Re: PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS AT BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Alan C

Only because you knew where it was.

Alan C

On 12-Oct-18 06:53 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

On 12 October 2018 at 15:00 Alan C  wrote:


Yes, I agree. Here's the re-work.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31386252368/


Yes - better, although I can make out where it was.


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Re: PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS AT BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Brian Walters


> On 12 October 2018 at 15:00 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, I agree. Here's the re-work.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31386252368/


Yes - better, although I can make out where it was.


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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread Brian Walters
> On 12 October 2018 at 14:45 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have one. Game on.

Well, that's you and Mike.  A couple more and it's in!

:-)


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> 
> On 10/11/2018 22:51, John wrote:
> > Challenge provisionally accepted.
> > 
> > On 10/11/2018 18:56, Brian Walters wrote:
> >> OK, John, if I include 'Sonorous Interiors' I'll be expecting a submission
> >> from
> >> you
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Brian
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Re: PPG - Maybe it has a future after all

2018-10-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I think a lot of us are still her, but just resting, after all, 
Ricoh/Pentax doesn't have the release schedule of Sony, Canon, Nikon or 
even Panasonic, so talking about hardware is kind of redundant, after 
all how much navel gazing can one do about cameras that only change 
every 2 years.


Hell it's not like Sony throwing spaghetti at the wall with three 
different versions of the same camera with release dates only a few 
months, at most apart, or Canon bringing out a new entry model every 6 
months or so, with often only minor changes from the previous version, 
pushing the previous model down a step until it somewhere falls off 
Canon's current list.


On the other hand, if you want to navel gaze about once and future 
cameras there's always the Pentax Fora.


Some of us would contribute more if someone hadn't already beaten us to 
the punch, after all what else can you say to a great or merely good 
photo when someone else has already expressed, more or less, your 
thoughts except, me too.   That gets old after a while, even for the poster.


Everyone here is too accomplished to post any photograph that's really 
bad here, except maybe for me, and usually I've been drinking.



On 10/10/2018 7:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is hopeful news.

Does the PDML have a future?  It seems there are fewer participants each
month.

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:53 PM Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day all

I just noticed this on DP Review:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61777199

So, maybe.


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Re: PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS AT BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Alan C

Yes, I agree. Here's the re-work.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31386252368/

I'm still waiting for AnnSan, Igor & Jack to post. Hopefully they won't 
be blocked on g-mail.


Alan C



On 12-Oct-18 01:00 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

See from both addresses.

Very colourful scene - would have been a bit better if that pole behind the
drummer wasn't there.


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On 11 October 2018 at 22:27 Alan Cole  wrote:


  I have posted this PESO to try and sort out my e-mail difficulties.

I have also created a g-mail account & sent it from there too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/30304500027/

K110D & F 35-105

If you would like to know about Bourke's luck, go here:

https://www.wheretostay.co.za/topic/3772-bourkes-luck-potholes

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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread John

I have one. Game on.

On 10/11/2018 22:51, John wrote:

Challenge provisionally accepted.

On 10/11/2018 18:56, Brian Walters wrote:

OK, John, if I include 'Sonorous Interiors' I'll be expecting a submission from
you


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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread John

Challenge provisionally accepted.

On 10/11/2018 18:56, Brian Walters wrote:

OK, John, if I include 'Sonorous Interiors' I'll be expecting a submission from
you


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On 12 October 2018 at 03:48 John  wrote:

On 10/7/2018 06:11, mike wilson wrote:

On 07 October 2018 at 00:42 Brian Walters  wrote:


On 07 October 2018 at 01:18 Henk Terhell  wrote:

That sounds like a PUG of 2 submissions:)


Yeah - that's my feeling as well.


I never thought of this place as being of limited imagination.


Sonorous just means giving out or capable of giving out a sound, especially a
deep, resonant sound, as a thing or place:

A photo of the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia would fit & doesn't someone from
the
list live in Philadelphia? Maybe the inside of a basketball arena. Those get
pretty "sonorous" when the home team scores.




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Re: PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS AT BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Brian Walters
See from both addresses.

Very colourful scene - would have been a bit better if that pole behind the
drummer wasn't there.


