I couldn't even bring myself to make my comment...
Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training.
Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty.
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
No, just subjectively judged as good enough. Nothing to do with
where
it may fall in the balance of accepted or declined.
Well then, good enough as compared to what?
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On 9/27/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what
the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
And it's a moving target, to boot. You never know who may be voting on
your
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
The judge's criteria.(?)
Same thing as having a print accepted into a juried exhibit. Not a
competition unless ultimately vying for ribbons again other accepted
work.
Obviously not the case
Yes, the judge's criteria..what else?
Now, let's move on.(?)
Jack
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
The judge's criteria.(?)
Same thing as having a print accepted into a juried exhibit
: 27 September 2007 23:10
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Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt?
Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'?
Do you know why?
As far as the Pentax Gallery goes
William Robb wrote:
There have been occassions when a dissenting opinion has
triggered an outpouring of loathing and abuse at the
transgressor, also.
Yes, it puzzles me greatly. I just cannot imagine how deeply invested
in their views about someone else's photos these folks must be.
There
Agreed - it is irritating, and the acceptance/rejection procedure is
inconsistent. Several people have resubmitted images that were previously
declined and had them accepted.
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
overanalyzing. :-)
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
..especially kind people.
Jack
--- Tom C [EMAIL
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I don't see this as a competition. I'm not hoping to win Best of
Show, just a good enough nod.
If you are wanting to get a picture into a judged gallery, then what you are
hjoping is that your picture
We went to Crufts in London every year for 4 years...
The secret of longevity?
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:35:36 +0100
On 27/09/07, William
Cotty wrote:
I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training.
Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty.
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On 9/27/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
And I'm a bit more enthusiastic about my photography - and that has to be a
good thing...
I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo that I
submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I really don't
know ~why~)
I don't see this as a competition. I'm not hoping to win Best of
Show, just a good enough nod.
Best set your A alarm.
Jack
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Actually, I consider I'm just
On 9/28/07, Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
H
Should you send a picture of something disagreeable - but what if that were
then accepted?
We all know you take great pictures anyway, so why worry.
I'm not worried.
;-)
cheers,
frank
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Overall I find people to be too easily impressed.
I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is.
William Robb
Different sides of the same coin?
I need to back up a step. The reality is that most non-photographer people
look
Kenneth Waller wrote:
The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and
have an
initial reaction.
The same holds true for a lot of photographer people.
And that's not *necessarily* a bad thing. The tendency to
over-intellectualize and/or nit-pick can be just as unproductive
Certainly, they do. But then the brain should probably get involved.
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:32:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Overall I find people to be too easily impressed.
I find people too
Hi Frank,
I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo
that I submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I
really don't know ~why~) doesn't do much for my enthusiasm...
cheers,
frank
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Perhaps they
You obviously learned a lot from her...
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Cotty wrote:
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The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an
initial reaction.
The same holds true for alot of photographer people.
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is.
I agree.
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery
The standard is there to be seen, but you need to learn how, and then be
willing to judge your own
pictures against those of others.
Bingo !
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I've judged a few contests. They are pretty damned subjective.
You wanna see really subjective judging, start hanging out at dog shows.
Oh boy. I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. She had a
cross lab/collie called Sherpa -
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more
demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that
please just myself.
You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed, baby girls. From
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more
demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that
please just myself.
You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed baby girls. From
On 28/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Cotty wrote:
I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training.
Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty.
She trained *me* :-)
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On 28/09/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed:
You obviously learned a lot from her...
I certainly learned how to beg!
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On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical
droppings from the rear of a bull,snip
Bob,
You've got a way with words...
;-)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed, baby girls. From
my experience, totally out of focus or completely misexposed are merely not
very good. All others are excellent or superb.
Tom C wrote:
On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical
droppings from the rear of a bull,snip
Bob,
You've got a way with words...
;-)
cheers,
frank
I saw the mystical droppings from the rear of a dog lying on the sidewalk
On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical
droppings from the rear of a bull,snip
Bob,
You've got a way with words...
;-)
cheers,
frank
I saw the mystical droppings from the rear of a dog lying on the sidewalk
yesterday and almost took a
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
That's true to some extent. But on a list like this, which is largely a
social community, one has to exercise some restraint. In the past, one
member
No, just subjectively judged as good enough. Nothing to do with where
it may fall in the balance of accepted or declined.
