For once you are correct! Let's get back on topic and start talking
about guns, flags, health insurance and the general inferiority of the
Canadian public.
Norm
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
...or he wouldnt
have posted a bunch of unrelated stuff like optical quality,
plastic, rubber, 50mms only,
: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:28 PM
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For once you are correct! Let's get back on topic and start talking
about guns, flags, health insurance and the general inferiority of the
Canadian public.
Norm
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
...or he
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Digital Image Studio wrote:
series lenses certainly does not limit my ability to manual focus. In
fact I much prefer the consistency and feel of the the focus ring
grips on the A series lenses if I'm to be honest. This is simply my
opinion of course.
And I prefer to MF
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I take pictures, I don't wax ecstatic over how many lenses I've got
or how wonderful the old shit was.
sick of this nonsense
Then move to a different thread. This is a Pentax list and ecstasy
over our Pentax equipment is on topic.
Kostas
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JCO,
You're blowing things far out of proportion. The focus feel of the A
lenses is very similar to the M's, K's, and screw mounts, especially
when you start comparing to the higher quality A's. Your comparison to
the 50's is flawed. And focus feel
on the topic.
jco
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Guys,
The more you engage him in discussion, the more ridiculous
gets in terms
of honing in on precision focus.
jco
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007
On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sir, I wasnt talking to you, I was talking
to someone who already said he PREFERRED
the focus feel of the K/M/M42 but
then said it detract from the A usage. Thats
contradictory.
John, I know it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp
Well said, Bob I'm not trimming a word of your response just in case
anyone may have missed it.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bob Sullivan
JCO,
You're blowing things far out of proportion. The focus feel of the A
lenses is very similar to the M's, K's, and screw mounts,
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John, I know it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp but it's
really very basic, when you post anything to the list you are
effectively talking to everyone.
Secondly there is really
Yes, he has ...
You are an idiot if you cant even understand
the topic.
Shel
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Has he called anyone an idiot yet in this thread?
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On 1/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has he called anyone an idiot yet in this thread?
William Robb
Yep. And the caps lock key got stuck again too.
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Yes, he has ...
You are an idiot if you cant even understand
the topic.
Try mute agreement, he might stop the personal attacks.
Or, apply the internet rule about Adolf Hitler to JCO.
As soon as he
Has Mr. Hitler ever posted to the PDML?
Shel
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Try mute agreement, he might stop the personal attacks.
Or, apply the internet rule about Adolf Hitler to JCO.
As soon as he enters a thread, it's effectively over.
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On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
... This is a Pentax list and ecstasy
over our Pentax equipment is on topic.
Excessive ecstasy over equipment is a sign that your priorities are
out of whack. On this list, it seems to be an indicator that needed
professional help
At 11:58 PM 10/01/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I LOVE THE FEEL OF K-MOUNT LENSES. I HATE THE FEEL OF A-SERIES LENSES.
Maybe some K-Y Jelly might help?
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Bob Sullivan wrote:
... I sure wish I could find an A28/2.0. ...
If you can find two, let me know. I have been looking for an A28/2
since I bought the *ist DS. I've seen exactly two of them for sale in
two years, and 'missed it by *that* much' on the auctions.
Pentax: PLEASE make a
I had one, and - not anticipating getting a DSLR - I sold it. Got a good
price for it, but have since come to regret having sold it. So, that makes
three of us who'd like that lens.
Shel
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bob Sullivan wrote:
... I sure wish I could find an
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Well said, Bob I'm not trimming a word of your response just in
case anyone may have missed it.
Shel
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On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
... This is a Pentax list and ecstasy
over our Pentax equipment is on topic.
Excessive
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Sir, I wasnt talking to you, I was talking
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John, I know it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Excessive ecstasy over equipment is a sign that your priorities are
out of whack.
Is there such a thing as non-excessive ecstasy?
By the way, passing judgement on people's priorities is out of whack.
etc. Stated over and over again, obsessively
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From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
etc. Stated over and over again, obsessively and without reason.
As I keep saying, I have applied a solution to the above problem,
one which lets me enjoy the other postings.
Absolutely. I only see those incoherent ravings because
I made a filter for JCO almost a year ago and it's still in place.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Has Mr. Hitler ever posted to the PDML?
