PESO -- Take that Bloomberg

2012-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
The mayor of New York is a notorious nanny, he obviously knows better 
than anyone how they should run their lives, so he's managed to ram 
through bans on salt on restaurant tables, fast food and convenience 
stores selling soft drinks larger than 16 oz, and horror of horrors 
smoking in public.  (Though he might be in favor smoking Marijuana but 
certainly not fully legalizing it). This young woman obviously doesn't 
care, and while I don't condone smoking I do condone sticking it in 
Bloomey's eye.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20takethatbloomberg.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0.

Notes:  My entire photo system is now crippled, desktop is out of 
comission awaiting a couple of new HD to be rebuilt, photo printer 
jammed entirely but I can still post using the laptop for now.  It 
doesn't have the best display but it's been properly calibrated so 
there's that.


As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


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Re: OT - Shoulder injury update

2012-09-25 Thread David Mann
Good to see they picked it up.  All you need to do now is rest and listen to 
your physiotherapist.

I wanna see the X-ray too, even if you have to draw one :)

My only injury today was a bruised wallet.  Maintaining bikes is not cheap.

Dave

On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:09 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got a call from the hospital yesterday. Upon reviewing x-rays they now see a 
 fracture and I should reattend Monday morning. Which I did.
 
 Fracture of the clavical right near the tip. It's like a small chip got 
 shaved off.
 
 Good news: should heal well. Six weeks in a sling and I should be good to 
 ride a bike.
 
 So I am doing my job walking and on transit. 
 
 More good news: This time I have a driver with insurance. Due to Ontario's no 
 fault system it may be hard to get pain and suffering out of him but at least 
 out-of-pockets will be covered.
 
 I actually think that bones may heal faster and more completely than soft 
 tissue (he says looking for a silver lining).
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Morgans

2012-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 25, 2012, at 10:27 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 43 of four ears forward thetas impressive

Either you or I have gone round the bend.  I can't make head nor tail of that.

Cheers,
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Re: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?

2012-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I'm involved in a web design project at work at the moment. This should
 improve things a bit and mean we're not so over-deadline.

Is your project anything like this?

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

Dave


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Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush

2012-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 25, 2012, at 2:38 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 My favourite butterfly!
 
 They really like that flower up here, too. It's lovely to see them on it 
 because the colours work so well together.

Yes they like it here too, but the flowers on our bush are white.  It also 
attracts a few yellow admirals.

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Annoying glitch

2012-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
I was trying to process photos from the dance tonight, and the color balance 
wasn't working the way it was supposed to.  All of a sudden I noticed that all 
of the photos were jpegs.  At some point yesterday, my camera got switched from 
raw, to jpeg. And 2M jpeg at that.  I don't know how, or why.  I think it was 
before I had the glitch where I had to pull the battery to get the flash to 
work again.

I'm annoyed, because that is going to make it difficult to handle the awkward 
lighting from tonight.  arrrgh.

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Re: Got a istDS today

2012-09-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

 @ a modest price, of course.
 Put the M*300/4 on it.
 I'd forgotten that 6mp can look very nice.

I'm keeping mine for infrared. Still wish the K-5 would fit my hands as
nicely as the DS does.

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Re: Peso - It's a wrap

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Three nice shots -- even the cats! I especially like the umbrellas by the 
Cristo laundry hang.
Paul
On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I finished the Back in the Day calendar and got the first proof already.. !
 It is being reprinted now. Cafe press is good about doing over what they mess 
 up...
 
 No,these pesos are not in the calendar, they just a couple of shots
 I came across while I was going through my old contact sheets and negs
 my subject line has a dual meaning :-)
 
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984812_SfcGKBP/Large
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984230_pX3qr8Z/Large
 
 
 and then there is this one:
 Warning... Cat photo!
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2108069291_kBx5Btf/Large
 
 ann
 annsan.smugmug.com
 
 
 
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About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
particularly helpful! 

And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.

:-)

cheers,
frank

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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great 
pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the 
blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and 
the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection 
in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.

On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a consideration 
 for me:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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RE: PESO: Capturing his friends

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yeah, capturing his friends backs...

;-)

I do like your photo, though, Dan. The shot od the group is good, like the 
church background and the guy with the camera (holding it at arm's length for 
maximum steadiness) is icing on the cake.

Well done.

Cheers,
frank


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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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Subject: PESO: Capturing his friends

A friend takes pictures of a group of young musicians at the outdoor
Jazz Festival:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16479690

Comments are always appreciated.
Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Vespa Princess

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks Dave. Honestly it's not the best pan. I wish she was sharper.

But the look on her face worked for me and at least partially made up for 
technical deficits in my eyes.

Thanks for the comment and thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Vespa Princess

Well done. Just the right motion here

Dave

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:32 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seen along Queen West in Toronto:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/vespa-princess.html

 I rather impressed myself with the fact that this is full-frame.

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Stan Halpin
And in those days you had to provide your own sensor!

stan

On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
 http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in
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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/25/12 8:32 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

And in those days you had to provide your own sensor!

stan


and keep replacing it.

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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote:

On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
 http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in
 today's money.
 
And in those days you had to provide your own sensor!

And replace it regularly. Every 36 shots, actually!

(In them days we were glad to have the price of a cup of tea. Cup of
cold tea. Without milk or sugar. Or tea.)

 
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Re: PESO - Vespa Princess

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Dave. Honestly it's not the best pan. I wish she was sharper.

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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread David Parsons
Ctein did a similar comparison when the 645D was announced, and the
price was very close when adjusted for inflation.

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 A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
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Re: OT - Shoulder injury update

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Dave. I have to say that I am really impressed with the care I have 
received both this time and previous occasions at this hospital (St. Joseph's 
in Toronto). I can't blame a harried ER doctor for missing a difficult call and 
I am grateful that they obviously take great care in reviewing and following up 
on files. I was told by the doctor yesterday morning that it's a break that 
she's never seen before and a difficult catch for anyone to see in the x-rays.

To answer a few earlier posters, there is no physio yet. Keeping it as still as 
possible is what's needed now. As the bone knits I will be assigned physio to 
make sure that shoulders don't freeze and some strength is built up.

Like the other day, will not clog the list with individual replies but a big 
thanks to all (whether you replied or not) for thoughts and support.

This could have been so much worse. I am grateful I am walking and have an 
intact cranium and (most important) that my beautiful Marinoni is still with us.

;-)

cheers,
frank aka the one-armed bandit

Ps: Carrying K10D with me at work. Ann, I already have a subway shot from 
yesterday! Hope to get a few good streeties (as Derby calls them).

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From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
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Subject: Re: OT - Shoulder injury update

Good to see they picked it up.  All you need to do now is rest and listen to 
your physiotherapist.

I wanna see the X-ray too, even if you have to draw one :)

My only injury today was a bruised wallet.  Maintaining bikes is not cheap.

Dave

On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:09 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got a call from the hospital yesterday. Upon reviewing x-rays they now see a 
 fracture and I should reattend Monday morning. Which I did.
 
 Fracture of the clavical right near the tip. It's like a small chip got 
 shaved off.
 
 Good news: should heal well. Six weeks in a sling and I should be good to 
 ride a bike.
 
 So I am doing my job walking and on transit. 
 
 More good news: This time I have a driver with insurance. Due to Ontario's no 
 fault system it may be hard to get pain and suffering out of him but at least 
 out-of-pockets will be covered.
 
 I actually think that bones may heal faster and more completely than soft 
 tissue (he says looking for a silver lining).
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
 particularly helpful!

 And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.

 :-)

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
 pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
 blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and
 the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection
 in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.

