Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Sure, in the old days a good photographer would capture one image in the
decisive moment telling the whole story .-)
of content is just more evident when the technology is
better.
DagT
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emne: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
i bought the *istD knowing that at only 6MP, it could
.
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Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Patents are often used for trade, as long as you contribute to the common
patent pool you are allowed
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Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I dont agree with you in that the content of the images depend on the
technology. In my view the lack of content is just more evident when the
technology is better
: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
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Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I dont agree with you in that the content of the images depend on the
technology. In my view the lack of content is just more evident when
Den 22. sep. 2005 kl. 16.34 skrev William Robb:
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Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I dont agree with you in that the content of the images depend on
the technology. In my view the lack of content
...
jco
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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: How
of PENTAX and still cameras...
jco
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Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Gonz wrote:
Yup, and thats precisely why the green button solution is ok. We are talking
STILL photography. You have time to compose, press the green button, and
shoot.
I am amazed at some of the arguments and definitions I see today. Or
is that, one for Mark?
the realm
of PENTAX and still cameras...
jco
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Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
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LOL. He said it, I just responded accordingly.
rg
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Gonz wrote:
Yup, and thats precisely why the green button solution is ok. We are
talking STILL photography. You have time to compose, press the green
button, and shoot.
I am amazed at
@pdml.net
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Gonz wrote:
Yup, and thats precisely why the green button solution is ok. We are
talking
STILL photography. You have time to compose, press the green button, and
shoot.
I am amazed at some
into the DSLR too.
jco
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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:30 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Well, it takes less than a second to press the green button to reassure
yourself
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I don't want to do stupid unnecessary
things.
HAR!
Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to post this stuff?
(It's a joke, John)
WW
: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
You haven't tried to shoot sports in the way it is being done these days.
It's completely technology dependant now
: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Sure, in the old days a good photographer would capture one image in the
decisive moment telling the whole story .-)
JCO:
THEY HAVE BETRAYED THEIR CUSTOMERS if the policy
is now to disable older legacy products without cause which is what
they have done.
They betrayed their customers about 10-15 years ago
Pål
function for me by then. DSLRs don't age gracefully, especially when it
comes to software support.
Herb
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5
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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Well, if the *istD dont satisfy your need, why did you buy it in the first
place?
Face it, you probably shouldn't have bought Pentax in the first place. It
happens
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I think you'll have your opportunity soon enough.
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a division
running that always loses money and has not hope of making any is really
stupid.
Herb
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5
why? please enlight. what's gonna happen @Q1 2006 or shortly thereafter?
mishka
On 9/20/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it. anyone who is not profitable in the digital camera game by 1Q 2006 isn't
ever going to be.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Thank God for that. Then perhaps you can move on from your obsession
with Pentax's financial downfall.
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From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 11:20:47 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Herb,
You are a photographer. You know less than nothing about finance, or
about marketing, or about how large
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, John Forbes wrote:
bodies you want. As it is, your wholly negative and destructive attitude is
designed to do the opposite. You are a sad and unpleasant person, and I wish
you would go away, or at least restrict your contribution to subjects you
know something about.
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From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Thank God for that. Then perhaps you can move on from your obsession with
Pentax's financial
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Herb,
You are a photographer. You know less than nothing about finance, or
about marketing, or about how large corporations operate. You read a few
handouts and come on here posturing as an expert on Pentax and the
business
On 20/9/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:
You are a sad and unpleasant
person, and I wish you would go away, or at least restrict your
contribution to subjects you know something about. Photography, for
instance.
I think that's a compliment ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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Cotty wrote:
The reason they don't buy Pentax is down to marketing and availability.
If punters see a big red sign saying 'Pentax' everywhere they go, then it
eventually sits in the conscience. There are quite a few big red signs,
and it is there in the conscience. But: if punters see
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Cotty wrote:
snip Cotty's observations
Yup, yup, yup. Bingo! On all points.
He's pretty smart... for a Pom!
Christian
: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Herb,
You are a photographer. You know less than nothing about finance, or
about marketing, or about how large corporations operate. You read a few
handouts and come on here posturing as an expert on Pentax and the
business world
It is.
John
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:19:20 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20/9/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:
You are a sad and unpleasant
person, and I wish you would go away, or at least restrict your
contribution to subjects you know something about. Photography,
GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Herb,
You are a photographer. You know less than nothing about finance, or
about marketing, or about how large corporations operate. You read a
few
handouts and come on here posturing
it isnt...
JCO
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From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:43 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I just happen to believe that Herb and JCO are doing their best
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From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:43 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I just happen to believe that Herb and JCO are doing their best to damage
Pentax
PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
Don't be disingenuous. You have said repeatedly that Pentax has betrayed
its customers and can't be trusted. This is not a way to boost a company
and encourage people to buy its products
On 20/9/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
He's pretty smart... for a Pom!
Oi!
Not just a pretty face you know Vbg
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 20/9/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:
They know much more about
photography than I ever shall, but not a great deal about business, and
neither seem able to make a point without hammering it home a thousand
times.
Naw, that's just Americans for you ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
because all the first time buyers will have bought and it's only upgraders
left.
Herb
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
why
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
What Pentax choose to tell the public may be completely different from
the underlying reality, and if you were an accountant you would know that
there is no single version
here
will buy in a lifetime.
Herb...
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005
a useful
function for me by then. DSLRs don't age gracefully, especially when it
comes to software support.
Herb
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K
On 19/9/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
Simple. If the professionals aren't using the gear, then there must be
something wrong with it, or more likely, if the pros are using the gear,
then there must be something dood about it.
...something good about it.
Cheers,
Cotty
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a paraphrased comment in an equity analyst's report on Pentax last month:
Pentax has indicated that they will resume their camera marketing campaign
when the imaging products division starts to make money again.
Herb...
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To: pentax
lens quality will become an important selling point when award winning pros
start talking about their top end Pentax lenses on their top of the line
Pentax cameras giving them an edge against Canon and Nikon shooters. Pentax
should have been working on a derated clone of a Nikon D2X, but they
Cotty wrote:
Pentax should have made a thousand MZ-D cameras, introduced IS somehow,
and just *given* the gear away to accredited photographers. The gear gets
seen, it gets related to, and the entry-level gear gets purchased.
I think we'll see a high res camera with in camera IS and possibly
Herb Chong wrote:
i have had the checkbook ready for a year and there hasn't been anything
to
buy.
I think you'll have your opportunity soon enough.
Tom Reese
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From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think we'll see a high res camera with in camera IS and possibly some
other very nifty features before too long. I also expect to see more new
lenses. Pentax is continuing their product development and they're excited
about
unless it is available in 2 weeks, it's too late.
Herb...
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From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)
I think you'll have your
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