Jack
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I don't see
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 03:01:38PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
Tom C wrote:
On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical
droppings from the rear of a bull,snip
Bob,
You've got a way with words...
;-)
cheers,
frank
I saw
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
No, just subjectively judged as good enough. Nothing to do with where
it may fall in the balance of accepted or declined.
Well then, good enough as compared to what?
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Sent: 27 September 2007 05:08
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Strange.
I really thought that you were rather competitive person, Cotty. I
am
fairly competitive
On 27/09/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Cotty has always striven to be the least competitive person. If he
finds someone less competitive than himself, he works and works, and
trains and trains until he is less competitive than the other person.
He can't stand it if someone is less
On 27/09/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
I really thought that you were rather competitive person, Cotty. I am
fairly competitive, but in photography I don't feel any desire to prove
anything. So I don't really participate in competitions...
My competitive side extends solely
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/09/27 Thu AM 03:24:42 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Gonz wrote:
Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether
Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare.
wabbit
Frank, I think your photographs are beautiful. Screw the gallery.
rg2
On 9/27/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/09/27 Thu AM 03:24:42 GMT
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip
I agree 100%!
Funny thing is, I didn't see The Pentax Gallery as a competition. I
thought that as long as the photos met a minimum standard, they were
in, and it would be a
No way it could be stated any better, Frank.
Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to
imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy
explanation..if needed.
When 'proven' laudable work is summarily declined, incentive wanes.
Jack
--- frank theriault
I can just about understand the need
for people to want to belong to something they believe in, or would like
to be a part of, but anything that by nature is exclusive does not get
my support or interest.
Cheers,
Cotty
2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow,
What's *hard* to imagine about Pentax?
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
No way it could be stated any better
: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I can just about understand the need
for people to want to belong to something they believe in, or would like
to be a part of, but anything that by nature is exclusive does not get
my support or interest.
Cheers,
Cotty
2000 people from the PDML will show up
Fascinating (in Mr Spock of Vulcan way)...
I tend to agree with you on most of the sentiments you expressed.
In fact, I kind of thought it would be competitive (the Pentax gallery
thingie) from the start. Given the fact that the submitted work is
filtered by someone else immediately implies
LOL Cory. :-)
Tom C.
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:09:46 -0400
Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7
From: ann sanfedele
Gonz wrote:
Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether
Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare.
wabbit
A wascally wabbit?
he-he-e-e-e
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On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Cotty wrote:
My competitive side extends solely to my professional life. Needs
must.
Beyond that, I'm not a keen advocate of the 'I am better than you
and I
would like it personally vindicated' philosophy.
Actually I see any photographic competition as
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
No way it could be stated any better, Frank.
Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to
imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy
explanation..if needed.
When
From: frank theriault
n 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip
I agree 100%!
Unless the prize for the winning photograph is worth having.
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: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
No way it could be stated any better, Frank.
Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to
imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy
explanation..if needed.
When 'proven' laudable work
On 27/09/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow, blocking
the door so you can't get in and quaff your thirst with a pint. Then we'll
see how you feel about exclusive. ;-)
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On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you
aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are such
that you are competing against a standard.
Question: how subjective is this standard?
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On 27/09/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:
Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7 PM
EST...so with the travel time to the U.K it's going to tighten up my day
considerably...
Ceeb I think you'd like it over here. Ever been? We could show you a
pretty nice
Actually, I consider I'm just vying for a favorable subjective opinion
from da 'judge'.
Jack
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean
you
aren't competing, it just means
2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow,
blocking
the door so you can't get in and quaff your thirst with a pint.
Tom C.
You buying ?
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax
as a competition.
If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score'
against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your choice.
Jack
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery
Cotty wrote:
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't
mean you aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the
competition are such that you are competing against a standard.
Question: how subjective is this
Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
No way it could be stated any better, Frank.
Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard
to
imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a
handy
explanation
be outstanding. If it's not designed to be that, then the
result will be something less. (Stating the obvious).
Tom C.
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:45:35
You're right, it isn't. You might look at it from the standpoint of a
vocal 'artist' who looks for applause when she stops singing.
