Sony's been making them sinc

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--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/10/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, > unleashed: > > > > > > > > >Really, Pentax? You're going to allow Sony to jump > >into the FF market ahead of you? Really? Sony? The > >company that made the Walkman and the Betamax? I > mean > >you've been ma

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On 19/10/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >Really, Pentax? You're going to allow Sony to jump >into the FF market ahead of you? Really? Sony? The >company that made the Walkman and the Betamax? I mean >you've been making SLR's since what, 1952? Sony's been >making them since..

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:36 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? > > Pentax hasn't even been concentrating on entry-level kit, they've been > completely

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ECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax? Pentax hasn't even been concentrating on entry-level kit, they

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On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:08:29AM -0700, Brendan MacRae wrote: >> >> I should remember the thing is going to cost $3000. >> Makes me feel a little bit better. > > That's almost the entire point. Pentax don't think they can

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On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:08:29AM -0700, Brendan MacRae wrote: > > I should remember the thing is going to cost $3000. > Makes me feel a little bit better. That's almost the entire point. Pentax don't think they can sell $3000 cameras. And at that price point I must admit that I'd wonder about

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Pentax hasn't even been concentrating on entry-level kit, they've been completely absent in that market since January and will remain so until the K2000D starts showing up on shelves, and even then it's not exactly cheap (As it's kitted with the 18-55 and the AF200FG flash for $699, not even close

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Sony has an FF lens line. They purposely restricted their offering of their DT crop-specific lenses and maintained a better offering of FF lenses, even when the restrictions didn't make sense (the complete lack of a Sony-branded f2.8 normal zoom for the A700, despite the availability of the Tamron

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Pentax seems to be concentrating on entry level aps Models and ignoring their FF past. They don't want To develop a new line of FF lenses to sell with the FF Camera, so they are avoiding FF camera it seems. Sucks JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTE