Re: Dust spots ;-( Give me some help!
Hi bob, I'd send it off to Pentax. Include the 2 images you linked to so they are aware of the problem and exactly what they need to fix. Has the spot been there since new and you just didn't notice it for a while due to the images you have been taking? I'd also check your early images, just to be sure that it isn't a manufacturing problem (mine didn't show up for a few weeks because I just didn't shoot anything closed down enough). I'm also not sure what efforts you need to go to to get your camera to Pentax. I can leave work early and drop off or pick up from the service department - and talk to the tech at the same time. If you have to mail your camera off and deal with people over the phone then I feel for you (I did that with an extended warranty claim once and will never buy an extended warranty again because of it). Some things are best left to the professionals, and being a professional in some areas I know that getting the best information about a problem is the biggest help the customer can provide. Leon On 13 June 2010 14:46, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: To Leon and all who replied, I've been busy today with sensor cleaning. I gave the camera's dust removal function many activations. The most troubling spot remains. I bought swabs and used 4-5 to clean the sensor. The most stubborn spot remains, plus I move some other spots around. Here's a full size picture of the worst spot, an 851x565 crop from the full frame. This is really depressing. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewK7Samples#5482110879729068482 and a full size picture http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewK7Samples#5481359232070699890 So do I send it to Pentax next? It will be 1 year old around July 4th. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory card image recovery programs
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:36:53 -0700 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I did something stupd last night and overwrote some files when copying them off an SD card. I knew that using mv rather than cp was a bad idea, but I discovered a failure mode that I hadn't thought of before. Any recommendations for a program to recover erased files off an sd card for either mac or linux? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec had success with it when I had a card corrupt command line utility. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dust spots ;-( Give me some help!
On 6/13/2010 7:46 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: To Leon and all who replied, I've been busy today with sensor cleaning. I gave the camera's dust removal function many activations. The most troubling spot remains. I bought swabs and used 4-5 to clean the sensor. The most stubborn spot remains, plus I move some other spots around. Here's a full size picture of the worst spot, an 851x565 crop from the full frame. This is really depressing. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewK7Samples#5482110879729068482 and a full size picture http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewK7Samples#5481359232070699890 So do I send it to Pentax next? It will be 1 year old around July 4th. Regards, Bob S. Bob, I routinely get my sensor cleaned by Pentax Israel. Since I learned that they do it (free of charge, etc) I never tried to clean sensors of my cameras on my own. To that end, perhaps it would be a sensible idea to send your camera for servicing. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cool Flower
On 13/06/2010, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: We spent most of today touring a plantation near Charleston, South Carolina. I saw this cool flower in the butterfly enclosure: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/12530657_Caytz#898767484_xw6j3 Very cool, looks like it's some relation to the Passionfruit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Passiflora_edulis_forma_flavicarpa.jpg -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The state of the list.
Done and very happily so. Just go here and press the Donate button: http://www.pdml.net/ Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: I've considered a number of scenarios, from a community print sale to raise funds, to just handing it over to someone who can afford to keep it going, to joining the 21st century and going to a web-based thing, but that would still have to take into consideration the bandwidth costs, which are the bulk of the out-go. Have you thought about Google Groups? I run a small mailing list which I recently shifted to Google... not sure how suitable it would be for something the size of PDML though. But it's an option you could look into. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WTD
On Jun 13, 2010, at 5:57 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.whattheduck.net/home/20100601 http://www.whattheduck.net/home/20100608 You might find a few laughs here: http://clientsfromhell.net/ Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The state of the list.
On 13/06/2010 5:46 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Done and very happily so. Just go here and press the Donate button: http://www.pdml.net/ Malcolm Ditto for me too. Regards, Pete Mac in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs
John Sessoms wrote: Semi-OT anyway ... I use these with my Pentax cameras. I've got a Quantum Battery 1+ that I think the battery is dead or discharged in storage until the battery is unrecoverable. It won't turn on, but the charging light all the power leds light up when the charger is plugged in. It takes a 6v 2.5ah sealed lead acid battery unit that looks like three D-cells soldered together and shrink wrapped. http://tinyurl.com/2epvegu Batteries Plus here in Raleigh can get the individual cells, connect them up and shrink wrap them to make a replacement. Probably cost around $30.00 ... replacement power pack is going to be at least $150 if I can even find one used. I don't think they make these any more. But I was wondering ... Is there any reason I can't replace that battery with a larger capacity Gel Cell if I can find one that will fit inside the case? If a 6v 4ah battery will fit in the case, could I safely use that in place of the the 6v 2.5ah battery. No warranty issues, these are OLD power packs. But I'd prefer not to burn up the circuitry. My understanding is that dry (ie gel, glass mat and all the other sorts) lead-acid cells require greater currents for charging than the plain vanilla version. You may want to do some serious research before taking the plunge. FWIW it seems likely that the cells would not charge if the circuitry was inadequate, rather than some damage being done to the electronics. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Doug, if you put that Paypal button on the PDML page, I'll contribute. You have been working hard to keep the list alive and at the very least we should support your effort by sharing the costs. I'm sorry to know that you have been going through difficult times. I am also in dire straits, not unemployed but almost, but I hope that things will be better for you, me and other members of the list in the near future. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
I have just seen the Donate button on the page. Done. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice required. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Ditto mike wilson escribió: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice required. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs
From: Doug Franklin On 2010-06-12 14:27, John Sessoms wrote: Is there any reason I can't replace that battery with a larger capacity Gel Cell if I can find one that will fit inside the case? If a 6v 4ah battery will fit in the case, could I safely use that in place of the the 6v 2.5ah battery. No warranty issues, these are OLD power packs. But I'd prefer not to burn up the circuitry. I don't know enough about gel cells versus NiCd cells to tell you for sure. You certainly can redo the cells that way, but I'm guessing the built in monitoring and charging circuitry may not be appropriate for gel cels unless they charge and discharge pretty much identically to NiCds. So you might have to disconnect or ignore the built in circuits and gin up a separate charger that's appropriate for gels. OTOH, you might be able to find higher capacity NiCds in the same form factor, and that's a no-brainer switch out that I've done on numerous pieces of gear over the years, but not a flash battery pack. The cells in the Battery 1+ are not NiCd cells. They're a sealed lead acid battery. The Gell Cell is another sealed lead acid battery, but I think a slightly different construction. My concern is whether the charger can handle the higher Amp Hour rating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs
From: William Robb -- From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs On 2010-06-12 14:27, John Sessoms wrote: Is there any reason I can't replace that battery with a larger capacity Gel Cell if I can find one that will fit inside the case? If a 6v 4ah battery will fit in the case, could I safely use that in place of the the 6v 2.5ah battery. No warranty issues, these are OLD power packs. But I'd prefer not to burn up the circuitry. I don't know enough about gel cells versus NiCd cells to tell you for sure. You certainly can redo the cells that way, but I'm guessing the built in monitoring and charging circuitry may not be appropriate for gel cels unless they charge and discharge pretty much identically to NiCds. So you might have to disconnect or ignore the built in circuits and gin up a separate charger that's appropriate for gels. OTOH, you might be able to find higher capacity NiCds in the same form factor, and that's a no-brainer switch out that I've done on numerous pieces of gear over the years, but not a flash battery pack. My old Metz 402 flash was equipped standard with a wet cell, and could use a NiCad pack. There was a switch on the thing for adapting the charging circuit from one to the other. When I went to a gelled acid battery, I also had to buy a separate charger to enable charging, as the 402 pack wouldn't charge the dry-fit battery, though it certainly did well using them. Anyway, I don't think John will have any problems with using gel cells, but he will probably need to make some nods to the charging circuit. They're both sealed lead acid batteries. I'm just wondering if the charger built to work with the 2.5ah battery will blow up if I try to use a 4.5ah battery. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WTD
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:20 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 5:57 AM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.whattheduck.net/home/20100601 http://www.whattheduck.net/home/20100608 You might find a few laughs here: http://clientsfromhell.net/ Dave HAR, but I can relate. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cool Flower
I have never seen anything like that before. Way cool and nice colours. Dave On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: We spent most of today touring a plantation near Charleston, South Carolina. I saw this cool flower in the butterfly enclosure: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/12530657_Caytz#898767484_xw6j3 CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dust spots ;-( Give me some help!
