Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
> On May 24, 2020, at 1:43 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >> Am 23.05.20 um 23:55 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: >> Completely irrelevant Ralf. > > Let me decide that. Sure, but you only need to do it once. Your position on this issue has been the same and repeated every time the issue surfaces for, oh, at least five years now. Do you think anyone here needs to hear it yet again? And the issue didn't even surface this time. You brought it up out of nowhere. I was trying to help Paul with his problems, which I have not seen myself but which I have some surrounding context in the form of others I know who are working with the same equipment and not experiencing a problem. >> I tossed any device that the manufacturers won’t support properly years ago.. > > There isn't a simple replacement for some things. Besides, you're > obviously stinking rich. Not everybody is. My personal finances are not only just as irrelevant as your beef and none of your business as well. I agree: there isn't a simple replacement for some things. And the issues that brings up get compounded when you don't stay on top of the fast changing world in which these kinds of things have their life cycle. For instance, I had one device that I was using rather a lot, and it was somewhat expensive. When it became incompatible with an OS revision, I called the vendor and explained the situation I was seeing in detail. My interest in keeping them up to date and providing explicit, clear documentary evidence provoked them to realize that it was important, and they discovered that the fix was a single build system option and a minor bit of error guarding around a critical piece of the code at a couple of points…. All recommended things that were in the guidelines that Apple publishes, btw. So they rebuilt the software, sent it to me for testing, and then distributed the fix via their normal channels when it proved to work just right. If I'd not contacted them and worked with them on the problem, and no one else had, they might have perceived it to be of no real value to put the effort in and it would have dropped off their visibility scenario. If they'd then have investigated bringing things up to date four or five major revisions later, well, it's quite likely the changes would have required a wholly larger amount of work, and the number of users in the community would have dwindled into the unprofitable range by then. As it was, they got an extra couple of years out of that product before phasing in a new one, and users of the existing product got a few more years of use out of it. I phased it out of the work I was doing in favor of other devices over the course of a year. I always keep up to date, and age out things that are no longer supported/getting long in the tooth when it seems appropriate to do so under the circumstances I'm working in. And I work with the software and hardware vendors when I have to to ensure that they understand the problems, and have a decent shot at fixing them economically and quickly. I've been doing this for the past thirty-six years. It seems to work out really well for me. I don't just snarl, "Damn Apple" and hope that another solution will surface cheaply in a year or more, and stay moribund with old stuff while waiting. It's what I call 'being proactive' vs 'being reactive'. Good luck with your future move to Linux. I'm sure there'll be no problems there at all. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
Am 24.05.20 um 20:52 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: Your position on this issue has been the same and repeated every time the issue surfaces for, oh, at least five years now. Gee, time really flies these days. Five years already since Catalina was presented in June 2019... I agree: there isn't a simple replacement for some things. For some there's even no replacement at all. For instance, I had one device that I was using rather a lot, and it was somewhat expensive. When it became incompatible with an OS revision, I called the vendor and explained the situation I was seeing in detail. Been there, done that. Just two examples for products which I'm using all the time: https://europe.beyerdynamic.com/catalog/product/view/id/40/s/headzone-pro-xt/ I've spoken to Beyerdynamic and there'll be no drivers for OSX versions beyond Mojave. There is nothing comparable on the market. I have thousands of audio files (soundscapes, live recordings) catalogued in Media Pro. With channel allocations, locations, settings, keywords, descriptions, the lot. Used to be sold by Microsoft and later by Phase One/Heidelberg Systems. No 64 bit version. There's nothing else with comparable functionality available. Some database programs for record collectors and a few others for samples used by musicians. Of no use to me. Someone should come up with some kind of Lightroom for audio. Until then I'm afraid I'll be stuck with what I have. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
Am 23.05.20 um 23:55 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: Completely irrelevant Ralf. Let me decide that. I tossed any device that the manufacturers won’t support properly years ago.. There isn't a simple replacement for some things. Besides, you're obviously stinking rich. Not everybody is. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
Completely irrelevant Ralf. I’m trying to help Paul with his issue, which has nothing to do with unavailable software for your ancient devices. I tossed any device that the manufacturers won’t support properly years ago.. any manufacturer that does that loses my business and my good will. There are always other solutions. G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408-431-4601 > On May 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 23.05.20 um 21:24 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: > >> Mac OS was 32bit since release in 2001. It was enabled with 64bit in the >> middle '00s when 64bit compatible hardware started to become available, and >> has now switched to 64bit only in the release of macOS Catalina. > > Sorry, Godfrey, but let me emphasize this yet again: > > Everyone who has software that is and won't be evailable in a 64 bit > version or hardware that requires drivers whoch won't be available in 64 > bit versions needs to stay away from Catalina or he will lose the > possibility to use this soft- or hardware! > > This shouldn't be a problem for Paul as I gather there are 64 bit > drivers available for his Epson hardware, but for other products maybe not. > > I have over 2 k$ of hardware running here that I couldn't do without and > their suppliers have already announced that they won't provide 64 bit > drivers, so Mojave will be my last OSX version for quite some time. > > Hopefully, the Linux world will by then be advanced enough that I can do > away with Apple altogether. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
