Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! MJ NOW FORMING MJ The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% MJ black-and-white. MJ We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join? Should I be starting the opposite club then? bg Just yesterday I was given a first roll of TMAX 100 to try out. Before

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-03 Thread Cotty
You can do almost anything in Photoshop including change the grain characteristics. If you do no other manipulation you might be right but anytime you start with digital where do you stop. ...as the actress said to the bishop. Where do you stop with anything? When does a painter know when to

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread brooksdj
Since starting the darkroom course,i have shot 1 roll of colour.I'll let you know when i jump from 99% to 100%g Dave NOW FORMING The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% black-and-white. We have two members already

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread brooksdj
Hi . For anyone who shoots HIE in the winter,how does this work out.I have taken a few lateley of coniferous trees in snow on sunny days,just trying to finish up a roll in the SP500, bracketing around the 125 at f 11 but have not finished the roll. Any comments or tips.Should have the roll done

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 1, 2003 11:10 pm, Mike Johnston wrote: NOW FORMING The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% black-and-white. We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join? So how long do we have to be pure to qualify? If we stray ?-) Nick

RE: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I have a question for the hundred percenters. Let's say you viewed the following on a good color monitor: - a dozen high-quality images that had been shot with black and white film, and - a dozen high-quality images that had been shot with color print film, then saved in grayscale. Then I

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky Subject: RE: The Hundred Percenters I have a question for the hundred percenters. Let's say you viewed the following on a good color monitor: - a dozen high-quality images that had been shot with black and white film

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Mike Johnston
Many years ago (1978) I got my first camera - Pentax MX. (This was love at first sight.) Then came the 6x7. Initially I used transparencies almost exclusively until I discovered Fred Picker and took his Zone VI workshop in Vermont. Since then I have been photographing and printing in BW

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Fair enough, William; I'll recast the question: Let's say you viewed a high-quality printout on high-qulaity paper of an uncompressed, high-resolution digital scan of a dozen... William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, since there is no way to view an image on a computer monitor

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Herb Chong
: The Hundred Percenters You can see where I'm going here: I doubt many of you would score very well. I'll bet that at least four of your dozen choices would turn out to have been shot in color. You might be right, but I'd be willing to give it a shot.

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Herb Chong
-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:57 Subject: Re: The Hundred Percenters Fair enough, William; I'll recast the question: Let's say you viewed a high-quality printout on high-qulaity paper of an uncompressed, high-resolution digital scan of a dozen... William Robb

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Cotty
Percenters, Hundred Percenters that shoot color digi, Hundred Percenters who shoot col neg family snaps, etc. We could even have Honourary Hundred Percenters who shoot color but would *like* to shoot nothing but B and W BTW, if the MF boys are in the Brotherhood, what is our collective noun

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Taz
i disagree with WR. a monitor's contrast range exceeds that of any printed medium and can easily achieve just as good color fidelity. 200dpi color monitors have been with us now for a couple of years and they are able to reproduce everything that can be captured from a color slide. these

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Herb Chong
you have a monitor that does 4K x 3K. they exist. Herb - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 13:05 Subject: Re: The Hundred Percenters Please explain this a bit further. Somewhere I'm in the dark here. If my file

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Taz
: Re: The Hundred Percenters you have a monitor that does 4K x 3K. they exist. Herb - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 13:05 Subject: Re: The Hundred Percenters Please explain this a bit further. Somewhere I'm

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters)

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you have a monitor that does 4K x 3K. they exist. Herb, 12 megapixel displays don't exist, except possibly in the rarefied world of grayscale medical CRTs. Even then, I doubt it. Maybe you're thinking of virtual desktops. On older operating systems, companies

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters)

2003-03-02 Thread Herb Chong
Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 15:03 Subject: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters) Are there other 200 dpi displays that I'm not aware of?

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters)

2003-03-02 Thread Herb Chong
the link i posted is for a color monitor. Herb - Original Message - From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 15:19 Subject: Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters) Herb Chong [EMAIL

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters)

2003-03-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Mar 2003 at 15:03, Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote: I don't believe that any 17-inch CRTs have the necessary bandwidth and horizontal scan rate to resolve 2,048 by 1,536 at a refresh rate beyond about 66 Hz. Bandwidth and optical resolution are two different things, just because a

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Mar 2003 at 12:44, Herb Chong wrote: i disagree with WR. a monitor's contrast range exceeds that of any printed medium and can easily achieve just as good color fidelity. 200dpi color monitors have been with us now for a couple of years and they are able to reproduce everything that can

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Mar 2003 at 17:56, Herb Chong wrote: http://www-3.ibm.com/solutions/lifesciences/solutions/medical.html Thanks for the link, it definitely is 200dpi but it's not a CRT. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Herb, Your first link didn't work for me (too long, even though I copied and pasted it?), but the second link did: http://www-3.ibm.com/solutions/lifesciences/solutions/medical.html OK, it's the T221 flat-panel, the same model I was talking about, now available for about $7000. But it's 9.2

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters)

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bandwidth and optical resolution are two different things, just because a monitor can sync to a HF signal doesn't mean that it can resolve it. In fact sync-ing to a frequency that is higher than the phosphor triplets can resolve leads to moire patterns

Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-02 Thread Herb Chong
: Sunday, March 02, 2003 20:18 Subject: Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters Herb, Your first link didn't work for me (too long, even though I copied and pasted it?), but the second link did: http://www-3.ibm.com/solutions/lifesciences/solutions/medical.html OK, it's the T221

The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-01 Thread Mike Johnston
NOW FORMING The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% black-and-white. We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join? --Mike

RE: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-01 Thread Hagner, Andrew
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 1, 2003 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Hundred Percenters NOW FORMING The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% black-and-white. We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join? --Mike

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-01 Thread Sid Barris
Johnston wrote: NOW FORMING The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% black-and-white. We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join? --Mike