Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Ann ...

I have a few pics for that contest, and was concerned about them having
been put up on my web site and that one was in the PUG.  I sent an email
asking for clarification and received TWO replies, one saying that if
it's on the web, it's considered published, the other taking a different
POV.

I'm gonna submit anyway ... I think I saved the reply that said the pics
were not considered to be published.

However, you really shouldn't enter.  I'm gonna win in all categories
... maybe you can work on perfecting that beef stew recipe LOL

Now I'm gonna get more hate mail about how condescending I am, and how
my ego is so friggin huge, and how I think I'm God's gift to
photography.  Well, it's all true LOL and it's all done with old
cameras and outdated BW negative film LOL

shel

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Smithsonian contest coming up  -
 One of the rules  is  No previously published
 works.  Is a photo in the PUG
 considered published?  Is a photo on my homepage
 previously published?



Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 Smithsonian contest coming up  -
 One of the rules  is  No previously published
 works.  Is a photo in the PUG
 considered published?  Is a photo on my homepage
 previously published?

If you show it to your friends, it's published as far as British law is
concerned.  It has become available to others by an act of the owner.

 One of the other rules is one is not allowed to
 contact them about the
 contest submissions and they won't be responsible
 for illegal submissions.

Looks like one to avoid.  Bracket it with the enter and lose your
copyright because we will take it over types.  Anyway, Shel says he's
going to win and we know that _has_ to be right. gringringringrin

mike



Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
No and no. Previously published is a photo in a consumer magazine or 
other format that was on sale to the public. Unless someone is paying 
to see it, it is not published.
Paul
On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Smithsonian contest coming up  -
One of the rules  is  No previously published
works.  Is a photo in the PUG
considered published?  Is a photo on my homepage
previously published?
One of the other rules is one is not allowed to
contact them about the
contest submissions and they won't be responsible
for illegal submissions.
Ugh.

annsan the puzzled





Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it to 
our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not published.

On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 02:00 PM, William Robb wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele
Subject: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

Smithsonian contest coming up  -
One of the rules  is  No previously published
works.  Is a photo in the PUG
considered published?  Is a photo on my homepage
previously published?
The PUG is considered a publication, AFAIK. I recall haiving this
discussion with Igor (our man at Komkon), and that was his 
interpretation
also.
I think that anything that is put on you own website could be 
interpreted as
being in a personal portfolio, and hence not published, but it also 
depends
on who is doing the interpretating..

William Robb




Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 05:17 PM, Cotty wrote:
\
Go for it Ann. Consider that by 'published' they meant in print. Feign
ignorance if questioned.
.02 and good luck :-)



Exactly. Does anyone really think they're going to check entries 
against the PUG? And does anyone think that great photos shot in the 
last few years haven't been posted somewhere on the web. Get real.



Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it to 
 our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not published.

Sorry there are plenty of instances where work is published without the author 
attaining payment for the work, consider the publication of medical research 
for instance (ie a study on the reason that belly button lint is very often 
blue/gray in colour :-)

Rob Studdert
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UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest


 On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:

  The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it to
  our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not published.

 Sorry there are plenty of instances where work is published without the
author
 attaining payment for the work, consider the publication of medical
research
 for instance (ie a study on the reason that belly button lint is very
often
 blue/gray in colour :-)

This may be one of those differences between the way things are done in the
USA and TCW.
Since Ann is in the USA, and the Smithsonian is also an American
institution, if thats the way it's done there, then that's that.
OTOH, if TCW law is different, that would affect her entering the photo in a
British (as an example) publication.

William Robb



Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Butch Black
- Original Message -
 From: Ann Sanfedele
 Subject: Defining previously Published for a photo contest


 Smithsonian contest coming up  -
 One of the rules  is  No previously published
 works.  Is a photo in the PUG
 considered published?  Is a photo on my homepage
 previously published?