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: To Leon and all who replied, I've been busy today with sensor cleaning. I gave the camera's dust removal function many activations. The most troubling spot remains. I bought swabs and used 4-5 to clean the sensor. The most stubborn spot remains, plus I move some other spots around. Here's a full size picture of the worst spot, an 851x565 crop from the full frame. This is really depressing. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewK7Samples#5482110879729068482 and a full size picture http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/NewK7Samples#5481359232070699890 So do I send it to Pentax next? It will be 1 year old around July 4th. Yes, send it to Pentax. At GFM I was selling my books while seated net to Berrie Smith, the guy doing the sensor cleaning. He was very thorough and careful - pretty interesting experience to watch him at work, really. But he did get a couple of cameras (both Nikons that I saw) with spots that he simply couldn't remove by any means at all. In such cases a trip to factory service is the only option. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List: Donation (can't post to the list; Gaetan Beauchamp)PDML Digest, Vol 50, Issue 124
Hello, I have donate to the list maintener Mr. Brewer. I encourage everyone to do so. Gaetan Beauchamp Le 10-06-13 à 03:46, pdml-requ...@pdml.net a écrit : Message: 1 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:22:16 + From: drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The State of The List Message-ID: 304865383-1276395737-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-14464640...@bda110.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain jeez, Doug, how stupid of us/me not to realize that this had to cost money. Don't eBay the K20D. That's too much irony even for an academic. ;-) Give us some time to raise funding. -Original Message- From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:04:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The State of The List Paul Sorenson wrote: Doug - What kind of operating costs are we looking at? There should be no reason that we can't all contribute either through a Donate button or directly to you in order to keep the costs off your back. At least until you get back on your feet and can foot the bill entirely by yourself again. * :-D ;-) :-) * -p I'll try to answer here. The cost for hosting runs $50/month, and I'm $200 in the red as of today, so basically just the hosting runs $600 annually. I re-upped the domain name last December for a couple of years, so it's good until Dec 2011. This has all come out of my pocket, with some donations earlier this year and a gift from the list four or five years ago, both of which were greatly appreciated. Again, it must be emphasized that I have been more than happy to do this, as well as the maintenance over the years. I've just added a donation button to the pdml.net site. It looks like shite right now, and I'm hoping to re-write the page to look better some time this weekend; keep in mind that I am single-parenting this week while Mrs. List Guy visits her grandmother in Colorado, so time is hard to come by. Thanks for your inquiries and whatnot, both on and off list. Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Special Petnax lens offer
Buy 2, get 2 free http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Glasses/slides/20100613-_IGP3530.html Or http://bit.ly/aYzopE Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs
John Sessoms wrote: From: William Robb -- From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs On 2010-06-12 14:27, John Sessoms wrote: Is there any reason I can't replace that battery with a larger capacity Gel Cell if I can find one that will fit inside the case? If a 6v 4ah battery will fit in the case, could I safely use that in place of the the 6v 2.5ah battery. No warranty issues, these are OLD power packs. But I'd prefer not to burn up the circuitry. I don't know enough about gel cells versus NiCd cells to tell you for sure. You certainly can redo the cells that way, but I'm guessing the built in monitoring and charging circuitry may not be appropriate for gel cels unless they charge and discharge pretty much identically to NiCds. So you might have to disconnect or ignore the built in circuits and gin up a separate charger that's appropriate for gels. OTOH, you might be able to find higher capacity NiCds in the same form factor, and that's a no-brainer switch out that I've done on numerous pieces of gear over the years, but not a flash battery pack. My old Metz 402 flash was equipped standard with a wet cell, and could use a NiCad pack. There was a switch on the thing for adapting the charging circuit from one to the other. When I went to a gelled acid battery, I also had to buy a separate charger to enable charging, as the 402 pack wouldn't charge the dry-fit battery, though it certainly did well using them. Anyway, I don't think John will have any problems with using gel cells, but he will probably need to make some nods to the charging circuit. They're both sealed lead acid batteries. I'm just wondering if the charger built to work with the 2.5ah battery will blow up if I try to use a 4.5ah battery. Generally, that would not be the case. The lower-rated charger would just take longer to charge the cells fully. But I do believe that there are complications with the newer versions of lead-acid batteries. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Special Petnax lens offer
Your pet nax Eric? Seriously, nice glasses =) Cheers Ecke 2010/6/13 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: Buy 2, get 2 free http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Glasses/slides/20100613-_IGP3530.html Or http://bit.ly/aYzopE Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List: Donation (can't post to the list; Gaetan Beauchamp)PDML Digest, Vol 50, Issue 124
Gaëtan Beauchamp wrote: Hello, I have donate to the list maintener Mr. Brewer. I encourage everyone to do so. Gaetan Beauchamp As a side issue, maybe posters would like to take more care with trimming posts of unneeded excrescences. Especially as I (guilty as anyone) am paying, now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory card image recovery programs
forget about easeus data recovery wizard getdataback for fat is so-so no other experiences to report good luck ecke 2010/6/12 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I did something stupd last night and overwrote some files when copying them off an SD card. I knew that using mv rather than cp was a bad idea, but I discovered a failure mode that I hadn't thought of before. Any recommendations for a program to recover erased files off an sd card for either mac or linux? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
2010/6/13 Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es: Ditto Ditto, too. What's Beth got to do with it, anyway? Cheers Ecke PS: My thanks to Doug for doing this! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Special Petnax lens offer
Didn't spot that after much proof-readnig :-) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eckinator Sent: 13 June 2010 14:57 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Special Petnax lens offer Your pet nax Eric? Seriously, nice glasses =) Cheers Ecke 2010/6/13 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: Buy 2, get 2 free http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Glasses/slides/20100613-_IGP3530.html Or http://bit.ly/aYzopE Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Special Petnax lens offer
they don't seem to be working very well... Didn't spot that after much proof-readnig :-) Your pet nax Eric? Seriously, nice glasses =) Cheers Ecke 2010/6/13 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: Buy 2, get 2 free http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Glasses/slides/20100613-_IGP3530.html Or http://bit.ly/aYzopE Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
mike wilson wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice required. well, I did spot a nice late-'70's 500SL for sale when I was driving to GFM... Seriously, within minutes of posting my last reply to this thread, Baby Girl, propelled by The Boy, collided with an immovable object, necessitating an eventual evening in the ER that stretched into the way dark, so sorry I haven't replied sooner. That was followed up by my debit card being declined when I tried to buy us dinner in a drive-through; news comes in this morning that someone had managed to type in my wife's debit card number, created a new card, and went on a shopping spree that wiped out our regular account. Fraud services picked up on it, though, so all the money is being credited back tomorrow. It was an interesting day. Baby Girl is OK, though-- just a good bone bruise-- and so is the PDML account. You have heeded the call admirably, and my K20 is safe for the moment. Thank you all very much. I wish I could thank you all individually, but there's a really nice 500SL calling me... Just kidding. Thanks again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The State of The List
[...] Seriously, within minutes of posting my last reply to this thread, Baby Girl, propelled by The Boy, collided with an immovable object, necessitating an eventual evening in the ER that stretched into the way dark, so sorry I haven't replied sooner. That was followed up by my debit card being declined when I tried to buy us dinner in a drive-through; news comes in this morning that someone had managed to type in my wife's debit card number, created a new card, and went on a shopping spree that wiped out our regular account. Fraud services picked up on it, though, so all the money is being credited back tomorrow. It was an interesting day. A lot of people seem to have been struck by The Curse Of The PDML recently, but what comes around goes around (or is it the other way around?) - it's a PUNishment from the Gods of Mount Pentax (KA) for some collective sin, I think. Baby Girl is OK, though-- just a good bone bruise-- and so is the PDML Good to hear. account. You have heeded the call admirably, and my K20 is safe for the moment. Thank you all very much. I wish I could thank you all individually, but there's a really nice 500SL calling me... you can drive around to all our houses and thank us in person if you like...;o) Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs
From: mike wilson John Sessoms wrote: Semi-OT anyway ... I use these with my Pentax cameras. I've got a Quantum Battery 1+ that I think the battery is dead or discharged in storage until the battery is unrecoverable. It won't turn on, but the charging light all the power leds light up when the charger is plugged in. It takes a 6v 2.5ah sealed lead acid battery unit that looks like three D-cells soldered together and shrink wrapped. http://tinyurl.com/2epvegu Batteries Plus here in Raleigh can get the individual cells, connect them up and shrink wrap them to make a replacement. Probably cost around $30.00 ... replacement power pack is going to be at least $150 if I can even find one used. I don't think they make these any more. But I was wondering ... Is there any reason I can't replace that battery with a larger capacity Gel Cell if I can find one that will fit inside the case? If a 6v 4ah battery will fit in the case, could I safely use that in place of the the 6v 2.5ah battery. No warranty issues, these are OLD power packs. But I'd prefer not to burn up the circuitry. My understanding is that dry (ie gel, glass mat and all the other sorts) lead-acid cells require greater currents for charging than the plain vanilla version. You may want to do some serious research before taking the plunge. FWIW it seems likely that the cells would not charge if the circuitry was inadequate, rather than some damage being done to the electronics. Looking into it further, the existing battery is made up from 3-2V 2.5ah glass mat cells (sealed lead acid) series-ed together to make the 6V battery. They're the size of D-cell disposables, but have connection tabs on the top. http://www.enersysreservepower.com/scpf.asp?routine=scpf What you're saying is ... *IF* I substitute 3-2V 4.5ah cells it might not charge quite as efficiently, but the risk of actually damaging the charger is low? And a gel cell is just a different way of sealing the electrolyte into the battery, i.e. gelled rather than glass mat. They're both sealed lead acid batteries and have similar charging characteristics. Similar enough that the risk to the electronics is minimal? I understand that if I try this and it doesn't work, *I* am the one who is screwing it up. It may be moot, because as I research this, I'm not sure the higher amp-hour battery will fit in the case without modification. Plus, it just occurred to me that I haven't really ruled out the possibility the problem is a defective on/off switch. The back story is I picked up two of these Quantum battery packs about 2 years ago complete with wall warts adapters for the Vivitar 285 flash for about $50 apiece, and they've been sitting in my closet ever since because I didn't room to set up a studio. Now that I'm back in school, I'm going to be staying in an apartment during the week and I've got a large living/dining room combination with NO FURNITURE ... perfect for me to set up my light stands and all the other studio stuff I've been accumulating with no place to use. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Just donated money and glad to hear your disasters were resolved--sort of. Glad the K20 is safe. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:08 AM Subject: Re: The State of The List mike wilson wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice required. well, I did spot a nice late-'70's 500SL for sale when I was driving to GFM... Seriously, within minutes of posting my last reply to this thread, Baby Girl, propelled by The Boy, collided with an immovable object, necessitating an eventual evening in the ER that stretched into the way dark, so sorry I haven't replied sooner. That was followed up by my debit card being declined when I tried to buy us dinner in a drive-through; news comes in this morning that someone had managed to type in my wife's debit card number, created a new card, and went on a shopping spree that wiped out our regular account. Fraud services picked up on it, though, so all the money is being credited back tomorrow. It was an interesting day. Baby Girl is OK, though-- just a good bone bruise-- and so is the PDML account. You have heeded the call admirably, and my K20 is safe for the moment. Thank you all very much. I wish I could thank you all individually, but there's a really nice 500SL calling me... Just kidding. Thanks again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
-- From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: The State of The List Baby Girl is OK, though-- just a good bone bruise-- and so is the PDML account. You have heeded the call admirably, and my K20 is safe for the moment. Thank you all very much. I wish I could thank you all individually, but there's a really nice 500SL calling me... Just kidding. Don't ever hesitate to make this a regular thing. You shouldn't have to foot the bill for us louts. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
of the use of photography
a forgotten picture that brings back the past and do these boys looks sad ! http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2int_new=38596 dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Bill's right. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ever hesitate to make this a regular thing. You shouldn't have to foot the bill for us louts. William Robb -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
bizarre lightroom mystery
Hi Everyone: Back from the June Bloom in Southern California, though happy it was jacket weather. We visited a friend who is a lieutenant colonel in the marines--so it was like being on intense patrol for 6 days, march, march, up the hill, always on the move. Had a great, great time though; we saw some pretty vistas. Anyway, last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. Said unrendered DNG frames were--and are--safe on the two external hard drives which I work off of, and that's good, but gosh I can't figure out for the life of me what happened. Has anyone had something similar happen? Anyone have any ideas what might have happened? How could these frames just disappear after I had rendered and exported them? Good to be back--oh, and Igor, never got to the wild animal park or the sea food restaurant, but big thanks for the suggestions--mighty neighborly of you. Much appreciated. And I'm glad everyone had a great time at GFM. Looks like next year, 2011, the 10 year anniversary, might be a good time to go as well. Could be fun. Now back to the Lighroom conundrum . . . Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Boris is right about Bill being right. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: The State of The List Bill's right. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ever hesitate to make this a regular thing. You shouldn't have to foot the bill for us louts. William Robb -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Special Petnax lens offer
Har! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: Special Petnax lens offer Buy 2, get 2 free http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Glasses/slides/20100613-_IGP3530.html Or http://bit.ly/aYzopE Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RIP: John Hedgecoe
- Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: Re: RIP: John Hedgecoe On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:36 -0400, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/1653040/the-taught-world-photograph Sad. I still have a couple of his books. Although I don't refer to them often these days, they were constant companions when I was getting 'serious' about photography. I have Hedgecoe's book, Photographing People, which I love. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: bizarre lightroom mystery
[...] I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. You need to clarify a couple of things for me, because you're talking about frames you downloaded and frames you exported. What do you mean by downloaded? Do you mean the frames you imported into the catalogue? Next, when you say you can't find the frames you exported, do you mean you can't find the originals in the catalogue, or you can't find the jpegs themselves? Or both? You also say you couldn't find a lot of the frames, which suggests that you can find some of them. What is different about the missing ones? Can you spot any pattern? It sounds to me as though you've imported them successfully, but for some reason you've imported them to a different place than usual, or inadvertently changed the settings so that they're didn't copy them from the source media but left them in place, or perhaps you or the cat have inadvertently unknowingly deleted the collection they were in when you were editing them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Card reader question
