Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-11 Thread Jack Davis 
Sorry, Erc. Guess I missed your
K3ii comment.

J

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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:22 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent
> 
>> On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Your understanding of my post is
>> likely misunderstood due to my 
>> age.
>> I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
>> to glean an opinion or two about it's
>> shutter's burst rate capability.
>> Appreciate your effort Larry!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jack Davis wrote:
 Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting
>> in AFC? If so, what do you think of the
 
 frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>>> 
>>> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I
>> used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
>> makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
>> that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.
>>> 
>>> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every
>> other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
>> but not yet good.
>>> 
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
You must be reading it all on your
phone.(?)

J

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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> I don't do my own indenting. The
>> system makes those choices.
> 
> Exactly.  Some mail clients are braindead and don't show the proper chain of 
> replies when people follow the 30-40 year standard of inline replies to the 
> content rather than top-posting.
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Larry Colen 



Jack Davis wrote:

I don't do my own indenting. The
system makes those choices.


Exactly.  Some mail clients are braindead and don't show the proper 
chain of replies when people follow the 30-40 year standard of inline 
replies to the content rather than top-posting.


That has caused me problems on occasion when someone will only see the 
first line of my reply and their email client hides the actual meat of 
the discussion from them.



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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Larry Colen 



Jack Davis wrote:

I disabled "Distortion Correction."
a couple or three days ago.
Is that what your referencing, Larry?


Yes.  That was what was causing me lots of problems.



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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
I don't do my own indenting. The
system makes those choices.

J

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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about that.  Your attribution indents seem a bit weird, I wonder if you 
> actually saw my interspersed comments.
> 
> In any case the way I phrased it, now that I'm back at a real keyboard, is 
> that the K3-II makes the K1 frame rate seem sluggish.  In many ways it is 
> much better for action.  Do check to make sure that you aren't doing in 
> camera lens correction, that messed me up with the K-1 for about a year.
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Guess I lost you "somewhere
>> between "I have a K3, but am
>> curious about the frame rate of
>> a K3ll."
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:22 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent
>>> 
 On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
 Your understanding of my post is
 likely misunderstood due to my
 age.
 I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
 to glean an opinion or two about it's
 shutter's burst rate capability.
 Appreciate your effort Larry!
 
 J
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting
 in AFC? If so, what do you think of the
>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I
 used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
 makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
 that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.
> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every
 other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
 but not yet good.
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
I disabled "Distortion Correction."
a couple or three days ago.
Is that what your referencing, Larry?

J



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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about that.  Your attribution indents seem a bit weird, I wonder if you 
> actually saw my interspersed comments.
> 
> In any case the way I phrased it, now that I'm back at a real keyboard, is 
> that the K3-II makes the K1 frame rate seem sluggish.  In many ways it is 
> much better for action.  Do check to make sure that you aren't doing in 
> camera lens correction, that messed me up with the K-1 for about a year.
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Guess I lost you "somewhere
>> between "I have a K3, but am
>> curious about the frame rate of
>> a K3ll."
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:22 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent
>>> 
 On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
 Your understanding of my post is
 likely misunderstood due to my
 age.
 I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
 to glean an opinion or two about it's
 shutter's burst rate capability.
 Appreciate your effort Larry!
 
 J
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting
 in AFC? If so, what do you think of the
>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I
 used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
 makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
 that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.
> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every
 other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
 but not yet good.
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Larry Colen 
Sorry about that.  Your attribution indents seem a bit weird, I wonder 
if you actually saw my interspersed comments.


In any case the way I phrased it, now that I'm back at a real keyboard, 
is that the K3-II makes the K1 frame rate seem sluggish.  In many ways 
it is much better for action.  Do check to make sure that you aren't 
doing in camera lens correction, that messed me up with the K-1 for 
about a year.


Jack Davis wrote:

Guess I lost you "somewhere
between "I have a K3, but am
curious about the frame rate of
a K3ll."
J
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:22 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent


On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
Your understanding of my post is
likely misunderstood due to my
age.
I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
to glean an opinion or two about it's
shutter's burst rate capability.
Appreciate your effort Larry!

J



Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Jack Davis wrote:

Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting

in AFC? If so, what do you think of the

frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?

I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I

used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.

All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every

other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
but not yet good.

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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
Already tried that, P.J., but thanks!
J
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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:32 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Try setting the lens to manual focus and see that makes a difference.
> 
> 
>> On 4/9/2018 4:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Thanks, Mathew!
>>  AFS setting is Shutter Priority.
>> In this setting the focus is set in
>> the first frame and does not change
>> to follow the target even to hold
>> focus. Only to be used for a stationary target. It is stated in the
>> specs to fire at a rate of 8.3 frames
>> per second due to it's firing in
>> "fixed focus."
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is it possible that a camera setting is the problem?
>>> 
>>> The default setting for "Action in AF.C Continuous" (C3.17 in the menu
>>> system) is "Focus priority". That means the camera will prioritize getting
>>> the shot in focus, rather than shooting at the fastest rate. It might seem
>>> erratic or slow. You could try setting it to "FPS priority" and see if it
>>> works better for you. See page 45 of the manual for more information.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 
 Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC?
 If so, what do you think of the
 
 frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
 
 I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course,
 Auto ISO. I just wore out my K3 and
 
 am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement
 K3's. Returned the initial replacement
 
 due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the
 same with it's replacement.
 
