OK, Gary F. No need to go into such deepness. My remark was mostly accidental. As I said, I follow and agree with your opinion on the core argument. V.
2015-05-18 18:22 GMT-03:00 Gary Fuhrman <g...@gnusystems.ca>: > Vinicius, you wrote, > > > > [[ I meant to say that a sign must be general (a type or legisign) > whenever it represents dynamic objects such as natural classes, laws of > nature and fictious entities such as mathematical objects. ]] > > > > Agreed. Such objects are hypostatic abstractions, I’d say, so I wouldn’t > even argue against calling them “general objects” as you did before. But I > think we’re getting into abstruse territory here, compared to the context > of my dialogue with Stan. I’m still feeling my way around Peirce’s “Ten > Main Trichotomies” (especially those he was tentative about himself), but I > have no hesitation in affirming the difference between an *actual* > observation (as an instance of sense perception) and the *representation* > of that instance (which assigns to its singular subject a general > predicate, and thus constructs a “fact”). > > > > Gary f. > > > > *From:* Vinicius Romanini [mailto:vinir...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* May 18, 2015 3:48 PM > *To:* Gary Fuhrman > *Cc:* biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; Peirce-L 1 > *Subject:* [biosemiotics:8644] Re: Natural > > > > Dear Gary F. > > > > I see your point and understand it as you describe the origins of > propositions in perceptual judgements. > > > > But I did not mean to say that a dynamic object is general just because we > have a concept usually associated with a word. I meant to say that a sign > must be general (a type or legisign) whenever it represents dynamic objects > such as natural classes, laws of nature and fictious entities such as > mathematical objects. > > > > On the other hand, Peirce does say that dynamic objects might be natural > classes such as mankind, the human race etc (he calls them collectives). > And he also says that types (legisigns) must necessarily represent > collectives. (see EP 2: 489). > > > > Vinicius > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > > -- Vinicius Romanini, Ph.D. Professor of Communication Studies School of Communications and Arts University of Sao Paulo, Brazil www.minutesemeiotic.org www.semeiosis.com.br Skype:vinicius_romanini
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