My card reader in my tower is slow too. With SDHC, I'm in the market for a USB card reader, which I'll probably pick up with week. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: OT Card reader question My PC has a SD reader in it. Like most built-in readers it's convenient but rather much on the slow side. I use my Sandisk 12-in-1 reader instead. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: a slight diversion, but i think it's worth mentioning that some computers have card readers built-in, which may seem a small convenience, but if you use it enough it can be a major selling point; i certainly use the SD slot in my computer a lot -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: of the use of photography
a forgotten picture that brings back the past and do these boys looks sad ! http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2int_new=38596 dominique that's fascinating - thanks for posting it. It's a very powerful picture. This probably sounds a bit crass, but I had no idea slaves where so expensive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: RE: bizarre lightroom mystery [...] I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. You need to clarify a couple of things for me, because you're talking about frames you downloaded and frames you exported. What do you mean by downloaded? Do you mean the frames you imported into the catalogue? Sorry to be so confusing, Bob. Yes, I mean the frames I imported into the catalogue. Next, when you say you can't find the frames you exported, do you mean you can't find the originals in the catalogue, or you can't find the jpegs themselves? Or both? I mean I can't find the original frames I imported into the lightroom catalogue--they disappeared from the catalogue after I rendered and exported them as jpegs to my desktop. These missing frames that were rendered and exported as jpegs are still on my desktop. You also say you couldn't find a lot of the frames, which suggests that you can find some of them. What is different about the missing ones? Can you spot any pattern? The missing frames were more interesting to look at. :-) Other than that, I can't spot any pattern, which is weird to be sure. It sounds to me as though you've imported them successfully, but for some reason you've imported them to a different place than usual, or inadvertently changed the settings so that they're didn't copy them from the source media but left them in place, or perhaps you or the cat have inadvertently unknowingly deleted the collection they were in when you were editing them. Perhaps you're right, and I did something unknowingly; it's happened before. Still, I don't recall even thinking about deleting any of the frames from the four cards I downloaded. I delete much later in my workflow. I'm still looking and flagging and deciding. I have a feeling this might remain a mystery. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: of the use of photography
On 6/13/2010 12:31 PM, Bob W wrote:
a forgotten picture that brings back the past and do these boys looks
sad !
http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2int_new=38596
dominique
that's fascinating - thanks for posting it. It's a very powerful picture.
This probably sounds a bit crass, but I had no idea slaves where so
expensive.
It seems that way to me as well. When the prevailing wage was less than
1 dollar a day, the return on investment seems skewed. Then again Adam
Smith, proved that Slavery was uneconomical in The Wealth of Nations
almost 100 years earlier. (He argued it's immorality earlier in The
Theory of Moral Sentiments)
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Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops
Hi Brian: I prefer the original I like color best. Nice shot. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops G'day all On my recent trip to the north coast of New South Wales, I came across this track leading up to a coastal headland. I thought it would make an interesting image in the right light but I also thought it would be more interesting with someone walking along the track. Not having anyone handy to use as a model, I sat down beside the track, pre-focused on an appropriate point and waited After 15-20 minutes, this very attractive young lady walked by. She said Hello. I said G'day. She walked up the track and I grabbed this image. Here's several crops - I'm tending towards Crop 3 but it loses the patch of ocean on the left which, although small, gives the other crops a bit of context. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/NSW-Qld_May_2010/index.html What say you? Any other suggestions? The uncropped version is No:1 and the final image is a quick and dirty BW conversion to see if there's any potential there. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: bizarre lightroom mystery
Perhaps you're right, and I did something unknowingly; it's happened before. Still, I don't recall even thinking about deleting any of the frames from the four cards I downloaded. I delete much later in my workflow. I'm still looking and flagging and deciding. I have a feeling this might remain a mystery. Cheers, Christine it's something that is probably worth pursuing to see if there's a bug in your workflow. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
Christine - I think what you are saying is that you have some DNGs that you have edited and saved as JPGs, and that you now have a DNG and a JPG with the same name. If that is true, Lightroom acts like the JPG isn't there and only shows you the raw file. I'm not sure of the details of file handling. But I am listening to the Lightroom course on Kelby training and remember the instructor making that statement. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: Back from the June Bloom in Southern California, though happy it was jacket weather. We visited a friend who is a lieutenant colonel in the marines--so it was like being on intense patrol for 6 days, march, march, up the hill, always on the move. Had a great, great time though; we saw some pretty vistas. Anyway, last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. Said unrendered DNG frames were--and are--safe on the two external hard drives which I work off of, and that's good, but gosh I can't figure out for the life of me what happened. Has anyone had something similar happen? Anyone have any ideas what might have happened? How could these frames just disappear after I had rendered and exported them? Good to be back--oh, and Igor, never got to the wild animal park or the sea food restaurant, but big thanks for the suggestions--mighty neighborly of you. Much appreciated. And I'm glad everyone had a great time at GFM. Looks like next year, 2011, the 10 year anniversary, might be a good time to go as well. Could be fun. Now back to the Lighroom conundrum . . . Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
On 6/13/2010 5:06 AM, Carlos R wrote: Ditto mike wilson escribió: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice required. Likewise on all counts. Otis Wright -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
If I did not have the PDML to waste my time on, I';d have to go and get a real job again. Nope Dave On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Otis Wright rustyk...@verizon.net wrote: On 6/13/2010 5:06 AM, Carlos R wrote: Ditto mike wilson escribió: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice required. Likewise on all counts. Otis Wright -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
Thats why i shoot Raw + Jpeg. No help, but i thought i'd just say.;-) Dave On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:35 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Christine - I think what you are saying is that you have some DNGs that you have edited and saved as JPGs, and that you now have a DNG and a JPG with the same name. If that is true, Lightroom acts like the JPG isn't there and only shows you the raw file. I'm not sure of the details of file handling. But I am listening to the Lightroom course on Kelby training and remember the instructor making that statement. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: Back from the June Bloom in Southern California, though happy it was jacket weather. We visited a friend who is a lieutenant colonel in the marines--so it was like being on intense patrol for 6 days, march, march, up the hill, always on the move. Had a great, great time though; we saw some pretty vistas. Anyway, last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. Said unrendered DNG frames were--and are--safe on the two external hard drives which I work off of, and that's good, but gosh I can't figure out for the life of me what happened. Has anyone had something similar happen? Anyone have any ideas what might have happened? How could these frames just disappear after I had rendered and exported them? Good to be back--oh, and Igor, never got to the wild animal park or the sea food restaurant, but big thanks for the suggestions--mighty neighborly of you. Much appreciated. And I'm glad everyone had a great time at GFM. Looks like next year, 2011, the 10 year anniversary, might be a good time to go as well. Could be fun. Now back to the Lighroom conundrum . . . Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. How do you know her name is Stella.?? She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. Glad you did, nice shot. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 Arg.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
LOL..A male hummer in a torn T-shirt was yelling her name. How do you think? ;-D Thanks, Dave! Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 11:43 AM On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. How do you know her name is Stella.?? She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. Glad you did, nice shot. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 Arg.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Flightly little bird, I never see them on branches. Well not that
particular bird or variety for that matter...
