smc FA 35-80mm f3.5-5.6 for the sake of my LBA...

2010-05-04 Thread Roman Melihhov
I'd been buying several older FA lenses and Samsung's D-series lenses
recently. Found good deal for FA 35-80mm f/3.5-5.6 tele-zoom. What can
you say about it? I can't find many larger sample images to see what
it's about in pictures...

Your comments highly appreciated,




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Re: PESO: Playing in the fountain

2010-05-04 Thread David Mann
On May 4, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 Taken (thankfully) with the K10D and the Da16-50.  I kinda like it.
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0638_large.html

I more than kinda like it.  That's an awesome photo and it should be hanging 
on your wall.

I'd almost be tempted to try it in BW.

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Re: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

2010-05-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Brian, all of them were interesting to me. You appear to have proper 
control of light and of composition. Or at least this is what I conclude 
looking at this gallery that you presented.


As for Desperately Seeking Inspiration, usually what works for me is 
one or few of these:


1. Visit to the art museum.
2. Reading photography book, sometimes without pictures.
3. Doing some post processing/organization of my photos.
4. Sitting with Galia looking through her pictures
5. And even putting the whole photography thing aside for a short period 
of time...


HTH

Boris


On 5/3/2010 4:26 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I've been into a photographic black hole recently.  Either I can't 'see'
potential subjects or, if I do, my composition is crap.

So, I've been going back through the archives to see if there's anything
there that I might have overlooked.  Here's what I found.  Are any of
these even remotely interesting?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-desperate/index.html


Comments welcome (but a simple 'yes' or 'no' will also suffice.)



Cheers

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Bob W
 I tried a different approach on my last trip: I used the 
 Novoflex Basic Ball tripod, and one (carbon fibre) telescope 
 rod accessory.
 http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/camera-support-systems/mac
 ro-tripods/basicball/
 I used a Leica ball head mounted on the Basic Ball.
 http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/accessories/tr
 ipod_accessories/2200.html
 
 My objective was light weight, and compactness. I think this 
 combination worked well, and held my K-7 with DA*200/2.8 and 
 1.4x(L) rock steady. The telescoping rod acted both as a 
 monopod, and as a third leg on the tripod.

Just so I'm sure I understand this, presumably the Leica ball head (I
already have one of these) would fit on top of the telescope rod to provide
a reasonable monopod with the adjustability coming from the ball head? Is
the basic ball necessary in a set up like that?

Bob


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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Bob W
He's an important part of a very exclusive pdml sub-committee:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well-hung-4740.jpg

B

 Hey, when I shook his hand, it enveloped my hand all the way 
 up to the wrist watch. And he scarfed a double expresso in 
 one gulp. He's BIG.
 
 Jeffery
 
 On May 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
  On 5/3/2010 3:44 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
  Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list!  Godfrey, I 
 thought you had switched to anothermount. Didn't you 
 become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this list.
  
  Godfrey could lose a little weight, but I don't think he 
 quite qualifies as 4/3 of a person.


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RE: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread Bob W
You get yourself back there, Dan, and keep eating breakfasts until you get
it right!

 
 I will try your suggestions, and see if I can improve the image.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
  On 5/3/2010 12:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
  http://dinerdan.posterous.com/
 
  Comments, criticisms and suggestions are encouraged.
 
  I appreciate what you're trying to do, but this isn't one of your 
  strongest shots.


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Re: OT: My first race

2010-05-04 Thread David Mann
On May 4, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Subash wrote:

 congratulations Dave. that's an amazing time. i ran my first HM too a
 couple of months back in february. more like jogged since i took about
 2:40. i was somewhere in the bottom half, but still very happy to
 finish without walking :) working on it... :)

It's great being able to do the distance, isn't it?  My training plan was to 
make sure I could do the distance before entering.   The longest I'd run before 
then was about 15km.  It hurt like hell but I made it through sheer stubborn 
determination.  Since then I've improved my time by about 10 minutes in three 
months.

I'm eating like a horse this week.  I mentally hit the wall at about 3pm at 
work today and I had to be there until 6.  I'm planning an early night tonight. 
 At least the legs are starting to feel good again.

Thanks to everyone for all the comments.  I'll let you know how I get on this 
weekend.  Why did I enter two of these things?

Cheers,
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Re: Blurb did ok (better in my case)

2010-05-04 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I filled the form like 10 hours ago and immediately received an automated 
response saying that I will have further notices within 1 day and went to 
sleep. This morning I have just found the second one, apologizing and inviting 
me to keep or recycle the defective book (which is not a bad deal since it only 
have 4-5 pictures with the annoying stripes). Ah, they are printing a second 
book for me, of course.

Regards,
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- Mensaje original 
 De: Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net
 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Enviado: mar,4 mayo, 2010 00:02
 Asunto: Blurb did ok
 
 My PDML Annual arrived with three pages that had printing problems.  I sent 
 them a message via their web-form on Saturday morning, the 24th. Despite 
 their 
 claims that they respond within three hours (or a little longer on 
 Saturdays), I 
 didn't get a response on Saturday or Monday.

I sent filled out the web 
 form again on Tuesday.  They responded within the half-hour with a return 
 shipping label email and a separate message with instructions and the word 
 than 
 another book had been ordered for me.

The book arrived today and it's 
 fine.

So, while they didn't respond to my initial complaint for some 
 reason, they certainly handled the problem well once dialog was 
 established.

My two cents.
Cory

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RE: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

2010-05-04 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 Or you could try this--something I did years ago when I was 
 in a funk--I flew down to Cancun, Mexico, drank for a week 
 straight, parasailed off the coast, flirted with sailors, ate 
 barracuda ceviche on the beach, drank some more, and 
 embarrassed myself with my bad (really nonexistent) Spanish. 
 I ought to dig those negatives out.  Anyway, try that--might 
 help :-). 
 Cheers, Christine
 

That was you? Hell, I think we already know each other. How are the rope
burns?

B


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RE: Egypt final uploads

2010-05-04 Thread John Coyle
Some really good stuff there Dave, brought back some great memories.  I
agree that, if possible, it 's worth making sacrifices (human if needed!) to
go to Egypt.  I didn't use a tripod, but did you stand in my footprints for
your WA shot of the Sphinx?


John in Brisbane



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Subject: Egypt final uploads

I trailed off here for a couple days so I didn't flood the group with
my updates, but I've got all my Egypt pictures uploaded.  Everyone
should go at least once in their life.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/

And per Miserere's challenge, here are my top 10 from all of my
pictures from the trip:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623986937202/

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Re: pdml annuals have arrived in chicago

2010-05-04 Thread mike wilson

 John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: 
 On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 06:30:11PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
 
  - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: pdml 
  annuals have arrived in chicago
 
 
 
  3 cheers for Mark, Christine and the USPS!
  FedEx, actually. (If it had been USPS they'd be in Alaska by now.
  Scratch that -- they'd be on their way to Alaska now.)
 
  If it had been UPS, they would be in Alaska by now.
 
 No - if it had been UPS they'd be at the trans-shipment point
 waiting to be put on the truck going to Alaska.  UPS would be
 able to tell you this, but there'd be no way for them to change
 the desination point from Alaska to Chicago; that would only be
 possible once the box arrived at the Alaska distribution point.
 
 Then they'd ship it on to Chicago so that it arrived at the UPS
 depot on a Friday night. But you wouldn't be able to pick it up
 from there until delivery had been tried (and failed) on Monday.
 So if you needed it on Saturday you would be out of luck.
 
 (Me, bitter?  What gives you that idea?)