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> On 11 October 2018 at 22:27 Alan Cole  wrote:
> 
> 
>  I have posted this PESO to try and sort out my e-mail difficulties.
> 
> I have also created a g-mail account & sent it from there too.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/30304500027/
> 
> K110D & F 35-105
> 
> If you would like to know about Bourke's luck, go here:
> 
> https://www.wheretostay.co.za/topic/3772-bourkes-luck-potholes
> 
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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread Brian Walters
OK, John, if I include 'Sonorous Interiors' I'll be expecting a submission from
you


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On 12 October 2018 at 03:48 John  wrote:

On 10/7/2018 06:11, mike wilson wrote:
> > On 07 October 2018 at 00:42 Brian Walters  wrote:
> > 
> > > On 07 October 2018 at 01:18 Henk Terhell  wrote:
> > > 
> > > That sounds like a PUG of 2 submissions:)
> > 
> > Yeah - that's my feeling as well.
> 
> I never thought of this place as being of limited imagination.

Sonorous just means giving out or capable of giving out a sound, especially a 
deep, resonant sound, as a thing or place:

A photo of the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia would fit & doesn't someone from
the 
list live in Philadelphia? Maybe the inside of a basketball arena. Those get 
pretty "sonorous" when the home team scores.

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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread Brian Walters
> On 12 October 2018 at 03:58 Bill  wrote:
\
> 
> Brian, when I was maintaining the PUG, I found that I had to be quite 
> the cheerleader as well. I had the (perhaps dubious) advantage of having 
> to hand code the gallery every month, and so I had a lot of volunteers 
> helping with that. IIRC, I had a crew of half a dozen page coders at one 
> time, which also gave a bit more traffic to the list, keeping the PUG 
> closer to the front of people's minds.
> 
> Personally, I think simpler themes are better.

So do I but I'm sorely tempted to include Sonorous Interiors just to see what
happens.


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Re: OT: Hows the weather?

2018-10-11 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 04:19 PM 10/11/2018, Steve Cottrell wrote:

>Well, 2 out of three ain't bad.

It has gotten pretty bad in places here in the Roanoke Valley of SW VA as we 
got pummelled by rain bands from  Michael. The rain is now to our east but we 
will be feeling the effects for quite some hours. I was out this afternoon but 
stopped for only a couple of quick shots at one point. I had to take them in 
such a hurry that I wasn't able to get the best shots possible.

https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/pages/misc.html

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Re: OT: Hows the weather?

2018-10-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/10/18, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I hope everyone is safe, secure and dry.

Well, 2 out of three ain't bad.

Hoisting a glass to you mate.

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Re: Small computer rant.

2018-10-11 Thread Zos Xavius
SMART cannot warn against catastrophic failure like the loss of the
controller board for instance. It's use as an early warning system is
limited at best and misleading at worst.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 15:06 P. J. Alling  wrote:

> Well it's happened again.  I've had a hard drive failure.  I've managed
> to recover most of the important files from between backups, from the
> almost dead drive, and replaced it with two refurbished 2TB Hitachi
> Server quality drives.   I'm running them in mirrored mode so I have
> data redundancy.  I really have to do that with the boot drive, but for
> now cloned backups will have to do.
>
> Now the rant.  I had three 1tb drives in my machine, and one had a smart
> failure.  I tested it using the long platter test which should IIRC test
> the entire disk surface, and it passes after chugging through it for
> what seems days, (it's actually hours, but hey).  I don't keep anything
> important on after all it's S.M.A.R.T. flags have been tripped and it
> could fail at any time, except it's been like this for at least three
> years.  It'll fail eventually but...
>
> IT WASN'T THE DRIVE THAT FAILED!
>
> Nope, it was a much newer drive, that never had a problem and never gave
> any warning, until it did.
>
> The mother board keeps carping at me that the drive with the S.M.A.R.T.
> flag tripped is going to fail any day now, every time I boot the
> computer,  and it will, someday, but it was actually useless in warning
> me about the impending failure of the other. Sheesh.
>
> Worse there is no way to tell the hardware to ignore the issue.
> Somewhere in the middle of post up the firmware finds the smart flags
> and stops and asks if I want to continue.
>
> I just use that drive as a scratch drive and to hold temporary objects
> that will be deleted anyway.
>
> Then to add insult to injury, in my first attempt at mirroring the
> Hitachi drives one of them failed.  Yes, the the vendor replaced the
> drive promptly, but once again there is no S.M.A.R.T. error.  In fact
> the bad drive passes all S.M.A.R.T. tests using the latest software from
> the manufacturer.  It only fails when you try to write to it for
> extended periods of time.
>
> In fact I could still plug it into the MB run the smart tests, format
> it, and then have it fail at some random time.  But it still tests as
> good in every way except what counts, storing data.
>
> Now I can only ask, what the hell good is S.M.A.R.T. except to annoy me,
> I'm sure it makes someone happy that it does that.
>
> End of Rant.
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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread Henk Terhell

How about a portrait of a beer drinker?



