Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-03 Thread Eactivist
Heh. Sorry, not interested. Maybe someone else is. Good luck. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/29/2014 2:06:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, miser...@gmail.com writes: Marine, I should add, in case it's important to you, that the X-E2 has an onboard flash while the X-T1 doesn't. If I

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-03 Thread Eactivist
The mirrorless seem to be getting CLOSE to what I want. Sort of like, I'll know it when I see it. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/31/2014 4:46:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, godfreydigio...@me.com writes: On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:31 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: .. I am still sort of

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On January 31, 2014 7:45:17 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:31 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: .. I am still sort of the opinion that *my* perfect camera hasn't been made yet. .. It's probably a fact that no camera can ever truly be perfect. I've

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 1, 2014 9:37:58 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 February 2014 08:18, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: If camera makers opened up their firmware, then I'd probably be able to end up with a 98% perfect camera for no extra money, but nobody listens to Thom Hogan, let alone to me :-/ Cheers, Amen, the Sony RX100.. could benefit

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I've thought about that for the last 5 years or so. Shame there are no custom camera builders, like there are tailors, architects or carpinters; at this point I get so worked up by imperfect cameras that I'd be willing to pay a

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/1/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. This bloke seems to think the EVF is something special. Bit of a fanboy maybe but he's not 100% on it. Interesting take.

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 31/1/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. This bloke seems to think the EVF is something special. Bit of a fanboy maybe but he's not 100% on it.

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Hmmm. Interesting! Thanks, Cotty. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 31/1/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. This bloke seems to think the EVF is something special. Bit of a fanboy

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from the weird processing required for the X sensors), and with the Sony A7, it's the placement of the EV Compensation dial. The right- rear corner is just wrong--I

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from the weird processing required for the X sensors), and with the Sony A7, it's the

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-31 Thread Eactivist
Heh. I thought saw a X-M2 at CES. No longer sure, maybe it was the X-T1. Or the X-E2. Whatever it was, it was brand, brand new. MarnieHuh, probably not. I have conflicting desires to dump my Canon equipment and get the K-3 or a Fujifilm or something similar that is smaller. But the

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/1/14, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed: *my* perfect camera hasn't been made yet. Mark. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-31 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Heh. I thought saw a X-M2 at CES. No longer sure, maybe it was the X-T1. Or the X-E2. Whatever it was, it was brand, brand new. Marnie Huh, probably not. I have conflicting desires to dump my Canon equipment and get the K-3 or a Fujifilm

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:31 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: .. I am still sort of the opinion that *my* perfect camera hasn't been made yet. .. It's probably a fact that no camera can ever truly be perfect. I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/1/14, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Give me a bag of cormorants any day. MARK! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Attila Boros
It's a very nice body, similar to OM-D E-M1. I don't mind EVF, the latest iterations are quite good. Magnification could be better though. I'm not planning to get a mirrorless system, but now it would be a tough choice between this and the Olympus. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread P.J. Alling
The Olympus looks really good, but I'd be leaning towards the SONY a7, despite it's now documented shortcomings, with an adapter it would make my full frame K and M lenses their proper focal lengths again. I really don't like the fly by wire focusing that seems to be the new normal for most

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Eactivist
I am interested in the X-M2, not sure of the differences between it and this one. (It has a viewfinder also, saw it at CES). Marnie In a message dated 1/28/2014 3:40:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, co...@seeingeye.tv writes: On 28/1/14, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: And I'm really not

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Miserere
Marine, I should add, in case it's important to you, that the X-E2 has an onboard flash while the X-T1 doesn't. If I come across as a Fuji salesperson, I'm not. I'll happily let you know all the things that annoy the hell out of me on the X-E2 :-) Cheers, --M. \/\/o/\/\ --

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: If I come across as a Fuji salesperson, I'm not. I'll happily let you know all the things that annoy the hell out of me on the X-E2 :-) My X-E1 I got used will eventually go - but it's a capable little camera. Wish list: X-T1 and X100s black.

RE: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell [...] X-T1 and X100s black. The 56/1.2 looks pretty cool: http://cdn0.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net//art/cameras/Fujifilm /Fuji%20X- T1/Product%20Shots/Fuji_X-T1_34-580-90.jpg or

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Miserere
Marnie, You mean the X-E2? There is an X-M1 (not X-M2) but it doesn't have a viewfinder. The guts of the X-E2 and X-T1 are very similar: Same sensor and image processing engine, and probably same AF algorithms (at least once they release new firmware for the X-E2). The EVF on the X-T1 is larger

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread Miserere
Good point, Bob! Though 80 cormorants would make for a spikey camera... Cheers, --M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 29 January 2014 17:26, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: -Original