 On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a 
 consideration for me:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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Re: Peso - It's a wrap

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think the cats are casing the joint.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Three nice shots -- even the cats! I especially like the umbrellas by the 
 Cristo laundry hang.
 Paul
 On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I finished the Back in the Day calendar and got the first proof already.. !
 It is being reprinted now. Cafe press is good about doing over what they 
 mess up...

 No,these pesos are not in the calendar, they just a couple of shots
 I came across while I was going through my old contact sheets and negs
 my subject line has a dual meaning :-)


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984812_SfcGKBP/Large

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984230_pX3qr8Z/Large


 and then there is this one:
 Warning... Cat photo!

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2108069291_kBx5Btf/Large

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Re: PESO + GESO - Space Shuttle Endeavour flying low over, Berkeley, CA

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Not mine but one I saw elsewhere:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jrodmanjr/8010721330/in/photostream

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Works fine for me too - Now!  Hitting the + cursor a couple of times makes it 
 huge. The skin on the cargo bay doors (HAL) is so thin (so they will be light 
 weight) you can see the ribs. Guessing there.


 On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:09 , John Sessoms wrote:

 The link worked just fine for me. Interesting article  nice photo.

 Although, I did kind of wonder about Shuttle Challenger disaster being the 
 only failed mission in the Space Shuttle fleet’s history.

 Does the author consider Shuttle Columbia's last mission a success?

 From: Joseph McAllister

 Crap. Though I took the URL from the image I have, it no longer takes
 you to that image. Several Google searches using various
 terminologies doesn't drag it up. Sorry for wasting your time.

 On Sep 24, 2012, at 09:03 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

 There is a very nice shot of the shuttle taken from directly above
 floating around on the 'net. It's not new, 2010, but is unusual. As
 an old photo reconn guy, I would guess it was shot from a photo-jet
 version of one of the birds so equipped we've used in the past 30
 years.

 http://www.universetoday.com/62092/space-shuttle-endeavor/

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Re: Yet Another Holiday

2012-09-25 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-25 7:28 Rick Womer wrote

They didn't recognize the Most Endangered Punctuation: the apostrophe.  The number of 
people who understand that it's for contractions and possessives (except, of course, for 
its), and NOT for plurals, seems to be plummeting.


the people who use it for plurals may be victims of the New York Times policy 
(which i disfavor) of constructions like 90's and DVD's; the justification is 
that this works better in all-caps headlines (which i also disfavor)




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Re: DA 35 DA 55-300 on film

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good to know. A nice set of photos.
Paul

On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 Delurking...
 
 For the full frame monger: I used a DA 35/2.4 AL  a DA 55-300/4-5.8
 ED on a film camera (MZ-3+Ilford XP-2).
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/sets/72157631620661628/
 
 The backstory: went shooting with my kids.  When my daughter got tired
 and the light was getting too low for the FA 28-105 on the MZ-3, I
 swapped her DA 35.  Surprised with how it worked; the next day I went
 out with the DA 55-300.
 
 So there.
 
 Back lurking...
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Re: DA 35 DA 55-300 on film

2012-09-25 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-25 9:31 Bong Manayon wrote

Delurking...

For the full frame monger: I used a DA 35/2.4 AL  a DA 55-300/4-5.8
ED on a film camera (MZ-3+Ilford XP-2).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/sets/72157631620661628/


really enjoyed the quiet scenes you shot with the DA 35, and the lens appears 
to perform very well too



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Re: DA 35 DA 55-300 on film

2012-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/8023433160/in/set-72157631620661628/

Boy if there is ANY vignetting in the corners I would say that is
certainly isn't objectionable. Thanks for sharing that, Bong.

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Re: Annoying glitch

2012-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was trying to process photos from the dance tonight, and the color balance 
 wasn't working the way it was supposed to.  All of a sudden I noticed that 
 all of the photos were jpegs.  At some point yesterday, my camera got 
 switched from raw, to jpeg. And 2M jpeg at that.  I don't know how, or why.  
 I think it was before I had the glitch where I had to pull the battery to get 
 the flash to work again.
 
 I'm annoyed, because that is going to make it difficult to handle the awkward 
 lighting from tonight.  arrrgh.

I don't know what happened.  I don't see any other settings that were changed.  
I suppose that buttons could have been pushed with it in my camera bag and they 
just happened to be what was needed to change the file format.

Having already had my camera spazz out on me a couple of times, I'm just a wee 
bit nervous about this.


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PESO 2012 - Balda photos - GDG

2012-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've been itching to take the old Balda (1955ish Baldix 6x6 folder) for a walk 
since it arrived, finally had a chance to do so over the weekend. 

I loaded it with Fuji Acros 100 for testing. I made a loading mistake this 
first time which cost me one frame out of the twelve. I know what I did wrong 
so I'll not do that one again. 

Otherwise, the camera performed very nicely other than for opening it. The lens 
standard mechanism is sticky and I think there's something bent or slightly out 
of alignment in it. It opens and snaps into place properly, eventually, but it 
takes a lot of careful fussing to make that happen. I'll bring it by the camera 
repair shop and see what Fred can do to massage it. Otherwise, the lens seems 
good, the shutter seems pretty accurate and the images have that lovely vintage 
look to them ... I felt good about posting a couple:

#2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019828444/lightbox

#6: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019827304/lightbox

It's a lot of fun to let go of all the bits and bytes with a camera like this. 
And I still love the look of 6x6 photographs.
  
Thanks for looking! Comments are always appreciated. 

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Re: PESO 2012 - Balda photos - GDG

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
A nice look. I especially like the tree photo. Great light that produces a 
lovely glow here.
Paul
On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:

 I've been itching to take the old Balda (1955ish Baldix 6x6 folder) for a 
 walk since it arrived, finally had a chance to do so over the weekend. 
 
 I loaded it with Fuji Acros 100 for testing. I made a loading mistake this 
 first time which cost me one frame out of the twelve. I know what I did wrong 
 so I'll not do that one again. 
 
 Otherwise, the camera performed very nicely other than for opening it. The 
 lens standard mechanism is sticky and I think there's something bent or 
 slightly out of alignment in it. It opens and snaps into place properly, 
 eventually, but it takes a lot of careful fussing to make that happen. I'll 
 bring it by the camera repair shop and see what Fred can do to massage it. 
 Otherwise, the lens seems good, the shutter seems pretty accurate and the 
 images have that lovely vintage look to them ... I felt good about posting a 
 couple:
 
 #2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019828444/lightbox
 
 #6: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019827304/lightbox
 
 It's a lot of fun to let go of all the bits and bytes with a camera like 
 this. And I still love the look of 6x6 photographs.
 
 Thanks for looking! Comments are always appreciated. 
 
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread Don Guthrie
 A loaf of bread,a jug of wine, and thou I like this photo. It says 
the world in three objects.



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:51:30 + (UTC)
From:knarftheria...@gmail.com  knarftheria...@gmail.com
To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
Message-ID:

1036688673.236604.1348537904875.javamail.se...@ap7.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures really 
are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a consideration for me:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank



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Re: Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 105

2012-09-25 Thread Don Guthrie

There's lots of fun to be had there. Good luck.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 12 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:26:04 -0400 From: Michael Beacom
mbea...@mac.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject:
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 105 Message-ID:
673288d5-5064-46ec-b37e-9d28e3ee9...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain;
CHARSET=US-ASCII Well- I did it. The Pen got here today, the m42 and K
adapters arrived last Friday. It looks like a nice way to get a little
more use out of the old manual focus lenses. Cameraquest will be glad to
sell you a Voigtlander 17.5mm f/0.95 or 25mm f/0.95 manual focus, micro
2/3 lens for about $1200 each... Did a little poking around with it
tonight. Bolted on the old full frame Zenitar 16mm fisheye. Most of the
fishiness was cropped out by the small sensor- There was surprisingly
little distortion left. Will post a few examples, once I get a SD card
in it. On Sep 12, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

  Yes Mike, I have one and have mated it with manual focus lenses back to 
screw-mounted Pentax Ricoh Canon and and sharp an old Russian-made using a rather 
bizarre tilt-shift adapter.

