Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 18/10/07, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Gotta think like a media person Bill. If you can't show it on TV, it didn't happen. Here you go Bob http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7048284.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
On 10/18/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: Not that the Canadians are going to nuke us:-). But there are some leaks up there in the great northern expanses. Not likely Paul. Our boat is in dry dock, our helicopter crashed into the boat, and our sub caught fire. We're tied up at

Re: Starfighters Co. (was: Completely and totally OT: Politics)

2007-10-19 Thread mike wilson
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/19 Fri AM 10:01:43 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Starfighters Co. (was: Completely and totally OT: Politics) mike wilson wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/18 Thu PM 08:14:36 GMT

Re: Starfighters Co.

2007-10-19 Thread Doug Franklin
Dario Bonazza wrote: And now, let's discuss WWII planes with a quiz for warbird buffs out there. Please take a look at www.dariobonazza.com/public/KGP03047.jpg What's that? Nose of an early P-51 Mustang? Or maybe a Hawker Hurricane? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Built-in flash and syncro flashes

2007-10-19 Thread Thibouille
Actually I think Metz makes some controlled flash (small ones unfortunately) which sould work OK with that. They are supposed to learn the delay between preflash and actual flash. Those are obvioulsy made to use an external (small) flash with PS cameras. But the technology seems to exit. --

Re: Starfighters Co.

2007-10-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
Yes, it's a Merlin. No, it's neither e Messerschmitt nor another plane developed from a ME109. Dario - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Starfighters Co. Doug Franklin

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Cory Papenfuss wrote: Oh, possibly. But the point is that two megapixels *alone* won't do anything - there has to be more to it. Lower noise would count :) I don't expect Pentax to go full-frame yet but I certainly hope they don't try to cram more than 10 MP into an APS-C sensor. A 1.2-1.3

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what Adam has told us about the newest sensors, 12 megapixels with good noise characteristics might well be possible at 1.5. Could be. But every so often I look at what Nikon's getting from 12 megapixels at full-frame... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
mike wilson wrote: From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/19 Fri AM 09:05:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) On 19.10.2007, at 02:36 , Adam Maas wrote: That depends, if those extra

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 19, 2007, at 1:08 AM, mike wilson wrote: Presidents should simply commit hara-kiri when their approval rating falls below 20% and make way for the next joker. GWB could be a leader and show the way ... History would them remember him well. I think you just issued an invitation to the

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Davis
Feels right, Paul. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wouldn't be logical from a marketing point of view to introduce a camera that can't use the lenses that you've just introduced. The DA* 60-250 hasn't even seen the light of day yet. Plus, most of the full frame lenses seem to have been

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Davis
When SR is turned off, does it automatically center? It must, huh? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cory Papenfuss wrote: Oh, possibly. But the point is that two megapixels *alone* won't do anything - there has to be more to it. Lower noise would count :) I don't expect

Re: Haven't posted a PESO in a while...

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote: Very nice, and a great idea. I confess that I only thought of it because the leaden skies threatened to spoil the classic tourist crap photos I was going to take... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Slightly OT: Right clicked images find there way home

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Nope, does not work in the BBPro web pages. I tried it in several locations in the head, and i still get the save picture as pop ups. Dave On 10/13/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, drop this line into the head of any web page. body oncontextmenu=return false; That will do

LCBO Photo contest

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Mainly for the Ontario PDMLers, but I see the LCBO is having a photo contest. Five categories, winning submissions published in the Toronto Star, and a Dslr package as 1st prize. No mention of brand, but its a full kit, body, lens, flash, cards, reader, bag and printer. I think I'll submit a few

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Cotty wrote: The pecking order is 1. Shitbag 2. Fartbag 3. Sleazebag. Is there a position for smeghead in your hierarchy? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Tom, One thing you are forgetting is that pro-level 645 glass is far more readily available than the equivalent 35mm glass (outside of the FA Limiteds, the 50/1.4 and 35/2). I can readily get lenses like the 35/3.5 in 645 mount, but not so much for the 20/2.8 or 85/1.4 in K mount, let alone a

