Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Mike, List: As it happens, I am currently in the process of reading and transcribing R 1343, "Of the Classification of the Sciences, Second Paper, Of the Practical Sciences," once again thanks to the SPIN project ( http://fromthepage.com/collection/show?collection_id=16). So far, about 40 pages

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Mike Bergman
Fantastic, Jon. That would be most helpful, especially since that is "new" information. Mike On 9/29/2016 11:32 AM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: Mike, List: As it happens, I am currently in the process of reading and

[PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Mike Bergman
Hi List, Ben Udell recently quoted from this Peirce memoir: MEMOIR   27: OF METHODEUTIC [] From Draft B - MS L75.279-280 [] Two other problems of methodeutic which the old logics usually made almost its only

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-29 Thread Helmut Raulien
Dear list members, I am not sure if this helps: I think, to say: "All beans from the bag are white, these beans are white, so these beans are from the bag" is an abduction. But to say: "All beans from the bag are white, these beans are white, so it is possible that they are from the bag" is sort

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Mike, List: I am afraid that you should not get your hopes up about that other chapter appearing later in R 1343. I am pretty sure that it only contains a single intended chapter, but I will let you know if I discover otherwise. I am mainly interested in seeing what (if anything) Peirce had to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Jerry Rhee
Hi Mike, list: Here is something by Peir...uh, I mean Plato and Emerson. If only Peirce, then it should be treated as new information. *"For everything that exists there are three instruments by which the knowledge of it is necessarily imparted; fourth, there is the knowledge itself, and, as

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Mike, List: Glad to be of service! In the meantime, you might review Peirce's extensive discussion of "natural classes" and "natural classification" at CP 1.203-231. Regards, Jon On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Mike Bergman wrote: > Fantastic, Jon. That would be most

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Mike, List: Here is the most pertinent portion of R 1343 that I have transcribed so far. It appears on pages 11-17 of the manuscript. Classification is one of the subjects of which Logic has to treat. We must here confine ourselves to such considerations as are almost axiomatic and are

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Mike Bergman
Jon, Ben, List, This is fantastic! Thanks for checking your notes so quickly. Two things come immediately to mind: 1) Peirce states, "It will be demonstrated in the chapter on classification . . ." I hope in your continued transcription that such a chapter so

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Helmut, List: I appreciate the comment, but I do not think that your example qualifies as a genuine deduction. It is not *necessarily* true that "it is possible that they are from the bag"; it might, in fact, be *impossible *for some reason, presumably having nothing to do with the color of the

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-29 Thread Jerry Rhee
Helmut, list: I think you’ve said something profound. You said: "So making an abduction is not pragmaticism (given that pragmaticism is deductive). But talking about abduction is, because it includes a deduction." I think listers will object to your “abduction is not pragmaticism because

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Jerry Rhee
Ben, list: Thank you for that contribution! I wish to extend that conversation: “How can a creature so place himself at the point of view of his Creator?” “The natural way of doing this is to start from the things which are more knowable and obvious to us and proceed towards those which are

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Principles of Classification?

2016-09-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Also see Peirce discussing the difference between logical classification and natural classification in "Triadomany", CP 1.568-572 http://www.textlog.de/4336.html Best, Ben On 9/29/2016 2:19 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: Mike, List: Glad to be of service! In the meantime, you might review