Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/6/2010 4:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little 12Mpix sensor. As for DR, the 7D is bye bye. Oh, D700 is also. Damn. And that 60D is... well almost a toy. K5 sealing is

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/6/2010 4:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little 12Mpix sensor. As for DR, the 7D is bye bye. Oh,

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/7/2010 3:14 PM, Adam Maas wrote: You can with a $10 adapter, as long as the lens has an aperture ring. During my brief foray into the land of Canon digital I mostly shot with a Nikkor 20/2.8 on my 10D. In fact adapted lenses on Canon are slightly more functional than pre-A K mount lenses

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I know that EF-S body takes most K mount lenses via adapter. Not so are the 24x36 Canon bodies, as my understanding that mirror may hit the aperture actuation lever of the lens... Boris The non-EF-S bodies are safe once

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
However, Adam, my original point was that the fact that new camera of one system (K-5) outdoes similar cameras of other systems (7D, D300s, etc) has only limited relevance. More often people don't shoot via adapters and the fact that neighbor's grass has been recolored in greener color is just

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Thibouille
2010/11/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 11/6/2010 4:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little 12Mpix sensor. As for DR, the 7D is bye bye. Oh, D700 is also. Damn. And

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 11/6/2010 4:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/7/2010 11:11 PM, Thibouille wrote: I don't think so. It is relevant because people are subject to change system. A lot of people changed system because of sensors specs (two other usual would be lenses and AF performance). We're talking bodies, not systems. Oh, that did not occur to me

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/8/2010 2:29 AM, Adam Maas wrote: A basic system that's fully capable (say 2-3 zooms and a fast prime or two) is eminently open to switching. Mark! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:37 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam Of course some of that is based on assumption. Paul Only the

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:05 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Thibouille wrote: 2010/11/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:21 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 November 2010 09:05, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's assumptions based on hardware, and it's obviously not the result of testing. I guess

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-06 Thread Thibouille
First I should have placed a smilie at the end 'cos my comment was partly tong in cheek (but partly only). Second, you're both right and wrong. As for Video/flash there's I think not even a question the Canon is better. For AF it is too early. Guessing is guessing and should not be found in a

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: First I should have placed a smilie at the end 'cos my comment was partly tong in cheek (but partly only). Second, you're both right and wrong. As for Video/flash there's I think not even a question the Canon is better.

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Thibouille
What exactly does the 7D adds to a K-5 if not a stupidly higher price tag ? I don't get it... 2010/11/5 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: No, Canon lacks a direct competitor, the K-5 slots in between the 7D and the 60D but offers better build sealing than either in a package smaller than the 60D (which

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Guys, what if you lowered the tone. Everyone can have their opinion and let us not start yet another brand vs brand silliness... K-5 is most capable camera but it is not the *only* one out there. Boris On 11/5/2010 5:54 PM, Thibouille wrote: What exactly does the 7D adds to a K-5 if not a

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Accuracy be damned I guess. Well, OK, that was snarky. Lets just say that was probably the most useless test ever. On 11/4/2010 12:30 PM, Miserere wrote: On 3 November 2010 21:33, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've heard a few

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread P. J. Alling
All DLSR's are direct competetors of each other, or not, depends on how you look at it. It's in a different market segment. On 11/4/2010 8:31 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The 5DmII is a direct competitor to the K5, yes? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Adam Maasa...@mawz.ca wrote: The

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Walter Gilbert
But do any of them have the soul of an Olympus? I think not. -- Walt On 11/5/2010 12:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: All DLSR's are direct competetors of each other, or not, depends on how you look at it. It's in a different market segment. On 11/4/2010 8:31 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Thibouille
I just asked. Some people here love to point how things are (supposedly), not how they think they are. Not that it news in anyway, mind you. 2010/11/5 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Guys, what if you lowered the tone. Everyone can have their opinion and let us not start yet another brand vs