What lens?
On 6/13/2010 1:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a
Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope.
She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before
settling on a twig as shown.
Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now
brought up PDML mail was moved to share it.
They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary
time.
Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're
now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave.
Just for fun..of course.
Jack
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519
K20, DA55~300
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Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
Christine, Try importing a new file. Open the dialogue box and check where it is putting the new imports. I had similar problems when Lightroom (or Bob?!?) started nesting new files underneath an older directory. It took me a while to recognize it, and then I had to un-nest the directories. (I've been putting all my exports in a directory Export2010 - works great for finding them.) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: RE: bizarre lightroom mystery [...] I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. You need to clarify a couple of things for me, because you're talking about frames you downloaded and frames you exported. What do you mean by downloaded? Do you mean the frames you imported into the catalogue? Sorry to be so confusing, Bob. Yes, I mean the frames I imported into the catalogue. Next, when you say you can't find the frames you exported, do you mean you can't find the originals in the catalogue, or you can't find the jpegs themselves? Or both? I mean I can't find the original frames I imported into the lightroom catalogue--they disappeared from the catalogue after I rendered and exported them as jpegs to my desktop. These missing frames that were rendered and exported as jpegs are still on my desktop. You also say you couldn't find a lot of the frames, which suggests that you can find some of them. What is different about the missing ones? Can you spot any pattern? The missing frames were more interesting to look at. :-) Other than that, I can't spot any pattern, which is weird to be sure. It sounds to me as though you've imported them successfully, but for some reason you've imported them to a different place than usual, or inadvertently changed the settings so that they're didn't copy them from the source media but left them in place, or perhaps you or the cat have inadvertently unknowingly deleted the collection they were in when you were editing them. Perhaps you're right, and I did something unknowingly; it's happened before. Still, I don't recall even thinking about deleting any of the frames from the four cards I downloaded. I delete much later in my workflow. I'm still looking and flagging and deciding. I have a feeling this might remain a mystery. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Jack, Excellent image of an elusive subject. I especially appreciate the feathers on the front. Great details! We put out a feeder and had hummers within an hour. A local at the garden center complained when she heard that. She had been trying for a few weeks with no success. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Excellent shot. You're really getting a lot of great work with that 55-300. Superb. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Those hummers move quite a bit. If you watch close, they do come back to the same places quite often. So catching one still, is an exercise in patience. Still, they are very small - need as much magnification as you can. Nice shot, Jack! This is one case where the lens in question did not surprise me as to image quality - it is good, but not as crisp as the costly glass. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:46:11 AM, you wrote: JD I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden JD was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. JD She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two JD before settling on a twig as shown. JD Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as JD I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. JD They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. JD Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few JD days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air JD conditioner is difficult to leave. JD Just for fun..of course. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 JD K20, DA55~300 JD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: The State of The List [...] Seriously, within minutes of posting my last reply to this thread, Baby Girl, propelled by The Boy, collided with an immovable object, necessitating an eventual evening in the ER that stretched into the way dark, so sorry I haven't replied sooner. That was followed up by my debit card being declined when I tried to buy us dinner in a drive-through; news comes in this morning that someone had managed to type in my wife's debit card number, created a new card, and went on a shopping spree that wiped out our regular account. Fraud services picked up on it, though, so all the money is being credited back tomorrow. It was an interesting day. A lot of people seem to have been struck by The Curse Of The PDML recently, but what comes around goes around (or is it the other way around?) - it's a PUNishment from the Gods of Mount Pentax (KA) for some collective sin, I think. Probably because of the elimination of the aperature similator. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory card image recovery programs
Were the images overwritten or deleted? My understanding is if they have been over written they can't be recovered. Could be wrong but that's what I recall. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:39 AM Subject: Re: Memory card image recovery programs On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:36:53 -0700 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I did something stupd last night and overwrote some files when copying them off an SD card. I knew that using mv rather than cp was a bad idea, but I discovered a failure mode that I hadn't thought of before. Any recommendations for a program to recover erased files off an sd card for either mac or linux? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Wait? Both Boris and Bill are both right? At the same time? It's the
end of the world!
On 6/13/2010 12:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Boris is right about Bill being right. Cheers, Christine
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
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Bill's right.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't ever hesitate to make this a regular thing. You shouldn't have
to foot
the bill for us louts.
William Robb
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PAW23 - Doll in Strasbourg
I just came home from a trip, and found this in my memory card: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, DA70mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 The previous PAWs are here: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory card image recovery programs
Cards are pseudo FAT formatted, and due to their design constraints the
way riles get erased, (or for that matter the card gets formatted),
unless you go to extraordinary lengths only the directory structure is
changed by either of those operations. The only way the data will be
over written is if more photos are taken, or new directories are created.
On 6/13/2010 4:38 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Were the images overwritten or deleted?
My understanding is if they have been over written they can't be
recovered. Could be wrong but that's what I recall.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: Bran Everseeking
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Memory card image recovery programs
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:36:53 -0700
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I did something stupd last night and overwrote some files when
copying them off an SD card.
I knew that using mv rather than cp was a bad idea, but I discovered
a failure mode that I hadn't thought of before.
Any recommendations for a program to recover erased files off an sd
card for either mac or linux?
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RE: The State of The List
Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Dario I pay about the same as you for mine, but all it provides is the domain, enough storage for a small website with no database, and some email accounts. Operating a mailing list and archive is a bigger prospect, so I would expect it to cost more. $600- does seem like a lot, but it's a subject I've never looked into so I don't know how it stacks up against the competition. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW23 - Doll in Strasbourg
Le 13/06/10 22:47, DagT a écrit : I just came home from a trip, and found this in my memory card: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, DA70mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 The previous PAWs are here: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html DagT fun picture . haven't seen that in Paris ... yet ! .. dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops
same opinion as Christine : Uncropped is best ... dominique Le 13/06/10 19:14, Christine Aguila a écrit : Hi Brian: I prefer the original I like color best. Nice shot. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops G'day all On my recent trip to the north coast of New South Wales, I came across this track leading up to a coastal headland. I thought it would make an interesting image in the right light but I also thought it would be more interesting with someone walking along the track. Not having anyone handy to use as a model, I sat down beside the track, pre-focused on an appropriate point and waited After 15-20 minutes, this very attractive young lady walked by. She said Hello. I said G'day. She walked up the track and I grabbed this image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory card image recovery programs
Kenneth Waller
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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Memory card image recovery programs
Cards are pseudo FAT formatted, and due to their design constraints the
way riles get erased, (or for that matter the card gets formatted), unless
you go to extraordinary lengths only the directory structure is changed by
either of those operations. The only way the data will be over written is
if more photos are taken, or new directories are created.