I had the same problems with manual focus that I do with any camera - I ain't 
very good at it. If you have the time to zoom in with the preview button you can 
do very well. And I have had good luck with close-up work.

Frankly I use mine all the time as my carry around  back-up and video 
shooter. I advise you to snap one up. There are adapters for almost any type of lens 
just search Amazon for micro 4/3s. Because of the sensor size everything is more or 
less telephoto. Even my 10 to 20 Sigma is a 20 on the Oly. One of my favorite Pentax 
lenses on Oly is the cheap but surprisingly good 35-80. Plastic but very lightweight.




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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:29:03 -0400
From: Michael Beacommbea...@mac.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Refurbished E-PL1 body through Amazon for $120
Message-ID:3998ab3c-7c5b-4f25-908c-b2612f95a...@mac.com
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Also sold on e-bay. Cameta has 6 left as I write this.

You've got my attention now (currently in acquisition mode) Any one have 
experience with it with Manual Focus K-mount lenses?
Is it annoying?

Cheers
Mike






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Re: K5 acting up?... plus a PESO

2012-09-25 Thread Igor Roshchin

Bruce,

I assume that the only thing these units do to a flash is triggering, 
and nothing else. I.e. any simple flash should work if the trigger
voltage is compatible.

The webpage lists just a handfull of Pentax flashes there
(while adding Other flash models with a trigger voltage of 12V or lower.)
Do you know if there is anything in this device that would
prevent it from working with any flash with 12V trigger voltage?

I expect it should work with Pentax AF-500 FTZ flash. 
I wonder if it would work with an older generic (non-dedicated, A-mode
capable) Vivitar flash that I purchased in 1994 and used with my 
first SLR, Kiev 19.

Igor



Mon Sep 24 15:05:52 EDT 2012
Bruce Walker wrote:

 I'm really happy with the Cowboy Studios NPT-04 kit; I have two of
 them. One trigger, two receivers for $32:
 
 http://www.cowboystudio.com/product_p/npt-04+extra%20receiver.htm
 
 They work for a great distance, and work fine at 1/160th sync speed. I
 order them from Amazon.
 
 Here's a critical thing though: clean all the contacts, battery and
 hotshoe, thoroughly with electrical contact cleaner before any use.
 They are quite sensitive to dirty contacts and will misfire badly if
 you don't clean them. I keep some Q-tips with an aerosol can of Hosa
 DeoxIT. And bring spare AAA dry cells for the receivers.



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Re: A proposed experiment (K-7 vs K-5 with film lens vs digital-optimized lens)

2012-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
Falk Lumo replied to (some of) my questions, although in a rather
incomplete and data-light way:
- - -

Hi again,

you address many interesting questions here. Unfortunately, it isn't
my current focus of interest, so I'll confine myself to share some of
my understandings and opinions with you. I won't be able to do own
research on this.

Here we go ...

1. Digitally optimized vs. film lenses

I think that distinction is a thing of the past when it comes to
dSLRs. Due to the retrofocus design of SLR lenses, the angle of
incidence even of outer rays never becomes too large.

It used to be an issue but I think the microlens designs solved that.
Olympus created telecentric designs and a huge mount for a small
sensor for nothing. This is the main reason we got ��T now.

2. Shorter flange distances

The NEX-7 fails miserably with wide angle lenses on its shorter flange
distance. Ask NEX-7 users. OTOH, the Leica M9 performs rather nicely
with wide angle film lenses (M mount). So, a proper microlens design
is crucial and I don't buy into this Exmor is thinner speech from
Sony.

When large angles of incidence become a problem, then larger pixels
(read fewer) help more than anything else. This is why the NEX-5 may
have a better image qualite than NEX-7.

3. Fringing

Wide angle lenses should produce more CA than sensor fringing, maybe
with the single exception of the new 24MP Sony APSC sensor.

4. Vignetting

But when large angles of incidence become a problem, you should see it
first with vignetting becoming extreme. DxO looked at that, the link
is here: 
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Insights/F-stop-blues

You can derive and compare the loss of large incident rays from their
data, for various sensors.


And that's about it what I can contribute to the discussion. Thank you
for your understanding.


Kind regards,
Falk

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Re: PESO - Sometimes I get the blues

2012-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
Bruce, generally I don't care for these sorts of effects, but this one is 
excellently done.

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: PESO - Sometimes I get the blues

[A resend. Original didn't make the list or archive for some reason.]

Another image from last Saturday down on the Lakeshore in Long Branch, Toronto.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8004763271/lightbox/

I got frisky with Photoshop layer modes and masks and Silver Efex Pro
2 here. Inspired by a portraiture seminar, I converted the original to
a contrasty and gritty BW, put it on a layer set to Luminosity, then
brushed in some of the original image colour by painting lightly on
its transparency mask.

Hope you don't mind it.

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 31mm/f:4.5, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
Lr 4.1, Silver Efex Pro 2.0

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Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush

2012-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
Very, very nice composition and interplay of colors, Dan.

Cheers,

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- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535

Comments are invited

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: PAW142 - Balloon

2012-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
Wonderful shot!  The color contrast, the texture contrast, and the geometric 
contrast work together beautifully.

Cheers,

Rick
 
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Subject: PAW142 - Balloon

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA21mm, 1/160s, f/11, ISO400.

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Re: Jeanloup Sieff book on ebay - attention (especially) David Savage ,Wheatfield and Bruce Walker

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/9/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Damn, I missed that one.
Annsan, yer killing me.

You might be interested in his official website, initiated by his wife:

http://www.jeanloupsieff.com/

and his daughter Sonia, who featured in many of Sieff's pics as a child:

http://www.soniasieff.com/

WARNING - both are java mad!! and both can be NSFW


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Re: printing

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/9/12, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

Eventually we'll be able to project our shots through a 4K system onto
a cinema-sized screen. 1080p is getting there, but not sufficiently
better then our plain old LCD displays. But 4K digital is decently
hi-rez.

8K is the new 4K.

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Re: Jeanloup Sieff book on ebay - attention (especially) David Savage , Wheatfield and Bruce Walker

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent. Thanks for posting the link.
Paul
On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 On 24/9/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Damn, I missed that one.
 Annsan, yer killing me.
 
 You might be interested in his official website, initiated by his wife:
 
 http://www.jeanloupsieff.com/
 
 and his daughter Sonia, who featured in many of Sieff's pics as a child:
 
 http://www.soniasieff.com/
 
 WARNING - both are java mad!! and both can be NSFW
 
 
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Re: A proposed experiment (K-7 vs K-5 with film lens vs digital-optimized lens)

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Fascinating stuff!

Thanks for sharing, Darren.


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Falk Lumo replied to (some of) my questions, although in a rather
 incomplete and data-light way:
 - - -

 Hi again,

 you address many interesting questions here. Unfortunately, it isn't
 my current focus of interest, so I'll confine myself to share some of
 my understandings and opinions with you. I won't be able to do own
 research on this.

 Here we go ...

 1. Digitally optimized vs. film lenses

 I think that distinction is a thing of the past when it comes to
 dSLRs. Due to the retrofocus design of SLR lenses, the angle of
 incidence even of outer rays never becomes too large.

 It used to be an issue but I think the microlens designs solved that.
 Olympus created telecentric designs and a huge mount for a small
 sensor for nothing. This is the main reason we got 湩T now.

 2. Shorter flange distances

 The NEX-7 fails miserably with wide angle lenses on its shorter flange
 distance. Ask NEX-7 users. OTOH, the Leica M9 performs rather nicely
 with wide angle film lenses (M mount). So, a proper microlens design
 is crucial and I don't buy into this Exmor is thinner speech from
 Sony.

 When large angles of incidence become a problem, then larger pixels
 (read fewer) help more than anything else. This is why the NEX-5 may
 have a better image qualite than NEX-7.

 3. Fringing

 Wide angle lenses should produce more CA than sensor fringing, maybe
 with the single exception of the new 24MP Sony APSC sensor.

 4. Vignetting

 But when large angles of incidence become a problem, you should see it
 first with vignetting becoming extreme. DxO looked at that, the link
 is here: 
 http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Insights/F-stop-blues

 You can derive and compare the loss of large incident rays from their
 data, for various sensors.


 And that's about it what I can contribute to the discussion. Thank you
 for your understanding.


 Kind regards,
 Falk


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Re: Jeanloup Sieff book on ebay - attention (especially) David Savage , Wheatfield and Bruce Walker

2012-09-25 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/24/12 10:28 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Speaking of books, I received my copy of the new edition of Walker
Evans' American Photographs today. I've long been a fan of his.
Think I'll give it a look tonight :)



did you get the 75th anniversary edition? I bought one, and it's a gem.

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Re: Annoying glitch

2012-09-25 Thread Tom C
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

 On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was trying to process photos from the dance tonight, and the color balance 
 wasn't working the way it was supposed to.  All of a sudden I noticed that 
 all of the photos were jpegs.  At some point yesterday, my camera got 
 switched from raw, to jpeg. And 2M jpeg at that.  I don't know how, or why.  
 I think it was before I had the glitch where I had to pull the battery to 
 get the flash to work again.

 I'm annoyed, because that is going to make it difficult to handle the 
 awkward lighting from tonight.  arrrgh.

 I don't know what happened.  I don't see any other settings that were 
 changed.  I suppose that buttons could have been pushed with it in my camera 
 bag and they just happened to be what was needed to change the file format.

 Having already had my camera spazz out on me a couple of times, I'm just a 
 wee bit nervous about this.

If you accidentally had it in GREEN mode, it records jpegs only. OTOH,
I seem to have had this issue with all 3 Pentax DSLR's I've owned. It
seems to happen very rarely, but is extremely annoying when it does.

Tom C.

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RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?

2012-09-25 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 David Mann
 
  I'm involved in a web design project at work at the moment. This
  should improve things a bit and mean we're not so over-deadline.
 
 Is your project anything like this?
 
 http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell
 

Hell, no. Ours starts in the pits and goes downhill from there. 

We have 50 different and feuding people who get final say, then it has to be
signed off by someone who hates all of them and all of us. When it's been
signed off we circulate it to the different offices round the globe who get
to tell us which bits they don't want us to show, so we have to translate
their wishes into something that a computer can understand, then get it all
signed off again, which means put back the way it was before the overseas
offices made their contribution, which was only meant to be a token gesture.


After that our principal donor will tell us why it doesn't adhere to their
standards since they changed them last without telling us, and if we don't
adhere to the standards they'll cut off our funding. So now it has to go
through the full internal review process again because it's a major change,
and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July,
but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time
zones and we can't get a quorum. 

Somebody important says Something must be done, so I make an arbitrary
decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done,
and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure.

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Re: K5 acting up?... plus a PESO

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Igor, yes: the simple trigger/receivers have no proprietary smarts,
like P-TTL. It's a simple fire-the-center-pin arrangement. So the
upside is you can trigger most any flash, and therefore the cheap and
stupid ones are all you need.

The downside is your ultra-smart P-TTL flash you paid megabucks for is
reduced to the level of the cheap and stupid flash. Meh. It also
suggests very strongly to get an incident flash meter to get more
accurate setups faster, but you can do without using trial and error.

My guess is your 500 would work fine. Quite likely your Vivitar too.
Don't sue me though. :-) Can you get more info on that Vivitar? There
are some high-voltage flashes out there that blow modern stuff up.


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Bruce,

 I assume that the only thing these units do to a flash is triggering,
 and nothing else. I.e. any simple flash should work if the trigger
 voltage is compatible.

 The webpage lists just a handfull of Pentax flashes there
 (while adding Other flash models with a trigger voltage of 12V or lower.)
 Do you know if there is anything in this device that would
 prevent it from working with any flash with 12V trigger voltage?

 I expect it should work with Pentax AF-500 FTZ flash.
 I wonder if it would work with an older generic (non-dedicated, A-mode
 capable) Vivitar flash that I purchased in 1994 and used with my
 first SLR, Kiev 19.

 Igor



 Mon Sep 24 15:05:52 EDT 2012
 Bruce Walker wrote:

 I'm really happy with the Cowboy Studios NPT-04 kit; I have two of
 them. One trigger, two receivers for $32:

 http://www.cowboystudio.com/product_p/npt-04+extra%20receiver.htm

 They work for a great distance, and work fine at 1/160th sync speed. I
 order them from Amazon.

 Here's a critical thing though: clean all the contacts, battery and
 hotshoe, thoroughly with electrical contact cleaner before any use.
 They are quite sensitive to dirty contacts and will misfire badly if
 you don't clean them. I keep some Q-tips with an aerosol can of Hosa
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Re: Got a istDS today

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
My 6mp K100Ds produced those Ragtime John street musician PESO images.
At ISO 1600 no less. They appear to be just fine. :-)

I like how small and light it is with the 18-55.


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
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 @ a modest price, of course.
 Put the M*300/4 on it.
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OT: Incommunicado and a bit irked!

2012-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

My cable modem died some time last night.

I'm having a bit of trouble with my cell phone service since Verizon 
bought out Altel - Verizon's tower is about 300 feet closer than Altel's 
tower was, but Verizon's tower is behind a hill from where I'm located. 
I used to be able to make phone calls from my desk, but now I have to go 
outside.


Makes troubleshooting cable problems over the phone with Time-Warner a 
bit of a PITA.


I was able to defeat TWC's voice-response hell system  actually talk to 
a real person, and convinced him it was actually the modem that was at 
fault.


The office where you return/exchange equipment is only about a mile from 
my house, so once I convinced the guy on the phone it was a bad modem it 
only took a few minutes to exchange it  get back on line.


But it got me to thinking I really need a POTS land-line here at the house.

Unfortunately ATT still has an absolute monopoly on residential phone 
service here in Raleigh. I cannot get service from ATT without paying 
extortion, which I refuse to do.


Anyway, I'm back. Y'all probably didn't even know I was gone.

Not going to get any work done around here today, and I got out of bed 
before noon specifically to do that.


Oh well.

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RE: lens roadmap

2012-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

It's a DC lens for APS-C digital cameras; it does come in Pentax AF
mount and it appears to be a very good lens.

At least the one I got does.

From: J.C. O'Connell


I think Sigma makes a 30mm F1.4. Dont know if its any good or comes in a
Pentax AF mount or not.

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
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 -Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net]
On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:29 PM
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Subject: Re: lens roadmap

Well, from your mouth to Pentax's ear...
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:26 PM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

On 24/09/2012 8:20 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Bill,
Do the DA 55mm f1.4 qualify or the FA 31mm f1.8 qualify?
Regards,  Bob S.