You are forgetting the two sets of international-border-crossing fees and costs 
you would have to pay before you were allowed to take delivery.

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RE: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

2010-05-04 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 
 [...]
  
  Or you could try this--something I did years ago when I was 
  in a funk--I flew down to Cancun, Mexico, drank for a week 
  straight, parasailed off the coast, flirted with sailors, ate 
  barracuda ceviche on the beach, drank some more, and 
  embarrassed myself with my bad (really nonexistent) Spanish. 
  I ought to dig those negatives out.  Anyway, try that--might 
  help :-). 
  Cheers, Christine
  
 
 That was you? Hell, I think we already know each other. How are the rope
 burns?

Bob,

She _has_negatives_  I would keep schtum, if I were you.

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Re: I've been Blurbed....

2010-05-04 Thread mike wilson

 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: 
 David J Brooks wrote:
   which is a lot better than being slimmed, i know.
  
  Had a quick look at the book, no obvious printing problems that i can see.
  
  There was some incoherent ramblings from some Brewer guy
 
 
 and this was a surprise?

He was expecting incontinent.

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Re: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

2010-05-04 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Christine

On Tue, 04 May 2010 00:54 -0500, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I don't know, Brian--those look mighty fine to me.  I like Blue Streak a 
 lot, and I like the bw light house too.  The light and shadow work in the 
 geso looks very nice as well.  I find them all interesting. To get you
 out 
 of your black hole, maybe try subject material or a genre you don't
 normally 
 shoot.


Yes - I think macro is in my future.


 
 Or you could try this--something I did years ago when I was in a funk--I 
 flew down to Cancun, Mexico, drank for a week straight, parasailed off
 the 
 coast, flirted with sailors, ate barracuda ceviche on the beach, drank
 some 
 more, and embarrassed myself with my bad (really nonexistent) Spanish. I 
 ought to dig those negatives out.  Anyway, try that--might help :-). 



It's been a while since I flirted with sailors.  So you think that would
help?


Cheers

Brian

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 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:26 AM
 Subject: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration
 
 
  G'day all
 
  I've been into a photographic black hole recently.  Either I can't 'see'
  potential subjects or, if I do, my composition is crap.
 
  So, I've been going back through the archives to see if there's anything
  there that I might have overlooked.  Here's what I found.  Are any of
  these even remotely interesting?
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-desperate/index.html
 
 
  Comments welcome (but a simple 'yes' or 'no' will also suffice.)
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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Re: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

2010-05-04 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Boris

On Tue, 04 May 2010 10:19 +0300, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Brian, all of them were interesting to me. You appear to have proper 
 control of light and of composition. Or at least this is what I conclude 
 looking at this gallery that you presented.
 
 As for Desperately Seeking Inspiration, usually what works for me is 
 one or few of these:
 
 1. Visit to the art museum.
 2. Reading photography book, sometimes without pictures.
 3. Doing some post processing/organization of my photos.
 4. Sitting with Galia looking through her pictures
 5. And even putting the whole photography thing aside for a short period 
 of time...


Thanks for the words of encouragement.  I've been doing the post
processing (that's what was in the GESO) and I've been to a couple of
art museums recently.  Sitting with Galia might be difficult given the
distance involved

Guess I'll drag out some of those photo books I haven't looked at in a
while.


Cheers

Brian

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 On 5/3/2010 4:26 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
  G'day all
 
  I've been into a photographic black hole recently.  Either I can't 'see'
  potential subjects or, if I do, my composition is crap.
 
  So, I've been going back through the archives to see if there's anything
  there that I might have overlooked.  Here's what I found.  Are any of
  these even remotely interesting?
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-desperate/index.html
 
 
  Comments welcome (but a simple 'yes' or 'no' will also suffice.)
 
 

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Re: I've been Blurbed....

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/4 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

  Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:
   which is a lot better than being slimmed, i know.
  Had a quick look at the book, no obvious printing problems that i can see.
  There was some incoherent ramblings from some Brewer guy
 and this was a surprise?
 He was expecting incontinent.

Incongruent. :-)

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Re: smc FA 35-80mm f3.5-5.6 for the sake of my LBA...

2010-05-04 Thread Cory Waters
I had one for a while.  Build quality was questionable.  It felt pretty 
plastic, if you know what I mean.  The images were OK for me though the 
lens didn't get good reviews from whatever pixel peepers used to be in 
the film days.  The zoom range wasn't enough on either end and it's too 
slow.  It saved my istD from certain death when Daughter 1.0 pulled the 
pair from the high kitchen counter one day. Broke the lens in half but 
the camera was fine.  I replaced it with a 28-105.

CW

On 5/4/2010 2:56 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote:

I'd been buying several older FA lenses and Samsung's D-series lenses
recently. Found good deal for FA 35-80mm f/3.5-5.6 tele-zoom. What can
you say about it? I can't find many larger sample images to see what
it's about in pictures...

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/3 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 Can I ask a silly question? I will anyway, why exactly does it need to
 fit in your carry on? Is that all you intend to take? Why I ask is
 that I always pack my tripod (carbon Manfrotto) in at the bottom of my
 check-in luggage and have never had a problem.

For just a couple of days it's worth the effort to fit everything into
carryon, imo. Especially for multi-flight itineraries.
I'll be bringing carryon only if I can help it.

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/4 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com:
 I've been on here since 2004ish, Jeffery. It's just ridiculous enough
 that I'm loathe to unsubscribe...

A. Love you too, Godfrey! :-)

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Re: smc FA 35-80mm f3.5-5.6 for the sake of my LBA...

2010-05-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 the lens didn't get good reviews from whatever pixel peepers used to be in 
 the film
 days.

Grain Magnifiers?

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 04/05/2010, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

 For just a couple of days it's worth the effort to fit everything into
 carryon, imo. Especially for multi-flight itineraries.
 I'll be bringing carryon only if I can help it.

You have to excuse Aussies, we don't go anywhere o/s for a couple of
days, it's an event. I wouldn't exit Oz for under 3 weeks, it's just
not worth the travel time of expense ;-(

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Re: PESO - More Miles

2010-05-04 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Frank. And thanks to all who commented or had a look.

Paul


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 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:50 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10969068
 
 Wonderful portrait!
 
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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/5/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

He's an important part of a very exclusive pdml sub-committee:
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GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-04 Thread Chris Mitchell
From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

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Re: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

2010-05-04 Thread Jack Davis
Brian,
Definitely prefer Moore Point in color. Dunes are, also, more complimentary, 
but Light House still too centrally located.
Decay is sort of a push. Color version may be slightly more interesting.
I certainly get those issues that present compositional problems.
Thanks for the second look!

Jack

--- On Mon, 5/3/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: Re: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:05 PM
 G'day all
 
 Thanks for the comments.  A few responses to those I
 haven't responded
 to yet
 
 On Mon, 03 May 2010 06:53 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I seriously think all have varying degrees of
 something. I've picked a
  few for comment: Goods Shed; Clean and beautifully
 composed. Decay; I
  might like it even better in BW. Moore Point
 Lighthouse; Would like to
  see it, also, in color and less centered. Holding On;
 An especially well
  chosen scene, but sort of suffocated and too near
 center. Haunted; Large
  central fence post is aligned with the house and gets
 in my face..so to
  speak.
  Nice set!
  
 
 
 Thanks, Jack.
 
 Here's Moore Point in colour - a different image but
 similar.  Yes, I'd
 like it a bit less centered but there was a whole heap of
 crap just
 above the sand dune - a road, old houses, overhead wires,
 etc., and it
 was bit of a struggle to hide them effectively.  Maybe
 a different crop
 is needed.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/eastwest/slides/_IGP3192j.html
 
 Haunted is an old house about 1/2 an hour's drive away -
 I keep
 meaning to go back and take a few more shots.  I'm in
 two minds about
 that fence post - it adds some foreground interest but its
 deep shadow
 is the thing I dislike most. 
 
 As for Decay in BW, your wish etc.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP2380bw.jpg
 
 +
 
 On Mon, 03 May 2010 08:59 -0500, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  How do I get in this photographic black hole?
  I'd be very happy to have produced almost any of those
 images!
  
  Darren Addy
 
 
 
 Thanks Darren - it was fun dragging these out of the
 archives but as
 I've said before, these were 'pre black hole.
 
 :-)
 
 +
 
 
 On Mon, 03 May 2010 16:04 +0200, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  They are a fine collection.
  Btw, I stumbled over your SOFOBOMO from last year.
 Impressing product.
  You've nearly nudged me into doing it this year! :-)
  
 
 
 I'll have to keep nudging!.  It was a lot of fun last
 year although I
 tried to do it in too short a period.  If I can think
 of an appropriate
 topic this year I'll try to use the full 4 weeks and
 include a bit more
 scintillating text.
 
 Maybe SoFoBoMo is what I need to escape my event horizon.
 
 +
 
 On Mon, 03 May 2010 15:25 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com
 wrote:
  
  We should all have holes as black as yours. 
  
  Some very nice stuff there. Someone should ship those
 decrepit railway
  coaches over to New Jersey and turn them into decrepit
 diners for Dan to
  photograph.
  
 
 
 I think those ones are already being used as diners,
 judging by the
 empty Maccas packets and beer bottles that were lying
 around
 
 Thanks for looking, Bob!
 
 +
 
 
 On Mon, 03 May 2010 08:44 -0700, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 wrote:
  
  I'm late for work, so I'll just say that several of
 them are quite good.
  
  The problem is that there are several separate
 critical tasks in the  
  process:
  photographer, editor, and processor.
  
  Sometimes you just aren't inspired, or on track for
 one of them.
 
 
 
 I think my problem is with the first of those critical
 tasks
 
 +
 
 
 On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:34 -0400, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  There is a lot of good stuff there.  I
 particularly like blue streak,
  the boat reflections and the trains.
  
 
 
 Thanks Dan.  I like 'Blue Streak', too although it's a
 bit noisy in the
 large version.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
 
 
 
  
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 wrote:
  
   From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
   Subject: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:26 AM
   G'day all
   
   I've been into a photographic black hole
 recently. 
   Either I can't 'see'
   potential subjects or, if I do, my composition is
 crap.
   
   So, I've been going back through the archives to
 see if
   there's anything
   there that I might have overlooked.  Here's what
 I
   found.  Are any of
   these even remotely 

Re: PESO: Playing in the fountain

2010-05-04 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 07:14:40PM +1200, David Mann wrote:
 On May 4, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
 
  Taken (thankfully) with the K10D and the Da16-50.  I kinda like it.
  
  http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0638_large.html
 
 I more than kinda like it.  That's an awesome photo and it should be 
 hanging on your wall.
 
 I'd almost be tempted to try it in BW.
 
 Dave

What Dave said.  I think it's a great, dynamic shot.  Well done.

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread mike wilson

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: 
 On 4/5/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 He's an important part of a very exclusive pdml sub-committee:
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well-hung-4740.jpg
 
 How did I know that would make another outing.

I think you get the lifetime award for bad puns with that one.

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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread Christian Skofteland
And Americans wonder why there is a problem with obesity...  Seriously, some of 
those 1, 2 and 3 pound burgers are meant for just one person but could easily 
feed 4 or more.  I really don't get the fascination with oversized meals.

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On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 05:00:08PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Thanks for your comment, Bob.
 
 That's a NEW JERSEY breakfast.  Eggs, Taylor Ham (pork roll -- a
 popular local product), hash brown potatoes, toast, butter and jam, a
 mini muffin, a slice of melon, a slice of orange, fresh squeezed juice
 and coffee.
 
 Lest you think that this is some wimpy diner, here are the burger specialties:
 
 Achilles  $7.95
 1 lb. meat - total 1.5 lb.
 
 Achilles with Cheese  $8.95
 1 lb. meat - total 1.5 lb.
 
 Achilles Deluxe   $10.95
 1 lb. meat - total 1.5 lb.
 
 Hercules  $12.95
 2 lb. meat - total 3 lb.
 
 Hercules with Cheese  $13.95
 2 lb. meat - total 3 lb.
 
 Hercules Deluxe   $16.95
 2 lb. meat - total 3 lb.
 
 Atlas $18.95
 3 lb. meat - total 4.5 lb.
 
 Atlas with Cheese $21.95
 3 lb. meat - total 4.5 lb.
 
 Atlas Deluxe  $26.95
 3 lb. meat - total 4.5 lb.
 
 Zeus  $39.95
 7 lb. meat - total 12.5 lb.
 
 Zeus with Cheese  $44.95
 7 lb. meat - total 12.5 lb.
 
 Zeus Deluxe   $52.95
 7 lb. meat - total 12.5 lb.
 
 Mt. Olympus   $129.95
 25 lb. meat - total 50 lb.
 
 Mt. Olympus with Cheese   $139.95
 25 lb. meat - total 50 lb.
 
 Mt. Olympus Deluxe$159.95
 25 lb. meat - total 50 lb.
 
 8th Wonder$259.95
 50 lb. meat - total 105 lb.
 
 8th Wonder with Cheese$279.95
 50 lb. meat - total 105 lb.
 
 8th Wonder Deluxe $320.95
 50 lb. meat - total 105 lb.
 
 Would you like an 8th Wonder with Cheese to go?
 


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/4 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:

 You have to excuse Aussies, we don't go anywhere o/s for a couple of
 days, it's an event. I wouldn't exit Oz for under 3 weeks, it's just
 not worth the travel time of expense ;-(

See your point. One could just as well regard Europe to be the
exception, with so many small countries...

Btw, it goes without saying that the FA* 600/4 will stay at home this time. :-)

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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
So you're there already, lucky you! :-)
Thanks for sharing!
Nice preview. Hope we get that kind of weather for the week-end too. I
know the forecast looks bleak, but fingers crossed... :-)

Jostein

2010/5/4 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:
 From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

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Re: PESO: Playing in the fountain

2010-05-04 Thread Bruce Walker

Charles Robinson wrote:
I've been in Mojiang, China for the past few days.  In the center of the town is Sun Square, which has a cool big sculpture to represent the sun (as the Tropic of Cancer runs right through the city).  The fountains were finally running on my last afternoon there so I wandered in to photograph the Sun with the water around it.  


The sculpture photos ended up so-so, but some of the people cooling off in the 
water really were entertained by this pale white guy walking so close to the 
water and decided to get my attention.

Taken (thankfully) with the K10D and the Da16-50.  I kinda like it.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0638_large.html

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location.


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-04 Thread CheekyGeek
 I think you'll find Mac zealots are a lot better looking than PC zealots,
 but they don't do as much work. I have a copy of iLoathe but it's nowhere
 near as good as Microsoft Hatred.

There's one for next year's book.
: )

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Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-04 Thread Jack Davis
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35222396

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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Gives looking forward to meeting you (forward like in straight ahead) 
an entirely different meaning ;-).


Boris

On 5/4/2010 3:07 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

Chris


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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-04 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 04 May 2010 06:29 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35222396
 
 J


Ah, geeze Jack.  We were just recovering from the K7 Replacement thread.

