Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread eckinator
Desktop Restore looks legit from what I can see and I tend to rule out a virus as well - it is just not viral behavior - nonetheless you can do an online virus scan of the setup program at http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus just to be sure. Also, have you tried uninstalling Desktop Restore?

Re: Peso - Parasailing

2009-10-05 Thread eckinator
Perspectivic compression really adds drama - well done =) Cheers Ecke 2009/10/4 gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com: As Marnie has stated, it was quite windy at Fort Point yesterday. Larry thought it was MFC.  I agree wholeheartedly with both.  Didn't seem to bother this guy.

Re: pdml meeting in SF: faces

2009-10-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:59:05PM -0700, Sasha Sobol wrote: Nice comments, Larry. Thanks. I think that it would be fun to match up the photos from these gatherings of the photographer and the picture being taken at the time. Until I upload the pictures from dinner, this is a mostly Sasha set:

RE: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Chris Mitchell
NorCal (Northern California) October 2009 Meet in SF (San Francisco)... http://doe.jalbum.net/PDML%20Meet/index.html I tried out jalbum to do it. I want to make it work on my site, but don't know how yet. So, for now, going with their site. (It says there are ten photos, there

GESO - Norcal PDML gathering

2009-10-05 Thread Larry Colen
I've gone through my pictures from yesterday and posted them in this collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157622392202929/ Since I haven't even accomplished step 1 from my .signature, step 2 is on the distant horizon, so there are nearly 80 frames in 13 sets. -- The

Re: GESO - Norcal PDML gathering

2009-10-05 Thread gldnbearz
Nice job saving some of the low light restaurant shots. I found out last night I'm not capable of handholding 1/13s shots (or slower). The results were rather, ahem, Thieraultian. - Pat On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've gone through my pictures from

Fleet Week 2009

2009-10-05 Thread gldnbearz
Fleet Week and the Blue Angels are returning to San Francisco this coming weekend. Can those who have photographed this event here in the past (John Celio? J McAllister?) share the locations you used? I'm usually down on the docks at Fort Mason, but it's usually shady quite chilly down there as

Re: Peso - Parasailing

2009-10-05 Thread gldnbearz
Thanks for everyone's comments. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:07 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Perspectivic compression really adds drama - well done =) Cheers Ecke 2009/10/4 gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com: As Marnie has stated, it was quite windy at Fort Point yesterday. Larry

Re: Peso - Cliche?

2009-10-05 Thread gldnbearz
I tried working on the horizon, unfortunately the bridge started to tilt. It is what it is. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:50 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I like the framing and the rendering, but the crooked horizon is a distraction for me. Paul On Oct 4, 2009, at 8:41 PM,

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:25:06AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: I had a K20D and a K10D. The K20D was my every day camera, and the K10D was a backup. When the K7 was introduced I bought one and sold the K10. Believe me, the K7D is a big step up from the K20. Exposure DON'T SAY THINGS

Re: Peso - Cliche?

2009-10-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 12:13:28AM -0700, gldnbearz wrote: I tried working on the horizon, unfortunately the bridge started to tilt. It is what it is. It was that nasty wind. It kept blowing the water over to one side of the frame. I *told* you it was windy. -- The first step is learning to

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Do you use the battery grip to shoot with your left hand? RESISTANCE is useless. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: New findings on the K-7 and Lightroom for Mac dilemma

2009-10-05 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Make a custom camera profile and you'll be fine. That's what I tried last night. Seemed to work until I had to find that my night shots suffer a similar problem but on the red side of things. So, whatever happens, it isn't consistent and a profile

Re: keywords in LightRoom

2009-10-05 Thread AlunFoto
Boris, It's inside the catalog. What you ought to do is to export the keywords. THen you get a structured text file which you can edit in a standard editor, and then import back into LR afterwards. There's one important thing you need to know, though, which I didn't know myself when I wrote the

RE: PESO - A Taste Of Summer.

2009-10-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
frank theriault wrote: You did well to make that harsh light very nice looking. Scrumptious looking apple! Nicely done. Thanks Frank. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: keywords in LightRoom

2009-10-05 Thread AlunFoto
Heh. Just looke through the thread in the archive, and apparently I'm just repeating myself. :-( Sorry about the wasted bandwidth. Jostein 2009/10/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Boris, It's inside the catalog. What you ought to do is to export the keywords. THen you get a structured text file

Re: New findings on the K-7 and Lightroom for Mac dilemma

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: The photo in PS looks OK, albeit a little on the magenta side as reported by many other K-7 users, while I'm getting heavily over-saturated blue tones in LR. I've also found some magenta cast on some RAW pictures taken with the K-7 and developed with PS ACR

Re: GESO - Rust and Waves

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 09:06:16PM +0200, Tim ?sleby wrote: The guy siting smoking is Kjell Ørjan. He was the one who was responsible for me being on the boat that sank. Despite this, he is my friend, so be

pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Larry Colen
I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? I'm currently processing in lightroom, but also have licenses for bibble, and could use dcraw again if the need arose. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Larry Colen wrote: I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? Larger files (22MB vs 16MB), hence more SD/hard disk memory required. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Tom C wrote: Not being argumentative, just thinking out loud and thinking that because of the short life cycle of digital products, maybe our parameters for measuring them should also be changing. Before the introduction of the *ist D, this was discussed at length and from memory, most of

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy regarding his behavior and intentions. There is no age of consent for

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
i do still percieve it that way, btw. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the

Re: New findings on the K-7 and Lightroom for Mac dilemma

2009-10-05 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: I happily keep safe away from LR all the time. I've never had any problem with LR before. Not with the DS and not with the K10D. My colours were practically always spot on. The trouble clearly began with the K-7. All files from my former cameras

Re: New findings on the K-7 and Lightroom for Mac dilemma

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: I've never had any problem with LR before. Not with the DS and not with the K10D. My colours were practically always spot on. The trouble clearly began with the K-7. All files from my former cameras are still displaying as before. I'll wait another while for the

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i do still percieve it that way, btw. Most people probably do. There is, however, a distorted mindset that equates nudity exclusively with sexual activity. Sadly, the owners of such mindsets have a more than equal say in what passes for

Re: PESO - Coming

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Walters
I like this more than Passing Through. I know others liked the 'ghostly leg' in Passing Through but I thought it a bit distracting. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:39

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread eckinator
RANT ON Yes and no - I think a) protecting children has become more of an issue because child sexual abuse even though it has always been there is now - fortunately a high profile issue in most countries - unfortunately happening more often (or hopefully people only talk about it more but I feel

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Marnie Looks like everybody enjoyed the day. It's also good to be able to apply faces to the names that appear on the list. To get JAlbum to work on your site you just need to upload the subdirectory named 'album' to your site. JAlbum creates the 'album' subdirectory when you select Make

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/5/2009 4:14:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, supera1...@fastmail.fm writes: Hi Marnie Looks like everybody enjoyed the day. It's also good to be able to apply faces to the names that appear on the list. To get JAlbum to work on your site you just need to upload the

Re: pdml meeting in SF: faces

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 9:01:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 07:18:31PM -0700, Sasha Sobol wrote: I hanged out with Larry so most of my photos are of him. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157622517810098 I have left an

K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread AlunFoto
gang, I played with the shadow compensation feature in the K-7 this week-end, to see how much it actually compressed the histogram. It looked good on the camera screen, and the amount of detail lifted out of the mirk was quite significant, using the Pentax/Silkypix software. With LightRoom there

Re: K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread Bong Manayon
Yup! Got similar results. Except if the Pentax/Silkypix was bad enough to begin with, the interface of the version that comes with the K-7 is really a pain. For a while, I thought - hey! it looks like Lightroom... Bong On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:26 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: gang,

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/5/2009 2:12:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com writes: There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy regarding his behavior and intentions.

Re: GESO - Norcal PDML gathering

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 11:56:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: I've gone through my pictures from yesterday and posted them in this collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157622392202929/ Since I haven't even accomplished step 1 from my

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/5/2009 2:12:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com writes: There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy

Re: PESO - Corridor to the Dark

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 8:18:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: A simple one to start... http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/point1.htm Simple yes, but it works well. Nice shot. cheers, frank = Thanks, frank. :-)

Re: PESO - Arch to the Light

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 8:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: But I got my foray into night shooting... http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/palace1.htm Beautiful composition and light! cheers, frank Hey, thanks, frank!

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 11:44:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chris.mitch...@which.net writes: Thanks for posting Marnie - oh, and it's also good to see another jalbum user on the list. If you work out how to integrate Chameleon with your site, let us know how it's done please. Chris

Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread Feroze
When my PC is doing stupid things I generally run crap cleaner, www.ccleaner.com... Try this for the system restore http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449 Joseph Tainter wrote: Sorry for the OT question, but the knowledge on this list is incredible. I hope someone can help me. I have a

Re: K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:26 AM, AlunFoto wrote: gang, I played with the shadow compensation feature in the K-7 this week-end, to see how much it actually compressed the histogram. It looked good on the camera screen, and the amount of detail lifted out of the mirk was quite significant, using the

Re: PESO - Passing Through

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 7:47:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: I like the fact that you just caught a thin piece of the dark figure. More provocative. Jack = Thanks, Jack. -- Marnie, both this and Coming are very impressive.

RE: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:44 +0100, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Thanks for posting Marnie - oh, and it's also good to see another jalbum user on the list. If you work out how to integrate Chameleon with your site, let us know how it's done please. I use a slightly hacked

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Malcolm, You held out a long time and will be blown away by the K-7. Anti-shake, more pixels, better rendering,,,you're gonna love it! Some adjustment of your photo processing software hardware may be necessary. I still have my original *ist DS. It has been superceded by better offerings from

Re: PESO - Coming

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 7:50:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Damn, you did good, Marnie!! Love this..also! Jack = Thanks, Jack. I really like this one, myself. I am getting my groove back! Heh. After not really shooting for almost a year (more

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/5/2009 5:03:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, supera1...@fastmail.fm writes: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1370864/album-Norah-Head/index.html (in this case I renamed the 'album' directory to 'album-Norah-Head' for convenience). Have I understood your problem? Cheers

Re: K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Jostein, after the mishap that I had with turning highlight compensation on I played some with shadow compensation but found now discernible benefit in it. Thus I switched it off and kind of forgotten about it. I use LR and shoot PEF. Boris AlunFoto wrote: gang, I played with the shadow

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:10 -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: === I personally like the Chameleon black and black version (similar to what you have). But it puts a download this photo thing at the bottom of each page. I've briefly looked at the forums but have not found the answer

Re: PESO: Mischief

2009-10-05 Thread Jack Davis
It's been pointed out that these shoes were in terrible condition. Something I hadn't noticed, but do agree with. None the less, even if thrown up there by the owner, the term mischief might still apply due to inconveniencing whatever city utility eventually winds up cutting them down. ;) Jack

Re: GESO - Rust and Waves

2009-10-05 Thread Christian
Tim Øsleby wrote: I've made a new blog entry. http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/10/brustne-blger-seljetur-med-fotoklubben.html This was the second day of the outing with the photo club. I think some of you PDMLers will appreciate some of these. If you don't, please let me know why. Please

Re: K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/5 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I think it only works on jpegs, and it's just an in-camera processing gimick. I'm pretty sure I saw differences in the histograms on the chimping screen. But it could still be a processing gimmick, if the details of the processing are just

Re: GESO - Rust and Waves

2009-10-05 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Your friend is a sea Kjell? Har. You part of a digestive system? :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread Adam Maas
Adding a monitor does not trigger the Authorization phone-home. CPU, motherboard or boot drive changes are the only triggers. -Adam On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:06 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I think that was just coincidence.  What I think triggered it was adding the new

PESO - We're Here!

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
Speaking of ghosts (re to frank, re Fort Point, SF)... This is a grab shot. As I was down the corridor in an old room, this kid walked in and pointed. Thinking I got to get that I raised the camera, but way too slowly. However, although not as good as the first shot that I lost, a kid

Re: Peso: Cot (Hat) Man

2009-10-05 Thread Gonz
Oops, seems that link is not the best one, here is a more direct one: http://picasaweb.google.com/rgonzomatic/GFM?feat=directlink On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote: Putting up some GFM pics, here is the first... http://picasaweb.google.com/rgonzomatic/GFM#

Re: New findings on the K-7 and Lightroom for Mac dilemma

2009-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Hello all, We've just returned from a one-week holiday in Northern France and my photos taken with the K-7 again look awful when I view them with Lightroom 2.5 on the Mac. Just opened one of them in Photoshop (Adobe Camera Raw 4) and bingo: While photoshop displays

RE: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob Sullivan wrote: You held out a long time and will be blown away by the K-7. Anti-shake, more pixels, better rendering,,,you're gonna love it! Some adjustment of your photo processing software hardware may be necessary. I still have my original *ist DS. It has been superceded by better

Re: keywords in LightRoom

2009-10-05 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:26:40AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: [snip] The important thing is this: when you re-import the keywords to LR, the program is bright enough to understand it if you add more leaves to a branch, or if you add another branch to the tree. But it does NOT understand it if

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:53:52AM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Larry Colen wrote: I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? Larger files (22MB vs 16MB), hence more SD/hard disk memory required. That depends -- didn't Bill Robb report that

PESO - Fort Point Perspective

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
Something more traditional. Probably going to do one or two more Fort Point PESOs (because I've haven't done that many this year) before I go to a GESO. I suppose I could lop a little off the top. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/point2.htm Comments, welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

2009-10-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Walt, I've sent you a message off-list, but it seems to have not reached you. Could you please check your mail box or otherwise send me an empty message off-list so that I could reply knowing that it would most likely reach you? Thanks. Boris Walter Hamler wrote:

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Graydon wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:53:52AM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Larry Colen wrote: I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? Larger files (22MB vs 16MB), hence more SD/hard disk memory required. That depends -- didn't Bill

RE: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Desjardins, Steve
I have an *istD sitting right behind me in my office at work. It's the official dept. camera. We will continue to use it until it breaks. We just don't' need more MP or AF speed. Eventually, I think that more cameras will be like that. $2000 or less, 32 MP, acceptable AF speed. Shoot RAW,

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 04:12:09PM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Graydon wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:53:52AM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Larry Colen wrote: I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? Larger files (22MB vs 16MB),

RE: What would Jung say?

2009-10-05 Thread Desjardins, Steve
That's what most men do at bars anyway. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What would Jung say? David J Brooks wrote: On Sun, Oct 4,

Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread John Sessoms
Joseph Tainter wrote: Sorry for the OT question, but the knowledge on this list is incredible. I hope someone can help me. I have a Dell laptop running XP. On Wednesday I installed a new, 19, 1280x1024 external Viewsonic monitor. At the same time I installed a little utility called Desktop

Re: PESO: fruit shop

2009-10-05 Thread Subash
On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:53:48 -0400 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like this one better than I like the Levis shot. The reflections in the window are distracting from an already cluttered, almost uncomposed image. dave, john, marnie and frank, thanks for looking and the comments

Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator Desktop Restore looks legit from what I can see and I tend to rule out a virus as well - it is just not viral behavior - nonetheless you can do an online virus scan of the setup program at http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus just to be sure. Also, have you tried uninstalling

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Graydon wrote: Point. Though, really, DNG on the K20D is 329 DNG files to the 8 GB SD card. 8 GB cards are well under 30 CAD per these days. (Yeah, I buy no-name from small computer shops on College St., but never mind; the point is that an 8 GB card is not expensive.) I've managed to fill

Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread eckinator
Yes I think so too but as usual uninstalling won't get the mess out of the system... =( 2009/10/5 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: eckinator Desktop Restore looks legit from what I can see and I tend to rule out a virus as well - it is just not viral behavior - nonetheless you can

Re: What would Jung say?

2009-10-05 Thread eckinator
Facial recognition? Will that also work for porno shoots? ]=) 2009/10/5 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: David J Brooks wrote: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A feature I hear about a lot in point and shoots is facial recognition. They can

Re: PESO - Fort Point Perspective

2009-10-05 Thread Jack Davis
Like it, Marnie and agree, I'd lop some from the top before someone else suggests it. =) Jack --- On Mon, 10/5/09, eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com wrote: From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com Subject: PESO - Fort Point Perspective To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, October 5, 2009,

Re: GESO - Rust and Waves

2009-10-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/10/5 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 09:06:16PM +0200, Tim ?sleby wrote: The guy siting smoking is Kjell Ørjan. He was the one who was responsible for me being on the boat

Re: GESO - Rust and Waves

2009-10-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/10/5 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: 2009/10/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 09:06:16PM +0200, Tim ?sleby wrote: The guy siting smoking is Kjell Ørjan. He was the one who was responsible for me being on the boat that sank. Despite this, he is my friend, so be

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: Luka Knezevic-Strika i do still percieve it that way, btw. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and

Re: PESO: Mischief

2009-10-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jack Davis It's been pointed out that these shoes were in terrible condition. Something I hadn't noticed, but do agree with. None the less, even if thrown up there by the owner, the term mischief might still apply due to inconveniencing whatever city utility eventually winds up cutting

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-05 Thread Margus Männik
The author most obviously dosn't have a smallest idea about communist block circa 1981. Windows is VERY colorful and reliable compared to this... I would even say happier. BR, Margus (from ex-soviet country) Joseph McAllister wrote: On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:24 , Bob W wrote: Windows is like

Re: GESO - Rust and Waves

2009-10-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/10/5 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: I've made a new blog entry. http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/10/brustne-blger-seljetur-med-fotoklubben.html This was the second day of the outing with the photo club.

RE: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Steve Desjardins wrote: I have an *istD sitting right behind me in my office at work. It's the official dept. camera. We will continue to use it until it breaks. We just don't' need more MP or AF speed. Eventually, I think that more cameras will be like that. $2000 or less, 32 MP,

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you capture using RAW-DNG format in-camera, and they're not compressed, you can re-save them as DNG with DNG Converter or Lightroom or Camera Raw which will apply lossless compression to reduce their size at which point they are the same size as the PEF files. The only real reason to capture

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 04:38:08PM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Graydon wrote: [snip] I've managed to fill two 8 GB cards precisely once; my brain gives out around 600 exposures, as a general rule. To get to a difference between DNG and PEF storage that adds up to a single 8 GB SD card, you

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? Larger files (22MB vs 16MB), hence more SD/hard disk memory required. Well, more SD memory, anyway - the uncompressed DNG files can always be compressed when

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Tom C
Granted, the older DSLR's likely still work and mine do also. And for those applications where more MP are not necessary they are certainly still useful. My son just had a short part-time opportunity doing real estate inspections, and it made sense to use the lowest resolution setting on the

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Godfrey, Mark and Graydon wrote some very good comments on archiving automation and efficiency. My comment below. The boy asked: Dad, dad, what's the difference between theory and practice? The father replied: Well... you know... mom welcomes men quite often, and your dear sister has also

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 05:26:39PM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Godfrey, Mark and Graydon wrote some very good comments on archiving automation and efficiency. My comment below. The boy asked: Dad, dad, what's the difference between theory and practice? The father replied: Well... you

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-05 Thread Tom C
I meant to writelower grained/higher resolution film. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Granted, the older DSLR's likely still work and mine do also.  And for those applications where more MP are not necessary they are certainly still useful.  My son just had a

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza wrote: Godfrey, Mark and Graydon wrote some very good comments on archiving automation and efficiency. My comment below. The boy asked: Dad, dad, what's the difference between theory and practice? The father replied: Well... you know... mom welcomes men quite often, and your

Re: PESO: Mischief

2009-10-05 Thread Jack Davis
Well, laces used to be relatively rotting prone cotton. These days, they're likely made of NASA brand, high tech, indestructible space fibers..or.(?) Probably need a cutting torch on either the laces or power line. =) Jack --- On Mon, 10/5/09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From:

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Larry Colen wrote: I've been using pef raw files in my K20. Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng? I'm currently processing in lightroom, but also have licenses for bibble, and could use dcraw again if the need arose. K20D DNG files are twice the size on average as it's PEF

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Graydon wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 05:26:39PM +0200, Dario Bonazza scripsit: Godfrey, Mark and Graydon wrote some very good comments on archiving automation and efficiency. My comment below. The boy asked: Dad, dad, what's the difference between theory and practice? The father replied:

Re: PESO - Fort Point Perspective

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/5/2009 7:52:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Like it, Marnie and agree, I'd lop some from the top before someone else suggests it. =) Jack == Thanks, Jack. Done. I replaced it with the other picture I had, too, because it shows a

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 05:26:39PM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: Godfrey, Mark and Graydon wrote some very good comments on archiving automation and efficiency. My comment below. The boy asked: Dad, dad, what's the difference between theory and practice? Well, in theory there is no

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza wrote: So I simply won't recommend using a larger file format without a good reason, just because we've got the power to manage that. Compressed DNG *isn't* a larger file format than PEF. In theory or practice. Ther *are* good reasons for using DNG for archiving, like

Re: K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Since Light room won't even install on my machine, but the Pentax software does, so that's what I;m using for my K20D files. Yes the interface is clunky compared to what I was using before, but it gets the job done. I haven't needed a really smooth workflow for a large number of images since

Re: K-7, shadow compensation and raw file conversion

2009-10-05 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 03:22:39PM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: 2009/10/5 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I think it only works on jpegs, and it's just an in-camera processing gimick. I'm pretty sure I saw differences in the histograms on the chimping screen. Don't forget those

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2009 11:44:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chris.mitch...@which.net writes: Thanks for posting Marnie - oh, and it's also good to see another jalbum user on the list. If you work out how to integrate Chameleon with your site, let us know how

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Mark Roberts wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: So I simply won't recommend using a larger file format without a good reason, just because we've got the power to manage that. Compressed DNG *isn't* a larger file format than PEF. In theory or practice. Ther *are* good reasons for using DNG for

Re: OT: Computer Question

2009-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I stopped writing software that cared about that a while ago, and being an Microsoft automatic update refusenik I didn't know that, but it's nice to know. Adam Maas wrote: Adding a monitor does not trigger the Authorization phone-home. CPU, motherboard or boot drive changes are the only

Re: pef vs dng

2009-10-05 Thread Matthew Montgomery
At least with my K10D, I found that the lens metadata wasn't retained when shooting DNG in-camera. This is a big deal for me as I like to view what images I have taken with what lens. What I do is shoot PEF and import into Lightroom as compressed DNGs. I am quite happy with this

Re: GESO - PDMLers Shooting Each Other

2009-10-05 Thread gldnbearz
Marnie- If you want to remove the download this photo thing that's at the bottom of each page, you can disable it in one of the option settings. I don't have jalbum here at work. Will fire it up later tonight to get you more info. - Pat On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:10 AM, eactiv...@aol.com

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