That's what Larry said overwrote - I took that to mean new images were
added.
On 6/13/2010 4:38 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Were the images overwritten or deleted?
My understanding is if they have been over written they can't be
recovered. Could be wrong but that's what I recall.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: Bran Everseeking
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Memory card image recovery programs
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:36:53 -0700
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I did something stupd last night and overwrote some files when
copying them off an SD card.
I knew that using mv rather than cp was a bad idea, but I discovered
a failure mode that I hadn't thought of before.
Any recommendations for a program to recover erased files off an sd
card for either mac or linux?
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Re: OT: Replacing cells in Battery Packs
John Sessoms wrote: From: mike wilson My understanding is that dry (ie gel, glass mat and all the other sorts) lead-acid cells require greater currents for charging than the plain vanilla version. You may want to do some serious research before taking the plunge. FWIW it seems likely that the cells would not charge if the circuitry was inadequate, rather than some damage being done to the electronics. Looking into it further, the existing battery is made up from 3-2V 2.5ah glass mat cells (sealed lead acid) series-ed together to make the 6V battery. They're the size of D-cell disposables, but have connection tabs on the top. http://www.enersysreservepower.com/scpf.asp?routine=scpf What you're saying is ... *IF* I substitute 3-2V 4.5ah cells it might not charge quite as efficiently, but the risk of actually damaging the charger is low? And a gel cell is just a different way of sealing the electrolyte into the battery, i.e. gelled rather than glass mat. They're both sealed lead acid batteries and have similar charging characteristics. Similar enough that the risk to the electronics is minimal? I understand that if I try this and it doesn't work, *I* am the one who is screwing it up. Again _my understanding_ is that, because of the construction, these types of batteries _require_ a higher current to initiate charging, so they wouldn't charge at all if an ordinary charger was used. At least, that's what the companies that produce chargers for them say. But all of my knowledge applies to batteries that are for motor vehicles and produce a lot more power than the ones you are using. They certainly could not be charged by wall warts. Generally, wall warts are such simple devices that they could indeed be damaged by an excessive current requirement although the low cost of replacement would not make this too much of a problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: of the use of photography
-- From: Bob W Subject: RE: of the use of photography This probably sounds a bit crass, but I had no idea slaves where so expensive. I suspect they would have been a depreciating asset, worth more younger than older. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
-- From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: The State of The List Bill's right. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
DA55~300. I keep it on whenever I'm sitting on the patio due to the possible
bird activity on the feeder and in the flower garden.
Jack
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Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:53 PM
Flightly little bird, I never see
them on branches. Well not that
particular bird or variety for that matter...
What lens?
On 6/13/2010 1:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the
nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a
Stellula calliope.
She (according to my field guide?) checked out a
blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown.
Am currently using a version of this image as my
wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved
to share it.
They are much easier to photograph when resting, even
for however a momentary time.
Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests
for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F
weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave.
Just for fun..of course.
Jack
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519
K20, DA55~300
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Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Appreciated comments, Bob! Have done some casual trap focus, but with sorry image results. Thankfully, it's not a compulsion. :) Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:12 PM Jack, Excellent image of an elusive subject. I especially appreciate the feathers on the front. Great details! We put out a feeder and had hummers within an hour. A local at the garden center complained when she heard that. She had been trying for a few weeks with no success. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Bob W wrote: Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Dario I pay about the same as you for mine, but all it provides is the domain, enough storage for a small website with no database, and some email accounts. Operating a mailing list and archive is a bigger prospect, so I would expect it to cost more. $600- does seem like a lot, but it's a subject I've never looked into so I don't know how it stacks up against the competition. I'm on about £40 per annum from here: http://www.easyspace.com/web_hosting/pic_n_mix -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO summer shower
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Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Thanks, Paul. It gives me images that encourage my having it on one camera or the other whenever hunting. Fairly competent. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:13 PM Excellent shot. You're really getting a lot of great work with that 55-300. Superb. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown. Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave. Just for fun..of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 K20, DA55~300 --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Thanks, Bruce! You must be patient and not fret if you miss constantly. Also, not REALLY caring all that much helps. ;) Lens test competence and sample variations aside, it has tested considerably better than the DA* 300 f/4. As I believe I mentioned in an earlier post, not being internal focusing and being so light makes it truly extremely difficult to hand hold and expect consistent results. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:17 PM Those hummers move quite a bit. If you watch close, they do come back to the same places quite often. So catching one still, is an exercise in patience. Still, they are very small - need as much magnification as you can. Nice shot, Jack! This is one case where the lens in question did not surprise me as to image quality - it is good, but not as crisp as the costly glass. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:46:11 AM, you wrote: JD I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden JD was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. JD She (according to my field guide?) checked out a blossom or two JD before settling on a twig as shown. JD Am currently using a version of this image as my wallpaper and as JD I just now brought up PDML mail was moved to share it. JD They are much easier to photograph when resting, even for however a momentary time. JD Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests for a few JD days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F weather. Air JD conditioner is difficult to leave. JD Just for fun..of course. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519 JD K20, DA55~300 JD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO summer shower
Very nice, Paul! Artfully composed. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO summer shower To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 2:56 PM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11129412size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
2010/6/13 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Sounds way too much in my book. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW23 - Doll in Strasbourg
A curious surprise. ;) Crisp catch. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: From: DagT li...@thrane.name Subject: PAW23 - Doll in Strasbourg To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:47 PM I just came home from a trip, and found this in my memory card: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, DA70mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 The previous PAWs are here: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: of the use of photography
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:52 +0200, Madame RD romd...@orange.fr wrote: a forgotten picture that brings back the past and do these boys looks sad ! http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2int_new=38596 Yes -it's important that these sorts of images be saved. It could so easily have been thrown out. I don't know anything about Lincoln Images (other than they collect and sell images of Abraham Lincoln) but I hope the image eventually finds its way into an appropriate museum (the National Museum of American History?). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO summer shower
Thanks Jack. On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Very nice, Paul! Artfully composed. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO summer shower To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 2:56 PM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11129412size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
From what I've read, it's not doable. Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant. It's flaky, but usable. After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the File | Auto Import. I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try Remote Assistant and Auto Import. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. I suggest that you post a regular notice - once a year? - that the PDML Annual Subscription is due. Few of us are spending on film anymore so we have all of that money piling up from the unrealized expense. We can and should help out with financial support for the PDML. stan On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Boris is right about Bill being right. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: The State of The List Bill's right. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ever hesitate to make this a regular thing. You shouldn't have to foot the bill for us louts. William Robb -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