 I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old
 and stiff for having sat around in
 
 boxes for 4 or 5 years.
 
 I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously
 wondering why that is.
 
 My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and
 care to let me know what you think
 
 about it.
 
 
 Thanks!
 
 
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread P. J. Alling 

Try setting the lens to manual focus and see that makes a difference.


On 4/9/2018 4:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Mathew!
  AFS setting is Shutter Priority.
In this setting the focus is set in
the first frame and does not change
to follow the target even to hold
focus. Only to be used for a stationary target. It is stated in the
specs to fire at a rate of 8.3 frames
per second due to it's firing in
"fixed focus."
J


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:

Is it possible that a camera setting is the problem?

The default setting for "Action in AF.C Continuous" (C3.17 in the menu
system) is "Focus priority". That means the camera will prioritize getting
the shot in focus, rather than shooting at the fastest rate. It might seem
erratic or slow. You could try setting it to "FPS priority" and see if it
works better for you. See page 45 of the manual for more information.




On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC?
If so, what do you think of the

frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?

I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course,
Auto ISO. I just wore out my K3 and

am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement
K3's. Returned the initial replacement

due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the
same with it's replacement.

I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old
and stiff for having sat around in

boxes for 4 or 5 years.

I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously
wondering why that is.

My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and
care to let me know what you think

about it.


Thanks!


J
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
Guess I lost you "somewhere
between "I have a K3, but am
curious about the frame rate of
a K3ll."
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:22 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent
> 
>> On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Your understanding of my post is
>> likely misunderstood due to my 
>> age.
>> I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
>> to glean an opinion or two about it's
>> shutter's burst rate capability.
>> Appreciate your effort Larry!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jack Davis wrote:
 Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting
>> in AFC? If so, what do you think of the
 
 frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>>> 
>>> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I
>> used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
>> makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
>> that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.
>>> 
>>> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every
>> other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
>> but not yet good.
>>> 
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
Thanks, Mathew!
 AFS setting is Shutter Priority.
In this setting the focus is set in
the first frame and does not change
to follow the target even to hold
focus. Only to be used for a stationary target. It is stated in the
specs to fire at a rate of 8.3 frames
per second due to it's firing in
"fixed focus."
J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible that a camera setting is the problem?
> 
> The default setting for "Action in AF.C Continuous" (C3.17 in the menu
> system) is "Focus priority". That means the camera will prioritize getting
> the shot in focus, rather than shooting at the fastest rate. It might seem
> erratic or slow. You could try setting it to "FPS priority" and see if it
> works better for you. See page 45 of the manual for more information.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC?
>> If so, what do you think of the
>> 
>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>> 
>> I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course,
>> Auto ISO. I just wore out my K3 and
>> 
>> am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement
>> K3's. Returned the initial replacement
>> 
>> due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the
>> same with it's replacement.
>> 
>> I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old
>> and stiff for having sat around in
>> 
>> boxes for 4 or 5 years.
>> 
>> I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously
>> wondering why that is.
>> 
>> My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and
>> care to let me know what you think
>> 
>> about it.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> J
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread lrc 
As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent

On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>Your understanding of my post is
>likely misunderstood due to my 
>age.
>I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
>to glean an opinion or two about it's
>shutter's burst rate capability.
>Appreciate your effort Larry!
>
>J
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jack Davis wrote:
>>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting
>in AFC? If so, what do you think of the
>>> 
>>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>> 
>> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I
>used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
>makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
>that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.
>> 
>> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every
>other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
>but not yet good.
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> I don't have a K3ll. I do have a K3.
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it possible that a camera setting is the problem?
>> 
>> The default setting for "Action in AF.C Continuous" (C3.17 in the menu
>> system) is "Focus priority". That means the camera will prioritize getting
>> the shot in focus, rather than shooting at the fastest rate. It might seem
>> erratic or slow. You could try setting it to "FPS priority" and see if it
>> works better for you. See page 45 of the manual for more information.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC?
>>> If so, what do you think of the
>>> 
>>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>>> 
>>> I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course,
>>> Auto ISO. I just wore out my K3 and
>>> 
>>> am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement
>>> K3's. Returned the initial replacement
>>> 
>>> due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the
>>> same with it's replacement.
>>> 
>>> I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old
>>> and stiff for having sat around in
>>> 
>>> boxes for 4 or 5 years.
>>> 
>>> I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously
>>> wondering why that is.
>>> 
>>> My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and
>>> care to let me know what you think
>>> 
>>> about it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> J
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
I don't have a K3ll. I do have a K3.
J
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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible that a camera setting is the problem?
> 
> The default setting for "Action in AF.C Continuous" (C3.17 in the menu
> system) is "Focus priority". That means the camera will prioritize getting
> the shot in focus, rather than shooting at the fastest rate. It might seem
> erratic or slow. You could try setting it to "FPS priority" and see if it
> works better for you. See page 45 of the manual for more information.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC?
>> If so, what do you think of the
>> 
>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>> 
>> I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course,
>> Auto ISO. I just wore out my K3 and
>> 
>> am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement
>> K3's. Returned the initial replacement
>> 
>> due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the
>> same with it's replacement.
>> 
>> I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old
>> and stiff for having sat around in
>> 
>> boxes for 4 or 5 years.
>> 
>> I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously
>> wondering why that is.
>> 
>> My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and
>> care to let me know what you think
>> 
>> about it.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> J
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Matthew Hunt 
Is it possible that a camera setting is the problem?