Looks like my inbox might be overflowing when I log on in the morning. 
:-)

And so to bed



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Re: smc FA 35-80mm f3.5-5.6 for the sake of my LBA...

2010-05-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Had an almost new one, at the same time I had a F 35-70 3.5~4.5 and a FA 
28-70 4.0.


I still have the 35-70.  (I'd like to find it a new home, I don't use it 
enough, but they're so inexpensive it's hardly worth it).


I found a replacement 28-70 when the rear aspheric element separated.

I got rid of the 35-80 as fast as I could.



On 5/4/2010 2:56 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote:

I'd been buying several older FA lenses and Samsung's D-series lenses
recently. Found good deal for FA 35-80mm f/3.5-5.6 tele-zoom. What can
you say about it? I can't find many larger sample images to see what
it's about in pictures...

Your comments highly appreciated,




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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Chris,
Nice to see you making good use of our spectacular weather.
The reflections are really nice, especially the architectural details.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:28 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: OT Mac question


 My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew.
 About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user
 name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no
 such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15
 minutes.

 Can i get rid of it some how.??

 Buy a PC.

 HAR!!!

 William Robb

I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac.

HAR

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Re: I've been Blurbed....

2010-05-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On 5/3/2010 4:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

  which is a lot better than being slimmed, i know.

 Had a quick look at the book, no obvious printing problems that i can see.

 There was some incoherent ramblings from some Brewer guy, but i can
 live with that mistake.

 At least he can spell.

Can he.??

Dave




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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-04 Thread CheekyGeek
I believe that I will be buying a second digital body within the next
year. My first is the K200D.

Frankly, if I could have one of the new cameras be the K200D body with
a Sony EXMOR or EXMOR-R sensor with high ISO noise performance  Live
View I would be ecstatic. I think that  an articulating LCD would be
icing on the cake. I love the K-x performance/IQ but I dislike the
smaller body (ergonomics) and the K-x's LACK of some pro/semi-pro
features like remote shutter plug, add-on battery pack, and
weather-proofing seals.

Darren Addy
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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread Jerry in Arizona
We seem to be the only place that glorifies gluttony.


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Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:02:13 -0400
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And Americans wonder why there is a problem with obesity...  Seriously, some 
of those 1, 2 and 3 pound burgers are meant for just one person but could 
easily feed 4 or more.  I really don't get the fascination with oversized 
meals.

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Re: OT: My first race

2010-05-04 Thread Subash
On Tue, 4 May 2010 19:44:57 +1200
David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:

 On May 4, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Subash wrote:
 
  congratulations Dave. that's an amazing time. i ran my first HM too
  a couple of months back in february. more like jogged since i took
  about 2:40. i was somewhere in the bottom half, but still very
  happy to finish without walking :) working on it... :)
 
 It's great being able to do the distance, isn't it?  My training plan
 was to make sure I could do the distance before entering.   The
 longest I'd run before then was about 15km.  It hurt like hell but I
 made it through sheer stubborn determination.  Since then I've
 improved my time by about 10 minutes in three months.

it is. :) the longest i had done prior to the race was about 16.5 km.
the last three km of the HM were hell, really dragged the time down but
managed to plod on and it did feel great at the finish. but, i am in no
hurry. my next one is about 5 months away... :)

regards, subash

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 3/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew.
About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user
name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no
such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15
minutes.

Can i get rid of it some how.??

 Dave, in what application are you getting the pop-up?

After logging onto the net.

I deleted all of my . mac keychains last night. I'm not getting the
pop up any more for the log in to idisk/barnyardcam, so it was looking
for my mail service me thinks.
Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my
password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and
it goes away.

Dave

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Re: PESO: Waiting In The Train Station

2010-05-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cory,
 Beautiful portrait.
 And you'll see some firmware updates to 2.1 and 2.2 soon enough!
 Regards,  Bob S.  (proud father of a daughter model 1.5, fully
 functional and living on her own!)

My daughter firmware was updated from 2.0 to 2.1.1 with the purchase
of the town house. I hope they make a few mortgage payments before she
up grades to daughter 2.2.1.

Dave

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:54 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thats really nice.

 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/12042335_JtgJ3#854572431_cSHvA-A-LB
 
  Daughter 2.0 waiting for the museum to open.

 I hear there is a firmware update to daughter 2.1 soon.;-)

 Dave
 
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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/

 Comments, criticisms and suggestions are encouraged.

 Dan

 Jeez, Dan - that's not a breakfast, that's a fruit salad. A real breakfast
 has eggs, bacon, sausages, black pudding, beans, fried tomatoes, spam,
 mushrooms, eggy bread, HP sauce and an enormous mug of tea. And it costs
 1/6d.

No spam.??

Dave

 A bit like this, without all the useless vitamin C:
 http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/5820/the-ultimate-makeover-full-english-
 breakfast

 It's a great photo though.

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my
password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and

I think you must have iDisk trying to connect as a startup procedure.
You should be able to turn this off.

System PrefsSystemAcountsYour accountLogin Items  find the offending
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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Jeez, Dan - that's not a breakfast, that's a fruit salad. A real breakfast
 has eggs, bacon, sausages, black pudding, beans, fried tomatoes, spam,
 mushrooms, eggy bread, HP sauce and an enormous mug of tea. And it costs
 1/6d.

No spam.??

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my
password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and

 I think you must have iDisk trying to connect as a startup procedure.
 You should be able to turn this off.

 System PrefsSystemAcountsYour accountLogin Items  find the offending
 login item and ditch it!

Hum, only item in Login Items is iTunes helper or some such thing.

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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread P. J. Alling

You've obviously not traveled much.  We're just open about it.

On 5/4/2010 11:05 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

We seem to be the only place that glorifies gluttony.


   

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And Americans wonder why there is a problem with obesity...  Seriously, some of 
those 1, 2 and 3 pound burgers are meant for justone person but could easily 
feed 4 or more.  I really don't get the fascination with oversized meals.
 
   



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Re: I've been Blurbed....

2010-05-04 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/4/2010 10:31 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
   

On 5/3/2010 4:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 

 which is a lot better than being slimmed, i know.

Had a quick look at the book, no obvious printing problems that i can see.

There was some incoherent ramblings from some Brewer guy, but i can
live with that mistake.
   

At least he can spell.
 

Can he.??

Dave
   


As far as you know.

 
   


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Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen
Sunday night was the first night of a new blues dance venue in 
Sunnyvale.  David, Scott and I all showed up with our cameras.
Dave has a Rebel of some sort, Scott has a Nikon (D70?), and I was 
mostly using the K-x.


The lighting was uncharacteristically bright for a blues dance, at least 
on one end of the room.  I started out with the 16-50, but eventually 
swapped to the PFA50/1.4.  Dave started out using some zoom that only 
opened up to 3.5 but went to some 50, and Scott ended up with his 50/1.8.


Usually when I shoot, I go full manual, but there was enough light for 
autofocus. Also the range of light was so great, and changed so quickly 
over just a few feet, I ended up shooting in aperture priority mode. 
Unfortunately, I didn't notice when I inadvertently muffed up the EV and 
was shooting everything a stop or so under for a while. It looked OK 
when I quickly chimped the pictures.  I really need to learn to chimp 
more critically to make sure that things don't go wrong.


Unfortunately, I don't yet have public links for Scott and Dave's 
facebook albums.  I also haven't had time to go through and carefully 
cull out all but the best few to post on flickr, I've been rather busy 
getting ready for a trip I'll be going on in a couple of days.


