Re: Grain desolving programs
On Dec 20, 2004, at 11:45 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Unfortunately attempting to eliminate image noise/grain via the use of edge masks gives quite poor results compared to the better dedicated noise removal tools. I use edge masking techniques after grain removal on occasion but it is really image dependent, the effect can make some images look quite un-natural. In my case, I'm mostly concerned about reducing red channel noise from skies from my digital camera, so I would suppose that a simple masking and performing this on just the sky would not be too much of an issue. Thanks! -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - A Pair of Birds
Hi, snip The sparrow population in England has collapsed in recent years. Perhaps they all evolved into something exotic and we never noticed. snip Don't be silly, Bob. There's no such thing as evolution. Opps, sorry. Perhaps they were all intelligently redesigned. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
Interesting, but could such a thing be used to eliminate the reduced frame size of the average dSLR? On Dec 21, 2004, at 4:29 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Similar to the bundled fibre concept which allowed the implementation of NPC Polaroid backs however with a twist, or a squeeze I should say :-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
From my previous post to this thread, large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's economical to implement, this concept could bypass the low yield problems that make big CCDs cost so much more than several small CCDs of the equivalent combined area. regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, but could such a thing be used to eliminate the reduced frame size of the average dSLR?
Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
On Dec 21, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's economical to implement, this concept could bypass the low yield problems that make big CCDs cost so much more than several small CCDs of the equivalent combined area. Sorry, but somehow, I didn't see that post But this is fascinating information. :-) Thanks. -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from slides/negatives direct to digital camera
A few days ago, I think this discussion came up, about how worthy it was to consider using a digital camera to convert slides, etc. I just last night discovered the following web page. It's pretty interesting. :-) http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/photo/slide-transfer.html -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentax lens screw sizes, help please
Okay, one for the engineers on the list. Do you know what the screw size is for a typical Pentax K mount lens - the kind that hold the actual K mount bayonet flange onto the rear of the lens? I appreciate that lengths may vary according to lens, but the width and the thread type seem to be standard, at least with SMC K and A lenses, or at least the ones I have come across. How would you describe these screws - cross-head, countersunk screws or bolts? And as for size and thread type - is there a particular recognised nomenclature? Someone quoted 'BA' sizes at me, is this relevant? Any help very much appreciated. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: Breaking in the Hallway
On 20/12/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2973964 Interesting. I like the composition, although I wish I saw the face or at least the head of the guy in the center of the frame. That's actually Frank having an 'out of body' experience. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO -- Front Door
On 21/12/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html Strangely likeable. You enjoy a blue cast ? Even the ribbon is bluey. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax lens screw sizes, help please
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what the screw size is for a typical Pentax K mount lens - the kind that hold the actual K mount bayonet flange onto the rear of the lens? There are 2 I am aware of - CNL-D2.0x2.5 and CNL-D2.0x3.5 (width length). Almost all lenses use CNL-D2.0x2.5, even the heavy FA*200/2.8 FA*300/4.5. Camera mounts use 2.0x3.5, but the head is different so the code should be different. Over the years the heads appear slightly different, but practically interchangable. You may order these screws from Pentax. = Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com
Re: PESO -- Front Door
No snow? Maris Peter J. Alling wrote: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html As usual comments are welcome but may be completely ignored.
PESO: On the Mantle
I was playing with the *istD and the M35/2 the other night. I hadn't used this lens in low light for quite a while and wanted to see how it performed at big aps. I shot this wide open under tungsten light. Kind of fun and nicely seasonal: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2975258size=lg
RE: PESO -- Front Door
Hi Peter it does not work for me this way: - because the left sign on the wall is not completely visible - because it has a red tint here on my monitor - it's not sharp enough - the details are not interesting enough (for me) greetings Markus I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html As usual comments are welcome but may be completely ignored.
RE: PESO: And now, something completely different
Hi Juan a nice shot, looks like a part of a road movie to me. Bigger size would impress me even more ;-) thanks for showing it. Markus http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0149.html Not street stuff, but I kind of like the colors. I took it from the car in Wyoming in September, on my way to Ohio. Juan Buhler
Re: FS: SMC Pentax K 24mm f/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 24mm f/2.5, EX+
I have a tulip hood (52mm) that came with a Sigma 28mm f2.8 macro that fits the K24. I had to grind the hood just a little on the inside of the tulip where it affects image corners to avoid vignetting, but didn't need to remove anything from the outer parts. Works well. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Joe ... I'd like to see a pic of that Sigma hood and how it fits on the K24. Possible? Where might I get such a hood? For which Sigma lens is it designed? Shel [Original Message] From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/17/2004 9:07:55 AM Subject: FS: SMC Pentax K 24mm f/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 24mm f/2.5, EX+ For sale: Pentax SMC K 24mm f/2.8 lens. Excellent plus, really beautiful and hardly used condition. One of the (many) really nice primes of the original K series! See its specs on Boz's site at: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/ultra-wide/K24f2.8.html Original front rear caps included, plus I'll include a wide-angle Sigma perfect hood that is a nice hood option for this lens as it is much smaller than the rectangular Pentax hood and tulip shaped. $175 includes Priority Mail shipping in the continental U.S., postage is additional to other areas.