Op 2018-10-11 om 21:11 schreef mike wilson:

On 11 October 2018 at 17:48 John  wrote:


On 10/7/2018 06:11, mike wilson wrote:

On 07 October 2018 at 00:42 Brian Walters  wrote:



On 07 October 2018 at 01:18 Henk Terhell  wrote:


That sounds like a PUG of 2 submissions:)

Yeah - that's my feeling as well.

I never thought of this place as being of limited imagination.


Sonorous just means giving out or capable of giving out a sound, especially a
deep, resonant sound, as a thing or place:

A photo of the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia would fit & doesn't someone from the
list live in Philadelphia? Maybe the inside of a basketball arena. Those get
pretty "sonorous" when the home team scores.

Exactly.  Plus, for example, cathedrals, inside musical instruments and so on.  
The possibilities are multitudinous.




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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread mike wilson
> On 11 October 2018 at 17:48 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/7/2018 06:11, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 07 October 2018 at 00:42 Brian Walters  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 07 October 2018 at 01:18 Henk Terhell  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That sounds like a PUG of 2 submissions:)
> >>
> >> Yeah - that's my feeling as well.
> > 
> > I never thought of this place as being of limited imagination.
> > 
> 
> Sonorous just means giving out or capable of giving out a sound, especially a 
> deep, resonant sound, as a thing or place:
> 
> A photo of the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia would fit & doesn't someone from 
> the 
> list live in Philadelphia? Maybe the inside of a basketball arena. Those get 
> pretty "sonorous" when the home team scores.

Exactly.  Plus, for example, cathedrals, inside musical instruments and so on.  
The possibilities are multitudinous.

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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread Bill

On 10/7/2018 10:32 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On 07 October 2018 at 21:11 mike wilson  wrote:



On 07 October 2018 at 00:42 Brian Walters  wrote:



On 07 October 2018 at 01:18 Henk Terhell  wrote:


That sounds like a PUG of 2 submissions:)


Yeah - that's my feeling as well.


I never thought of this place as being of limited imagination.



I don't think that's the problem.

The issue is that participation in the PUG has been tending downwards over the
past year or two and the majority of themes haven't been too demanding.  I just
have the strong suspicion that a theme like 'Sonorous interiors' will get little
support.

Happy to include it but I'd need some serious encouragement from the list to do
so.


Brian, when I was maintaining the PUG, I found that I had to be quite 
the cheerleader as well. I had the (perhaps dubious) advantage of having 
to hand code the gallery every month, and so I had a lot of volunteers 
helping with that. IIRC, I had a crew of half a dozen page coders at one 
time, which also gave a bit more traffic to the list, keeping the PUG 
closer to the front of people's minds.


Personally, I think simpler themes are better.

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Re: Small computer rant.

2018-10-11 Thread John

On 10/10/2018 16:26, Larry Colen wrote:



P. J. Alling wrote on 10/10/18 1:21 PM:

I'm pretty sure at this point that Murphy invented computers.


Nope, he was a rocket scientist.  Technically an aerospace engineer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_A._Murphy_Jr.

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Re: PUG Themes for 2019

2018-10-11 Thread John

On 10/7/2018 06:11, mike wilson wrote:

On 07 October 2018 at 00:42 Brian Walters  wrote:



On 07 October 2018 at 01:18 Henk Terhell  wrote:


That sounds like a PUG of 2 submissions:)


Yeah - that's my feeling as well.


I never thought of this place as being of limited imagination.



Sonorous just means giving out or capable of giving out a sound, especially a 
deep, resonant sound, as a thing or place:


A photo of the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia would fit & doesn't someone from the 
list live in Philadelphia? Maybe the inside of a basketball arena. Those get 
pretty "sonorous" when the home team scores.


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Re: OT: Hows the weather?

2018-10-11 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 11:22 AM 10/11/2018, John wrote:

>Anyone on list been hit by Michael?