My guess is that provision is there to protect the Smithsonian against
copyright infringement lawsuits from other publications. Where you retain
all rights with anything you submit to the PUG, you just give them
permission to display the image, I would not consider it published. I would
get a complete set of rules from the Smithsonian before submitting, paying
close attention to what rights you are signing off by submitting an image.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)



Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I sell a lot of photographs to magazines. I have never had a problem 
with previously published unless the photo appeared on a printed page 
in another mag. No one that I know worries about photos that have 
appeared in obscure places on the net. Thus, PUG photos are not 
published, at least not in my world.
On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 07:21 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it to
our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not published.
Sorry there are plenty of instances where work is published without 
the author
attaining payment for the work, consider the publication of medical 
research
for instance (ie a study on the reason that belly button lint is very 
often
blue/gray in colour :-)

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
In my wildest fantasies I can't imagine that the Smithsonian would 
consider a photo that appeared in the PUG to be published. I wouldn't 
even raise the issue. Send it in.
On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 06:36 PM, William Robb wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Defining previously Published for a photo contest

On 16 Nov 2003 at 17:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The PUG is an informal sharing of photographs, much like showing it 
to
our neighbor. There is no compensation, therefore it is not 
published.
Sorry there are plenty of instances where work is published without 
the
author
attaining payment for the work, consider the publication of medical
research
for instance (ie a study on the reason that belly button lint is very
often
blue/gray in colour :-)
This may be one of those differences between the way things are done 
in the
USA and TCW.
Since Ann is in the USA, and the Smithsonian is also an American
institution, if thats the way it's done there, then that's that.
OTOH, if TCW law is different, that would affect her entering the 
photo in a
British (as an example) publication.

William Robb




Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Al Shaikh
I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is 
sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you feel like entering feel 
free. First and only prize is a set of 5 calendars of your own images. 
Photographer retains all rights blah, you know the deal.

Enjoy  Good luck
al
http://www.usefilm.com





Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Al Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is 
sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. 

Aw hell, none of us will enter because we know Mike Johnston will walk
away with all the prizes...
:-P

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread David Brooks
I'll sacrifice myself and enter a few,just to make
him work for itvbg

Dave(2 flowers)Brooks
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:41:02 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photo Contest


Al Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is 
sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. 

Aw hell, none of us will enter because we know Mike Johnston will walk
away with all the prizes...
:-P

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



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Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Al Shaikh wrote:

 I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is
 sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you feel like entering feel
 free. First and only prize is a set of 5 calendars of your own images.
 Photographer retains all rights blah, you know the deal.

 Enjoy  Good luck
 al
 http://www.usefilm.com

I took a look - 5 images are required.  12 months.  5 calendars. So what you
win is  one different
image on each of 5 calendars, not an image a page, it appears.  And you have
to join and a $25 donation
is suggested to be a member.  Not so appealing to me, at least.

Just my 2 cents
annsan






Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Ann... Just to be fair, one has to join PDML in order to participate in
PUG, and those donations go to support the website and pay for the prizes. I
don't think usefilm.com is making a killing on this.

My guess is that the calendars are a lot like those sold by Photographer's
Edge.

t

On 2/7/03 8:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Al Shaikh wrote:
 
 I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is
 sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you feel like entering feel
 free. First and only prize is a set of 5 calendars of your own images.
 Photographer retains all rights blah, you know the deal.
 
 Enjoy  Good luck
 al
 http://www.usefilm.com
 
 I took a look - 5 images are required.  12 months.  5 calendars. So what you
 win is  one different
 image on each of 5 calendars, not an image a page, it appears.  And you have
 to join and a $25 donation
 is suggested to be a member.  Not so appealing to me, at least.
 
 Just my 2 cents
 annsan
 
 
 




Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Al Shaikh
1) The contest is for 5 flower images, so you can show a little thought 
and put together a series of decent images. Any gimp can take one decent 
image by accident but putting together a mini portfolio is more of a 
challenge and perhaps will help show a bit of your visual style.

2) You can put whatever images you want to on your calendar if you win. 
The choice of images for your calendar is up to you and not related to 
the contest. You can and will be able to put an image per page on your 
calendar if you win.

3) Joining usefilm.com is free.

4) Participating in the contest is free.

5) The donations have nothing to do with this contest, they are for 
members who use and enjoy the site to help defray the costs of hosting a 
large site. They are completely VOLUNTARY.