No. The 55 is a short tele, the 31 is a holdover from the film days, and
isn't what I would consider fast anyway.
A 33mm f/1.4 would be the home run.


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Re: Peso - It's a wrap

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
+1 to that. They look very suspicious. Love it!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think the cats are casing the joint.

 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 Three nice shots -- even the cats! I especially like the umbrellas by the 
 Cristo laundry hang.
 Paul
 On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I finished the Back in the Day calendar and got the first proof already.. 
 !
 It is being reprinted now. Cafe press is good about doing over what they 
 mess up...

 No,these pesos are not in the calendar, they just a couple of shots
 I came across while I was going through my old contact sheets and negs
 my subject line has a dual meaning :-)


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984812_SfcGKBP/Large

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984230_pX3qr8Z/Large


 and then there is this one:
 Warning... Cat photo!

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2108069291_kBx5Btf/Large

 ann
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Re: OT: Incommunicado and a bit irked!

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Makes me glad I haven't given up my landline yet. Does anyone else
remember when telephone service was considered as or more reliable
than train schedules? And then the cellphone was introduced. I don't
know how people put up with them.


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:51 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 My cable modem died some time last night.

 I'm having a bit of trouble with my cell phone service since Verizon bought
 out Altel - Verizon's tower is about 300 feet closer than Altel's tower was,
 but Verizon's tower is behind a hill from where I'm located. I used to be
 able to make phone calls from my desk, but now I have to go outside.

 Makes troubleshooting cable problems over the phone with Time-Warner a bit
 of a PITA.

 I was able to defeat TWC's voice-response hell system  actually talk to a
 real person, and convinced him it was actually the modem that was at fault.

 The office where you return/exchange equipment is only about a mile from my
 house, so once I convinced the guy on the phone it was a bad modem it only
 took a few minutes to exchange it  get back on line.

 But it got me to thinking I really need a POTS land-line here at the house.

 Unfortunately ATT still has an absolute monopoly on residential phone
 service here in Raleigh. I cannot get service from ATT without paying
 extortion, which I refuse to do.

 Anyway, I'm back. Y'all probably didn't even know I was gone.

 Not going to get any work done around here today, and I got out of bed
 before noon specifically to do that.

 Oh well.

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RE: PESO 2012 - Balda photos - GDG

2012-09-25 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Godfrey DiGiorgi
 
 I've been itching to take the old Balda (1955ish Baldix 6x6 folder) for
 a walk since it arrived, finally had a chance to do so over the
 weekend.
 
 I loaded it with Fuji Acros 100 for testing. I made a loading mistake
 this first time which cost me one frame out of the twelve. I know what
 I did wrong so I'll not do that one again.
 
 Otherwise, the camera performed very nicely other than for opening it.
 The lens standard mechanism is sticky and I think there's something
 bent or slightly out of alignment in it. It opens and snaps into place
 properly, eventually, but it takes a lot of careful fussing to make
 that happen. I'll bring it by the camera repair shop and see what Fred
 can do to massage it. Otherwise, the lens seems good, the shutter seems
 pretty accurate and the images have that lovely vintage look to them
 ... I felt good about posting a couple:
 
 #2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019828444/lightbox
 
 #6: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019827304/lightbox
 
 It's a lot of fun to let go of all the bits and bytes with a camera
 like this. And I still love the look of 6x6 photographs.
 

The first one, of the tree, works really well. A great subject for that type
of camera, lovely composition, light and processing. I imagine it would make
a very sellable 'fine art' (ptui!) print. 

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RE: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts


A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in
today's money.


And I'd be making $25.00 an hour.

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RE: Yet Another Holiday

2012-09-25 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Rick Womer
 
 Good link!
 
 They didn't recognize the Most Endangered Punctuation: the apostrophe.
  The number of people who understand that it's for contractions and
 possessives (except, of course, for its), and NOT for plurals, seems
 to be plummeting.
 
 Curmudgeonly,

apostrophe's arent endangered - the blood'y thing's are everywhere (except in 
the right place).

B


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Ditto what Peter says. I do like the shot though.

Next time you go there, Frank, take a collapsible scrim with you to
control the glare and let you raise the exposure so we can see the
muffin properly. I'll come with you if you need an assistant. Mmm,
chocolate.

On a more technical note: don't you find that pairing a muffin with an
espresso means that you run out of liquid long before you finish the
muffin? It's usually three or four sips or one quick swallow and that
espresso is done.

I'd rather have a cup of coffee with that chocolate muffin. With an
espresso, it should be a biscotti, I think.


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:59 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
 pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
 blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and the
 coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection in the
 saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.


 On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a
 consideration for me:


 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread Don Guthrie
These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like 
CC. Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.


http://donspix.smugmug.com/History/The-General-Store/25482546_cMH4Sz

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Re: Yet Another Holiday

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

it want's me to log-in !!! I can't!! I'm not a member and anyway's I'd loose
my password!!! Probably because of virii's !?!?!?!

For full effect you need to use your Caps Lock key as well.

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Re: OT: Incommunicado and a bit irked!

2012-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker


Makes me glad I haven't given up my landline yet. Does anyone else
remember when telephone service was considered as or more reliable
than train schedules? And then the cellphone was introduced. I don't
know how people put up with them.


The land-line was reliable. The service provider was not.

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RE: Yet Another Holiday

2012-09-25 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Mark Roberts
 
 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 it want's me to log-in !!! I can't!! I'm not a member and anyway's I'd
 loose my password!!! Probably because of virii's !?!?!?!
 
 For full effect you need to use your Caps Lock key as well.
 

My pUTER DOE'snt have a cap's lock key I called the HELP DE'sk but everytime
I tell them my name the phone cut's OUT I DON'T think there system work lol

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Re: Jeanloup Sieff book on ebay - attention (especially) David Savage ,Wheatfield and Bruce Walker

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks for that link, Steve. Now I'm _really_ looking forward to
receiving Ann's book.

[Thankfully it ain't actually Java. It's Flash mad and forces the
viewer full-screen, but otherwise it's fairly well behaved.]


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 24/9/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Damn, I missed that one.
Annsan, yer killing me.

 You might be interested in his official website, initiated by his wife:

 http://www.jeanloupsieff.com/

 and his daughter Sonia, who featured in many of Sieff's pics as a child:

 http://www.soniasieff.com/

 WARNING - both are java mad!! and both can be NSFW


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A proposed experiment (K-7 vs K-5 with film lens vs digital-optimized lens)

2012-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
I've sent a follow-up question to Falk Lumo, because it appears that
my original point is still valid, even if the Exmor (APS-C) is not
backlit or the same as the Exmor-R technology. The deep well is still
shallower (and the photo diodes are bigger). Here is my most recent
question of him:
 - - -

Thank you for your reply to my question and correcting my
misperception/confusion regarding the Exmor (APS-C) vs the Exmor-R
sensor.
I would like to follow-up my question with some corrected data then.
Here is an image from the Sony page for the Exmor (APS-C) (
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/technology/technology/theme/cmos_01.html
)

http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/ExmorAPS-C.png

It appears that my original point is still valid. By shortening the
length of the deep well (as well as using physically larger photo
diodes) it appears that more off-axis light reaches each pixel than in
the previous sensor designs. I have never seen this addressed in
experiment or comparison however. The manufacturers are not going to
make a big deal about it, because they want you to think that you must
have their digitally optimized lenses. But if one of the
improvements that come along with the Sony Exmor (APS-C) sensor is
better performance with off-axis light, then it means that a user with
legacy lenses designed for film will see an improvement in the
performance of those lenses simply by putting them on a camera with an
Exmor (APS-C) sensor.