Approval can be intoxicating.
Jack
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Cotty wrote:
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just because
On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: how subjective is this standard?
Same as all competitions: Very.
Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because,
unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target
(acceptance into the Gallery,
frank theriault wrote:
I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what
the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
And it's a moving target, to boot. You never know who may be voting on
your photo at any given time. Subjective is one thing. Variably
Subjective is one thing. Variably subjective is irritating at best.
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Gonz wrote:
Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether
Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare.
On 9/26/07, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frank, didn't you read the fine print? In Title 9, section 4,
paragraph 110, Item b) : No work shall be accepted from the class
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Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: how
USE THE FORCE, FRANK.
Tom C.
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:07:05 +0100
How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
You must
On 9/27/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pooka
Just like Harvey...
:-)
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Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29
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On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because,
unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target
(acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their
choices, but teaching myself (or
On 27/09/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what
the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
There's no explanation as to the criteria to get past the accepted
artists' voting: How many votes are
Bob W wrote:
How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind
Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and
to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the
stream. For are they not one,
, the
string, the arrow, the archer and the target are one.
Hope that helps.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of frank theriault
Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery
Subjective is one thing. Variably subjective is irritating at best.
Every photo contest I've ever entered had variable subjectivity IMO
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From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
frank
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt?
Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into
the Premiere Gallery.
I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the response
I get back from most of them is that are really impressed with the overall
manner in
On 9/28/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
crap-shoot.
Going off topic.
This phrase always brings to mind Mambo t-shirts the artwork of Reg Mombassa.
Carry on.
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..especially kind people.
Jack
--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several
into
the Premiere Gallery.
I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the
response
I get back
I agree with Mark on this.
For all of its faults, the Pentax Gallery has given my photography a bit more
focus (pun not intended). I'm not necessarily taking photos specifically aimed
at being accepted (because most aren't) but I find I'm taking more care about
composition and lighting and
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
..especially kind people.
Jack
--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several
into
the Premiere Gallery.
I've
Tom C wrote:
1. I don't want to think my images are good just because I pressed the
shutter or because I may have a personal attachment to the subject.
2. On the other hand, just because a preponderance of people seeing the
image say they like it, does not make it a good or successful
It's not bad, but most people love my photos when I show to them. Yippee!
:-)
My point is a lot more people are getting to see my images because of the
gallery.
Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery
William Robb wrote:
I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is.
William Robb
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From: Doug Franklin
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
If you're talking about image displayed on the PDML, I'd guess that at
least some of it is the self selection effect. Basically, people who
think well of the image are far more likely to post about
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From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what
the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
You can see what has been accepted can't you? The standard
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Actually, I consider I'm just vying for a favorable subjective opinion
from da 'judge'.
You may get a favourable enough opinion, and still not win the
competition, in that if your picture didn't (doesn't
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
It's a personal competition, but you're not competing against others. For
the accepted image count to be a score, everyone would have to make the
same number of submissions. I recall one PDML
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation
How can I aim for a target if I can't see it?
You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind
Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and
to guide the arrow
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Overall I find people to be too easily impressed.
I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is.
William Robb
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Well, Robb, I'm not surprised that it's being viewed as a competition.
If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score'
against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your choice
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From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you
aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are such
that you
At the risk of sounding insensitive... you can't resign from an entity you
were not a part of.
I hope this cheers you up and provides added incentive to continue. ;-)
Tom C.
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Frank they simply don't understand you the way we do.
frank theriault wrote:
Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery:
Sirs/Mesdames,
I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my
first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail,
there are
A couple things are working against you here, and neither reflects in a
negative way on your photography. One: You waited too long. Based on
observation, I'd say the gallery is getting a lot of submissions now and
accepting very few. BW street shots seem to be a small minority of the accepted
On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the risk of sounding insensitive... you can't resign from an entity you
were not a part of.
I hope this cheers you up and provides added incentive to continue. ;-)
Actually, I was a part of it in some manner.
I could vote on photos, and in fact I
Frank, here is what I think:
1. You're an excellent photographer. You really are.
2. You were somewhat late jumping on the Pentax photo gallery train. I
for one realize that with the grand amount of submitted photographs my
chances to have my work accepted are very small. I was lucky enough to
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