RE: from slides/negatives direct to digital camera
Hi Jon interesting stuff and since scanning in high resolution for a lot of slides is so slow, I would be nice to just use a digicam. But if the slides are not in very good condition - dust and scratch free and intact colors - this is, sadly no way for me. Somebody has to invent an ICE-Filter combined with a Polar-Filter for Digicams first :-) greetings Markus A few days ago, I think this discussion came up, about how worthy it was to consider using a digital camera to convert slides, etc. I just last night discovered the following web page. It's pretty interesting. :-) http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/photo/slide-transfer.html -- -Jon Glass
RE: PESO: On the Mantle
Hi Paul lovely and colorful Kitsch :-) thanks for showing it. Markus -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: On the Mantle I was playing with the *istD and the M35/2 the other night. I hadn't used this lens in low light for quite a while and wanted to see how it performed at big aps. I shot this wide open under tungsten light. Kind of fun and nicely seasonal: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2975258size=lg
Re: Grain desolving programs
On 21 Dec 2004 at 8:58, Jon Glass wrote: In my case, I'm mostly concerned about reducing red channel noise from skies from my digital camera, so I would suppose that a simple masking and performing this on just the sky would not be too much of an issue. Yes generally much simpler than edge masking then blurring, but still not as effective as a dedicated profile based noise reduction application masked or otherwise. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: Blue
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very, very nice. I like the .htm better. More saturated colours, I believe. Exactly the same image, actually (the HTML just calls up the JPG file). It must be the black background that makes it appear different. Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. december 2004 04:07 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PESO: Blue Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Mark, stop teasing! Give us a good link. ;-) How about two? g Here's what I should have posted: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/blue.jpg Here's what I *did* post: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/blue.htm Both work now ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Blue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like it. The highlights in the water are very nice. And the beadis form interesting shapes. I could be even happier without that dark area in the upper right, but it's a good shot. Thanks. Oddly enough, I never would have thought of composing this shot *without* that dark area in the upper right. I feel it needs to look different from the lower left section. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Motion blur
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks totally unlike anything Mark Roberts would ever do LOL. And what higher compliment could there be? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:17:04 -0500, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/0656.htm shudder ;-) Mark, Clearly, you PS'ed my eyes 1/2 shut, to create the illusion that I'd had a few beers that evening, which is clearly not true. In fact, IIRC, I started drinking about noon that day... Do you remember who took that photo? It was with my camera but I don't *think* it was me but I'm not certain... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO -- Front Door
On 21 Dec 2004 at 2:44, Peter J. Alling wrote: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html As usual comments are welcome but may be completely ignored. 'Tis the season to be jolly... maybe you should ask Santa for a monitor calibrator? :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: from slides/negatives direct to digital camera
Thanks for the info. I've bunch shot periodically over the past 2 1/2 decades that need converted and my folks have a few thousand that were shot in the 50s 60s with the old Kodak Pony 135. In that vein, yesterday my son came home with this neat little Elmo unit. Put a Carousel slide tray on top and display them on a monitor. Composite or split video (with optional sync-on-green), complete with genlock. Really pretty nifty. Now to make the light source more consistent (it's just a little 24v bulb) and run the video into a computer. Instant slide shows. He'll probably stick it on eBay pretty soon, though. He wants this Jetta down the road and ... Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: PESO: On the Mantle
Your welcome. Thanks for commenting. Paul On Dec 21, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Paul lovely and colorful Kitsch :-) thanks for showing it. Markus -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: On the Mantle I was playing with the *istD and the M35/2 the other night. I hadn't used this lens in low light for quite a while and wanted to see how it performed at big aps. I shot this wide open under tungsten light. Kind of fun and nicely seasonal: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2975258size=lg
RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
-Original Message- From: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) . But this is fascinating information. :-) Thanks. I should point out that it's my speculation, not information from any source. It's my amalgam of two existing concepts. One concept is that more than one CCD can form an imaging sensor array. This has been implemented in digi sensors for large format cameras. The small amount of missing picture data where the two sensors adjoin is synthesised by interpolation. My feeling is that 35mm sized cameras would be too small for this process to have acceptable quality. However, the Schott concepts that Rob pointed out would permit two or more sensors to be connected to the focal plane by tapered fibre bundles, so there would be no gaps regardless of how far apart the separate sensors might be. The other concept I considered is that the difficulty of producing imaging chips rises exponentially with area, as does their cost. So we find that a chip that is, say, 4 times larger than another will be much more than 4 times costlier. IIRC the typical APS sized 6 MP chip alone often costs as much or more than an entire 6 MP point and shoot camera with a 2/3 format chip. Unless the cost of big chips can be reigned in the Schott solution, implemented as I speculate, could have better economy regards, Anthony Farr
RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
On 22 Dec 2004 at 0:34, Anthony Farr wrote: Unless the cost of big chips can be reigned in the Schott solution, implemented as I speculate, could have better economy Indeed, using the Fused Fibre Optic components an 8MP 1.6x APS sensor could be transformed to cover the area of a 24x36mm frame and effectively increase its ISO. It's a pity is not likely to be viable in the near future in the case of consumer DSLRs. Interesting stuff all the same and a blindingly simple concept. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: TTL with K and M on D
2. David, can't you limit the output of your flash as I can here with the Metz's and the Pentax AF280T. Then flash would work in auto mode even closer than 50cm. What close up distances are talking about, less than 20 cm? Yes, around 20cm, f22, flash at full power, handheld, reproduction ratio 1:2 with 135mm and some extension tubes. It is a Sunpak 383 Super, maybe it can work this close in auto mode but I don't trust it any more as I need to use the full power of the flash to get to f22 and I don't think auto can work this close and give accurate exposures. Right now I measure and set everything at home and then when I am taking a picture I just repeat the whole setup and leave focus at the same point and just focus with my head, reproduction ratio is always the same as that is the only way this can work. I think that TTL flash would solve all my problems, I would not have to calculate anything or be at the same distance and focus point all the time, I could even take the flash of camera and provide better lighting. I keep it on the camera right now to keep constant distance between the flash and the subject. Distance measurement has to be exact as at these distances every inch matters regarding flash. I was also shooting film until now so I would not know if exposure is ok until I develop the slides, it is much easier with digital. :)
Re: FA77 aperture need help
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan Subject: Re: FA77 aperture need help I have a feeling that yours is stopping down a bit far. Thanks William. I checked my pic again and somehow the wide angle effect seemed to affect the proportion a little. Does this picture look closer to your lens? http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/aperture.jpg GAAK. It's so hard to tell. Here's another look at mine. Shot with the FA50/1.4 at about .54 meters. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/IMGP6623 I suspect that you may have to physically compare your lens to another specimen. On a side topic, about 30 years ago, I competed in fencing against an Asian guy named Alan Chan from Vanvouver. That wasn't you was it? William Robb
Re: What a Rack!
- Original Message - From: Raimo K Subject: Re: What a Rack! That would be good news for us motorcyclists. And very bad news for the Inuit. William Robb
Re: dpreview gets round to the Optio S5i
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Cotty wrote: On 20/12/04, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxs5i/ Took a while didn't it! They seem to like it. I wonder what they would say if they didn't. I know what image quality is good but not great means; is it normal for these things? Also, is this shot-to-shot thing not a big deal? Kostas
hooked on AF
Ok, I am now hooked on autofocus with 16-45/4, what are my options for extending that to pentax telephoto zoom with constant f4. Is any other brand producing something like that if there is no pentax solution available ? I already have constant f2.8 80-200 but it is manual focus and it is heavy. :) As this is for D where ISO200 is the lowest and viewfinder is much brighter then on my ZX-M, I don't mind the f4 but I am affraid that f5.6 would spoil things.