I believe that this should be seen especially easily when it comes to
purple fringing which (as I'm sure you understand much better than
I) is a result of light bleeding into neighboring pixels and often
worst with fast film lenses. I think it would be interesting to test
(for example) two lenses that are as close as possible in specs and
have them shoot the same purple fringe inducing scene on BOTH an Exmor
sensor and a non-Exmor sensor (say the K-7 vs the K-5).

Candidates for comparison might include the Pentax-A 50mm f1.7 vs the
DA 50mm f1.8 or the Pentax-M 40mm f2.8 vs the Pentax DA 40mm F2.8mm XS
Lens

It would be interesting to know maximum off-axis ANGLE of various
lenses as well (as measured at the corners of the APS-C sensor). Is
there any way to derive that mathematically?

Thanks again for any reply you may have time to give.

- - -

I don't have a K-7 to compare with my K-5 but it seems that if someone
had those two camera models and lenses that were close to the same for
the comparison of film-era lens vs digitally optimized lens that we
could have some side-by-side comparisons.

Another comparison could be made between the DFA 100mm f2.8 and the
earlier film 100mm f2.8 macro designs.

With regard to my question of calculating the off-axis angle of
various lenses...  It seems that the angles we are talking about could
be calculated from knowing the diameter of the rear lens element and
the diameter of the image circle that covers the sensor and the
distance between that rear element and the sensor.

Doesn't digitally-optimized just mean a design that allows the use of
the smallest diameter of rear lens element that can still cover that
sensor image circle?

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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm outside of my comfort zone critiquing these, Don. :-) But I'll
give you my candid reactions, fwiw.

All good for bw rendering. Nice tones and exposure.
I really like The Brooms. Full marks!
I also like The Chemicals and Tin Cups, just not as much.

In a number of them I'd be more pleased if they had more DoF (Three
Bowls). As still life scenes I think they need to be really sharp
throughout. Many of them seemed not to have a well defined point of
interest or they included distracting elements (White Hat) so they
just seemed meh to me.

HTH.


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 These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like CC.
 Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.

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Re: Annoying glitch

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
How have you got the RAW button programmed? It can be set to toggle
RAW - JPEG and stay that way.

I programmed it long ago to toggle from RAW to RAW so it simply can't
damage anything. It's just too easy to hit by mistake.


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 On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was trying to process photos from the dance tonight, and the color balance 
 wasn't working the way it was supposed to.  All of a sudden I noticed that 
 all of the photos were jpegs.  At some point yesterday, my camera got 
 switched from raw, to jpeg. And 2M jpeg at that.  I don't know how, or why.  
 I think it was before I had the glitch where I had to pull the battery to 
 get the flash to work again.

 I'm annoyed, because that is going to make it difficult to handle the 
 awkward lighting from tonight.  arrrgh.

 I don't know what happened.  I don't see any other settings that were 
 changed.  I suppose that buttons could have been pushed with it in my camera 
 bag and they just happened to be what was needed to change the file format.

 Having already had my camera spazz out on me a couple of times, I'm just a 
 wee bit nervous about this.


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Re: Annoying glitch

2012-09-25 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Tom C caka...@gmail.com:


From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was trying to process photos from the dance tonight, and the  
color balance wasn't working the way it was supposed to.  All of a  
sudden I noticed that all of the photos were jpegs.  At some point  
yesterday, my camera got switched from raw, to jpeg. And 2M jpeg  
at that.  I don't know how, or why.  I think it was before I had  
the glitch where I had to pull the battery to get the flash to  
work again.


I'm annoyed, because that is going to make it difficult to handle  
the awkward lighting from tonight.  arrrgh.


I don't know what happened.  I don't see any other settings that  
were changed.  I suppose that buttons could have been pushed with  
it in my camera bag and they just happened to be what was needed to  
change the file format.


Having already had my camera spazz out on me a couple of times, I'm  
just a wee bit nervous about this.


If you accidentally had it in GREEN mode, it records jpegs only. OTOH,
I seem to have had this issue with all 3 Pentax DSLR's I've owned. It
seems to happen very rarely, but is extremely annoying when it does.



One of the (few) annoying aspects of the K-5 that I've come across is  
that if you put it in Green mode (maybe to hand the camera to someone  
else to take a few shots), not only does it default to JPG, it also  
defaults to sRGB even if you've programmed the thing to shoot in  
AdobeRGB.


The K200D doesn't behave like that and I can't find any way of  
changing the behaviour.  It stuffs up the file naming system.  Why  
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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like the composition and tones.  I think they would look better sharper.

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 I'm outside of my comfort zone critiquing these, Don. :-) But I'll
 give you my candid reactions, fwiw.

 All good for bw rendering. Nice tones and exposure.
 I really like The Brooms. Full marks!
 I also like The Chemicals and Tin Cups, just not as much.

 In a number of them I'd be more pleased if they had more DoF (Three
 Bowls). As still life scenes I think they need to be really sharp
 throughout. Many of them seemed not to have a well defined point of
 interest or they included distracting elements (White Hat) so they
 just seemed meh to me.

 HTH.


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 Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.

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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:


Stan Halpin wrote:


On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in
today's money.


And in those days you had to provide your own sensor!


And replace it regularly. Every 36 shots, actually!



To be pedantic, you have to change the sensor for every shot.  You  
have to replace the whole sensor mechanism every 36 shots...


:-)




(In them days we were glad to have the price of a cup of tea. Cup of
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Re: OT: Incommunicado and a bit irked!

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I use Vonage for my landline, so it all goes at once.  At that point I
take a nap and then read my Kindle.

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 From: Bruce Walker


 Makes me glad I haven't given up my landline yet. Does anyone else
 remember when telephone service was considered as or more reliable
 than train schedules? And then the cellphone was introduced. I don't
 know how people put up with them.


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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.  A body would also be
good for 10 years.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:

 Stan Halpin wrote:

 On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to
 http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in
 today's money.

 And in those days you had to provide your own sensor!


 And replace it regularly. Every 36 shots, actually!



 To be pedantic, you have to change the sensor for every shot.  You have to
 replace the whole sensor mechanism every 36 shots...

 :-)




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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread lrc
Despite them being very nice photographs, oddly enough nobody likes any of them.

:-)

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These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like 
CC. Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ?
Thanks.

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RE: Yet Another Holiday

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Somebody has killed Bob and stolen his computer!!

cheers,
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What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
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PESO - Lens and Eye

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
Actual Pentax content!

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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/12, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:

These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like 
CC. Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/History/The-General-Store/25482546_cMH4Sz

Like The Brooms a lot.

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Re: Jeanloup Sieff book on ebay - attention (especially) David Savage ,Wheatfield and Bruce Walker

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/12, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

[Thankfully it ain't actually Java. It's Flash mad and forces the
viewer full-screen, but otherwise it's fairly well behaved.]

Mind was thinking Flash, fingers typed java, go figure!

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RE: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread John Coyle

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OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.  A body would also be good for 
10 years.


And the rest - I've got three 50 year old Pentaxes (two Spotmatics and an SV) 
which are
still going strong!

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Enablement: LR4

2012-09-25 Thread Walt

Hi all!

Finally, after years of using Picasa, IrfanView and a few Photoshop 
plugins, I finally decided to break down and get some decent image 
editing software for my new setup. It's definitely going to take a while 
to get comfortable with it. I've checked out a few of the tutorial 
videos at the Adobe website, which were reasonably helpful, and wonder 
if anyone can suggest some others that would be worth taking a look at.