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Well, its not street photography, thats for sure. It is, however, avery lovely and peacefull photo. Love the winding river Dave On 10/17/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken this past Saturday in Pt Reyes near San Francisco. We actually went to see some of the wildlife and at the

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
On 10/17/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rarely am I thoroughly comfortable with a scene which includes large, dark featureless areas. So you have seen photos of me at GFM then. Dave I always envision that I could have made out some detail, however subtle. Just me.(?) Jack ---

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
I do like the light, but the rendering on my system looks a little flat. As light levels tweak to the shadows highlights, looks better IMHO. Cheers, Dave On 10/19/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken at the beach at Pt. Reyes - The sun was near setting and caused the soft glow

Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6544943 The blue jays are getting braver these days and i can now get about 15' or so away from them. Taken in the front yard in a bit of drizzle. K10D, FA 70-200 and cropped a bit in PSCS Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Contrast levels are always a little tricky - the monitor viewed on has some impact - too much contrast and you lose subtle detail. I'll certainly revisit and see if more boost has any negative impact. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, October 19, 2007, 10:22:42 AM, you wrote: DS I do like the

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Bruce, This version does render much cleaner. A beautiful image and composition! Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Moonrise Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:47:19 -0700 Just got

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread graywolf
There is a bit of nonsense in that article, but it seems basically correct. The thing you do not get from photos is how big the thing is. Without the weapons pod, the only way I saw one, on the ground it looked like it is on stilts. I worked on RB-47's and the 58 was almost as long as one of

Re: Slightly OT: Right clicked images find there way home

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Firefox 2.0.0.8 Dave On 10/19/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Right clicked images find there way home Nope, does not work in the BBPro web pages. I tried it in several locations in the head, and i

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Around $2400 for the two year old Canon EOS 5D. Heck if Pentax produced a virtually identical camera to that, at around that price it would be fantastic. Tom C. From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Not entirely correct, the German tanks had better communications gear, which gave the edge once combat began and a Commander who got to fight the tank full time, whereas the early T34 had a two man turret with no radio, the Commander had to aim and fire the main gun and fight the tank part

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Davis
If you are in such areas, how would I know? ;-)) Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/17/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rarely am I thoroughly comfortable with a scene which includes large, dark featureless areas. So you have seen photos of me at GFM then.

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice capture Dave, but I think its too tightly cropped. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Peso Free loaders http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6544943 The blue jays are getting braver these days and

Re: my new photo book SIGNS GONE BY - was : FS Friday - coals to New Castle

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Ann, finally had a chance to look at the photos for the calander. There are great. One question with cafe press. Do you put the calander together using their software, or just send them photoso and say you want a calander made. Dave On 10/19/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and, uh,

Re: PESO: Visitor in the office

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes it's a kitten, but I posted a puppy shot so I'm not allowed to complain. Charles Robinson wrote: Two disclaimers: 1. Not Pentax 2. Not Art. Just aaaw ..and one warning: Adorable kitten! With all that out of the way... http://charles.robinsontwins.org/

Re: FS Friday - coals to New Castle , I know - but please checkt this stuff out

2007-10-19 Thread mike wilson
ann sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: Two things: 1. Unlike your own town, Newcastle is one word. 8-) I can rationalize that (aside from being miss typo, second only to Brooks in that area) I once had an honorable mention in one of the New York Magazine's weekly contests with

Re: PESO: Visitor in the office

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
David J Brooks wrote: Cute cat. Is'nt this why Mike Johnson left the list. Oh that and flowers. and guns... cute cat. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
I like the feel of this one, however the foreground body of water is distracting to me, takes away from the rest of the image. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday,

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Look for the plaid jacket in amungst the darkness. Dave On 10/19/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are in such areas, how would I know? ;-)) Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/17/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rarely am I thoroughly comfortable

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
David Savage wrote: On 10/20/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I know, even with IS, I can't hand-hold my 300mm F4 and expect tak-sharp images; much less with the 500. Give up the coke. Yeah the caffeine in it is doing you no favours.

