Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
The lease holders didn't want more help from Bridgeport, they had solutions for fire, police, and medical emergencies. The issue was more I think that they made Bridgeport's services look bad. They paid their taxes and took almost nothing from the City. None of the people there were really rich, which was part of the problem, no pull in the system. Just a bunch of middle class people enjoying their version of Nantucket the way it was before being truly discovered, a stone's throw from a place that has been described as 'Bilgeport', and 'the armpit of Connecticut'. On 8/9/2018 11:34 AM, John Sessoms wrote: On 8/8/2018 14:37, Rick Womer wrote: Odd. Got to them using my iPhone. Well done gallery; it makes me wonder what the Bridgeport government was thinking. Rick My guess is they didn't have the $20 plus million a replacement bridge was going to cost and couldn't justify spending taxpayer's money to benefit so few people. And while the question of how to restore public access was in limbo, the squatters, ravers, vandals & hooligans burned down too many of the island structures. Neither Bridgeport nor Stratford, CT had the additional police & fire resources needed to protect the area. Every time another structure was destroyed the "costs" went up and the "benefits" went down. Eventually it reached the point where there was no point in trying to save the houses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_Beach Plus, Stratford wanted to demolish the cottages they owned on their end of the peninsula so they could sell the land to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service for inclusion in the Stewart B. McKinney National Wildlife Refuge. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
On 8/8/2018 14:37, Rick Womer wrote: Odd. Got to them using my iPhone. Well done gallery; it makes me wonder what the Bridgeport government was thinking. Rick My guess is they didn't have the $20 plus million a replacement bridge was going to cost and couldn't justify spending taxpayer's money to benefit so few people. And while the question of how to restore public access was in limbo, the squatters, ravers, vandals & hooligans burned down too many of the island structures. Neither Bridgeport nor Stratford, CT had the additional police & fire resources needed to protect the area. Every time another structure was destroyed the "costs" went up and the "benefits" went down. Eventually it reached the point where there was no point in trying to save the houses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_Beach Plus, Stratford wanted to demolish the cottages they owned on their end of the peninsula so they could sell the land to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service for inclusion in the Stewart B. McKinney National Wildlife Refuge. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
Well, the swing bridge that served as the only land vehicle access to the area was one of the last wooden bridges in Connecticut, was 'accidentally' set on fire sometime in the 80's and was no longer in use. Bridgeport refused to repair it, because it would cost more than the revenue from the leased lands. The residents by the way all had access to their properties by boat, there was even a water taxi service for those who didn't own a boat. Bridgeport said they couldn't supply basic services to the area, so the locals set up their own voluntary organizations to fill the gap, even bought a small fire boat, set up a neighborhood watch, etc. which made the area pretty much self sufficient. Emergency evacuation was said to be a problem as well.* Those were the main reasons given for not renewing the leases. I suspect that there were other reasons, not the least of which is that pleasure beach didn't need Bridgeport's government at all... * On the other hand it's not the 1930's, storms don't sneak up on us like the 38 hurricane, we get days of warning. On 8/8/2018 2:37 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Odd. Got to them using my iPhone. Well done gallery; it makes me wonder what the Bridgeport government was thinking. Rick On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't know how to fix that, I'm misusing dropbox, at least according to them, and updog is an app that lets you use dropbox through them as a server. It's free so I expect no support beyond faqs and howtos, neither of which seem to cover this. Sorry about that. On 8/7/2018 4:33 PM, Rick Womer wrote: PJ, Safari can't open the tinyurl either. Firefox gives me the message "Secure Connection Failed The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'd also like to apologize that all the back links in that gallery seem to be broken. On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
Odd. Got to them using my iPhone. Well done gallery; it makes me wonder what the Bridgeport government was thinking. Rick On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I don't know how to fix that, I'm misusing dropbox, at least according to > them, and updog is an app that lets you use dropbox through them as a > server. It's free so I expect no support beyond faqs and howtos, neither of > which seem to cover this. Sorry about that. > > > > On 8/7/2018 4:33 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> >> PJ, >> >> Safari can't open the tinyurl either. >> >> Firefox gives me the message >> >> "Secure Connection Failed >> >> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. >> >> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the >> authenticity of the received data could not be verified. >> Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem." >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling >> wrote: >>> >>> I'd also like to apologize that all the back links in that gallery seem >>> to >>> be broken. >>> >>> >>> On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html >>> -- >>> America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. >>> America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. >>> - P.J. O'Rourke >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