One reason that the Karen, the asian woman with the red pants and dark 
top, shows up in so many of the photos is that she is Scott's wife.


My photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

David's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread CheekyGeek
Facebook = Great way to limit prospective viewers

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Sunday night was the first night of a new blues dance venue in Sunnyvale.
  David, Scott and I all showed up with our cameras.
 Dave has a Rebel of some sort, Scott has a Nikon (D70?), and I was mostly
 using the K-x.

 The lighting was uncharacteristically bright for a blues dance, at least on
 one end of the room.  I started out with the 16-50, but eventually swapped
 to the PFA50/1.4.  Dave started out using some zoom that only opened up to
 3.5 but went to some 50, and Scott ended up with his 50/1.8.

 Usually when I shoot, I go full manual, but there was enough light for
 autofocus. Also the range of light was so great, and changed so quickly over
 just a few feet, I ended up shooting in aperture priority mode.
 Unfortunately, I didn't notice when I inadvertently muffed up the EV and was
 shooting everything a stop or so under for a while. It looked OK when I
 quickly chimped the pictures.  I really need to learn to chimp more
 critically to make sure that things don't go wrong.

 Unfortunately, I don't yet have public links for Scott and Dave's facebook
 albums.  I also haven't had time to go through and carefully cull out all
 but the best few to post on flickr, I've been rather busy getting ready for
 a trip I'll be going on in a couple of days.

 One reason that the Karen, the asian woman with the red pants and dark top,
 shows up in so many of the photos is that she is Scott's wife.

 My photos:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

 Scott's:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

 David's:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Sunday night was the first night of a new blues dance venue in 
Sunnyvale.  David, Scott and I all showed up with our cameras.
Dave has a Rebel of some sort, Scott has a Nikon (D70?), and I was 
mostly using the K-x.


The lighting was uncharacteristically bright for a blues dance, at 
least on one end of the room.  I started out with the 16-50, but 
eventually swapped to the PFA50/1.4.  Dave started out using some zoom 
that only opened up to 3.5 but went to some 50, and Scott ended up 
with his 50/1.8.


Usually when I shoot, I go full manual, but there was enough light for 
autofocus. Also the range of light was so great, and changed so 
quickly over just a few feet, I ended up shooting in aperture priority 
mode. Unfortunately, I didn't notice when I inadvertently muffed up 
the EV and was shooting everything a stop or so under for a while. It 
looked OK when I quickly chimped the pictures.  I really need to learn 
to chimp more critically to make sure that things don't go wrong.


Unfortunately, I don't yet have public links for Scott and Dave's 
facebook albums.  I also haven't had time to go through and carefully 
cull out all but the best few to post on flickr, I've been rather busy 
getting ready for a trip I'll be going on in a couple of days.


One reason that the Karen, the asian woman with the red pants and dark 
top, shows up in so many of the photos is that she is Scott's wife.


My photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

David's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869

Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours 
but David's and Scott's)


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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




My photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

David's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869


Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours
but David's and Scott's)



I agree.  Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and 
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social 
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots of 
dancers to the people in the photos.


Scott's public link, just posted is:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0c





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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/4/2010 2:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




My photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

David's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869


Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours
but David's and Scott's)



I agree.  Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and 
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social 
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots 
of dancers to the people in the photos.


Scott's public link, just posted is:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0c


And now, and I quote:  This content is currently unavailable

So there you have it.










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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread steve harley

On 2010-05-04 10:19 , Cotty wrote:

On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:


Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my
password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and


I think you must have iDisk trying to connect as a startup procedure.
You should be able to turn this off.



try system prefs  MobileMe  iDisk Sync and click [Stop]

or change update to Manually (if you have an iDisk, and just don't want 
it trying to sync at odd moments)


(may be slightly different on other than 10.5.x)

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:


Hum, only item in Login Items is iTunes helper or some such thing.

That's probably it. I don't have that in my logins list - try blasting
it. By that I mean click once on the item to select it, then hit the -
(minus) sign at the bottom of the list. If you just check the 'hide' box
it still runs but is hidden. You basically don't want it running at login

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread Cotty
actually Dave, all iTunes Helper does is look for an iPod when one is
attached, to automatically open iTunes for syncing. If you don't hook up
an iPod or iPhone then ditch it anyway. If you do, then you can leave it
or ditch it, if you ditch it and then hook up an iPod you'll have to
open iTunes manually to sync. I do it that way anyway - can;t stand
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Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen
I'm satisfied with the quality of prints I can get at Costco, though if 
I were willing to spend the time to do multiple tests, optimize paper 
for the shot etc, I could probably get slightly better quality doing it 
at home.


However, now that I've started printing my shots, I'm spending a fair 
amount of money each month on printing. Even so, I suspect that by the 
time I count up wasted ink, wasted paper, and the cost of a good 
printer, it's probably significantly cheaper to get them printed at Costco.


What would it cost for a printer that'll do 8x12, or 12x16 at the same 
or better quality as the big machines they have there?


By the time you count the cost of wasted ink, paper etc. what do you end 
up paying per 4x6, 8x12 and 12x16 print?

Or alternatively, what would it cost for 50 8x12s and 100 4x6 per month?

In comparison, Costco prices, before tax are:
$0.13  4x6
$1.50  8x12
$3.00 12x16

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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread steve harley

On 2010-05-04 12:17 , Cotty wrote:

On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:



Hum, only item in Login Items is iTunes helper or some such thing.


That's probably it.


iTunes Helper launches iTunes when an iPod or iPhonish device is plugged 
in; i don't think it's the cause of the password dialogs


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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 11:20 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 5/4/2010 2:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




My photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

David's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869


Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours
but David's and Scott's)



I agree. Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots
of dancers to the people in the photos.

Scott's public link, just posted is:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0c


And now, and I quote: This content is currently unavailable

So there you have it.


Cut and paste error on my part:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca



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Re: OT Mac question

2010-05-04 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks 
Subject: Re: OT Mac question





I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac.



It seems to give you a lot of grief though.

William Robb

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen

Subject: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?




By the time you count the cost of wasted ink, paper etc. what do you end 
up paying per 4x6, 8x12 and 12x16 print?

Or alternatively, what would it cost for 50 8x12s and 100 4x6 per month?

In comparison, Costco prices, before tax are:
$0.13  4x6
$1.50  8x12
$3.00 12x16



You'll end up paying more than for Costco prints, and in some respects will 
be getting a print of poorer quality.
I bought an Epson 4800 a few years ago with the intent of making big prints, 
and after costing out the paper and ink, I decided that I could justify it.

Of course, things don't work out as we think they will.
I expect that if I added everything up, I'd be paying 4-5X to print a 16x20 
at home than what the most expensive printing service local to me would 
charge.


William Robb 



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Re: Photo annual has landed (without flowers)

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
...Or cats.

Maybe we should keep it that way!

Just sayin...  ;-)


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On 02/05/2010, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 The book arrived last week. Congrats everyone!
 What strikes me most: I didn't spot any flowers (not counting flowers
 in landscapes).
 Something to remember for my submissions next year...

 Toine

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread eckinator
2010/5/4 Andrea Coffey why@gmail.com:
 I tried a different approach on my last trip: I used the Novoflex
 Basic Ball tripod, and one (carbon fibre) telescope rod accessory.
 http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/camera-support-systems/macro-tripods/basicball/
 I used a Leica ball head mounted on the Basic Ball.
 http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/accessories/tripod_accessories/2200.html

 My objective was light weight, and compactness. I think this
 combination worked well, and held my K-7 with DA*200/2.8 and 1.4x(L)
 rock steady. The telescoping rod acted both as a monopod, and as a
 third leg on the tripod.

You could also buy a single QuadroPod leg from Novoflex, they make
several different ones
http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/camera-support-systems/quadropod/quadropod-legs/
There is even a telescope hiking stick plus it would have an upgrade
path to a full QuadroPod
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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 4 May 2010 14:21, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I'm satisfied with the quality of prints I can get at Costco, though if I
 were willing to spend the time to do multiple tests, optimize paper for the
 shot etc, I could probably get slightly better quality doing it at home.

 However, now that I've started printing my shots, I'm spending a fair amount
 of money each month on printing. Even so, I suspect that by the time I count
 up wasted ink, wasted paper, and the cost of a good printer, it's probably
 significantly cheaper to get them printed at Costco.

 What would it cost for a printer that'll do 8x12, or 12x16 at the same or
 better quality as the big machines they have there?

 By the time you count the cost of wasted ink, paper etc. what do you end up
 paying per 4x6, 8x12 and 12x16 print?
 Or alternatively, what would it cost for 50 8x12s and 100 4x6 per month?

 In comparison, Costco prices, before tax are:
 $0.13  4x6
 $1.50  8x12
 $3.00 12x16

I did the math a long time ago, and it's store prints all the way.
Maybe when I'm selling prints for $20,000 I'll consider doing them
myself, but for now I much prefer sending the files off to be printed
*IN* the paper than sitting at home, cursing at multiple machines, and
printing *ON* the paper.

Do you do any BW printing? If so, I can recommend a very good
printing store that specialises in BW. They offer Resin Coated and
Fiber paper printing.

Cheers,


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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 12:01 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 4 May 2010 14:21, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:




I did the math a long time ago, and it's store prints all the way.
Maybe when I'm selling prints for $20,000 I'll consider doing them
myself, but for now I much prefer sending the files off to be printed
*IN* the paper than sitting at home, cursing at multiple machines, and
printing *ON* the paper.


That was my gut level feeling.



Do you do any BW printing? If so, I can recommend a very good
printing store that specialises in BW. They offer Resin Coated and
Fiber paper printing.


I do some.  I'm always interested in knowing about good deals.



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Re: Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-04 Thread Chris Mitchell
Isn't it always warm and sunny in Chicago? That's my experience anyway...

Chris
 
 From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
 Date: 2010/05/04 Tue PM 01:11:52 GMT
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 Subject: Re: GESO - First Chicago shots
 
 So you're there already, lucky you! :-)
 Thanks for sharing!
 Nice preview. Hope we get that kind of weather for the week-end too. I
 know the forecast looks bleak, but fingers crossed... :-)
 
 Jostein
 
 2010/5/4 Chris Mitchell 
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  From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.
  http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/
 
  Chris
 
 
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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread paul stenquist
Financially, store prints are the best deal. But as a photographer, I find 
printing to an integral part of the hobby. Mastering the print is the ultimate 
challenge, and leaving that to someone else doesn't work for me.
Paul
On May 4, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 On 5/4/2010 12:01 PM, Miserere wrote:
 On 4 May 2010 14:21, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
 
 
 I did the math a long time ago, and it's store prints all the way.
 Maybe when I'm selling prints for $20,000 I'll consider doing them
 myself, but for now I much prefer sending the files off to be printed
 *IN* the paper than sitting at home, cursing at multiple machines, and
 printing *ON* the paper.
 
 That was my gut level feeling.
 
 
 Do you do any BW printing? If so, I can recommend a very good
 printing store that specialises in BW. They offer Resin Coated and
 Fiber paper printing.
 
 I do some.  I'm always interested in knowing about good deals.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 
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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Sam L
 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you do any BW printing? If so, I can recommend a very good
 printing store that specialises in BW. They offer Resin Coated and
 Fiber paper printing.

Feel free to share as I'm interested in getting some BW done.

Thanks!
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Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! (OT btw)

2010-05-04 Thread John Sessoms

%^$#*^...@$! tech support 

Need to obtain some old documents [copies of orders] to verify a period 
of active duty to qualify for GI Bill benefits. Had to have a user 
account reset - new password. Old password expired more than two years ago.


A week worth of email correspondence back  forth establishing my bona 
fides ... finally got it reset


STILL couldn't log in. Just kept popping me back to the security screen; 
no explanation what I was doing wrong.


Half a day on the phone ... MUST use internet exploder, CANNOT use 
Firefox ... gotta' run setup for IE8 or whatever it is AND internet 
exploder does NOT like the site certificate, so it's gonna' fight me 
tooth and nail every step of the way.


Then another password reset.

FINALLY !!! I'm in and prompted for a new password - 10 char, 2 upper, 2 
lower, 2 numbers, 2 special char + fill for length.


FIRST RESET is only 9 char  only 1 special char. No wonder it wouldn't 
work. Nothing to do with the browser.


Gotta install the site certificate. But internet exploder doesn't want 
to go there, not just no, but HELL NO! Finally manage to FTP it and do a 
manual install.


F^(*n' Micro$oft!!

Then, before I'm allowed do anything else, I have to go clean out my 
inbox  - 3000+ messages that must be deleted 20 at a time, and then I 
gotta go empty 3000+ messages out of the trash 20 at a time.


To top it all off, the documents I need aren't available on-line. Cannot 
use a password login to access the program that has the documents stored.


I have to go to a secure DoD computer and log in from there with a CAC 
... which I no longer have since I was required to turn it in when I 
retired from the military in 2007.




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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 12:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

Financially, store prints are the best deal. But as a photographer, I find 
printing to an integral part of the hobby. Mastering the print is the ultimate 
challenge, and leaving that to someone else doesn't work for me.
Paul


I feel very similarly, which is why I did very little serious 
photography for about 20 years.  Without access to a darkroom, it wasn't 
worth the bother and I spent time and money on other hobbies many of 
which involved fast cars or women, or at least cars I attempted to drive 
fast.


I have finally learned that my resources are finite. My strategy is to 
learn each step of the process in turn. I figure that with raw files, I 
can always go back and reprocess, or reprint the photos that are worth 
doing so, but until I'm competent with a camera, I won't have any, or at 
least many, photos that are worth investing the effort.


I hope that in the next year or two that my camera and lighting skills 
will be to the point that I'll get more improvement from investing time 
and money into learning post processing than I will practicing taking 
the pictures.  Somewhere around that time, I'll be able to justify much 
higher printing costs, at least for the best of my photos.


In the mean time, it's fun to get 8x12s of my better shots, and worth 
dropping $50-100 a month on prints.


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: AlunFoto

2010/5/4 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:


 You have to excuse Aussies, we don't go anywhere o/s for a couple of
 days, it's an event. I wouldn't exit Oz for under 3 weeks, it's just
 not worth the travel time of expense ;-(


See your point. One could just as well regard Europe to be the
exception, with so many small countries...

Btw, it goes without saying that the FA* 600/4 will stay at home this time.  :-) 


Jostein


If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere 
on 'em.


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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 4 May 2010 15:15, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you do any BW printing? If so, I can recommend a very good
 printing store that specialises in BW. They offer Resin Coated and
 Fiber paper printing.

 Feel free to share as I'm interested in getting some BW done.