Still FS: SMC Pentax K 24mm f/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 24mm f/2.5, EX+
Last chance before eBay: Pentax SMC K 24mm f/2.8 lens. Excellent plus, really beautiful and hardly used condition. One of the (many) really nice primes of the original K series! http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/SMCK_24_kit.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/SMCK_24_top.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/SMCK_24_side.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/SMCK_24_rear.jpg See its specs on Boz's site at: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/ultra-wide/K24f2.8.html Original front rear caps included, plus I'll include a wide-angle Sigma perfect hood that is a nice hood option for this lens as it is much smaller than the rectangular Pentax hood and tulip shaped. Here's a picture of the lens, mounted on a Super Program, with the hood in place: http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/24_oncamerawithhood.jpg $160 includes Priority Mail shipping in the continental U.S., postage is additional to other areas. Also still available (for a less expensive 24mm prime lens): Tamron Adaptall II 24mm f/2.5 lens, 55mm filter size. Purchased from KEH in EX+ condition in July. Lens is extremely clean and clear. Dust specks in photos are only on the exterior. This is a nicely made lens with very good build quality and very good manual focus feel that is a fine-performing, more-affordable substitute for a genuine Pentax 24mm lens. Lens includes front and rear (Adaptall) caps. Add a screwmount, ES/ESII screwmount, K, or KA Adaptall adapter to this lens for full functionality on any Pentax camera! $100 including shipping in the continental U.S., a bit more to other areas. http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Tamron_24_side.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Tamron_side.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Tamron_rear.jpg Joe
Re: OT: Ink or Laser printing
Makes judging quality easy then, don't it... Cotty wrote: All my pro quality prints are completely jet black. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
That dog needs to be groomed... He looks a bit worried, as if 'someone' was going to steel his burger. You did a good job in getting detail in a very black object however. I think that everyone who uses digital cameras should read (or re-read), everything about the Zone system. Don Sanderson wrote: This is the critter that joined my household one week ago and has caused quite a commotion: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Whitley.htm 8yr old Cocker with his favorite 'Squeaky Toy', the burger. I have NEVER seen an animal as hard to photograph! He is jet black with no gloss and eyes that light up a brighter yellow under flash than any cat I've ever seen. This is with main and small fill flash, just a JPG snapshot but the only one so far that shows the dog and not just a black spot in space. :-( It's like taking a picture of a light-trap! That burger is a very dirty brown. ist D and ATX 80-200/2.8 at 200/8-ISO 200 Q+D burn on the eyes. Don (Any suggestions on pics of black things welcome!) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: hooked on AF
Is F70-210/4-5.6 my best option ? If that only was constant f4. :) - Original Message - From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: hooked on AF Ok, I am now hooked on autofocus with 16-45/4, what are my options for extending that to pentax telephoto zoom with constant f4. Is any other brand producing something like that if there is no pentax solution available ? I already have constant f2.8 80-200 but it is manual focus and it is heavy. :) As this is for D where ISO200 is the lowest and viewfinder is much brighter then on my ZX-M, I don't mind the f4 but I am affraid that f5.6 would spoil things.
Re: OT: Ink or Laser printing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graywolf wrote: LOL! Okay, call me simple minded, but I don't get it. Jet black prints? That's humorous?? If it's photographic and it's not black it's not 'professional'... LOL! graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: All my pro quality prints are completely jet black. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: OT: Ink or Laser printing
Hi, What do you think about a Pixma IP4000? It also uses BCI6 cartidges, btw. Alex Sarbu On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:57:53 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am in the market for a new printer to print off a few images from time to time and occasional other stuff as well. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon Hi Leon. I have not had a chance to look at all the responses but i think an inkjet would suit you best for occasional prints. I am a Canon printer lover,and i have the S800 which has had newer version's since then. I think any of the **900** models are good and and not overly expensive,from what i se at Staples and Best Buy. Archive wise,the BCI 6 inks are ~supposed~to be 75 years,and they have individual inks so no waste.. Good luck on your quest. Dave
Re: PAW: What a Rack!
Shouldn't that be 'pair' of racks... It looks a bit over sharpened to me, (and I certainly know how to over sharpen a print), though it could just be the resolution. Otherwise a very nice capture. Kenneth Waller wrote: Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html *ist D, 600mm FA, ISO 200, Gitzo 1548, Kirk King Cobra Head. Comments: Yea, Nay or otherwise. Thanks in advance for looking commenting. Kenneth Waller -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PAW: What a Rack!
--- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Waller wrote on 12/19/2004, 9:00 PM: Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html All of a sudden, I can't see these pics any more. I see the web page and the caption but no pic. Not even a red x or anything. I'm using Mozilla 1.7 I used to be able to view Kenneth's pics but not any more. Something's changed and I don't know what! Any ideas? (can see it in IE). Wendy
Re: hooked on AF
I've been relatively pleased with the performance of the FA 80-320/4-5.6. It's an inexpensive consumer zoom, but the results are quite acceptable to my eye. Paul Is F70-210/4-5.6 my best option ? If that only was constant f4. :) - Original Message - From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: hooked on AF Ok, I am now hooked on autofocus with 16-45/4, what are my options for extending that to pentax telephoto zoom with constant f4. Is any other brand producing something like that if there is no pentax solution available ? I already have constant f2.8 80-200 but it is manual focus and it is heavy. :) As this is for D where ISO200 is the lowest and viewfinder is much brighter then on my ZX-M, I don't mind the f4 but I am affraid that f5.6 would spoil things.