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
My E-P1 has a tiny EVIL soul. ;-) On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  But do any of them have the soul of an Olympus? I think not. -- Walt On 11/5/2010 12:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: All DLSR's are direct competetors of each other, or not, depends

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Adam Maas
Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: What exactly does the 7D adds to a K-5 if not a stupidly higher price tag ? I don't get it... 2010/11/5 Adam Maas

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam Of course some of that is based on assumption. Paul On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: What exactly

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Thibouille
2010/11/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam Of course some of that is based on assumption. Paul Can't see where. -- Thibault

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Thibouille wrote: 2010/11/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam Of course some of that is based on

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 November 2010 09:05, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's assumptions based on hardware, and it's obviously not the result of testing. I guess we'll just have to watch how many top end cinematographers embrace the K5 like they have the Canons. -- Rob Studdert (Digital 

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 November 2010 09:05, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's assumptions based on hardware, and it's obviously not the result of testing. I guess we'll just have to watch how many top end cinematographers embrace the K5

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-05 Thread P. J. Alling
My MX has does, It keeps it in a little jar. So precious... On 11/5/2010 12:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: But do any of them have the soul of an Olympus? I think not. -- Walt On 11/5/2010 12:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: All DLSR's are direct competetors of each other, or not, depends on

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Miserere
On 3 November 2010 21:33, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've heard a few nice comments about the K5 AF.  Thus far I've treated them like UFO sightings, but maybe. . . Pentax has conditioned us to set our AF expectations so low that

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
It sounds pretty good. I wonder what the pictures look like. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 November 2010 21:33, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've heard a few nice comments about the K5 AF.  

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Miserere
On 4 November 2010 17:18, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds pretty good.  I wonder what the pictures look like. Who cares? The point is, it focuses faster. Get with the program, dude. --M. --     \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com     http://EnticingTheLight.com    

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread drd1135
@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II On 4 November 2010 17:18, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds pretty good.  I wonder what the pictures look like. Who cares? The point is, it focuses faster. Get

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Maas
The 5DmII's AF is a sore point for Canon shooters. The high ISO on the other hand is excellent. -Adam On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I rarely read Pentax forum, but I did today since I'm curious about their k-5 posts. This guy claims to be a Canon

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
The 5DmII is a direct competitor to the K5, yes? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: The 5DmII's AF is a sore point for Canon shooters. The high ISO on the other hand is excellent. -Adam On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The 5DmII is a direct competitor to the K5, yes? No, the 5D mII isn't a competitor. It's a 24 x 36 sensor and considerably more expensive at about $2500. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: The 5DmII's AF is a

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Maas
No, Canon lacks a direct competitor, the K-5 slots in between the 7D and the 60D but offers better build sealing than either in a package smaller than the 60D (which is rather compact already). The 5DmII is Canon's highest-end non-pro body and costs around $1000 more than a K5 while offering

k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-03 Thread P N Stenquist
I rarely read Pentax forum, but I did today since I'm curious about their k-5 posts. This guy claims to be a Canon shooter and says the K-5 autofocus is superior. I haven't tested the autofocus enough to determine how good it is, but I have yet to experience a problem. Interesting that

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
P N Stenquist wrote: I rarely read Pentax forum, but I did today since I'm curious about their k-5 posts. This guy claims to be a Canon shooter and says the K-5 autofocus is superior. I haven't tested the autofocus enough to determine how good it is, but I have yet to experience a problem.

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've heard a few nice comments about the K5 AF. Thus far I've treated them like UFO sightings, but maybe. . . On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: P N Stenquist wrote: I rarely read Pentax forum, but I did today since I'm curious about  their k-5

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've heard a few nice comments about the K5 AF. Thus far I've treated them like UFO sightings, but maybe. . . Pentax has conditioned us to set our AF expectations so low that anything that focuses within an hour in anything less than

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Werd. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've heard a few nice comments about the K5 AF.  Thus far I've treated them like UFO sightings, but maybe. . . Pentax has conditioned us to set our AF expectations