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Presidents should simply commit hara-kiri when their approval rating falls below 20% and make way for the next joker. GWB could be a leader and show the way ... History would them remember him well. I think you just

Shooting the Orionids

2007-10-19 Thread npx
This weekend the Orionid meteor shower will be going on. Sunday is also my birthday, so since I'm going to be staying up late anyway, I figure I might as well go out and shoot some shooting stars. What are good settings for shooting such things? Shutter speed, aperture, ISO, noise reduction

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 03:46:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: A few days ago Mike J had a really interesting historical tale of camera marketing and product lines: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2007/10/in-the-early-19.html Apropos of nothing: I just love

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele
Bruce Dayton wrote: If you will look closely, the photo is not tilted - the horizon is really out at the ocean - it is faint blue but is there. The seeming tilt is because the beach slopes down towards the ocean and the body of seems like it should be the horizon. It is deceiving that it seems

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Good eyes, that is correct - the photo is not tilted. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, October 19, 2007, 1:35:52 PM, you wrote: BO It looks to my eyes that the water in the extreme background is horizontal, BO but the beach has a slope to it. BO Bill BO -Original Message- BO From:

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Kenneth Waller I think he's on track to be our worst president ever Worse that Hilary's husband? By far ... even worse than Nancy's or Plastic Pat's ... or even Barb. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
So where does 'Turd Gnat' fit in the order? -- Bruce Friday, October 19, 2007, 10:37:40 AM, you wrote: mw Cotty wrote: On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought Cotty was the only one able to bestow shitbag status on a list member. I'm feeling that my exclusive club

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Evan Hanson I think he's on track to be our worst president ever, but yeah he deserves kudos for doing to right thing. Yeah, I can accept that. Let me know then if he ever does. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Davis
I, too, would only ware a plaid jacket in dark featureless areas. Jack --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/_IGP3061_001.jpg Cheers, Dave On 10/20/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for the plaid jacket in amongst the

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I didn't say that the photo was rotated (although it might be). It just give me a sensation that it is due to the strong, sloping foreground lines. Godfrey On Oct 19, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Bill Owens wrote: It looks to my eyes that the water in the extreme background is horizontal, but the

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
Bill Owens wrote: It looks to my eyes that the water in the extreme background is horizontal, but the beach has a slope to it. That's the way I saw it too. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Roman Melihhov wrote: I remember how it all started with K10D. Lotta rumors, unrealistic expectations, even though it can shake itself shame it still doest do the laundry. At the end it was good tool that does its job well and helps achieving excellence in photography. Now another round,

RE: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Bill Owens
It looks to my eyes that the water in the extreme background is horizontal, but the beach has a slope to it. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject:

It is crazy... (or lost opportunities for Pentax)

2007-10-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
About 1.5 years ago, at the very last moment I decided not to place my bid on e-bay for a Pentax 1.7x AF which I would have won for ~$150 or less if I placed that bid. In the last 2-5 months I saw them going on e-bay for about $300 or so. This morning one was bought for $610.

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread pnstenquist
Tom, You know Hoya management? Can you introduce them to the rest of us? Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] May be, but relative comparisons like that don't necessarially fly with those holding the purse strings. I just can't see Hoya

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today? I think it is wrong to think medium format. Medium format used a certain film type that

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
May be, but relative comparisons like that don't necessarially fly with those holding the purse strings. I just can't see Hoya management, more pragmatic than the former Pentax mgmt., going down a risky road with a 645D. Tom C. On 10/19/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So did Mamiya.

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
They're not really cameras anymore. They're optical computers. We think of the LX as a camera circa 1980. We should think of the latest crop of digital cameras as circa 10:30 AM. Regards, Bob... Art is not a reflection of reality. it is

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look at the K10D. :-) While I appreciate the low price, it's got to be hard to make money on a body that depreciates by 50% in one year. It makes me wonder if they are still in the production line. Some of the stores selling at $999

RE: Shooting the Orionids

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Tripod ISO 800 or 400 if light polluted A 20 - 31 mm lens most likely is the best choice. Over 50mm means you'll be cutting out too much sky and you don't know exactly where the meteor may fly through the frame. Too wide and the image of the meteor is likely to be to small to make a good

OT - Britain Surrenders :-)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From the Writer's Almanac 10/19/2007 It's the anniversary of the surrender that effectively ended the American Revolutionary War, in Yorktown, Virginia, in 1781. That summer, the British had expected Washington to attack New York City. But when he learned that he might be able to capture the

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
So did Mamiya. Pentax is a lot more healthy. -Adam Tom C wrote: Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today? Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

I Guess Discrimination Works Both Ways

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
BH http://tinyurl.com/2j7rz8 Tom C. That's a lot of camera sales! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Starfighters Co.

2007-10-19 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote: BTW, wind your sound up and listen to the Merlin at full blast here. Don't play the Corsair one at the top, it will make you feel ill. http://www.aviationshoppe.com/Sounds1.html There used to be a tractor pull car here in the US that had either five or seven Merlins

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Mafud? (whoops)... Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:48:15 + colostomy bag? --

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 19, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Possibly with 14bit RAW's Do you think that would be possible? I know you (or was it someone else?) have been saying the light collecting capability of sensors has been improved lately, but in order to achieve a higher bit count, a better

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today? Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax:

Re: Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have been waiting for more information on this. I expect Ned is pretty busy these past couple of weeks, and of course he's been in NY for the past week with the PhotoPlus Expo. Personally, I don't really need more high end products ... my photography doesn't require a whole lot of more

Re: Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 19, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Mark Erickson wrote: All, This may have already been discussed, but I think it's pretty significant. Ned Bunnell, an occasional poster to the Pentax forum over at DPReview, was recently promoted to President of Pentax Imaging in the USA.

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Good bet? 12MP, 5fps, improved AF system, ~20 RAW buffer, 1-2 stops better high ISO noise. ISO200-6400 native. New shutter with 1/8000 and 1/250 sync. Possibly with 14bit RAW's and Live View. Hopefully all stuffed into a K10D body (I like the K10D body) Sounds like a good

Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Erickson
All, This may have already been discussed, but I think it's pretty significant. Ned Bunnell, an occasional poster to the Pentax forum over at DPReview, was recently promoted to President of Pentax Imaging in the USA. There's a nice congratulations thread over at DPReview. In a response in

Re: What? was Striving for adequate; was Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: wendy beard On 10/18/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. I'm sure more than one person has taken photos of Belgian shepherds, and when you zoom into the image, the dog on the T-shirt has ears that look different from your Tyra image.

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Toralf Lund
Adam Maas wrote: Roman Melihhov wrote: I remember how it all started with K10D. Lotta rumors, unrealistic expectations, [ ... ] Roman. Good bet? 12MP, 5fps, improved AF system, ~20 RAW buffer, 1-2 stops better high ISO noise. ISO200-6400 native. New shutter with 1/8000 and

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 19/10/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Sounds like a good prognostication to me. Sorta like a wet dream. Nah, it's just the A700 sensor's capabilities, with the possibility of some of the D300/40D features arriving (14bit RAW, Live View). -Adam --

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. And I also noticed that the true horizon isn't rotated. It's a Gordian Knot. Paul and the funny thing is... I didn't see the ocean horizon the first time around - talk about messed up eyes ann On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I didn't

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2007-10-19, at 21:20, Mark Roberts wrote: I've heard that it was designed as a D-FA lens for full-frame coverage (but optimized for digital with the latest anti-reflective coatings) and the designation was changed to DA because it has no aperture ring. We'll see what the score is when it

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread pnstenquist
Exactly. And in order to keep the size reasonable, the image circle is usually no larger than it has to be. Of course, the difference in size is reduced at longer focal lengths. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] The center of a lens has