Not sure what you're talking about, Paul. Mac OS was 32bit since release in 2001. It was enabled with 64bit in the middle '00s when 64bit compatible hardware started to become available, and has now switched to 64bit only in the release of macOS Catalina. VueScan has had 32 and 64bit versions available for macOS for about a decade now. What model and year computer do you have? What processor and RAM are in it? What version of MacOS is installed? How are your printer and scanner connected to it? What do you mean, "the computer doesn't see the scanner or printer"? What are you using to indicate whether or not the devices are available? I don't use Epson Scan, I use VueScan. I connect my ancient, 2004 generation Epson 2460 flatbed scanner to a Mac mini 2019 running Catalina via a USB-C to USB A plug adapter, plug in the scanner, and run VueScan. It connects right up and drives the scanner. I'm sure it would drive your scanner, but I don't have a cable long enough to test it... :) G > On May 23, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I don’t think Vuescan will help here. The computer doesn’t see the scanner or > printer. And I don’t think Vuescan runs on 16-bit OS. Epson and Apple will > eventually have a fix, but Id like to work now. > > Paul > >> On May 23, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> >> The problem you’ve encountered is why I plunked down $100 for a VueScan >> license. But mine was a problem just with a scanner. >> >> Others have said they prefer the Epson software. In my limited amateurish >> experience I have always used been frustrated by it. >> >> ——— >> >>> On May 23, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Paul Stenquist >>> wrote: >>> >>> I had to go to Catalina OS 10.15.4 to enable PhotoShop on the cloud and >>> some other software. I like the way it performs, but I can’t find any Epson >>> driers that work with my 850 Pro scanner and my 2880 printer. Epson offers >>> them on their site, but they don’t work. Does anyone know of a fix or are >>> new driers in the works? I can print from my laptop which is still High >>> Sierrra, but I do all my work on my iMac and would rather scan and print >>> there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
Am 23.05.20 um 21:24 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: Mac OS was 32bit since release in 2001. It was enabled with 64bit in the middle '00s when 64bit compatible hardware started to become available, and has now switched to 64bit only in the release of macOS Catalina. Sorry, Godfrey, but let me emphasize this yet again: Everyone who has software that is and won't be evailable in a 64 bit version or hardware that requires drivers whoch won't be available in 64 bit versions needs to stay away from Catalina or he will lose the possibility to use this soft- or hardware! This shouldn't be a problem for Paul as I gather there are 64 bit drivers available for his Epson hardware, but for other products maybe not. I have over 2 k$ of hardware running here that I couldn't do without and their suppliers have already announced that they won't provide 64 bit drivers, so Mojave will be my last OSX version for quite some time. Hopefully, the Linux world will by then be advanced enough that I can do away with Apple altogether. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
Hmm. I've got a couple of friends in my workshop group who run Macs on macOS Catalina and have the Perfection V850 Pro scanner and Stylus Photo R2880 printer. Neither have reported any difficulties using them … They just downloaded and installed the latest drivers from Epson and were up and running immediately. What's the issue? G > On May 23, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I had to go to Catalina OS 10.15.4 to enable PhotoShop on the cloud and some > other software. I like the way it performs, but I can’t find any Epson driers > that work with my 850 Pro scanner and my 2880 printer. Epson offers them on > their site, but they don’t work. Does anyone know of a fix or are new driers > in the works? I can print from my laptop which is still High Sierrra, but I > do all my work on my iMac and would rather scan and print there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
I don’t think Vuescan will help here. The computer doesn’t see the scanner or printer. And I don’t think Vuescan runs on 16-bit OS. Epson and Apple will eventually have a fix, but Id like to work now. Paul > On May 23, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > > The problem you’ve encountered is why I plunked down $100 for a VueScan > license. But mine was a problem just with a scanner. > > Others have said they prefer the Epson software. In my limited amateurish > experience I have always used been frustrated by it. > > ——— > >> On May 23, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> I had to go to Catalina OS 10.15.4 to enable PhotoShop on the cloud and >> some other software. I like the way it performs, but I can’t find any Epson >> driers that work with my 850 Pro scanner and my 2880 printer. Epson offers >> them on their site, but they don’t work. Does anyone know of a fix or are >> new driers in the works? I can print from my laptop which is still High >> Sierrra, but I do all my work on my iMac and would rather scan and print >> there. >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mac Catalina and Epson Drivers
The problem you’ve encountered is why I plunked down $100 for a VueScan license. But mine was a problem just with a scanner. Others have said they prefer the Epson software. In my limited amateurish experience I have always used been frustrated by it. ——— > On May 23, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I had to go to Catalina OS 10.15.4 to enable PhotoShop on the cloud and some > other software. I like the way it performs, but I can’t find any Epson driers > that work with my 850 Pro scanner and my 2880 printer. Epson offers them on > their site, but they don’t work. Does anyone know of a fix or are new driers > in the works? I can print from my laptop which is still High Sierrra, but I > do all my work on my iMac and would rather scan and print there. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