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-29 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 07:00:04PM +0200, Attila Boros wrote: It's a very nice body, similar to OM-D E-M1. I don't mind EVF, the latest iterations are quite good. Magnification could be better though. I'm not planning to get a mirrorless system, but now it would be a tough choice between this

OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: Everyone else is welcome too, of course :-) http://www.fujirumors.com/wake-up-its-real-x-t1-announced-live-blogging- press-realease-pre-orders-and-more/ A digital LX? (Yeah, I know it's only APS-C, but this is a legitimate question.) Yes it

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, but arguably, sir, you get to keep your hat uneaten... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 28/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: Everyone else is welcome too, of course :-)

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, but arguably, sir, you get to keep your hat uneaten... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 28/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: Everyone else is welcome too, of course :-)

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Looks like a nicely designed body, similar aesthetic to the Nikon Df with many discrete dials, buttons and knobs. I hope it has an up to date EVF (on par with the Sony A7/A7r or Olympus E-M1) and feels good in the hand. I know Fuji's lenses are generally quite good; they're building up a decent

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Nice, but I won't buy one until they come out with a Full Frame model. Wah, wah, wah! ;-) On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone else is welcome too, of course :-)

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Kind of looks like someone took parts of Sony's new FF mirrorless, and the Olympus OM-D, (doesn't matter which one really), and built a new camera out of the parts around an APS-C sensor. From the front it looks a lot like a nice compact film SLR from the late 80's before AutoFocus took

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Miserere
For those that are wondering, a size comparison with the K-3: http://j.mp/1f8Xz5k Pretty similar from the front, but take a look from the top; big difference there. And Cotty, I assume you saw the EVF size comparison on the DPR preview:

RE: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: 28 January 2014 20:34 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out! For those that are wondering, a size comparison with the K-3: http://j.mp/1f8Xz5k

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/1/14, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: For those that are wondering, a size comparison with the K-3: http://j.mp/1f8Xz5k Pretty similar from the front, but take a look from the top; big difference there. And Cotty, I assume you saw the EVF size comparison on the DPR preview:

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/1/14, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: And I'm really not interested in an EVF, however hard they push it. I am, slowly being won around. This one is OLED and supposedly one-tenth of the lag rate of previous incarnations... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Bill
On 28/01/2014 2:33 PM, Miserere wrote: http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/previews/fujifilm-x-t1/images/vf-sizes.jpg?v=2721 Fuji is trying really hard to make me part with my hard-earned money... Not having seen an EVF that doesn't make me hurl, I will probably like this camera from afar.

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Bill
On 28/01/2014 3:29 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: If you prefer an SLR you've got to put the mirror box somewhere. The 17.7 registration distance of the X-mount keeps the camera thinner as well. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: And I'm really not interested in an EVF, however hard they push it. Same for me. For now. But I expect EVF's will eventually get as good as optical viewfinders and will replace them – the elimination of the moving mirror, prism, etc. will make the cost reduction irresistible

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Bill
On 28/01/2014 6:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: And I'm really not interested in an EVF, however hard they push it. Same for me. For now. But I expect EVF's will eventually get as good as optical viewfinders and will replace them – the elimination of the moving mirror, prism, etc.

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Miserere
Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2014 6:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: And I'm really not interested in an EVF, however hard they push it. Same for me. For now. But I expect EVF's will eventually get as good as optical viewfinders and will replace them – the

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Miserere
Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, but I won't buy one until they come out with a Full Frame model. Wah, wah, wah! ;-) On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone else is welcome too, of course :-)

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread P.J. Alling
We haven't seen a lot of cost reduction so far from using EVFs. Take for example two roughly equivalent cameras an EVF Olympus OM-D EM-1 at 16mp and the K-5II. The cameras spec sheets are very similar, weather sealed, Magnesium alloy bodies, With really about equal IQ, both have weather

Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Since the Fuji cameras were designed from the beginning with an APS-C sensor and a whole new lens mount so there is no existing base of lenses designed with a big enough image circle to cover a 24x36mm sensor, Demanding a FF solution is worse than silly. It would be like demanding that

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't believe in the notion that EVFs are primarily intended to be cost reduction. At the present time, they represent the second most expensive single component in these cameras, the primary imager sensor itself being the first most expensive. Inexpensive pentaprism viewfinder technology is

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-28 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Just another argument in favor of a FF DSLR from Pentax. bigger and brighter viewfinder. On 1/29/2014 1:30 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't believe in the notion that EVFs are primarily intended to be cost reduction. At the present time, they represent the second most expensive single

Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-01-27 Thread Miserere
Everyone else is welcome too, of course :-) http://www.fujirumors.com/wake-up-its-real-x-t1-announced-live-blogging-press-realease-pre-orders-and-more/ A digital LX? (Yeah, I know it's only APS-C, but this is a legitimate question.) Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ --