Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I can only compare the MZ-3 to the ZX5n  which except for the higher top 
shutter speed on the former were pretty much identical.  I noticed no 
difference in operation.  AFAIK the only difference between the MZ/ZX5 
and the 5n version was the addition of a DOF preview.


On 9/15/2011 10:54 AM, luiz felipe wrote:
Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of 
keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR is 
high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.


The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter and 
X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of the 
results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some time 
apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or 
shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters.


So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is there 
any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any comments 
on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from the MZ-5 in 
form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than the MZ-5 - I did 
have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as reference.


TIA,



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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-23 Thread Steve Sharpe

At 4:00 PM -0400 9/23/11, P. J. Alling wrote:
I can only compare the MZ-3 to the ZX5n  which except for the higher 
top shutter speed on the former were pretty much identical.  I 
noticed no difference in operation.  AFAIK the only difference 
between the MZ/ZX5 and the 5n version was the addition of a DOF 
preview.


The 5n had the panorama switch, too. Did the ZX5?



On 9/15/2011 10:54 AM, luiz felipe wrote:
Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of 
keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR 
is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.


The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter 
and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of 
the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some 
time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, 
or shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters.


So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is 
there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any 
comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from 
the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than 
the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as 
reference.


TIA,



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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/23/2011 4:17 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

At 4:00 PM -0400 9/23/11, P. J. Alling wrote:
I can only compare the MZ-3 to the ZX5n  which except for the higher 
top shutter speed on the former were pretty much identical.  I 
noticed no difference in operation.  AFAIK the only difference 
between the MZ/ZX5 and the 5n version was the addition of a DOF preview.


The 5n had the panorama switch, too. Did the ZX5?


Wouldn't know, but the only thing the Panorama switch was good for was 
to give the camera something else to break.






On 9/15/2011 10:54 AM, luiz felipe wrote:
Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of 
keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR 
is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.


The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter 
and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of 
the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some 
time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or 
shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters.


So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is 
there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any 
comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from 
the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than 
the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as reference.


TIA,



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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-23 Thread Brian Walters
On Friday, September 23, 2011 5:17 PM, Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca
wrote:
 At 4:00 PM -0400 9/23/11, P. J. Alling wrote:
 I can only compare the MZ-3 to the ZX5n  which except for the higher 
 top shutter speed on the former were pretty much identical.  I 
 noticed no difference in operation.  AFAIK the only difference 
 between the MZ/ZX5 and the 5n version was the addition of a DOF 
 preview.
 
 The 5n had the panorama switch, too. Did the ZX5?


It did.  Or at least my MZ5 does.



Cheers

Brian

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 On 9/15/2011 10:54 AM, luiz felipe wrote:
 Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of 
 keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR 
 is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.
 
 The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter 
 and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of 
 the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some 
 time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, 
 or shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters.
 
 So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is 
 there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any 
 comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from 
 the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than 
 the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as 
 reference.
 
 TIA,
 
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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-17 Thread Thibouille
MZ5n also has DoF preview btw.
MZ3 has 1/4000 shutter and 1/125 sync.
Otherwise, it is the same camera AFAIK.

Small details about AF etc. can be found on B. Dimitrov website:
(search for MZ-3)  http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/AF/index.html


2011/9/16 luiz felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
 Thanks for the comments! I was hoping the MZ-3 would be somewhat quicker
 than the MZ-5, since the shutter lag and AF speed of said MZ-5 did not
 impress me when I used one, some time ago. At least the MZ-3 offers DOF
 preview.

 Since the intended use for that camera is not high quality but risky
 situations, AND the current camera is an EOS 500n, probably there will be
 one more pentax around here. We'll see...

 Thanks!

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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-17 Thread Toralf Lund

On 9/16/11 20:48, luiz felipe wrote:
Thanks for the comments! I was hoping the MZ-3 would be somewhat 
quicker than the MZ-5, since the shutter lag and AF speed of said MZ-5 
did not impress me when I used one, some time ago. At least the MZ-3 
offers DOF preview.
I've used an MZ-5n, which like others are saying is a virtually 
identical camera, quite a lot, and I don't think the AF is as much 
slow as it is hit or miss. I've also haven't noticed any other lag. 
I've never tried the MZ-5 for comparison, though, so maybe I'm not being 
helpful.