Re: PESO -- Front Door
The slight bluish tint makes it look cold to me. A poor substitute for snow, I admit. But then renting a snow machine is so damn expensive. I like it just as it is. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Rob Studdert wrote: On 21 Dec 2004 at 2:44, Peter J. Alling wrote: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html As usual comments are welcome but may be completely ignored. 'Tis the season to be jolly... maybe you should ask Santa for a monitor calibrator? :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.1 - Release Date: 12/20/2004
PDML Mini-FAQ
Two days late this time, sorry, I had medical things on my mind. To which I can now say that all of you claiming I don't have a brain are wrong. I had a picture taken of it yesterday, so know there it is still there. -- http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Posted every Sunday (if I remember). --- This is a mini-FAQ for the PDML (Pentax Discussion Mailing List) Last revised:2004.08.17 UNSUBSCRIBING-- To unsubscribe from the PDML you need to send a message with unsubscribe as the subject to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sending an unsubscribe message to the list will get you nothing but a bunch of silly replies. WHY WAS I KICKED OFF THE LIST--About the only thing that gets you kicked of the list is bouncing e-mail. Check that your mailbox at your ISP is not full. It is best if you download all mail from this list, and any other mailing lists you may be on, to your computer and erase the messages in your ISP mailbox. AFAIK all mail clients will let you do that. LIST MEMBERS-- Remember that the people here on the PDML live all over the world. Their Customs, languages, beliefs, religions, values, and most of all their SENSE OF HUMOR may vary. Always take this into consideration when reading or replying to their comments. Also their command of English may not be up to your standards (mine isn't, and it is my native language), but think about how you would do in their language and give them a break. 99.9% of the people on this list are great wonderful terrific (add 16 more superlatives of your choice here) people who anyone would be glad to have as friends. I, especially, know this because many have gone out of their way to help me from time to time. POLITICS/RELIGION-- Since some of us, me up toward the top of the list, can not seem to remain civil in these kinds of discussions we very much prefer not to have threads about them on the list. This is violated often, until someone goes off the deep end and then most of us shut up. CAT PHOTOS-- A former popular list participant swore he would leave the list if anyone mentioned guns again, or posted a link to a cat picture. He left anyway which shows that you might as will ignore such stuff. However, many consider Guns/Abortion/Etc as part of Politics and Religion, so generally they should be avoided. Although Cat Photos are now, seemingly, OK again. FOR SALE-- Use the following as guidelines. Pentax stuff anytime, although many only want to have to look on Fridays, and prefer For Sale Fridays. Most of us would prefer that you limit any non-Pentax stuff to Fridays as well. Regular list members only, please. EBAY-- It is all right to mention your own auctions. Do not mention other items until the auction is over (common courtesy). An exception is obviously funny and BS stuff like the 11 million dollar Canon 1Ds digital, or non-photographic stuff like the wedding dress that was the basis of a long thread here a while back. FLAMES/TROLLS-- People who can not keep from continually attacking others, or who insist on trying to incite folks to anger should be totally ignored, these are the only folks I filter out of my mail stream, and I would suggest everyone else do the same. For they will, if they have their way, destroy the nicest mailing list on the Internet. Note: losing your cool now and then is not the same thing at all, or I would have to killfile my own posts (embarrassed grin). COLONS (:) in subject line-- it has been pointed out that some mail readers treat anything with a colon in the subject like a RE: or SV: (both mean the samething) and that can mess up threaded mail readers. So try to use -- instead if you feel the need to separate things in the subject line. These are the only ones I can think of that have mass general agreement, though common courtesy is always appreciated here. Some folks do not like the off topic stuff, but we who engage in it are usually the old timers here, and are not going to pay much attention to them (grin). --- ACRONYMS: HAR!, GRIN!, Etc-- Indications that the post/comment was meant to be humorous, and that you should not take it too seriously. There are a lot of Variations on these, but they all mean various degrees of the same thing. Of course a few folks here just use the old fashioned smiley. :) PUG-- Pentax Users Gallery. A monthly gallery of photos by PDML members. Things there are kind of up in the air right now. As soon as the maintainer says we have a permanent solution, I will add a link here. PAW-- Photo A Week (also PESO-- Photo Every So Often), a thing introduced to the list a while back by Shel Belinkoff where you can put up a photo you want commented on and folks will tell you how you should have done it (grin). WOW-- Workover Of the Week (or WOrkshop a Week), similar to the above where you post a photo somewhere that folks can download it, and they run it through Photo Shop or whatever to show you how they would have done it. Seems like a good learning tool, but I have not seen any lately. OTHER
Re: PESO: And now, something completely different
Nicely done. I love simple road shots. Perhaps a theme for a future PUG??? Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 21, 2004 2:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: And now, something completely different http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0149.html Not street stuff, but I kind of like the colors. I took it from the car in Wyoming in September, on my way to Ohio. I am amazed at the detail in the full-res file. ist D, FA35/2, ISO200 at f8. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: hooked on AF
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, David Zaninovic wrote: Is F70-210/4-5.6 my best option ? If that only was constant f4. :) In the past year I went full circle from *SMC* F70-210 - Stigma 70-300 Macro S - Pentax FA80-320 - SMC A 70-21-/4 - SMC F70-210. In the process I returned two broken SMC-Fs (one from a shop), a broken Sigma, failed to win an FA80-320 in a couple of occasions and finally got an excellent SMC-F at the same time I got an SMC-A (now travelling towards a fellow list member). You have a small problem, in that you have a 25mm gap around the useful 85mm FL (35mm equivalent) between that and the 16-45. I believe it's Joe who will chime in with vigour here :-))) Kostas
Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 3:57:36 PM, Rob wrote: RS On 22 Dec 2004 at 0:34, Anthony Farr wrote: Unless the cost of big chips can be reigned in the Schott solution, implemented as I speculate, could have better economy RS Indeed, using the Fused Fibre Optic components an 8MP 1.6x APS sensor could be RS transformed to cover the area of a 24x36mm frame and effectively increase its RS ISO. It's a pity is not likely to be viable in the near future in the case of RS consumer DSLRs. Interesting stuff all the same and a blindingly simple concept. Very interesting. I think this concept was also talked about by some Leicaphiles as a means of using non-retrofocal wideangles on a digital chip. I am sorry I don't understand why the ISO would increase? Am I just tired today (i.e. dumb) g ? Good light! fra
RE: PESO: On the Mantle