I don't know how to fix that, I'm misusing dropbox, at least according to them, and updog is an app that lets you use dropbox through them as a server. It's free so I expect no support beyond faqs and howtos, neither of which seem to cover this. Sorry about that. On 8/7/2018 4:33 PM, Rick Womer wrote: PJ, Safari can't open the tinyurl either. Firefox gives me the message "Secure Connection Failed The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'd also like to apologize that all the back links in that gallery seem to be broken. On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
Well that worked for me -- very moving documentary - I looked at it before reading your history of it - Pictures worth a thousand words- thought maybe it was storm damage before abandonment... Good stuff, P.J. ann On 8/7/2018 1:24 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The URL probably broke when it went to two lines try this: https://tinyurl.com/yc4bphhl On 8/7/2018 9:31 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Neither page will open with either Safari or Firefox. Rick On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To get it off the city books the it was transferred to the Federal Government as a wild life refuge. Not much in the way of endangered species, in that area, but if anything goes wrong the city, isn't responsible, so I guess they consider it a win. On 8/6/2018 5:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Fascinating. Well done. Who owns the property now? Paul On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Sorry about that, the index page is here: https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
PJ, Safari can't open the tinyurl either. Firefox gives me the message "Secure Connection Failed The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I'd also like to apologize that all the back links in that gallery seem to > be broken. > > > On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> Another old GESO, now with a working url. >> >> Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city >> decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their >> homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so >> they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years >> of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. >> >> >> https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html >> > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
I'd also like to apologize that all the back links in that gallery seem to be broken. On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
The URL probably broke when it went to two lines try this: https://tinyurl.com/yc4bphhl On 8/7/2018 9:31 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Neither page will open with either Safari or Firefox. Rick On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To get it off the city books the it was transferred to the Federal Government as a wild life refuge. Not much in the way of endangered species, in that area, but if anything goes wrong the city, isn't responsible, so I guess they consider it a win. On 8/6/2018 5:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Fascinating. Well done. Who owns the property now? Paul On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Sorry about that, the index page is here: https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
Neither page will open with either Safari or Firefox. Rick On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > To get it off the city books the it was transferred to the Federal > Government as a wild life refuge. Not much in the way of endangered > species, in that area, but if anything goes wrong the city, isn't > responsible, so I guess they consider it a win. > > > > On 8/6/2018 5:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> Fascinating. Well done. Who owns the property now? >> >> Paul >> >>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry about that, the index page is here: >>> https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html >>> >>> On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html >>> -- >>> America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. >>> America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. >>> - P.J. O'Rourke >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
To get it off the city books the it was transferred to the Federal Government as a wild life refuge. Not much in the way of endangered species, in that area, but if anything goes wrong the city, isn't responsible, so I guess they consider it a win. On 8/6/2018 5:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Fascinating. Well done. Who owns the property now? Paul On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Sorry about that, the index page is here: https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO -- Connecticut's Ghost Town
Fascinating. Well done. Who owns the property now? Paul > On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Sorry about that, the index page is here: > https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html > > >> On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> Another old GESO, now with a working url. >> >> Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city >> decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their >> homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so >> they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years >> of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. >> >> https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html >> >> > > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. >- P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry about that, the index page is here: https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html On 8/6/2018 4:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another old GESO, now with a working url. Bridgeport's pleasure Beach abandoned by the residents after the city decided to not renew the leases on the land upon which they had built their homes. Most expected to come back after the city was induced to renew, so they carefully boarded up their houses, but they lost that battle. 20 years of vandalism and nature have taken it's toll. https://pdml.updog.co/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/PESO%20--%20afterthefallv-s.html -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