Shel
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From: William Robb
Try mute agreement, he might stop the personal attacks.
Or, apply the internet rule about Adolf
11:19 AM
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On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
etc. Stated over and over again, obsessively and without reason.
As I keep saying, I have applied a solution to the above problem, one
which lets me enjoy
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On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
etc. Stated
On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Created my first filter in gmail. This is gonna feel a whole lot
better...
I just added a quotations rule to my filter. Ah, the joy.
Godfrey
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Mark !
The more you engage him in discussion, the more ridiculous it will
become.
I had hoped this wouldn't be needed in the new year
Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2
Guys,
The more you engage
Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 16.03 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi:
Bob Sullivan wrote:
... I sure wish I could find an A28/2.0. ...
If you can find two, let me know. I have been looking for an A28/2
since I bought the *ist DS. I've seen exactly two of them for sale in
two years, and 'missed it by
, it was directed
specifically at him.
jco
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On 10/01/07, J. C
On 11/01/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had one, and - not anticipating getting a DSLR - I sold it. Got a good
price for it, but have since come to regret having sold it. So, that makes
three of us who'd like that lens.
Keep counting, I've had two in the past, one I sold
As I keep saying, I have applied a solution to the above problem,
one which lets me enjoy the other postings.
Yep, another thread bites the bit bucket!
John
The information transmitted is
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
etc. Stated over and over again, obsessively and without reason.
As I keep saying, I have applied a solution to the above problem,
one
i am still waiting for more fun to come...
best,
mishka
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Has he called anyone an idiot yet in this thread?
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The build quality of the FA35/2 AL is excellent. Compared to the A
series 35/2.8 I had, which was quite nice, the only real difference
in mechanical feel is that the FA35 has less stiction in the focusing
ring.
I never did find a 35/2 manual focus lens, but from everything I've
seen and
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The build quality of the FA35/2 AL is excellent. Compared to the A
series 35/2.8 I had, which was quite nice, the only real difference
in mechanical feel is that the FA35 has less stiction in the
focusing
ring.
I never did find a 35/2
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The build quality of the FA35/2 AL is excellent. Compared to the A
series 35/2.8 I had, which
On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thats not really saying much, because the build quality
of most of the A series lenses are dubious at best.
Most of them have mechanically very unrefined, certainly
there must have be mfg. cost reduction measures taken by
Pentax compared
? ? ?
jco
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On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thats not really
On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well if you count all the ones I got and sold
over the years in pkg. deals, at least a couple
dozen total. I still have a few mint ones in my collection too
but even they are crass compared
to the M and K ( even M42 too ) versions
or Super/SMC Takumar lens.
jco
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On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED
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I know this may sound like piling on, but its not,
as I have stated this many times
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Digital Image Studio wrote:
Sill have two, but I've owned about ten over the years, mostly M, yes
they feel good but in reality the top end A series lenses that I have
retained are practically just as good.
Having owned plenty of lenses from the K, M, and A era, it is my
Thanks a lot, Rob!
While I wondered the same thing, I decided not to get into a discussion
with JCO. Now that you've opened the door
I've found that many of the A lenses I've owned and used were built well,
although I may have preferred the focus feel of the K-lenses and the Super
Taks in
: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:30 PM
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On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well if you count all the ones I got and sold
over the years in pkg. deals, at least a couple
dozen total. I still have a few mint ones
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In my experience some of the A lenses were crap, but an awful lot of
them were just as good as the Ms. Bear in mind that the A range ran from
cheap consumer rubbish kit lenses all the way through to the A*s.
The only non-M/A lens I
Which lenses have you owned/do you still own?
Shel
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Well if you count all the ones I got and sold
over the years in pkg. deals, at least a couple
dozen total. I still have a few mint ones in my collection too
but even they are crass compared
to
Belinkoff
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:53 PM
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Thanks a lot, Rob!
While I wondered the same thing, I decided not to get into a discussion
with JCO. Now that you've opened the door
I've found that many of the A lenses
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Sill have two, but I've owned about ten over the years, mostly M, yes
they feel good but in reality the top end A series lenses that I have
retained are practically just as good.
The A series
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Which lenses have you owned/do you still own?