Re: Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 19, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Oly's had a Pro Support Services for some time, Adam. It's just darn hard to qualify for it ... You have to prove that something like 80% or more of your income comes from the use of Olympus brand camera equipment. I have three friends who are

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Whoa! That's from years ago! Stop scaring me! Regards, Bob... Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection. -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Canon 1D series, Leica M8. One never needs new lenses. You only have to think creatively and use the lenses you have. You might not be able to do *exactly* what you used to do, but for many that's not really such a terrible thing to deal with... ;-) Photographers shouldn't be so

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Given the reports on Hoya's management priorities, I can't see them allowing Pentax to embark down a road on a niche-market, low-volume product. According to Pentax and subsequently Hoya they want to be niche maker concentrating

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Mafud? (whoops)... Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:48:15 + colostomy bag? --

RE: Haven't posted a PESO in a while...

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Nicely done! Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] So here's one from a couple of years ago: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d504802.htm ist-D and 43 Limited. Adjustments in Photoshop for color/levels/curves, but the impressionistic effect is caused by photographing the

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Beach Scene Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:27:28 -0400 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
May be, but relative comparisons like that don't necessarially fly with those holding the purse strings. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today? Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
I can't see non-645 owners jumping to a 645D in masses. The 645D would be a low volume seller compared to a 24 x 36 FF body. If used glass is so readily available, Pentax would not be making money there. OTOH, if a 24 x 36 FF priced-within-reason body was released, a large number of current

RE: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
I like the ethereal look of the rocks and the light. I find the foregound confuses my eye though and I think the person is small and soft which tends to detract. Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Mafud? (whoops)... Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:48:15 + colostomy bag? --

I Guess Discrimination Cuts Both Ways...

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
BH http://tinyurl.com/2j7rz8 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
123 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
You can keep Elvis Stoiko. :-) Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:07:58 -0600 - Original Message - From:

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
The Canon 1D series are 1.3x crop, as is the Leica M8 and the (discontinued) Leica DMR for the R8/R9. -Adam Tom C wrote: Is there any camera on the market that has a 1.2/1.3 crop at the moment? It would not make sense to me to shoot for somewhere between APS-C and FF. You wouldn't *need*

I Guess Discrimination Cuts Both Ways...

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
BH http://tinyurl.com/2j7rz8 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

OT - Britain Surrenders :-)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From the Writer's Almanac 10/19/2007 It's the anniversary of the surrender that effectively ended the American Revolutionary War, in Yorktown, Virginia, in 1781. That summer, the British had expected Washington to attack New York City. But when he learned that he might be able to capture the

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:32:52 +0800 On 10/20/07, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:32:52 +0800 On 10/20/07, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Beach Scene Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:27:28 -0400 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Given the reports on Hoya's management priorities, I can't see them allowing Pentax to embark down a road on a niche-market, low-volume product. The simple fact is that 645 format MF cameras are off the radar of the vast majority of the camera buying public. It would be a stupid business

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Sandy Harris
On 10/20/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any camera on the market that has a 1.2/1.3 crop at the moment? It does not make sense to me to shoot for somewhere between APS-C and FF. You wouldn't *need* new lenses of course... Leica M8 is 1.33 or so. -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
You can keep Elvis Stoiko. :-) Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:07:58 -0600 - Original Message - From:

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Roman Melihhov wrote: I remember how it all started with K10D. Lotta rumors, unrealistic expectations, even though it can shake itself shame it still doest do the laundry. At the end it was good tool that does its job well and helps achieving excellence in photography. Now another round,

RE: Shooting the Orionids

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Tripod ISO 800 A 20 - 31 mm lens most likely is the best choice. Over 50mm means you'll be cutting out too much sky and you don't know exactly where the meteor may fly through the frame. Too wide and the image of the meteor is likely to be to small to make a good impression. Aperture, bigger

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Is there any camera on the market that has a 1.2/1.3 crop at the moment? It does not make sense to me to shoot for somewhere between APS-C and FF. You wouldn't *need* new lenses of course... Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To:

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