Hope that cleared everything up.


al



Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Al Shaikh wrote:

 

I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is
sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you feel like entering feel
free. First and only prize is a set of 5 calendars of your own images.
Photographer retains all rights blah, you know the deal.

Enjoy  Good luck
al
http://www.usefilm.com
   


I took a look - 5 images are required.  12 months.  5 calendars. So what you
win is  one different
image on each of 5 calendars, not an image a page, it appears.  And you have
to join and a $25 donation
is suggested to be a member.  Not so appealing to me, at least.

Just my 2 cents
annsan




 







Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Al Shaikh
Hi tim,

This is what the calendars look like if you are curious:  
http://digi-labs.net/
Basically we don't get a penny for putting up this contest, we give a 
little publicity to the vendor and they sponsor something nice for our 
members. That's the whole deal.

al



Timothy Sherburne wrote:

Ann... Just to be fair, one has to join PDML in order to participate in
PUG, and those donations go to support the website and pay for the prizes. I
don't think usefilm.com is making a killing on this.

My guess is that the calendars are a lot like those sold by Photographer's
Edge.

t

On 2/7/03 8:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 

Al Shaikh wrote:

   

I thought you guys might like a little contest. Usefilm.com is
sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you feel like entering feel
free. First and only prize is a set of 5 calendars of your own images.
Photographer retains all rights blah, you know the deal.

Enjoy  Good luck
al
http://www.usefilm.com
 

I took a look - 5 images are required.  12 months.  5 calendars. So what you
win is  one different
image on each of 5 calendars, not an image a page, it appears.  And you have
to join and a $25 donation
is suggested to be a member.  Not so appealing to me, at least.

Just my 2 cents
annsan



   



 







Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread Brendan
I already have 2 calendars with my name on it, that
and theres no way were going to win aginst that shoe
box of slides. But it's a good spot to get critique.

 --- Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Ann... Just to be fair, one has to join PDML in
 order to participate in
 PUG, and those donations go to support the website
 and pay for the prizes. I
 don't think usefilm.com is making a killing on this.
 
 My guess is that the calendars are a lot like those
 sold by Photographer's
 Edge.
 
 t
 
 On 2/7/03 8:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  Al Shaikh wrote:
  
  I thought you guys might like a little contest.
 Usefilm.com is
  sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you
 feel like entering feel
  free. First and only prize is a set of 5
 calendars of your own images.
  Photographer retains all rights blah, you know
 the deal.
  
  Enjoy  Good luck
  al
  http://www.usefilm.com
  
  I took a look - 5 images are required.  12 months.
  5 calendars. So what you
  win is  one different
  image on each of 5 calendars, not an image a page,
 it appears.  And you have
  to join and a $25 donation
  is suggested to be a member.  Not so appealing to
 me, at least.
  
  Just my 2 cents
  annsan
  
  
  
  

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Re: Re: Photo Contest

2003-02-07 Thread David Brooks
I just saw your entry Brendan,I'm sending one tonight.I can only send 
one a day anyway.I have
no jpg's in the office computer to sendg

Dave
 Begin Original Message 

From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:22:11 -0500 (EST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photo Contest


I already have 2 calendars with my name on it, that
and theres no way were going to win aginst that shoe
box of slides. But it's a good spot to get critique.

 --- Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Ann... Just to be fair, one has to join PDML in
 order to participate in
 PUG, and those donations go to support the website
 and pay for the prizes. I
 don't think usefilm.com is making a killing on this.
 
 My guess is that the calendars are a lot like those
 sold by Photographer's
 Edge.
 
 t
 
 On 2/7/03 8:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  Al Shaikh wrote:
  
  I thought you guys might like a little contest.
 Usefilm.com is
  sponsoring one with flowers as the theme. If you
 feel like entering feel
  free. First and only prize is a set of 5
 calendars of your own images.
  Photographer retains all rights blah, you know
 the deal.
  