 Thanks!
 ---
 Sam

For Sam and Larry:

http://www.digitalsilverimaging.com/

The owner is Eric Luden, who was an executive at Ilford Photo for 12
years--he knows his stuff. They are located a few miles from where I
live so I've had the chance to chat to Eric and see their setup. He
printed a photo of fine on Resin Coated and Fiber paper so I could
compare, and it's apples and oranges. RC offers true greys and looks
slightly contrastier to my eyes; the paper is matte. Fiber prints have
a slight yellow tint to them (more pronounced in daylight/fluorescent,
less so in tungsten), are a bit less contrasty than RC, but are
printed on thick paper that will last decades, if not centuries. It's
also a tiny bit glossy, but not enough to be annoying. Fiber is quite
a bit pricier than RC, and RC is slightly more expensive than MPix,
but having been unhappy with the BW printing I got from MPix, I've
decided to go with DSI from here on. Plus, knowing that if I have an
issue there is ONE guy I need to call, and that this ONE guy actually
cares that my print looks good because it's his company and reputation
at stake, that gives me much peace of mind.

If you guys want to contact Eric about ordering the two-print sampler
(same photo printed on both papers at 8x12), his e-mail address is
i...@digitalsilverimaging.com. I don't get any commission, but please
tell him it was me who sent you  :-)

If anyone is interested, I'll be brining along my two prints to the
exhibit in Chicago, and we can compare the quality with Mark's inkjet
print (which is a VERY good print, I should add). Obviously, they're
all the same photo  :-D

Cheers,


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Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! (OT btw)

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 4 May 2010 15:23, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 %^$#*^...@$! tech support 

[RANT]

 F^(*n' Micro$oft!!

[RANT]

 I have to go to a secure DoD computer and log in from there with a CAC ...
 which I no longer have since I was required to turn it in when I retired
 from the military in 2007.

Hopefully you're not SOL or FBB, John. Resilience and determination to
continue ahead when all odds are against you is one of those values
they try to ingrain in you in the Military, no? Looks like they want
to make sure you still have the fighting spirit.

Good luck with these e-trenches!


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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-04 13:04, P. J. Alling wrote:

You've obviously not traveled much.  We're just open about it.

On 5/4/2010 11:05 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

We seem to be the only place that glorifies gluttony.


No doubt.  Here's an experiment you can run yourself.

Learn a handful of phrases of Italian, but make sure to include I'm 
/s/ hungry and that pasta looks /s/ delicious!.  Go to an 
out-of-the-way local restaurant anywhere in Italy.  Look earnestly at 
the staff and use your hungry phrase.


Oh, make sure you've already cleared your calendar for the rest of the 
day and bought a bottle of Fernet Branca (?sp) beforehand. :-)


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Re: Tamron Adaptall 300/2.8?

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 3 May 2010 13:45, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I really shouldn't peruse craigslist when I don't have excess money.

 I found a Tamron 300/2.8 on CL today for $650.  That seems like it might be
 a pretty good price, depending on the quality of the lens.

From everything I've read, it's a very good lens, although as already
noted there are different versions and they might vary.

I know many people have bought them to use with the F 1.7x TC to
make an auto-focus 510mm f/4.7 for well under $1,000.


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Re: PESO from today's photo workshop

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 1 May 2010 17:53, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Today I did an informal photo workshop for the Hingham Land
 Conservation Trust, courtesy of a recommendation from local PDMLer
 Christine and her husband Anton. We started at 10:00 this morning and
 it was bright and sunny, so we concentrated on wildflower shots rather
 than landscapes.
 Here's one of my non-flower snaps from today:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7da01690.htm

Mark, it's not abstract at all. That's *exactly* what Spring looks
like in New England!


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Re:GESO - First Chicago shots (Chris Mitchell)

2010-05-04 Thread taylorjohn541
On Tue May 4 7:02 , Chris Mitchell wrote:


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From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

Chris


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Nice images Chris,

I especially like the tower forms in #2228. You're lucky to be there so early 
and 
have time to roam around. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the weather for the 
weekend too.
Looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the gang on Friday.


JayT

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-04 14:40, William Robb wrote:


I expect that if I added everything up, I'd be paying 4-5X to print a
16x20 at home than what the most expensive printing service local to me
would charge.


I don't at all doubt that's it's cheaper overall for me to use a 
printing service for a print.  The question in my mind is, will I end up 
doing more turns for each print?  With my home setup, I've got as 
close to a closed-loop color system as I'm likely get without spending 
really big bucks.  I edit, balance, print, done.  One turn.  I never 
have to print it twice, unless the paper feed messes up or something 
like that.  As long as I export to and preview with the service's color 
profile, can I expect to be able to keep doing prints in one turn with 
a service?


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/4 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:

 If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

 Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
 'em.

Let's see... Oslo - London by train...

Route will go through:
Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.

No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.

Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, Sweden. It
costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket to London, takes 3
hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one quarter_ of the way
yet.

I've done my share of interrailing. The fun is lost on me, I'm afraid.

Jostein

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 11:24 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 11:20 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 5/4/2010 2:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




My photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

David's:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869


Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours
but David's and Scott's)



Scott's public link, just posted is:



http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca


and David's up on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsgeisel/sets/72157623990213540/

It turns out that a bunch were also shot with his panasonic point and 
shoot too.





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Re: PESO from today's photo workshop

2010-05-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote:

On 1 May 2010 17:53, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Today I did an informal photo workshop for the Hingham Land
 Conservation Trust, courtesy of a recommendation from local PDMLer
 Christine and her husband Anton. We started at 10:00 this morning and
 it was bright and sunny, so we concentrated on wildflower shots rather
 than landscapes.
 Here's one of my non-flower snaps from today:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7da01690.htm

Mark, it's not abstract at all. That's *exactly* what Spring looks
like in New England!

Well, perhaps if the mushroom crop is a good one ;-)

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

2010/5/4 John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com:


If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
'em.


Let's see... Oslo -  London by train...

Route will go through:
Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.

No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.

Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, Sweden. It
costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket to London, takes 3
hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one quarter_ of the way
yet.


And, without looking at a map, I'll guess that the distance is somewhere 
between that of San Francisco to LA, or maybe as far as Seattle.





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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Chris Mitchell wrote:

From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

Isn't the Bean fun to photograph? And to watch other people
photographing?

Here's my personal best Bean shot:
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d703445.htm
Taken with the 10-17 fisheye, which bends the buildings of the skyline
dramatically... while the counter-distortion of the Bean makes the
reflections straight.


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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

On Tue, 04 May 2010 06:29 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35222396
 
 J



Ah, geeze Jack.  We were just recovering from the K7 Replacement thread.

Looks like my inbox might be overflowing when I log on in the morning. 
 :-) 


And so to bed


Doesn't seem to me like there's anything new or controversial that we 
didn't already know.


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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 30 April 2010 23:03, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have developed an 
 aversion to camo. What triggered it was the number of complaints about 
 pedestrians being hit by cars on base. Hell - they are all wearing camo! 
 And then they wander across the street expecting people to see them?

 stan

That's some damn good camo! I'm sure some smart salesman at the
clothes supplier can work that into an ad campaign: Camouflage so
good, not even your own people will see you! [There are currently 3
people wearing our camouflage in this ad.]


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
 2010/5/4 John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com:

 If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

 Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
 'em.

 Let's see... Oslo -  London by train...

 Route will go through:
 Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.

 No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
 national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.

 Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, Sweden. It
 costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket to London, takes 3
 hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one quarter_ of the way
 yet.

And, without looking at a map, I'll guess that the distance is somewhere 
between that of San Francisco to LA, or maybe as far as Seattle.

London to Oslo is about 1100 miles as the crow (or cormorant) flies. A
lot of water in between: Makes putting down train tracks difficult :)
Time to start digging a tunnel...


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

2010/5/4 John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com:


If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
'em.


Let's see... Oslo -   London by train...

Route will go through:
Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.

No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.

Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, Sweden. It
costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket to London, takes 3
hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one quarter_ of the way
yet.


And, without looking at a map, I'll guess that the distance is somewhere
between that of San Francisco to LA, or maybe as far as Seattle.


London to Oslo is about 1100 miles as the crow (or cormorant) flies. A
lot of water in between: Makes putting down train tracks difficult :)
Time to start digging a tunnel...



Or about LA to Seattle.
I was referring to the Oslo to Gothenburg leg of the trip.

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Re: Tamron Adaptall 300/2.8?

2010-05-04 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 03:43:05PM -0400, Miserere wrote:
 On 3 May 2010 13:45, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
  I really shouldn't peruse craigslist when I don't have excess money.
 
  I found a Tamron 300/2.8 on CL today for $650. ?That seems like it might be
  a pretty good price, depending on the quality of the lens.
 
 From everything I've read, it's a very good lens, although as already
 noted there are different versions and they might vary.
 
 I know many people have bought them to use with the F 1.7x TC to
 make an auto-focus 510mm f/4.7 for well under $1,000.

I used to have one of these (together with the matched 1.4x  2x TCs).
I only sold it because I got a pretty good deal on a Pentax A* 300/2.8,
That was probably ten years ago, and I got $1000 for the Tamron kit.

For what I was doing (shooting mostly on a monopod) there was hardly
any noticeable difference between the performance of the Tamron and
the Pentax.  If you looked really hard at images captured with the
lenses wide open, and with a TC attached (the 'L' TCs, for the Pentax)
you could perhaps see some differences at the edge of the frame.
But central image quality (or with the lens stopped down) was good
enough that I couldn't tell the difference.  Perhaps if I were using
the lenses on a good heavy tripod there might be more of a difference.
Or there might not.

In any case, it's well worth $650.

As others have pointed out, the Pentax KA Adaptall adapter can be
a problem on occasion - some people prefer to use the non-A version.
It's possible that I've still got mine lying around somewhere; I
sold my kit to a Nikon shooter, so I might have kept the adapter.

If you do end up going for the lens I'll take a rummage through
the old equipment pile to see if anything turns up.


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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-04 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:25:02PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 On 5/4/2010 12:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
 Financially, store prints are the best deal. But as a photographer, I find 
 printing to an integral part of the hobby. Mastering the print is the 
 ultimate challenge, and leaving that to someone else doesn't work for me.
 Paul
 
 I feel very similarly, which is why I did very little serious
 photography for about 20 years.  Without access to a darkroom, it
 wasn't worth the bother and I spent time and money on other hobbies


Funny, I was and am so very much into nature photography which was all about 
Kodachrome (and then E6 and now digital), that having a darkroom or being able 
to make my 
own prints was moot.  More important to me was the nail exposures and 
compositions.
For my printing now, which usually involves large (20x30 and beyond) prints, I 
trust it all to mpix.

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Re: Egypt final uploads

2010-05-04 Thread Miserere
On 3 May 2010 20:50, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 I trailed off here for a couple days so I didn't flood the group with
 my updates, but I've got all my Egypt pictures uploaded.  Everyone
 should go at least once in their life.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/

 And per Miserere's challenge, here are my top 10 from all of my
 pictures from the trip:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623986937202/

Very nice, Dave! A lot of non-touristy pics in your Top 10, which I
liked. And having the guy in the turban following the sphinx portrait
was a good move  :-)

I very much liked the Karnak Temple shot looking up through the
columns, and Shoes inside the mosque.

I'd love to visit Egypt!


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread steve harley

On 2010-05-04 13:51 , AlunFoto wrote:

Let's see... Oslo -  London by train...

Route will go through:
Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.

No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.


my first thoughts were what about a ferry, and that this is an 
interesting problem ...


seems like someone has already studied it:

http://www.seat61.com/Norway.htm

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Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast

2010-05-04 Thread Jerry in Arizona
I actually lived in Italy for 2 years . . .  been there, done that!


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On 2010-05-04 13:04, P. J. Alling wrote:
 You've obviously not traveled much.  We're just open about it.

 On 5/4/2010 11:05 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:
 We seem to be the only place that glorifies gluttony.

No doubt.  Here's an experiment you can run yourself.

Learn a handful of phrases of Italian, but make sure to include I'm 
/s/ hungry and that pasta looks /s/ delicious!.  Go to an 
out-of-the-way local restaurant anywhere in Italy.  Look earnestly at 
the staff and use your hungry phrase.

Oh, make sure you've already cleared your calendar for the rest of the 
day and bought a bottle of Fernet Branca (?sp) beforehand. :-)

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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-04 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 03:59:30PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
 From: Brian Walters
 On Tue, 04 May 2010 06:29 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35222396
   J


 Ah, geeze Jack.  We were just recovering from the K7 Replacement thread.

 Looks like my inbox might be overflowing when I log on in the morning.  
  :-) 

 And so to bed

 Doesn't seem to me like there's anything new or controversial that we  
 didn't already know.

Oh, I don't know.  This is the first time I've seen anyone from Pentax
mention a camera beyond the K-7 in the lineup (other than the 645D).

It looks as though we might see the expected mid-life kicker for the K-7
later on this year.  Of course there is all the usual speculation about
what this will be, and the whole range of improbable suggestions (such
as using the lower-resolution K-x sensor).  But that's nothing compared
to the predictions as to just what a higher-spec camera body would be.
There's the all-too-predictable dichotomy between those who expect (or
at least hope) to see a 'full frame' sensor and those who are sure that
Pentax aren't large enough to have three separate lens systems.

Only time will tell.


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Last year we spent 3 weeks in Italy and travelled entirely by train.  Enjoyed 
it immensely.  Even more remarkable in that I am an amputee (left leg below the 
knee) and wheelchair bound.  The Italtrain has a service called Salablue 
which put me on a  lift, put me on a disability enabled coach, and removed me 
again at our destination.  All at no additional cost.



Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
 2010/5/4 John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com:

 If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

 Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
 'em.


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Re: Re:GESO - First Chicago shots (Chris Mitchell)

2010-05-04 Thread Chris Mitchell

 
JayT wrote:
 Subject: Re:GESO - First Chicago shots 
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

   
 Nice images Chris,
 
 I especially like the tower forms in #2228. You're lucky to be there so early 
 and 
 have time to roam around. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the weather for 
 the 
 weekend too.
 Looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the gang on Friday.
 
Thanks JayT - Good to hear you're coming. 

Chris


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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




 My photos:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

 Scott's:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024

 David's:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869


 Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours
 but David's and Scott's)



I agree.  Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and 
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social 
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots of 
dancers to the people in the photos.


Scott's public link, just posted is:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0c



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Yeah, as if!

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-04 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/4 Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com:
 Last year we spent 3 weeks in Italy and travelled entirely
 by train.  Enjoyed it immensely.  Even more remarkable
 in that I am an amputee (left leg below the knee) and
 wheelchair bound.  The Italtrain has a service called
 Salablue which put me on a  lift, put me on a disability
 enabled coach, and removed me again at our destination.
 All at no additional cost.

Sounds like you had a great trip!

In my example, I was thinking more about just getting from A to B, as
a sheer transport. For that purpose, a couple of hours wasted in
airports beats a couple of days wasted on a train every time.


Jostein

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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-04 Thread David Parsons
I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do
start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is
to do.  They seem to know what they are talking about, it shouldn't be
too difficult for them.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35222396

 J




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