The default setting for "Action in AF.C Continuous" (C3.17 in the menu
system) is "Focus priority". That means the camera will prioritize getting
the shot in focus, rather than shooting at the fastest rate. It might seem
erratic or slow. You could try setting it to "FPS priority" and see if it
works better for you. See page 45 of the manual for more information.



On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC?
> If so, what do you think of the
>
> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>
> I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course,
> Auto ISO. I just wore out my K3 and
>
> am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement
> K3's. Returned the initial replacement
>
> due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the
> same with it's replacement.
>
> I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old
> and stiff for having sat around in
>
> boxes for 4 or 5 years.
>
> I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously
> wondering why that is.
>
> My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and
> care to let me know what you think
>
> about it.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> J
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
That could be it, P. J. Good call!
Am still waiting for an opinion re
the "H" shutter speed(?)

J

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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:58 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I think that the reason the K3 sells for more than the K3II is the pop up 
> flash.  It can be very convenient, and while GPS which replaces it would be 
> very useful in a number of applications, it really isn't that important in 
> most shooting situations, whereas when you need a little extra light, you 
> definitely need a little extra light.  In most every other way the K3II looks 
> like the superior body.
> 
> Modern lubricants shouldn't be causing the the erratic behavior in drive 
> speed, which is what used to be what causes cameras sitting in boxes to 
> stiffen up over time.  If it did you'd probably also notice serious exposure 
> problems.  I expect something else is happening.
> 
> Silly question, did you upgrade the "new" cameras to the latest firmware?
> 
> 
>> On 4/9/2018 11:05 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC? 
>> If so, what do you think of the
>> 
>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>> 
>> I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course, Auto 
>> ISO. I just wore out my K3 and
>> 
>> am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement 
>> K3's. Returned the initial replacement
>> 
>> due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the 
>> same with it's replacement.
>> 
>> I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old 
>> and stiff for having sat around in
>> 
>> boxes for 4 or 5 years.
>> 
>> I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously 
>> wondering why that is.
>> 
>> My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and 
>> care to let me know what you think
>> 
>> about it.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> J
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread P. J. Alling 
I think that the reason the K3 sells for more than the K3II is the pop 
up flash.  It can be very convenient, and while GPS which replaces it 
would be very useful in a number of applications, it really isn't that 
important in most shooting situations, whereas when you need a little 
extra light, you definitely need a little extra light.  In most every 
other way the K3II looks like the superior body.


Modern lubricants shouldn't be causing the the erratic behavior in drive 
speed, which is what used to be what causes cameras sitting in boxes to 
stiffen up over time.  If it did you'd probably also notice serious 
exposure problems.  I expect something else is happening.


Silly question, did you upgrade the "new" cameras to the latest firmware?


On 4/9/2018 11:05 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC? If 
so, what do you think of the

frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?

I regularly use TAv setting with a 2000 to 2500 shutter and, of course, Auto 
ISO. I just wore out my K3 and

am attempting to replace it with another. I've received two replacement K3's. 
Returned the initial replacement

due to a sluggish and slow AFC frame rate and am now considering doing the same 
with it's replacement.

I see the date 2013 in the K3 literature and can imagine their getting old and 
stiff for having sat around in

boxes for 4 or 5 years.

I see the K3 is priced slightly higher than the newer K3ll. Obviously wondering 
why that is.

My question is, have you used the described high speed shutter setting and care 
to let me know what you think

about it.


Thanks!


J


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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Jack Davis 
Your understanding of my post is
likely misunderstood due to my 
age.
I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
to glean an opinion or two about it's
shutter's burst rate capability.
Appreciate your effort Larry!

J



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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC? 
>> If so, what do you think of the
>> 
>> frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
> 
> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I used it a 
> lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It makes the K-1 
> seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at that frame rate the 
> buffer would be full in no time.
> 
> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every other Pentax 
> DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better, but not yet good.
> 
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Re: Pentax K3ll

2018-04-09 Thread Larry Colen 



Jack Davis wrote:

Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting in AFC? If 
so, what do you think of the

frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?


I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I used 
it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It makes 
the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at that 
frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.


All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every other 
Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better, but not 
yet good.


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