Here in the Roanoke Valley in SW VA we have flash flood watches and, in some 
areas, flash flood warnings. We have been getting very heavy rain from the rain 
bands of the storm and that should continue until sometime tomorrow. We have 
had about three inches of rain at my house with more to come. The puddles in my 
back yard are as large as I have seen them in the 20+ years that I have lived 
here. I plan to take some photos of flooding late today or early tomorrow. 
There are two creeks within a few miles of my house that almost certainly will 
be flooding, and I may get a look at the Roanoke River flooding as well.

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Re: Opinions sought on an experiment

2018-10-11 Thread Larry Colen



John wrote on 10/11/18 8:42 AM:
Points taken because the whole thread is obviously contrived just to 
sneak in a bad pun.


Guilty



On 10/4/2018 12:37, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote on 10/4/18 9:31 AM:

It works well and provides the appropriate contrast.


Thanks.  I was worried that my bark was worse than my bight.





On Oct 4, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I'm curious what people think about using the tree as a background 
for the knotwork photo


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Re: Opinions sought on an experiment

2018-10-11 Thread John
Points taken because the whole thread is obviously contrived just to sneak in a 
bad pun.


On 10/4/2018 12:37, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote on 10/4/18 9:31 AM:

It works well and provides the appropriate contrast.


Thanks.  I was worried that my bark was worse than my bight.





On Oct 4, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I'm curious what people think about using the tree as a background for the 
knotwork photo


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Re: Opinions sought on an experiment

2018-10-11 Thread John

On 10/4/2018 12:20, Larry Colen wrote:
I'm curious what people think about using the tree as a background for the 
knotwork photo


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/44187747395/in/album-72157671969270997/



Shift the rope to the right so there's only one type of bark texture in the 
background.


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Re: PESO 9072 ci V16

2018-10-11 Thread John

On 10/1/2018 16:07, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 1/10/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


A friend took me for a ride yesterday. Here's a shot of the rockers of
the 9072 cubic inch supercharged v16 two stroke diesel motor
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30101771757/in/album-72157671867972797/


Nice.

What, he just opened up the rocker covers for you? Just like that?



Looks like the rocker covers are quick access type to facilitate inspections.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Emd_567B.jpg

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OT: Hows the weather?

2018-10-11 Thread John
Anyone on list been hit by Michael? Woke up this morning to find we're under a 
tornado watch & flash flood warnings. All I'm seeing here at the house is 
intermittent wind & showers.


I hope everyone is safe, secure and dry.

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Re: PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS At BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Alan Cole
Thanks, Paul. I only see my own posts through g-mail, nothing through
@lantic. I don't see posts from several other PDMLers through @lantic
either.

Alan C

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:05 PM Paul Sorenson  wrote:

> Got 'em from both addresses
>
> -p
>
>
> On 10/11/2018 6:25 AM, Alan C wrote:
> > I have posted this PESO to try and sort out mte-mail difficulties.
> >
> > I have also created a g-mail account & sent it from there too.
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/30304500027/
> >
> > K110D & F 35-105
> >
> > If you would like to know about Bourke's luck, go here:
> >
> > https://www.wheretostay.co.za/topic/3772-bourkes-luck-potholes
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> >
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Re: PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS At BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Paul Sorenson

Got 'em from both addresses

-p


On 10/11/2018 6:25 AM, Alan C wrote:

I have posted this PESO to try and sort out mte-mail difficulties.

I have also created a g-mail account & sent it from there too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/30304500027/

K110D & F 35-105

If you would like to know about Bourke's luck, go here:

https://www.wheretostay.co.za/topic/3772-bourkes-luck-potholes

Alan C



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OT: The Night Watch

2018-10-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://twistedsifter.com/videos/what-makes-rembrandts-the-night-watch-such-a-masterpiece/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Twistedsifter+%28TwistedSifter+%29

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PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS AT BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Alan Cole
 I have posted this PESO to try and sort out my e-mail difficulties.

I have also created a g-mail account & sent it from there too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/30304500027/

K110D & F 35-105

If you would like to know about Bourke's luck, go here:

https://www.wheretostay.co.za/topic/3772-bourkes-luck-potholes

Alan C
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PESO: LADY TRIBAL DANCERS At BOURKE'S LUCK

2018-10-11 Thread Alan C

I have posted this PESO to try and sort out mte-mail difficulties.

I have also created a g-mail account & sent it from there too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/30304500027/

K110D & F 35-105

If you would like to know about Bourke's luck, go here:

https://www.wheretostay.co.za/topic/3772-bourkes-luck-potholes

Alan C



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