The MZ-3 (and -5n) also has an exposure lock button, which I think the 
MZ-5 may be missing.



- Toralf


Since the intended use for that camera is not high quality but risky 
situations, AND the current camera is an EOS 500n, probably there will 
be one more pentax around here. We'll see...


Thanks!




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Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-15 Thread luiz felipe
Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of 
keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR is 
high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.


The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter and X 
sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of the results 
will be pretty much the same, but since they came some time apart, maybe 
they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or shorter shutter lag - 
I understand they have diff shutters.


So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is there 
any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any comments on 
the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from the MZ-5 in form 
of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than the MZ-5 - I did have 
one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as reference.


TIA,
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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-15 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:54:55AM -0300, luiz felipe wrote:
 Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of
 keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR
 is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.
 
 The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter
 and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of
 the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some
 time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or
 shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters.
 
 So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is
 there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any
 comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from
 the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than
 the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as
 reference.

IIRC, the MZ-3 was the final incarnation of the MZ-5/MZ-5n series,
with incremental improvements in every model. It was initially only
available in Japan (fueling a thriving trade in grey-market imports).
[I know the MZ-S was a later, higher-specced camera, but that was in a
very different body; the MZ-3 is very similar in appearance to a MZ-5]

I'd be very surprised if the MZ-3 wasn't at least as good as a MZ-5n
on every scale of measurement, and significantly better in some areas.


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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-15 Thread Jaume Lahuerta

De: John Francis jo...@panix.com
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: jueves 15 de septiembre de 2011 19:55
Asunto: Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:54:55AM -0300, luiz felipe wrote:
 Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of
 keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR
 is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n.
 
 The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter
 and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of
 the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some
 time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or
 shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters.
 
 So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is
 there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any
 comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from
 the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than
 the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as
 reference.

IIRC, the MZ-3 was the final incarnation of the MZ-5/MZ-5n series,
with incremental improvements in every model. It was initially only
available in Japan (fueling a thriving trade in grey-market imports).
[I know the MZ-S was a later, higher-specced camera, but that was in a
very different body; the MZ-3 is very similar in appearance to a MZ-5]

I'd be very surprised if the MZ-3 wasn't at least as good as a MZ-5n
on every scale of measurement, and significantly better in some areas.


For what I remember and read in Bojidar's site, the MZ-3 is a MZ-5n with 1/4000 
top speed instead of 1/2000 (the MZ-5n, which I own does have DoF preview)
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/index.html


Regards,
Jaume


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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-15 Thread Dario Bonazza

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

For what I remember and read in Bojidar's site, the MZ-3 is a MZ-5n with 
1/4000 top speed instead of 1/2000 (the MZ-5n, which I own does have DoF 
preview)

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/index.html


Correct. The only difference between the two cameras is the tuning of the 
shutter. Then, in order to differentiate them a bit more, Pentax equipped 
the MZ-3 with the data back as standard, while the MZ-5n had it optional. 
This is true for most markets, but I won't be surprised to see that 
somewhere the MZ-5n was sold with the data back, and/or the MZ-3 without it.


Dario 



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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-15 Thread Bong Manayon
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For what I remember and read in Bojidar's site, the MZ-3 is a MZ-5n with 
 1/4000 top speed instead of 1/2000 (the MZ-5n, which I own does have DoF 
 preview)
 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/index.html

I used to have the MZ-5n  currently an MZ-3.  That--for me--is the
only difference between the 5n  the 3; I do not seem to see any
performance difference between the two.  I never used the MZ-5 though
so I cannot speak for it in comparison with the latter models.

I used the MZ-5n extensively just before shifting to DSLRs, so it was
quite beat up (the pop up flash spring is gone for one...something
chronic, it seems, with MZs and I remember using it only once) but I
sold it when a used MZ-3 came my way.

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