  Enjoy  Good luck
  al
  http://www.usefilm.com
  
  I took a look - 5 images are required.  12 months.
  5 calendars. So what you
  win is  one different
  image on each of 5 calendars, not an image a page,
 it appears.  And you have
  to join and a $25 donation
  is suggested to be a member.  Not so appealing to
 me, at least.
  
  Just my 2 cents
  annsan
  
  
  
  

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$130,000 Photo Contest

2002-12-24 Thread Ken Archer
Did I get your attention?  The Valley Land Fund in South Texas stages a 
photo contest on even calendar years to promote the conservation of 
land and wildlife in the border area.  Landowners and photographers are 
equal partners in the contest which has a top prize of $30,000.  This 
year's winning photos are online at:

http://www.valleylandfund.com/winningphotos.html

-- 
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San Antonio, Texas
Business Is Going To The Dogs




Re: photo contest--Is this one legit?

2002-02-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ken Archer wrote:
 
 Sounds like a good contest to me.  You pay them $40 to look at your
 entries and then All entrants grant Communications Arts the right to
 reproduce work selected in the 2002 Photography Annual, the
 Communication Arts Web site and in materials used to promote the
 magazine and/or future related promotions.  Any you get..?
 
To keep your negative???

My question , too.  At least Photography Annual actually awarded money
if 
you were win, place or show in more than one category.  And you got a
free copy of the book and the mag if you were honorable mention or
better.  However, I think those
who were just finalists had to pay for the book.

annsan
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photo contest--Is this one legit?

2002-02-20 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

I just received this message. Did anyone else? What can anyone tell me 
about it?

Subject: Call for Entries
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 05:50:54 -0800
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400

COMMUNICATION ARTS ILLUSTRATION AND PHOTOGRAPHY COMPETITIONS
Now is the time to promote your talent to the creative community and
potential clients worldwide by having your work selected for the largest and
most important juried competition for illustration and photography.
Communication Arts invites you to enter your work in the 43rd Annual
Illustration and Photography competitions.
Selected, award-winning pieces will appear in Communication Arts magazine,
in either the July Illustration Annual or August Photography Annual. More
than 73,000 copies of each Annual will be in circulation worldwide, assuring
the selected entries important exposure to professionals in the fields of
advertising and design.
The deadline for both competitions is March 15, 2002.
For submission guidelines, PDF entry forms and FAQs, visit:
http://www.commarts.com/competition



Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: photo contest--Is this one legit?

2002-02-20 Thread Bmacrae

Paul...

Comm Arts is basically a trade publication. My wife works at a printing broker and 
they use Comm Arts for ideas for designers that come to them with projects...designers 
on their own use it all the time.

It's a very nice piece. I look forward to thumbing through it every year. The 
photography is, of course, outstanding, because it's all been published (although they 
have an Unpublished category as well for students).

About as legit a contest as you'll find.

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Re: photo contest--Is this one legit?

2002-02-20 Thread Bmacrae

Paul...

Completely legit.

Comm Arts is a trade publication that comes out every year. It is used by designers 
and others in the advertising/publishing world as a way of sharing ideas and scouting 
talent.

My wife works for a print broker and they use Comm Arts all the time. Very nice book 
actually. The photography is, of course, fantastic as it's all been published although 
they do have an Unpublished section for students. 

I look forward to thumbing through it every year.

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Re: photo contest--Is this one legit?

2002-02-20 Thread Bmacrae

REDUNDANT...

gee, why is it when my email says it didn't send and it did?

...


???

:-(

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Re: photo contest--Is this one legit?

2002-02-20 Thread T Rittenhouse

Yes, that must save them several thosands of dollars every year. Hell, it
must make them several thousand dollars every year.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: photo contest--Is this one legit?


 Sounds like a good contest to me.  You pay them $40 to look at your
 entries and then All entrants grant Communications Arts the right to
 reproduce work selected in the 2002 Photography Annual, the
 Communication Arts Web site and in materials used to promote the
 magazine and/or future related promotions.  Any you get..?

 On Wednesday 20 February 2002 10:24 pm, Paul Stenquist wrote:
  Communication Arts is the most respected publication in print media.
  Paul Stenquist

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