Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On 12/5/2011 3:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: For those interested in a little trip down Memory Lane... does anyone remember Silicon Graphics? I think that their last remaining building is next to Eclipse software, which is the new name for Palm Software.

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy Silly me. Can't even read the package properly without my memory synapses cross-firing. Silicon Beach it is. Which isn't far from Silicone Beach, I'm led to believe. Silicone beach? Isn't that where you lay on the sand and look at the stars ... or vice versa. -- PDML

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread steve harley
on 2011-12-05 22:40 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Many people continue to do their work in Photoshop, for whatever reasons. No need to be apologetic about it. Lightroom simply does what I need to do better, most of the time. When it doesn't, I use PS or other tools. i rarely use Photoshop any more

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:27 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: ... i think it would be great (and would induce me to switch from Aperture) if Adobe would integrate PS with LR's non-destructive paradigm, such that anything done in PS could be considered part of the non-destructive edit

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Before there was Lightroom... From: Darren Addy Silly me. Can't even read the package properly without my memory synapses cross-firing. Silicon

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread steve harley
on 2011-12-06 11:10 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote You can actually use Photoshop to edit in a non-destructive manner by using layers skillfully. However, it tend to make the .PSD files very large and performance begins to bog down when you go past a certain point. indeed you can, and you could even

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-06 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-12-06 10:42, John Sessoms wrote: Silicone beach? Isn't that where you lay on the sand and look at the stars ... or vice versa. Any beach within 100 miles of Los Angeles? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Larry Colen
On 12/5/2011 3:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: For those interested in a little trip down Memory Lane... does anyone remember Silicon Graphics? I think that their last remaining building is next to Eclipse software, which is the new name for Palm Software.

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread steve harley
on 2011-12-05 16:30 Darren Addy wrote For those interested in a little trip down Memory Lane... does anyone remember Silicon Graphics? i think you mean Silicon Beach ... but i remember SGI too, quite a bit better, actually; reminded me of using a little purple Indigo for prepress work, and i

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread John Francis
Oh, I remember Silicon Graphics - I worked for them for four years on the Octane2 product (last of the desktop workstations). I worked in the buildings that were sold to Google. My wife used to work for the Computer History Museum, which bought the building which housed SGI's main marketing

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Darren Addy
Silly me. Can't even read the package properly without my memory synapses cross-firing. Silicon Beach it is. Which isn't far from Silicone Beach, I'm led to believe. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
PhotoShop preceded Silicon Graphics by several years and was much more powerful. More expensive too I'd guess. But in those days, employers bought all my software. Paul On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: For those interested in a little trip down Memory Lane... does anyone

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
I meant to say PhotoShop preceded Digital Darkroom. Doh. Wasn't Silicon Graphics the producer of workstations? Paul On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: PhotoShop preceded Silicon Graphics by several years and was much more powerful. More expensive too I'd guess. But in those

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread steve harley
on 2011-12-05 18:06 Paul Stenquist wrote I meant to say PhotoShop preceded Digital Darkroom. actually there were two very different applications called Digital Darkroom; the one in Darren's picture preceded Photoshop -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My partner is a system administrator specializing in IRIX, the Silicon Graphics version of UNIX operating system. These ancient machines are still in operation at the facility where he works. Silicon Beach's Digital Darkroom was from the late 1980s and was used for cleaning up scanned images,

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've tried Lightroom more than once, but have never gotten comfortable with it. To begin, I didn't like the new vocabulary. While certain functions had names in ACR, Lightroom came along with new names for the same functions. That didn't make much sense to me, since they're from the same

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Many people continue to do their work in Photoshop, for whatever reasons. No need to be apologetic about it. Lightroom simply does what I need to do better, most of the time. When it doesn't, I use PS or other tools. G On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread David Parsons
Lightroom is as much or more about organization and metadata as it is about manipulation. You can't do pixel level editing in LR, and Layers don't exist there, so PS and other editors are still useful even if you use LR. My dad doesn't shoot nearly the volume that I do, and LR doesn't make sense

Re: Before there was Lightroom...

2011-12-05 Thread mike wilson
On 06/12/2011 01:54, Darren Addy wrote: Silly me. Can't even read the package properly without my memory synapses cross-firing. Silicon Beach it is. Which isn't far from Silicone Beach, I'm led to believe. Just a click of the enlarge button, IIRC. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss