Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Oct 2003 at 17:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, initial use suggests that for certain forms of photography the distortion is very subtle and not objectionable, and electronic compensation may mitigate it further. I'd rather see a $250 14mm lens or a $1500 full-frame DSLR, but

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-18 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Escher, another remarkable Dutchman. He didn't need a camera to get his vision across. On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 07:04, mishka wrote: i do prefer a fisheye to a rectilinear wideangle. the pictures semm to look more natural to me. i guess, i have been mc escher fan for waaay too long g best,

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-17 Thread mishka
i do prefer a fisheye to a rectilinear wideangle. the pictures semm to look more natural to me. i guess, i have been mc escher fan for waaay too long g best, mishka Ouch, that's an expensive way to provide a distorted wide angle view. Rob Studdert

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I see an absolutely stunning portrayal of the utterly bland emptiness of Suburbia. Not a single human in sight. No sidewalks. Only a single car, directly across the street, indicates the fact that humans may reside here. Huge lawns separate the

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Yeah, whatever, Cotty, Excuse me while I go grind some coffee beans. I'm sorry, you want me to put my arm ~where~ in that cow? cheers, frank vbg The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL

Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=42 Comments? Bill

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:01:35 -0400 Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=42 Comments?

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Well it looks like a 79k jpeg of a shot across the street. Artistically I rate it a 0. Technically I rate it a 0. Informationally I rate it a 1. However the exposure looks OK, if that was your point. It does make the 16mm fisheye look like a not great 24mm (too much distortion for a rectilinear

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/ shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=42 Comments? Bill Is that a small white

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
See why I don't usually do critiques? Yes, because no one can do anything that meets your expectations

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
It's the moon. I posted this to show how much less distortion there is using just the center of this lens instead of full frame. Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Its hard to tell while I'm on my laptop, but it looks a tad underexposed to me. Cheers, rg Bill Owens wrote: Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter.

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: It's the moon. I posted this to show how much less distortion there is using just the center of this lens instead of full frame. Right. So, if it's a 16mm

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Cotty wrote: On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: It's the moon. I posted this to show how much less distortion there is using just the center of this lens instead of full frame. Right. So, if it's a 16mm, it's acting like a 24mm on the *ist D, no? If correct, it's

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
I'm curious about the DA lenses too. Figure the Zenit will serve until they become available. Bill - Original Message - From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD On Wed, 15

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:17:21 -0400 Well it looks like a 79k jpeg of a shot across the street. Artistically I rate it a 0. Technically I rate it a 0. Informationally I rate it a 1. However the exposure looks OK, if that was your point. It does make the 16mm

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
, don't say anything at all. The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:17

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
I thought it was Pulitzer material. On second reading it's pure BS after all. :-) Bill - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD Yeah, Bill, I'm pullin

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:53:46 -0400 Now, I believe you used to be a lawyer, Frank. You have a great future as an art critic as well. Bill also does test