Shel
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Well if you count all the ones I got and sold
over the years in pkg. deals, at least a couple
dozen total. I still have a few mint ones in my
On 10/01/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the camera I am using now controls aperture from the body, aperture
ring feel has gone from being no big deal to a total non issue.
I do like to twiddle mine occasionally, just to remind me of the good
old days :-)
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On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huh, if you prefer the focus feel, WHY? I say
its because they are built better. That's why.
More precision mechanically. I dont know how
you can say thats not a detraction in a MANUAL FOCUS
lens.
I hate to bring it up but think we have
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:16:45AM +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote:
I do like to twiddle mine occasionally, just to remind me of the good
old days :-)
Mark ...
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From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2
Sill have two, but I've owned about ten over the years, mostly M, yes
they feel good but in reality the top end A series lenses that I
On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only good thing about this overkill
is they have all gone up in value quite a bit in the last year or so, so
I dont feel as bad as I should for having so many...My hobby
has kinda turned into an investment, this year at least...
Surely
On 1/10/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/01/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the camera I am using now controls aperture from the body, aperture
ring feel has gone from being no big deal to a total non issue.
I do like to twiddle mine occasionally,
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On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huh, if you prefer the focus feel, WHY? I say
its because
Since the camera I am using now controls aperture from the body, aperture
ring feel has gone from being no big deal to a total non issue.
William Robb
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has kinda turned into an investment, this year at least...
jco
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Which
Guys,
The more you engage him in discussion, the more ridiculous it will
become.
The FA35/2 AL is a different, and better, optical formula than the
older 35/2. That's not to say that the M/A35/2 is a poor performer or
that the A35/2 that's for sale is not a good lens.
I don't give a damn
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How do the results compare with the K35/2.0 on the DSLR? Anyone know?
I don't know about the K, but I do know the A35/2 is excellent on the DSLRs,
and supports open aperture metering as a bonus
How do the results compare with the K35/2.0 on the DSLR? Anyone know?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Joe Wilensky
For sale: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2, KEH EX condition. Pentax hard case
and front and rear caps included.
A beautiful A-series prime lens that shows up fairly rarely. Same
, January 08, 2007 9:27 AM
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From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2
How do the results compare with the K35/2.0 on the DSLR? Anyone know?
I don't know about the K, but I do know
Oops I just realized that I completely duplicated Bills comments to this.
rg
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How do the results compare with the K35/2.0 on the DSLR? Anyone know?
Shel
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From: Joe Wilensky
For sale: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2, KEH EX condition. Pentax hard
I dont know how it would compare with the K35, but with the K35 on the
DSLR, you would have to use the green button, which is not a problem for
me, might be for others. With the A35, you can set the aperture on the
body and it does full time AE metering, no green button necessary.
rg
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Yes, I understand about the GB Kludge. I have, and am happy with, the
K35/2.0, however, the convenience and features of the A lens has led me to
ask the question. If the A isn't markedly superior to the K, then I'd not
be too interested in it, and would ultimately consider an FA35/2.0.
Shel
Quoting Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
, you would have to use the green button, rg
SHH
Dave
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How do the results compare with the K35/2.0 on the DSLR? Anyone know?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Joe Wilensky
For sale: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2, KEH EX
Certainly the FA35/2 is a very attractive lens, on many fronts. Its not
as well built however, but then again how many lenses today are built
like the old K's?
rg
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Yes, I understand about the GB Kludge. I have, and am happy with, the
K35/2.0, however, the
True ... but then again, I'd be looking more for convenience and ease of
use on the DSLR rather than ultimate build quality.
Shel
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From: Gonz
Certainly the FA35/2 is a very attractive lens, on many fronts. Its not
as well built however, but then again how many lenses
Of
Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:06 PM
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True ... but then again, I'd be looking more for convenience and ease of
use on the DSLR rather than ultimate build quality.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Gonz
Certainly
Then it boils down to: if the image quality is similar/same, then the
other supported features the the FA lens provide is what you have to
base it on. The FA 35 is a different optical formula, but I have heard
nothing but good things about its image quality. Its certainly on my
wish list.
Shel,
I've shot both. The K has that coma issue. The A is a cooler
coating, but labs and software can adapt to that.
Sincerely,
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