Any suggestions, tips, and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: Enablement: LR4

2012-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:


 Any suggestions, tips, and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Don't doi what i did and ignore things like key words and other such
things. Its making life a tad difficult with my older photos:-)

Its a great program and i find a lot of stuff on youtube, but Godders
is my go to guy:-)

Dave

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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
Hi Don

I like most of them, cause i like old stuff. Kegs is my favorites

Dave

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Re: PESO - Lens and Eye

2012-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
Good shot

Dave

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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Don Guthrie


These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like CC.
Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/History/The-General-Store/25482546_cMH4Sz



They seem a little flat to me. I dunno how to really express it. Not
enough contrast perhaps?

If The White Hat is the subject, it should be more in focus than the
raincoat hanging off to the side. Sepia toning on The Kegs is a little
overdone. Needs a richer BW with just a hint of brown.

Tin Cups is the best of the lot.

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Re: Enablement: LR4

2012-09-25 Thread Walt

On 9/25/2012 5:40 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Don't doi what i did and ignore things like key words and other such
things. Its making life a tad difficult with my older photos:-)

Its a great program and i find a lot of stuff on youtube, but Godders
is my go to guy:-)

Dave

Thanks, Dave.

I'll be sure to keep in mind the keyword stuff. But, sadly, I'm just 
horrible about doing stuff like that -- it's a procrastination thing, I 
guess.


Thankfully, I don't have many older photos, so it won't be a huge deal 
-- at least until I put off adding keywords to my newer images for so 
long that it gets to be too much of an ordeal to mess with. ;)


Thanks again!

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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote:

OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.  

Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to.
Whether you want to or not. Even if the upgrade is really *worse*
than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that
matters). Sometimes your favorite sensor is just discontinued and
you can't buy it any more even though you really want to so you have
to switch to a different sensor you don't like as much.

A body would also be good for 10 years.

At least. I've got an MX that must be 30 years old and still works
fine. Well, I assume it works fine - I haven't tried in a few years.

 
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Re: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread Walt

On 9/25/2012 2:17 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like 
CC. Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? 
Thanks.


http://donspix.smugmug.com/History/The-General-Store/25482546_cMH4Sz


Some really nice shots there, Don!

I'd have to pick Dressing Up and The Broom Maker as my favorites. 
Great tones and I especially like the detail in The Broom Maker.


Nice work!

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Re: PESO - Lens and Eye

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Whatever's gotten into you? :-)

Nicely framed and I like the high contrast.


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OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

2012-09-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year 
warranty. It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little 
annoyances which I'm hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new 
wide screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - 
automatically picks up what is right.


It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not 
fully .


can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons 
on the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond 
to mouse.


Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the 
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line 
for $179..


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Re: Peso - It's a wrap

2012-09-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks Paul, Bruce, Steve -
I need to be doing other things but what I'm in the mood for is browsing 
my old negatives and finding more to scan that I may have missed 30 
years ago.


ann


On 9/25/2012 15:00, Bruce Walker wrote:

+1 to that. They look very suspicious. Love it!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

I think the cats are casing the joint.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

Three nice shots -- even the cats! I especially like the umbrellas by the 
Cristo laundry hang.
Paul
On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


I finished the Back in the Day calendar and got the first proof already.. !
It is being reprinted now. Cafe press is good about doing over what they mess 
up...

No,these pesos are not in the calendar, they just a couple of shots
I came across while I was going through my old contact sheets and negs
my subject line has a dual meaning :-)


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984812_SfcGKBP/Large

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2107984230_pX3qr8Z/Large


and then there is this one:
Warning... Cat photo!

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_jKWjcg/1/2108069291_kBx5Btf/Large

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Re: Enablement: LR4

2012-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
Also i made some file and subfile naming mistakes which are now
haunting me, since i deleted the hard drive files but are backed up. I
have a number of files in LR that are just called NEF, not thinking to
give them unique names, that i cannot retrieve as i don't know which
ones re which.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9/25/2012 5:40 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Don't doi what i did and ignore things like key words and other such
 things. Its making life a tad difficult with my older photos:-)

 Its a great program and i find a lot of stuff on youtube, but Godders
 is my go to guy:-)

 Dave

 Thanks, Dave.

 I'll be sure to keep in mind the keyword stuff. But, sadly, I'm just
 horrible about doing stuff like that -- it's a procrastination thing, I
 guess.

 Thankfully, I don't have many older photos, so it won't be a huge deal -- at
 least until I put off adding keywords to my newer images for so long that it
 gets to be too much of an ordeal to mess with. ;)

 Thanks again!


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Re: PESO - Lens and Eye

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  That's a fine MX.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whatever's gotten into you? :-)

 Nicely framed and I like the high contrast.


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Re: Enablement: LR4

2012-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
Congratulations.

See if you can pick up an inexpensive used copy of Scott Kelby's LR book.  His 
humor gets a little tiresome at times, but it's a good basic primer.

People who only work in lightroom like to let its database keep track of 
everything.  I disagree with that approach because sometimes I need to find 
files from outside of lightroom, and sometimes I want to generate jpegs in a 
logical tree format.  I  store files into each directory in the hierarchy:

Year
month
shoot
subdirs based on the shoot.

When I read the raw files into lightroom I actually load them under the year, 
and when I'm done processing them, I move the shoot directory inot the month.  
This way I can easily see which shoots I still need to process photos from.  I 
also actually split the years up into Jan-June and July through August.

So, for example, the files I'm uploading right now will go into:

/Volumes /activedrive/photo/2012b/120925_felton
when I'm done processing them I'll have
/Volumes /activedrive/photo/2012b/1209/120925_felton/farmers_market
/Volumes /activedrive/photo/2012b/1209/120925_felton/ford_pickup

If you bracket shots, it's good to tag them as such, in case you ever go back 
to HDR process them.

I also find that I like to do a multi-pass rating system on my photos.  

I have on several occasions wished that I'd done a better job of tagging my 
photos, but I at least try to get a high level tag by subject:
musicians, flowers, aikido, landscape etc.  So by having a rough idea of date 
and subject I greatly narrow down my search.  Even if I don't have each 
musician in the band tagged in all of their photos, I can usually find the 
proper directory within a few minutes.


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 Hi all!
 
 Finally, after years of using Picasa, IrfanView and a few Photoshop plugins, 
 I finally decided to break down and get some decent image editing software 
 for my new setup. It's definitely going to take a while to get comfortable 
 with it. I've checked out a few of the tutorial videos at the Adobe website, 
 which were reasonably helpful, and wonder if anyone can suggest some others 
 that would be worth taking a look at.
 
 Any suggestions, tips, and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Ann, you should go to www.hp.com, type S1933 in the search box and
look for the link that says support and driver package. You can
download the Windows drivers with ICC profile.

To get the manuals look for the link Manuals on the left, click it
and type S1933 in the What for box. You can get quick start and user
manuals.

Cheers!


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 Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
 It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
 hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
 for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
 screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
 up what is right.

 It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
 fully .

 can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
 the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
 mouse.

 Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
 isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
 display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
 I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
These days your sensor selection is limited, but I plan to put a roll
through my SP500 when it turns 40 in 2014.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.

 Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to.
 Whether you want to or not. Even if the upgrade is really *worse*
 than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that
 matters). Sometimes your favorite sensor is just discontinued and
 you can't buy it any more even though you really want to so you have
 to switch to a different sensor you don't like as much.

A body would also be good for 10 years.

 At least. I've got an MX that must be 30 years old and still works
 fine. Well, I assume it works fine - I haven't tried in a few years.


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Never tried a pipe. Nor a ~good~ cigar. Smoked cheap cigars and I always found 
them nasty.

Even though I quit tobacco (cigarettes) long ago K have always been curious 
about pipes and (good) cigars. Not curious enough to try either though...