2010/6/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/13 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Sounds way too much in my book. Perhaps I should elaborate. Today, to host a mailing list plus archive, you need next to nothing - the domain is entered in the local domain list of a mail server which need not be dedicated, typically large providers will use open source servers for this so there is no license cost, the same goes for an archive - since all mails are text only with no attachments the archive grows very slowly. In fact anyone can test that by using a free webmail account with storage indication such as googlemail or hotmail to receive pdml mails and then look after a month how much space was used; I doubt it will be more than a bunch of megabytes, definitely under 50, so storage cost is almost negligeable. backup my cost some but again it will be a backup of something on an existing server so we're talking cost sharing. If you order a dedicated server, you get a private virtual machine these days and nothing more than that. That would in imo be the only scenario in which 50 bucks a month would sound about right. Yours to fill in the details, Doug. Personally, I pay € 40 a month for a fixed IP, one domain, unlimited web and mail traffic, unlimited content plus DSL and ISDN flat rates and provider land line to provider cell phone flat. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The State of The List
I'm in John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: Sunday, 13 June 2010 2:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: The State of The List As most of you know, I am soon to celebrate one year since I got laid off from my less-than-lucrative but still gainful employment. Returning to school has been fun, and I've shot a few gigs here and there, but the blow to my income has been catastrophic. I could type for a while on this subject, but I'll skip that and just say that the PDML account is pretty much toast. My K20 is going on ebay sometime this weekend to get some more operating funds for a while, but I'm running out of things to sell and still stay in the photo game. Understand how sad and awkward this is for me; I've considered my underwriting the PDML my main contribution to the community, and a point of pride. Those of you who have met me know that neither pride nor dignity play a big part in my life, so you can imagine how important that particular point is. I've considered a number of scenarios, from a community print sale to raise funds, to just handing it over to someone who can afford to keep it going, to joining the 21st century and going to a web-based thing, but that would still have to take into consideration the bandwidth costs, which are the bulk of the out-go. I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. This way I can avoid a straight out begging posture but still give you all the opportunity to take part in the continued life of this, the premier Pentax-related source on the Net. If any of you have any questions or suggestions, please contact me or just throw something out for everyone to discuss. Thank you, Doug Brewer PDML List Guy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:51 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/6/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/13 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Sounds way too much in my book. Perhaps I should elaborate. Today, to host a mailing list plus archive, you need next to nothing - the domain is entered in the local domain list of a mail server which need not be dedicated, typically large providers will use open source servers for this so there is no license cost, the same goes for an archive - since all mails are text only with no attachments the archive grows very slowly. In fact anyone can test that by using a free webmail account with storage indication such as googlemail or hotmail to receive pdml mails and then look after a month how much space was used; I doubt it will be more than a bunch of megabytes, definitely under 50, so storage cost is almost negligeable. backup my cost some but again it will be a backup of something on an existing server so we're talking cost sharing. If you order a dedicated server, you get a private virtual machine these days and nothing more than that. That would in imo be the only scenario in which 50 bucks a month would sound about right. Yours to fill in the details, Doug. Personally, I pay € 40 a month for a fixed IP, one domain, unlimited web and mail traffic, unlimited content plus DSL and ISDN flat rates and provider land line to provider cell phone flat. Cheers Ecke -- I suppose it's possible that the list could be maintained at lower cost. However, Doug isn't a programmer or IT guy -- as far as I know -- and may not share your expertise. I suggest that if you are concerned about cost, you shold help him set up a more efficient system. That being said, I think we still should contribute an annual amount for list maintenance. If there's surplus that will at least provide some compensation for the mount of time Doug spends on maintenance and resolution of little problems. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:08 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:51 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/6/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/13 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Sounds way too much in my book. Perhaps I should elaborate. Today, to host a mailing list plus archive, you need next to nothing - the domain is entered in the local domain list of a mail server which need not be dedicated, typically large providers will use open source servers for this so there is no license cost, the same goes for an archive - since all mails are text only with no attachments the archive grows very slowly. In fact anyone can test that by using a free webmail account with storage indication such as googlemail or hotmail to receive pdml mails and then look after a month how much space was used; I doubt it will be more than a bunch of megabytes, definitely under 50, so storage cost is almost negligeable. backup my cost some but again it will be a backup of something on an existing server so we're talking cost sharing. If you order a dedicated server, you get a private virtual machine these days and nothing more than that. That would in imo be the only scenario in which 50 bucks a month would sound about right. Yours to fill in the details, Doug. Personally, I pay € 40 a month for a fixed IP, one domain, unlimited web and mail traffic, unlimited content plus DSL and ISDN flat rates and provider land line to provider cell phone flat. Cheers Ecke -- I suppose it's possible that the list could be maintained at lower cost. However, Doug isn't a programmer or IT guy -- as far as I know -- and may not share your expertise. I suggest that if you are concerned about cost, you shold help him set up a more efficient system. That being said, I think we still should contribute an annual amount for list maintenance. If there's surplus that will at least provide some compensation for the mount of time Doug spends on maintenance and resolution of little problems. Paul Doh. Gotta proofread. That should say: If there's a surplus that will at least proved some compensation for the amount of time Doug spends on maintenance and the resolution of little problems. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
Hmmm. I have cr Kennedy looking into it. I reaaally need it to demonstrate at the workshops I'm teaching. I was hoping that one of you guys would be able to share a hacked way around it - Mark, can u add to this discussion? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 9:36 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've read, it's not doable. Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant. It's flaky, but usable. After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the File | Auto Import. I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try Remote Assistant and Auto Import. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Stan Halpin wrote: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. I suggest that you post a regular notice - once a year? - that the PDML Annual Subscription is due. Few of us are spending on film anymore so we have all of that money piling up from the unrealized expense. We can and should help out with financial support for the PDML. stan Just did... keith :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
FWIW, I've found tethered shooting to be relatively useless. It just slows things down. And the histogram is more accurate than any image. I played with it for a while but haven't used it in a couple of years. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Hmmm. I have cr Kennedy looking into it. I reaaally need it to demonstrate at the workshops I'm teaching. I was hoping that one of you guys would be able to share a hacked way around it - Mark, can u add to this discussion? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 9:36 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've read, it's not doable. Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant. It's flaky, but usable. After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the File | Auto Import. I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try Remote Assistant and Auto Import. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
Paul I wouldn't use it for standard shooting - but I am teaching to audiences of 50-100 so it would be a great advantage to be able to demonstrate and project the results on a big screen - particularly as it is product photography that I am showing, iykwim? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 10:34 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: FWIW, I've found tethered shooting to be relatively useless. It just slows things down. And the histogram is more accurate than any image. I played with it for a while but haven't used it in a couple of years. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Hmmm. I have cr Kennedy looking into it. I reaaally need it to demonstrate at the workshops I'm teaching. I was hoping that one of you guys would be able to share a hacked way around it - Mark, can u add to this discussion? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 9:36 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've read, it's not doable. Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant. It's flaky, but usable. After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the File | Auto Import. I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try Remote Assistant and Auto Import. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The State of The List
Paul, I'm behind what you are saying 100%. Ecke or Dario, if you have cheaper ideas then lay them out for us. But don't forget you have 2-400 pdml subscribers, a digest, and lots of message traffic (200+ messages a day). Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:08 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:51 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/6/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/13 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Just done too, as keeping both Doug and the list safe is a must. Then, I like so much the mailing list method, instead of a forum and having to log in, hence my only requirement is to keep the mailing list stuff going. This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here. What do the IT folks have to say? Sounds way too much in my book. Perhaps I should elaborate. Today, to host a mailing list plus archive, you need next to nothing - the domain is entered in the local domain list of a mail server which need not be dedicated, typically large providers will use open source servers for this so there is no license cost, the same goes for an archive - since all mails are text only with no attachments the archive grows very slowly. In fact anyone can test that by using a free webmail account with storage indication such as googlemail or hotmail to receive pdml mails and then look after a month how much space was used; I doubt it will be more than a bunch of megabytes, definitely under 50, so storage cost is almost negligeable. backup my cost some but again it will be a backup of something on an existing server so we're talking cost sharing. If you order a dedicated server, you get a private virtual machine these days and nothing more than that. That would in imo be the only scenario in which 50 bucks a month would sound about right. Yours to fill in the details, Doug. Personally, I pay € 40 a month for a fixed IP, one domain, unlimited web and mail traffic, unlimited content plus DSL and ISDN flat rates and provider land line to provider cell phone flat. Cheers Ecke -- I suppose it's possible that the list could be maintained at lower cost. However, Doug isn't a programmer or IT guy -- as far as I know -- and may not share your expertise. I suggest that if you are concerned about cost, you shold help him set up a more efficient system. That being said, I think we still should contribute an annual amount for list maintenance. If there's surplus that will at least provide some compensation for the mount of time Doug spends on maintenance and resolution of little problems. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
Yeah, it would be helpful under those circumstances. I haven't tried it with my K7, so I can't help you there.. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Paul I wouldn't use it for standard shooting - but I am teaching to audiences of 50-100 so it would be a great advantage to be able to demonstrate and project the results on a big screen - particularly as it is product photography that I am showing, iykwim? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 10:34 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: FWIW, I've found tethered shooting to be relatively useless. It just slows things down. And the histogram is more accurate than any image. I played with it for a while but haven't used it in a couple of years. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Hmmm. I have cr Kennedy looking into it. I reaaally need it to demonstrate at the workshops I'm teaching. I was hoping that one of you guys would be able to share a hacked way around it - Mark, can u add to this discussion? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 9:36 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've read, it's not doable. Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant. It's flaky, but usable. After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the File | Auto Import. I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try Remote Assistant and Auto Import. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memory card image recovery programs
Using mv (move) instead of cp (copy) shouldn't overwrite any files on
the card, unless you're moving files /to/ the card. It should simply
replace the first character in the directory entry with a character the
system recognizes fempty (I used to know that code, I could probably
look it up), and marks the space the file exists in used as Free in the
FAT. Move doesn't erase anything, it just updates the FAT, I assume mv,
does the same thing. I'm going by his description.
On 6/13/2010 5:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Memory card image recovery programs
Cards are pseudo FAT formatted, and due to their design constraints
the way riles get erased, (or for that matter the card gets
formatted), unless you go to extraordinary lengths only the directory
structure is changed by either of those operations. The only way the
data will be over written is if more photos are taken, or new
directories are created.
That's what Larry said overwrote - I took that to mean new images
were added.
On 6/13/2010 4:38 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Were the images overwritten or deleted?
My understanding is if they have been over written they can't be
recovered. Could be wrong but that's what I recall.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Memory card image recovery programs
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:36:53 -0700
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I did something stupd last night and overwrote some files when
copying them off an SD card.
I knew that using mv rather than cp was a bad idea, but I discovered
a failure mode that I hadn't thought of before.
Any recommendations for a program to recover erased files off an sd
card for either mac or linux?
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Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
On 6/13/2010 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hey guys,
I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot
tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7?
I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it!
Tan.x.
Pentax hath decreed Ye K7 shall not be tethered! and, It was so!
Ok the *ist-D has the code in it's firmware for tethered operation, the
*ist-Ds pretty much used the same firmware, tethered operation seems to
work fine even though it's not officially supported. I expect that the
K100/200 will work tethered with the same software that the K10/20 use.
However the K-7 firmware is a complete re-write, there was no Pentax
Camera Assistant released for the K-7 and no higher level model that
supported tethered operation. Most likely the firmware doesn't support it.
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Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
Tethered operation of the K20D would work nicely if it tied directly
into Live View. Unfortunatly it doesn't seem to do that. (Maybe it
does it you set up Live View as your default action on the DOF preview,
but I never use it that way). I think that's the way it works with
higher end Canon and Nikon models, but I could be wrong about that.
On 6/13/2010 8:34 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
FWIW, I've found tethered shooting to be relatively useless. It just slows
things down. And the histogram is more accurate than any image. I played with
it for a while but haven't used it in a couple of years.
Paul
On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
Hmmm. I have cr Kennedy looking into it. I reaaally need it to demonstrate at
the workshops I'm teaching.
I was hoping that one of you guys would be able to share a hacked way around it
- Mark, can u add to this discussion?
Tan.
Sent from my iPhone
On 14/06/2010, at 9:36 AM, David Parsonsparsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
From what I've read, it's not doable.
Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote
control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and
see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS
isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant.
It's flaky, but usable.
After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the
File | Auto Import.
I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't
recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes
your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try
Remote Assistant and Auto Import.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM,tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hey guys,
I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot
tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7?
I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it!
Tan.x.
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Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
Damn, I just sent my A*300 out for repair. Results like this might make
me rethink my long lens strategy, except that I'm exceptionally stubborn.
On 6/13/2010 5:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
DA55~300. I keep it on whenever I'm sitting on the patio due to the possible
bird activity on the feeder and in the flower garden.
Jack
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Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:53 PM
Flightly little bird, I never see
them on branches. Well not that
particular bird or variety for that matter...
What lens?
On 6/13/2010 1:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the
nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a
Stellula calliope.
She (according to my field guide?) checked out a
blossom or two before settling on a twig as shown.
Am currently using a version of this image as my
wallpaper and as I just now brought up PDML mail was moved
to share it.
They are much easier to photograph when resting, even
for however a momentary time.
Haven't been shooting much lately. Had house guests
for a few days and we're now experiencing 'prox 100F
weather. Air conditioner is difficult to leave.
Just for fun..of course.
Jack
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=519
K20, DA55~300
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Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3
Have you considered one of the wifi memory cards? Seems like that might accomplish what you are wanting to do. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:17:45 PM, you wrote: ps Yeah, it would be helpful under those circumstances. I haven't ps tried it with my K7, so I can't help you there.. ps Paul ps On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Paul I wouldn't use it for standard shooting - but I am teaching to audiences of 50-100 so it would be a great advantage to be able to demonstrate and project the results on a big screen - particularly as it is product photography that I am showing, iykwim? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 10:34 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: FWIW, I've found tethered shooting to be relatively useless. It just slows things down. And the histogram is more accurate than any image. I played with it for a while but haven't used it in a couple of years. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Hmmm. I have cr Kennedy looking into it. I reaaally need it to demonstrate at the workshops I'm teaching. I was hoping that one of you guys would be able to share a hacked way around it - Mark, can u add to this discussion? Tan. Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2010, at 9:36 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've read, it's not doable. Supposedly, Pentax removed the capability for the K7 to use remote control software. You can try downloading Pentax Remote Assistant and see if you can get one of the versions to work with it (The K100DS isn't supported, but I can get it to work with V1 of Remote Assistant. It's flaky, but usable. After that, you tell LR where to look for the files by going to the File | Auto Import. I tried using LR with the Tethered Capture option, but it doesn't recognize my camera. Try it out with your camera. If LR recognizes your camera, you should be good to go. If not, you'll need to try Remote Assistant and Auto Import. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question for you tech heads. Has anyone worked out how to shoot tethered yet with Lightroom and the K7? I KNOW that one of you hacks have worked out how to do it! Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
