[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8640] Re: Natural

2015-05-18 Thread Howard Pattee
At 10:38 AM 5/18/2015, Benjamin Udell wrote: Howard, you wrote, If one thinks this way, then every physical event is a measurement. That won't work for an empiricist. [End quote] I've held off on replying because I didn't understand that remark and I've blamed myself.  Could you elaborate a b

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8644] Re: Natural

2015-05-18 Thread Vinicius Romanini
OK, Gary F. No need to go into such deepness. My remark was mostly accidental. As I said, I follow and agree with your opinion on the core argument. V. 2015-05-18 18:22 GMT-03:00 Gary Fuhrman : > Vinicius, you wrote, > > > > [[ I meant to say that a sign must be general (a type or legisign) > whe

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8644] Re: Natural

2015-05-18 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Vinicius, you wrote, [[ I meant to say that a sign must be general (a type or legisign) whenever it represents dynamic objects such as natural classes, laws of nature and fictious entities such as mathematical objects. ]] Agreed. Such objects are hypostatic abstractions, I’d say, so I wou

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8642] Re: Natural

2015-05-18 Thread Vinicius Romanini
Dear Gary F. I see your point and understand it as you describe the origins of propositions in perceptual judgements. But I did not mean to say that a dynamic object is general just because we have a concept usually associated with a word. I meant to say that a sign must be general (a type or leg

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8642] Re: Natural

2015-05-18 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Vinicius, (and I’m copying this to the Peirce list as it may be of interest there), Yes, I was oversimplifying a bit for the sake of emphasis. I’m trying to follow Peirce’s usage of these terms, and there are some contexts where he speaks of general objects. But mainly I had in mind contexts

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8551] Re: Natural

2015-05-18 Thread Benjamin Udell
Howard, lists, Howard, you wrote, If one thinks this way, then every physical event is a measurement. That won't work for an empiricist. [End quote] I've held off on replying because I didn't understand that remark and I've blamed myself. Could you elaborate a bit on it? What does