Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-18 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 18, 2017, at 2:08 PM, John wrote: > > On 12/18/2017 12:14, Eric Weir wrote: >>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John wrote: >>> >>> I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release >>> granting them permission to

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-18 Thread John
On 12/18/2017 12:14, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John wrote: I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release granting them permission to print the images (save them a hassle from any photolab they might ask to make the

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-18 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John wrote: > > I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release > granting them permission to print the images (save them a hassle from any > photolab they might ask to make the prints). Wondering if there’s a

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/12/17, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >- Make a set of JPEGs of the best ones for them. A reasonable size that >they can put on their phones, essentially, something like 1600 pixels on >the long edge works well. > >- Forget delivering raw files to anyone who is not a

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:43 PM, John wrote: > > USB would work fine. If you're putting any kind of watermark or copyright > notice on the images, you definitely want to give them the copyright release > because a lot of labs like Walmart, CVS, Costco won't allow them

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:38 PM, John wrote: > > The sensor in our DSLRs have a ratio of 2:3 > > Hi-res means the image can be printed at 300dpi. Size the images to 2400x3600 > and they can print any size up to 8"x12". > > Lo-res images are displayed on a computer

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Thanks again, Mark. Hopefully one last puzzlement. You suggest 6-megapixel >> images but also 2000 X 6000 pixels, which is 12-magapixels. > > Sorry. I meant 2000 x 3000 > >> And by consumer printers I take it

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > - ALWAYS curate what you show them FIRST to be your best work, and show them > the FINISHED work, not "work in progress." > - ONLY offer what shows your work off in the best light. > > [IR: It's been formulated

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > 1. I have a policy: I never give RAW files to anybody. (In the film era, I've > never given negatives to anybody, with just one exception for a close friend > of mine per a special agreement). > I would only

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread John
On 12/13/2017 18:25, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John wrote: I would burn the images to a CD/DVD. Provide hi-res JPEG files they can print and lo-res copies in case they want to post them to Facebook or other social media. I would also include a

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread John
The sensor in our DSLRs have a ratio of 2:3 Hi-res means the image can be printed at 300dpi. Size the images to 2400x3600 and they can print any size up to 8"x12". Lo-res images are displayed on a computer screen at 72dpi. I'd go 800x1200 just to make the math simple. On 12/13/2017 18:01,

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> Don't worry about setting ppi. Consumer printers will handle that by >> themselves when the customer chooses a print size (and I've printed up >> to 12 x 18 from 6MP ist-D files). For

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Don't worry about setting ppi. Consumer printers will handle that by > themselves when the customer chooses a print size (and I've printed up > to 12 x 18 from 6MP ist-D files). For phones and tablets the

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John wrote: > > I would burn the images to a CD/DVD. Provide hi-res JPEG files they can > print and lo-res copies in case they want to post them to Facebook or other > social media. > > I would also include a text file on the disk with

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Weir wrote: >> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Mark Roberts >> wrote: >> >> Downsize everything to 2000 x 6000 pixels >> Convert to sRGB color space >> Give 'em hi res JPEGs and wash your hands of it. >> >> The 6-megapixel size will work on most phones and

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > I’m a bit unclear about the relation of pixel size and print size. I have Lightroom export specifications specified in different ways. One is for an image 4 X 6 inches with 300 pixels per inch. I take it that would be

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread John
I would burn the images to a CD/DVD. Provide hi-res JPEG files they can print and lo-res copies in case they want to post them to Facebook or other social media. I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release granting them permission to print the images (save them a

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Ken got it right. High quality hi-res jpegs are fine for making prints. Both > low-res and hi-res should be in SRGB color space. Don’t release RAW files, > even if someone requests them. The RAWs are your negatives,

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Downsize everything to 2000 x 6000 pixels > Convert to sRGB color space > Give 'em hi res JPEGs and wash your hands of it. > > The 6-megapixel size will work on most phones and tablets (my tablet's > native

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Weir
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Long experience delivering prints and image files to clients says to me: > - ALWAYS curate what you show them FIRST to be your best work, and show them > the FINISHED work, not "work in progress." > - ONLY offer what

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ken got it right. High quality hi-res jpegs are fine for making prints. Both low-res and hi-res should be in SRGB color space. Don’t release RAW files, even if someone requests them. The RAWs are your negatives, and public images should reflect your rendering. Paul > On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:39

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Ken Waller
FWIW, suggest you provide jpegs in two versions - low res for use on phones and computer and high res suitable for printing and not provide the RAW files. -Original Message- >From: Eric Weir >Subject: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client" > > >My

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Weir wrote: > >My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have >not printed a single image. > >Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college >graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high honors.) >I’ve weeded

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Godfrey made several very good points. I had been thinking about some of them myself, but forgot to add to my response. And I would like to highlight a few of them, very nicely formulated by Godfrey with minor comments from myself: Godfrey DiGiorgi Wed, 13 Dec 2017 09:04:52 -0800 wrote:

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Eric, 1. I have a policy: I never give RAW files to anybody. (In the film era, I've never given negatives to anybody, with just one exception for a close friend of mine per a special agreement). I would only consider giving RAW files in very special cases. Several photographers that I know

Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

2017-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
First: Is this for pay or as a gift? In either case, talk to them, show them the photographs, and ask if they'd like any. Presuming they say yes... - Make a set of JPEGs of the best ones for them. A reasonable size that they can put on their phones, essentially, something like 1600 pixels on