Hi Paul ... I kind of like this. The softer focus lends a nice touch - almost a glow - to what might otherwise be a rather mundane shot. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was playing with the *istD and the M35/2 the other night. I hadn't used this lens in low light for quite a while and wanted to see how it performed at big aps. I shot this wide open under tungsten light. Kind of fun and nicely seasonal: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2975258size=lg
Re: safe Flash Sync Voltages
A few years ago when I got a ZX-5n I was cautioned by the salesman to check flash voltages. I emailed Vivitar to check out the 283 I had purchased a year earlier. There are no serial numbers on these units. There are stamped with the country of origin. I was told that the units made in China were around 10 volts and would be safe for newer cameras. By the way, they answered the email within 24 hours. I've used it on the 5n and istD with no problems. It doesn't have all the snazzy features of a 360fgz. No zoom, no P-ttl, etc. The 283 is characterized by power and simple predictability. These old units are workhorses and are still being sold because they work so well. See you later, gs -- George Sinos e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://georgesoptions.net Photos: http://georgesphotos.net --
Re: [Autoreply] Re: Magifier FB - Question
This is really getting old... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I'm away untill January 12th Your email has been forwarded to my web mail address and I will pick these up from time to time. If its urgent please contact Joan Reed for Chest Clinic stuff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Sonya Johnston for lung function stuff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Pam or Martine for sleep lab stuiff ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks, Andrew -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: hooked on AF
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: You have a small problem, in that you have a 25mm gap around the useful 85mm FL (35mm equivalent) between that and the 16-45. I believe it's Joe who will chime in with vigour here :-))) Yeah... it'd be nice if Pentax released something like the Nikon 18-70mm DX. I had a brief play with one on a colleague's D70 the other day - it's a nice focal length range for APS-C cameras, and the quality seemed perfectly acceptable... S
Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
Frantisek wrote: I am sorry I don't understand why the ISO would increase? Am I just tired today (i.e. dumb) g ? You're capturing light from a larger area, so more light hits the sensor, so you can use a lower ISO setting. I'm not sure I'd have chosen to describe this as effectively increasing the ISO, but I think that's what Rob meant... S
RE: PESO: On the Mantle
Thanks Shel, The glow is also a natural attribute of these rather high quality handblown glass ornaments under soft tungsten light. But you're right the limited depth of field is also an advantage here. At such a short shooting distance, only the eyes are in focus. Paul Hi Paul ... I kind of like this. The softer focus lends a nice touch - almost a glow - to what might otherwise be a rather mundane shot. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was playing with the *istD and the M35/2 the other night. I hadn't used this lens in low light for quite a while and wanted to see how it performed at big aps. I shot this wide open under tungsten light. Kind of fun and nicely seasonal: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2975258size=lg
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
On 21/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Two days late this time, sorry, I had medical things on my mind. To which I can now say that all of you claiming I don't have a brain are wrong. I had a picture taken of it yesterday, so know there it is still there. You and me belong in the same club Graywolf. I had a CAT scan once. Paid £10 and got a copy of the images. I should photograph it and post it up... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: hooked on AF
perfectly acceptable ??? I think you just coined a brand new oxymoron. :) JCO -Original Message- From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: hooked on AF Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: You have a small problem, in that you have a 25mm gap around the useful 85mm FL (35mm equivalent) between that and the 16-45. I believe it's Joe who will chime in with vigour here :-))) Yeah... it'd be nice if Pentax released something like the Nikon 18-70mm DX. I had a brief play with one on a colleague's D70 the other day - it's a nice focal length range for APS-C cameras, and the quality seemed perfectly acceptable... S
Re: Takumar 135 F4 Macro for 6x7 used ??
You have to figure that it will cost at least $100.00 to have it cleaned professionally. The internal rubs may be something worse than a poor cleaning job, it could be element separation. The question becomes is this lens worth so much that you are willing to throw away that much if it can't be repaired. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please see the description below, regarding a comment on a mark on the rear element. Just wondering if its worth going after this and getting it cleaned by a repair shop or just leave it until a better one comes along. The price is $195.00 US dollars. Thanks Dave This is a quote from sales listing: This lens is in fair physical condition, showing normal signs of use. There's lots of paint wear visible, on the edges of the knurled grips, on the edge of the filter ring and on the mount. There are a few small surface scratches in the finish here and there, and there are some scratches on the lens barrel near the front edge, I think it's from a shade being mounted. There is a small dent in the filter ring, but a filter still mounts snug. The glass is clean and fungus free, absolutely perfect except for a very few tiny dust particles which 'do not' seem to affect the optical performance. There are some marks on the inside of the rear element (almost as if someone has taken it apart, cleaned it half-heartedly, and put it back together). This may soften the edge of your images, but I think it can be easily cleaned. Its focus system is very smooth and operating very well. I see a couple of spots of residue on the aperture blades, not sure if its oil or not. The blades open and close nice and quick, though. Serial number range is 65009xx. Made in Japan by Asahi Optical. Comes with front lens cap. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: hooked on AF
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Steve Jolly wrote: Yeah... it'd be nice if Pentax released something like the Nikon 18-70mm DX. Theoretically* I would rather they did a 45-135 (67.5-202.5 equiv) or something, to match the 16-45's characteristics (around 3x zoom, constant f4, good quality) and complement it. Kostas * As I am not on the digital bandwagon, so I won't exactly buy it tomorrow, though I am told I will have to get on it, so I claim to have an opinion :-))
Re: TTL with K and M on D
No. David Zaninovic wrote: Thanks. What about P-TTL ? - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: TTL with K and M on D David Zaninovic wrote on 20.12.04 17:34: Will TTL flash work with K and M maual focus lenses on D ? Yes. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: hooked on AF
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote: perfectly acceptable ??? I think you just coined a brand new oxymoron. Perfectly qualifies acceptable, not whatever acceptable qualifies. Cf maybe right. Kostas
Re: Hot Pixel Survey Results (finally) (was: Dead Pixel Testing)
A pixel that records a high light value even in the dark, (well that's the best concise description I can give without a lot of further thought. just remember there are no absolutes). Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's a hot pixel? Shel -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Christmas enablement.
Ah, the idealism of youth and the cynicism of old age, in one package... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Christmas enablement. On 20/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I'll wait for the istDn. How old are you Bill? Young enough to hope it happens in my lifetime, old enough to fear otherwise.. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: New Tests Show Memory Cards Safe In X-Rays
It can damage electronics as well, I guess they weren't trying very hard to kill the memory card. (Especially if they are fogging developed film). Frits Wüthrich wrote: It also states you have to be carefull with film, as it can fog developed and non-developed film. I always thought it could only fog undeveloped film? On Sunday 19 December 2004 23:59, Cotty wrote: FJW http://www.dpreview.com/news/0412/04121602digitalfilmxray.asp FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW Cheers, FJW Cotty FJW FJW FJW ___/\__ FJW || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche FJW ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com FJW _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: MX - light meter wonky
Could be the meter switch contacts inside the camera. I had that problem with one of mine. Bruce Dayton wrote: Wondering if there are any hints as to quirks with the MX. Picked on up for my daughter the other day. She shot about half of one roll with it last night and the light meter went dead. I figured the battery was probably dead and so purchased new ones and put them in today. Still seems to be dead. Any thoughts? Any tricks like oxidized contacts, etc? Thanks, Bruce -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
I grew up in a very poor town, and the doctor was so poor he couldn't afford a cat scan. In fact, he couldn't even afford an x-ray machine. He'd hold his patients up to the light ... Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] You and me belong in the same club Graywolf. I had a CAT scan once. Paid £10 and got a copy of the images. I should photograph it and post it up...
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
On 21/12/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: I grew up in a very poor town, and the doctor was so poor he couldn't afford a cat scan. In fact, he couldn't even afford an x-ray machine. He'd hold his patients up to the light ... LOL. That was a strong light! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: hooked on AF
IMHO, Something that can only be deemed as acceptable should never be associated with the word perfect in any way, shape, or form... So sue me JCO -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: hooked on AF On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote: perfectly acceptable ??? I think you just coined a brand new oxymoron. Perfectly qualifies acceptable, not whatever acceptable qualifies. Cf maybe right. Kostas
Re: Christmas enablement.
Funny, that's about what I heard as well. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Christmas enablement. On 20/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Young enough to hope it happens in my lifetime, old enough to fear otherwise.. Actually if it's an *ist D mark 2 then waddya think, maybe this coming fall? The girl at the camera store thinks PMA. I believe that's in February. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: New Tests Show Memory Cards Safe In X-Rays
But what's the fun in that? Tom C wrote: I suspect it should have said exposed and unexposed film. Tom C. From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Tests Show Memory Cards Safe In X-Rays Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:36:45 +0100 It also states you have to be carefull with film, as it can fog developed and non-developed film. I always thought it could only fog undeveloped film? On Sunday 19 December 2004 23:59, Cotty wrote: FJW http://www.dpreview.com/news/0412/04121602digitalfilmxray.asp FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW Cheers, FJW Cotty FJW FJW FJW ___/\__ FJW || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche FJW ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com FJW _ -- Frits Wüthrich -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PAW: Breaking in the Hallway
Nice composition, I like it. frank theriault wrote: I was at a party, and there were some people break-dancing. I went into the hallway, and found these two practicing, with some observers: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2973964 Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
Um... You guys actually belong to a club where it's necessary to *prove* that you have a brain?!? Jostein :-) - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: Re: PDML Mini-FAQ On 21/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Two days late this time, sorry, I had medical things on my mind. To which I can now say that all of you claiming I don't have a brain are wrong. I had a picture taken of it yesterday, so know there it is still there. You and me belong in the same club Graywolf. I had a CAT scan once. Paid £10 and got a copy of the images. I should photograph it and post it up... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: Breaking in the Hallway
Which begs the question, what could Frank have possibly sent Shel, the mind boggles. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Faces are nicer and more interesting to look at than asses ;-)) I'd love to see some of the other frames you shot. Your package arrived today. Haven't opened it yet ... Thanks! Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was at a party, and there were some people break-dancing. I went into the hallway, and found these two practicing, with some observers: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2973964 -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech
Actually HP already has software for intelligently stitching picture segments together. It might be feasible. Anthony Farr wrote: Judging by the picture, it also seems that large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's economical to implement, this concept could bypass the low yield problems that make big CCDs cost so much more than several small CCDs of the equivalent combined area. regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similar to the bundled fibre concept which allowed the implementation of NPC Polaroid backs however with a twist, or a squeeze I should say :-) http://www.schott.com/fiberoptics/english/products/ccd.html Cheers, Rob Studdert -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: A KX Newbie Has Questions
The thought never crossed my mind, honest.. Ann Sanfedele wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: I may be getting a recently CLA'd KX from a list member. I've never had a K camera, or even used one, until quite recently, when the Kamera gods smiled upon me and proffered a KM. So, for you KX fans and experienced users, what may be the weak points, what should be checked, and are there any unusual operational quirks to be aware of. Seems pretty straightforward and Spottie-like, but asking here seems to be a good idea. Did a few web searches and lots of folks seem to be very satisfied with their KX. BTW, I love the KM, so the thought of a KX has me pretty excited. Shel Shel, its a fabulous manual camera - the only flaw - it is a little heavier than an LX. check the screws on the base plate now and then to make sure they are tight... I lost a couple of mine, but then i'm tough on those guys in the field. (nownow - no wisecracks about annsan having a screw loose, guys :) ) Har ann -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: PDML Mini-FAQ
Frequently! Don -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PDML Mini-FAQ Um... You guys actually belong to a club where it's necessary to *prove* that you have a brain?!? Jostein :-) - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: Re: PDML Mini-FAQ On 21/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Two days late this time, sorry, I had medical things on my mind. To which I can now say that all of you claiming I don't have a brain are wrong. I had a picture taken of it yesterday, so know there it is still there. You and me belong in the same club Graywolf. I had a CAT scan once. Paid £10 and got a copy of the images. I should photograph it and post it up... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What a Rack!
You trying to make me feel good about the perceptiveness of Americans? frank theriault wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:47:48 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Trivia time: It's the animal on the Canadian quarter, if you can find a quarter with an animal on it. William Robb It's amazing how many people (Canadians, that is) think that it's a moose on our quarter... -frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: FA77 aperture need help
Alan, give up, surrender, they have your name on a list... Alan Chan wrote: Hi those with this lens, could you check with your lens and see if mine was stopped down too much at f2.5 setting (1 click from maximum)? A few slides shot with this lens came back underexposed. I need to know if it's a lens problem. Thanks all. :-) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/aperture.jpg = Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: safe Flash Sync Voltages
ECS -English Cocker Spaniel, ACS American... Don Sanderson wrote: ECS or ACS? You lost me. :-( Don -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: safe Flash Sync Voltages ECS or ACS? SNIP -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What a Rack!
So that's where we got the idea... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: What a Rack! It's amazing how many people (Canadians, that is) think that it's a moose on our quarter... Do you have a count now on the number of quarter backs there are now? Thats the coin they are using as an art form, isn't it? William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
If he's anything like my Cocker unless he thinks you're playing, (in which case it becomes a Tug of War), he just lets you take anything out of his mouth, then looks hurt... frank theriault wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:48:35 -0600, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the critter that joined my household one week ago and has caused quite a commotion: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Whitley.htm 8yr old Cocker with his favorite 'Squeaky Toy', the burger. I have NEVER seen an animal as hard to photograph! He is jet black with no gloss and eyes that light up a brighter yellow under flash than any cat I've ever seen. This is with main and small fill flash, just a JPG snapshot but the only one so far that shows the dog and not just a black spot in space. :-( It's like taking a picture of a light-trap! That burger is a very dirty brown. ist D and ATX 80-200/2.8 at 200/8-ISO 200 Q+D burn on the eyes. Don (Any suggestions on pics of black things welcome!) Geez, I wish I could get detail in dark fur like that! vbg Cute dog, but his (her?) eyes look a bit intense. I don't think it would be a good idea to try to take that plastic burger from him. g Nice shot - it seems you've captured a bit of the dog's personality. cheers, frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
On 21/12/04, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: You guys actually belong to a club where it's necessary to *prove* that you have a brain?!? Actually I modified mine using parts from a porn star and a travel agent. Now I don't know weather I'm coming or going... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
He might be going deaf, it's a common enough occurrence in Cockers, and
he is getting to that
age, and it often makes them appear to be less intelligent.
That picture answered my question, he's an ACS, the English variety is
in general a bit calmer.
Don Sanderson wrote:
Thanks Frank, he ('It' really,...ouch!) has his calmer moments'
That's MY pillow by the way:
http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Whitley2.jpg
Nice dog if a little on the dumb side. ;-)
Don
-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:48:35 -0600, Don Sanderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the critter that joined my household one week ago
and has caused quite a commotion:
http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Whitley.htm
8yr old Cocker with his favorite 'Squeaky Toy', the burger.
I have NEVER seen an animal as hard to photograph!
He is jet black with no gloss and eyes that light up a
brighter yellow under flash than any cat I've ever seen.
This is with main and small fill flash, just a JPG
snapshot but the only one so far that shows the dog
and not just a black spot in space. :-(
It's like taking a picture of a light-trap!
That burger is a very dirty brown.
ist D and ATX 80-200/2.8 at 200/8-ISO 200
Q+D burn on the eyes.
Don (Any suggestions on pics of black things welcome!)
Geez, I wish I could get detail in dark fur like that! vbg
Cute dog, but his (her?) eyes look a bit intense. I don't think it
would be a good idea to try to take that plastic burger from him. g
Nice shot - it seems you've captured a bit of the dog's personality.
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What a Rack!
I think that would all depend on relative velocities... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault mused: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:47:48 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Trivia time: It's the animal on the Canadian quarter, if you can find a quarter with an animal on it. William Robb It's amazing how many people (Canadians, that is) think that it's a moose on our quarter... Better a moose on your quarter than a dragon on your six ... -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: safe Flash Sync Voltages
American. Pug nose, Bug eyes, Loves hamburgers! ;-) And he doesn't need groomed, he needs mowed, raked, scrubbed and polished! He was given very little care or attention and was pretty much doomed to the pound. I was pretty much going to give up on him because of his not fitting in at my house. Then.. He walked over, laid his head in my lap, looked up at me, wagged his tail and fell asleep. That was all I could take, he's part of the family now. Don (Sucker for mis-treated 'anythings', dogs, people.) -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: safe Flash Sync Voltages ECS -English Cocker Spaniel, ACS American... Don Sanderson wrote: ECS or ACS? You lost me. :-( Don -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: safe Flash Sync Voltages ECS or ACS? SNIP -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I modified mine using parts from a porn star and a travel agent. Now I don't know weather I'm coming or going... You forgot to mention the parts from the meteorologist. Jostein
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
Cotty mused: On 21/12/04, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: You guys actually belong to a club where it's necessary to *prove* that you have a brain?!? Actually I modified mine using parts from a porn star and a travel agent. Now I don't know weather I'm coming or going... If you wanted to know weather you should have included a meteorologist.
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
On 21/12/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Actually I modified mine using parts from a porn star and a travel agent. Now I don't know weather I'm coming or going... If you wanted to know weather you should have included a meteorologist. ROTFL Touche! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
On 21/12/04, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: You forgot to mention the parts from the meteorologist. :-))) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
Negative on the deaf, slightest sound outside and he's at the
door raising heck!
I'm starting to think dumb is unfair, just doesn't seem to
have ever had any fair and consistent discipline.
He's starting to understand me and my 'commands' a bit.
He knows I won't hurt him, but knows I'm serious when I say
'NO'.
If he'll just stop scaring the bejesuus out of the cat we'll
be OK. ;-)
Don
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
He might be going deaf, it's a common enough occurrence in Cockers, and
he is getting to that
age, and it often makes them appear to be less intelligent.
That picture answered my question, he's an ACS, the English variety is
in general a bit calmer.
Don Sanderson wrote:
Thanks Frank, he ('It' really,...ouch!) has his calmer moments'
That's MY pillow by the way:
http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Whitley2.jpg
Nice dog if a little on the dumb side. ;-)
Don
-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO:Whitley-Black with Burger
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:48:35 -0600, Don Sanderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the critter that joined my household one week ago
and has caused quite a commotion:
http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Whitley.htm
8yr old Cocker with his favorite 'Squeaky Toy', the burger.
I have NEVER seen an animal as hard to photograph!
He is jet black with no gloss and eyes that light up a
brighter yellow under flash than any cat I've ever seen.
This is with main and small fill flash, just a JPG
snapshot but the only one so far that shows the dog
and not just a black spot in space. :-(
It's like taking a picture of a light-trap!
That burger is a very dirty brown.
ist D and ATX 80-200/2.8 at 200/8-ISO 200
Q+D burn on the eyes.
Don (Any suggestions on pics of black things welcome!)
Geez, I wish I could get detail in dark fur like that! vbg
Cute dog, but his (her?) eyes look a bit intense. I don't think it
would be a good idea to try to take that plastic burger from him. g
Nice shot - it seems you've captured a bit of the dog's personality.
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on
during peacetime.
--P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
Wow! I never thought of asking is I could buy a copy for my album. I did think afterwards that if I had taken my old floppies in with me they would have been very effectively erased (MRI). In fact I think I now have a magnetic personality (grin). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: On 21/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Two days late this time, sorry, I had medical things on my mind. To which I can now say that all of you claiming I don't have a brain are wrong. I had a picture taken of it yesterday, so know there it is still there. You and me belong in the same club Graywolf. I had a CAT scan once. Paid £10 and got a copy of the images. I should photograph it and post it up... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
Oh, he didn't take them down to the shoe store? (This is one that will tell how old you are, for sure.) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: I grew up in a very poor town, and the doctor was so poor he couldn't afford a cat scan. In fact, he couldn't even afford an x-ray machine. He'd hold his patients up to the light ... Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] You and me belong in the same club Graywolf. I had a CAT scan once. Paid £10 and got a copy of the images. I should photograph it and post it up... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004
Re: PESO -- Front Door
It was late, and I was trying to get the subtle green of the door, I didn't notice that everything else was blueish... Cotty wrote: On 21/12/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html Strangely likeable. You enjoy a blue cast ? Even the ribbon is bluey. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
Clap! Clap! Clap! graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: On 21/12/04, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: You guys actually belong to a club where it's necessary to *prove* that you have a brain?!? Actually I modified mine using parts from a porn star and a travel agent. Now I don't know weather I'm coming or going... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004
Re: Christmas enablement.
Wheatfield, it would be interesting to see some side-by-side comparisons of noise -- *ist D vs. your new toy, same ISO (say, 200), same subject, same angle of view. Your wish is my command. I have a few days off coming up this weekend. I'll try to post something on either Saturday or Sunday. Um Any ideas of what a good test target would be? We are kinda snow bound at the moment (it's freaking awful outside today). Perhaps something monotoned, so as to show noise. Snow might do, if you can get the exposure right. Even a straight shot of gray sky might suffice. It doesn't have to be an interesting photo. Joe
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
We didn't have a shoe store. Shel [Original Message] From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/21/2004 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini-FAQ Oh, he didn't take them down to the shoe store? (This is one that will tell how old you are, for sure.)
Re: Pentax lens screw sizes, help please
Stateside they would probably be called countersunk philips head machine screws. That is without pulling one to look at it (it could be recessed instead of countersunk). Probably 2-2.5mm. OK, I just pulled one, it is a recessed binderhead phillips machine screw graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: Okay, one for the engineers on the list. Do you know what the screw size is for a typical Pentax K mount lens - the kind that hold the actual K mount bayonet flange onto the rear of the lens? I appreciate that lengths may vary according to lens, but the width and the thread type seem to be standard, at least with SMC K and A lenses, or at least the ones I have come across. How would you describe these screws - cross-head, countersunk screws or bolts? And as for size and thread type - is there a particular recognised nomenclature? Someone quoted 'BA' sizes at me, is this relevant? Any help very much appreciated. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004
Re: Christmas enablement.
P.S. More on testing. It would also be interesting to compare noise at the *ist D's slowest ISO with noise at the 750's slowest ISO. Joe
Re: PESO -- Front Door
I kicked the blue down a notch or two. Still needs some work but I think it's a bit better. Cotty wrote: On 21/12/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html Strangely likeable. You enjoy a blue cast ? Even the ribbon is bluey. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO -- Front Door
The day after I shot the picture. It's still in camera so to speak. Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: No snow? Maris Peter J. Alling wrote: I thought I'd do something seasonal, so here it is. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_Front_Door.html As usual comments are welcome but may be completely ignored. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What a Rack!
After the original post I looked it up. Reindeer is the name of the domesticated animal, carribou the name of the wild animal. Interestingly enough, no one has been able to domesticate current carribou. Either those cavemen were smarter than we are, or the animal was dumber back then (grin). The photo is of reindeer, BTW; carribou are amost always some shade of brown. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Illinois Bill wrote: Actually, Caribou and Reindeer are different in that they live in geographically different (and separate) portions of the Earth. Technically though, they are able to interbreed and produce fertile offspring (the requirements of a species), hence the same Latin (species) name. This came up in a discussion recently when scientists postulated (in an article in a local paper) that if current trends continue, that reindeer will no longer be found south of the Arctic Circle (which actually included caribou too) IL Bill On Dec 20, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Raimo K wrote: I also thought that they were different but the Latin name is the same. Reindeers are not so small - full grown males are quite big. Fairytales are not always correct. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: What a Rack! - Original Message - From: Raimo K Subject: Re: What a Rack! Rangifer tarandus - it´s the same as - reindeer. I had thought the reindeer was a smaller animal than the North American Caribou. Trivia time: It's the animal on the Canadian quarter, if you can find a quarter with an animal on it. William Robb -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2004
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ
Like I said, it was a very poor neighborhood. The doctor couldn't even afford to sterilize his instruments. In the morning he'd take 'em down to YMCA steam room. It was so poor that the women took in laundry and kept it. The art museum was a painted turtle. Our Baskin Robbins only had one flavor. And it was a tough neighborhood as well. The most common form of transportation was a stretcher. The guys used to carry chewed off shotguns. When you made out your weekly budget you always included a few dollars for mugging!Apartment rental ads read Only a short run to the subway. There wasn't even a bank. At Christmas the loan sharks gave out calendars. Shel [Original Message] From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, he didn't take them down to the shoe store? (This is one that will tell how old you are, for sure.) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: I grew up in a very poor town, and the doctor was so poor he couldn't afford a cat scan. In fact, he couldn't even afford an x-ray machine. He'd hold his patients up to the light ...
Re: Pentax lens screw sizes, help please
On 21/12/04, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Stateside they would probably be called countersunk philips head machine screws. That is without pulling one to look at it (it could be recessed instead of countersunk). Probably 2-2.5mm. OK, I just pulled one, it is a recessed binderhead phillips machine screw Thanks Gw Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