;-)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
 particularly helpful!

 And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.

 :-)

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
 pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
 blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and
 the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection
 in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.

 On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a 
 consideration for me:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Don. Not technically perfect by a long shot but my feelings are similar 
to yours.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re:  PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 A loaf of bread,a jug of wine, and thou I like this photo. It says 
the world in three objects.


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 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a consideration 
 for me:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Don't try it.  I took up the pipe when I quit cigarettes and got
hooked on it for 10 years.  Cigarettes taste pretty flat after a pipe.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Never tried a pipe. Nor a ~good~ cigar. Smoked cheap cigars and I always 
 found them nasty.

 Even though I quit tobacco (cigarettes) long ago K have always been curious 
 about pipes and (good) cigars. Not curious enough to try either though...

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.

 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
 particularly helpful!

 And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.

 :-)

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
 pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
 blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and
 the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection
 in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.

 On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a 
 consideration for me:

   
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's why you make the Big Bucks, eh?

cheers,
frank

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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
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Hell, no. Ours starts in the pits and goes downhill from there. 

We have 50 different and feuding people who get final say, then it has to be
signed off by someone who hates all of them and all of us. When it's been
signed off we circulate it to the different offices round the globe who get
to tell us which bits they don't want us to show, so we have to translate
their wishes into something that a computer can understand, then get it all
signed off again, which means put back the way it was before the overseas
offices made their contribution, which was only meant to be a token gesture.


After that our principal donor will tell us why it doesn't adhere to their
standards since they changed them last without telling us, and if we don't
adhere to the standards they'll cut off our funding. So now it has to go
through the full internal review process again because it's a major change,
and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July,
but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time
zones and we can't get a quorum. 

Somebody important says Something must be done, so I make an arbitrary
decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done,
and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure.

B


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RE: Geso The General Store

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
These make you look pretty comfortable to me!

I really like these. Beautifully converted/rendered and suitably anachronistic.

Lovely!

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
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--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Geso The General Store

These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like 
CC. Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/History/The-General-Store/25482546_cMH4Sz

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Re: Enablement: LR4

2012-09-25 Thread Christine Nielsen
If you are willing to spend a little ($25, I think)  I recommend signing up at 
lynda.com for a month of access to their tutorials.  They have a pretty good 
series of videos, that go over just about everything LR, soup to nuts.  You 
could probably cobble together the same info by surfing adobe and YouTube and 
googling the rest, but these are pretty comprehensive, and you can follow a 
curriculum, instead of jumping from one topic to the next.  

Good luck, you will really enjoy using Lightroom, I think!

:)
-c

On Sep 25, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all!
 
 Finally, after years of using Picasa, IrfanView and a few Photoshop plugins, 
 I finally decided to break down and get some decent image editing software 
 for my new setup. It's definitely going to take a while to get comfortable 
 with it. I've checked out a few of the tutorial videos at the Adobe website, 
 which were reasonably helpful, and wonder if anyone can suggest some others 
 that would be worth taking a look at.
 
 Any suggestions, tips, and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Not going to comment on the scrim. I takes my photos as I find 'em. Collapsible 
 scrims? What's next:  velvet backdrops and spray bottles of glycerin? 

Sheesh!

;-)

Okay, on the gustatory issue: Please be aware that those are not my coffee or 
muffin. They belong to the hands of the lovely young lady at the next table.

For me, generally speaking, espresso is a stand-alone beverage. No need for 
cake, cookies, pastry or sweets. 
Like you I will have baked goods or pastry with a regular coffee. Not the 
chocolate chip muffin in the photo, however; it's not vegan.

:-)

Thanks for the comment and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

cheers,
frank

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Ditto what Peter says. I do like the shot though.

Next time you go there, Frank, take a collapsible scrim with you to
control the glare and let you raise the exposure so we can see the
muffin properly. I'll come with you if you need an assistant. Mmm,
chocolate.

On a more technical note: don't you find that pairing a muffin with an
espresso means that you run out of liquid long before you finish the
muffin? It's usually three or four sips or one quick swallow and that
espresso is done.

I'd rather have a cup of coffee with that chocolate muffin. With an
espresso, it should be a biscotti, I think.


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:59 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
 pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
 blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and the
 coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection in the
 saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.


 On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a
 consideration for me:


 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I wasn't planning on it.

But thanks for your concern.

;-)

cheers,
frank 

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--- Original Message ---

From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Don't try it.  I took up the pipe when I quit cigarettes and got
hooked on it for 10 years.  Cigarettes taste pretty flat after a pipe.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Never tried a pipe. Nor a ~good~ cigar. Smoked cheap cigars and I always 
 found them nasty.

 Even though I quit tobacco (cigarettes) long ago K have always been curious 
 about pipes and (good) cigars. Not curious enough to try either though...

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.

 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
 particularly helpful!

 And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.

 :-)

 cheers,
 frank

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 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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 Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

 I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
 pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
 blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and
 the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection
 in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.

 On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
 really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a 
 consideration for me:

   
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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 Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a 
 lengthly search.


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RE: PESO - Lens and Eye

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Very pretty!

The camera, not your son. Good looking young man, but not pretty.

;-)

Beautifully composed and rendered!

cheers,
frank

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From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
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Subject: PESO - Lens and Eye

Actual Pentax content!

http://cottycam.posterous.com/lens-and-eye




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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I've got an MX that still works just fine (except the meter is pooched). I've 
got an SP500 (stripped down budget Spotmatic) that still functions perfectly. 
Two Spotmatics with sluggish shutters that likely only need a CLA (remember 
CLAs?). I have a Leica CL that according to the serial number was likely made 
in 1973 that works like a charm.

I have a Yashicamat LM (the meter never worked even when I bought it some 
twelve years ago). I am pretty certain it was built around 1957, making it only 
a year younger than me. Works great!

Can't imagine any current digital cameras sticking around that long.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
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Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

Steven Desjardins wrote:

OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.  

Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to.
Whether you want to or not. Even if the upgrade is really *worse*
than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that
matters). Sometimes your favorite sensor is just discontinued and
you can't buy it any more even though you really want to so you have
to switch to a different sensor you don't like as much.

A body would also be good for 10 years.

At least. I've got an MX that must be 30 years old and still works
fine. Well, I assume it works fine - I haven't tried in a few years.

 
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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

2012-09-25 Thread John Mullan

Ann,

Press MENU you bring up the menu, use the +/-  keys on the monitor to move 
up and down to select the menu item you wish to change.  Press the OK button 
to select that and a new menu should pop up for that setting, again arrows 
change the value, use OK to step to the save or return, and OK to select. 
When done use MENU to exit.


John Mullan


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From: Ann Sanfedele

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:50 PM
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Subject: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year
warranty. It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little
annoyances which I'm hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new
wide screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct -
automatically picks up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons
on the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond
to mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line
for $179..

ann

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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

2012-09-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks, Bruce!

ann


On 9/25/2012 20:38, Bruce Walker wrote:

Ann, you should go to www.hp.com, type S1933 in the search box and
look for the link that says support and driver package. You can
download the Windows drivers with ICC profile.

To get the manuals look for the link Manuals on the left, click it
and type S1933 in the What for box. You can get quick start and user
manuals.

Cheers!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
$179..

ann

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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

2012-09-25 Thread Igor Roshchin

Ann,

Sorry, I don't have time for more, but here is the manual for you:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02868122.pdf

HTH,

Igor


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele annsan at nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
 It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
 hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
 for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
 screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
 up what is right.

 It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
 fully .

 can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
 the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
 mouse.

 Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
 isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
 display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
 I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
 $179..

 ann


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