other than the
Democratic and Republican ones to begin with?
of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and
rightly so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...
Have you actually looked into all
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 3:03 AM
At 1:03 AM -0400 8/11/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and
rightly so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...
Have you
Nader For President 2004
P.O. Box 18002 - Washington, DC 20036 - www.VoteNader.org
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For Further Information:
August 10, 2004 Kevin Zeese 202-265-4000
Nader: Is there no end to Kerry's Me-Too-ism with Bush on Iraq?
Washington, D.C.: Independent Candidate Ralph Nader today
make or alter state regulations...
query 1: what became of nader's announcement a few months ago that he
was going to establish a 'populist' party...
query 2: reform party 'endorsement' of nader preceded his selection of
camejo as running mate, any listers know whether reform endorsement
KPFA had a debate between Cobb Camejo regarding the charge of the rigged
convention. It did not sound nearly as clear cut as it was presented here.
I was once on a jury panel for Camejo, but was kicked off left with a clenched fist
salute. I liked what he did when I was at Berkeley, but in
://www.counterpunch.org/kerry02172004.html
===
Nader Writes to the Anti-Defamation League on the Israeli-Palestinian
Conflict
Dear Mr. Foxman:
How nice to hear your views. Years ago, fresh out of law school, I was
reading your clear writings against bigotry and discrimination. Your
charter has always been to advance
Counterpunch, August 10, 2004
Crossroads for the California Green Party
Will It Be Nader or Cobb?
By TODD CHRETIEN
In the next couple days, the California Green Party will decide whether
or not to hold a state-wide convention to consider putting Nader/Camejo
on the ballot. What will the party do
At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
nader people might be of greater help to polity in general (of
course, this is electoral campaign which, by definition, has narrow
focus) by highlighting unequal/unjust ballot access procedures,
state by state rules are clear violation of 14th
Title: nader goes southwest
Nader
Presidential Campaign Announces Southwest Airlines as its Unofficial
Campaign Airline
Based on several years of experience with an upstart airline from
Texas, the Nader Presidential campaign announces Southwest Airlines
as its unofficial campaign airline
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At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
nader people might be of greater help to polity in general (of
course, this is electoral campaign which, by definition, has narrow
focus) by highlighting unequal/unjust ballot access procedures,
state by state
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 10:01 PM
Nader Presidential Campaign Announces Southwest Airlines as its
Unofficial Campaign Airline
Nader had a good word for Southwest Airlines founder, Herb Kelleher.
wonder what nader thinks of kelleher's $47,500 to rep national committee
this year and $2000
retry - first attempt seems to have been sent as attachment for some
reason, sorry... mh
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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:04:28 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
The nomination of David Cobb
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public
disclosure.
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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:04:28 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
The nomination of David Cobb as the Green Party
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:04:28 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
2004.08.08 00:04:27
Nader 2004 Nader 2000 (The best kept secret of this presidential
election year is that Ralph Nader has been polling better in 2004
than 2000, despite the relentless barrage of attacks by Anybody But
Nader intellectuals. Compare the Gallop survey results in 2000 and
2004. Intellectuals who aid
Counterpunch, August 5, 2004
The Dem Plot Against Nader
Florida Comes to California
By TODD CHRETIEN
Having spent the last month helping organize the petition drive to get
Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo on the ballot in California, I'd like to
make two observations and some comments.
1
Devine, James wrote:
Todd Chretien writes:
The Democrats do nothing to challenge the indifference of the poorest
people and youth in the United States to the outcomes of elections,
because they benefit from it. The biggest threat to the Democratic
Party's status as an alternating ruling
- and very powerless.
A lot of people here in California will be follow Molly
Ivins' 2000 advice and will be voting for Nader (or Leonard Peltier) precisely
_because_ it will have no effect on the actual election. It's a mystery to me
why all those "yuppies" in California are so adamantly anti-Nader!
Jim Devine
Devine, James wrote:
This suggests that, for clarity's sake, future discussions of the DP
and ABB should make it clear whether we're talking about
(1) working within the DP; or
(2) voting for Kerry.
as for me, I agree that working within the DP is absolutely the wrong
way to go. What
Title: nader to lobbyist
Nader Tells Toby
Moffett: "Stop making false statements concerning allegations of
Republican support."
Rebuts False Allegations of Republican Support
Describes Moffett As a "Corporate Lobbyist," Not a Nader's
Raider
Moffett is Part of the Problem
The Democratic Party-Party Is Over
by Ralph Nader, votenader.org
The Democratic Party-Party Convention is over, and its singular memory
will be its predictable banality and the commercialism that mostly
financed it.
Historically, conventions were newsworthy because there was a struggle
over
I'm a long time lurker on marxmail, reading just about every day for
over a year. I was moved to forward this Charlotte Observer article
(now in the registrant-only archives) on Democratic Party efforts to
keep Nader off the ballot in my home state of South Carolina. Kerry has
no shot of winning
NY Times, August 2, 2004
Convictions Intact, Nader Soldiers On
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
SANTA MONICA, Calif., Aug. 1 - To Ralph Nader, the Democratic convention
in Boston was a hollow charade that made Senator John Kerry, the
Democratic presidential nominee, seem more like President Bush than
ever
Title: Nader says why
Ralph Nader, featured in special Democratic Convention edition of The
Hill, sending a clear message to the corporate political
duopoly.
The Hill
June 29, 2004
OP-ED
I'm staying in the race. Here's why. Get used to it.
By Ralph Nader
Washington, DC is corporate
Title: more nader to moore
Hey Michael, Where's Your Past?
The saga of Michael the Second continues. From a stalwart
collaborator before huge rallies in our 2000 Nader/LaDuke campaign to
a puzzling sidelines posture, to an endorsement of Wesley Clark, you
have perplexed more than a few of your
You go, Ralph!
Dan Scanlan wrote:
more nader to moore
Hey Michael, Where's Your Past?
The saga of Michael the Second continues. From a stalwart
collaborator before huge rallies in our 2000 Nader/LaDuke campaign to
a puzzling sidelines posture, to an endorsement of Wesley Clark
Title: more nader to moore
Unless there was
more than one MCI rally, I was there, and I don't
remember any equivocation
aboutNader v. Gore fromBro. Moore.
mbs
On "The Charlie Rose Show" last Thursday you repeated
the false statement that I promised to avoid
Title: Nader to Kucinich
Dennis, We Thought We
Knew You!
By Ralph
Nader
http://www.votenader.com
Dennis Kucinich has decided to endorse the Kerry-Edwards Campaign. Of
course, since Dennis is a committed, life-long Democrat this is not a
big surprise. But, in doing so he also urged Nader
Published on Friday, July 23, 2004
Nader Campaigns in Science Center
By JOSHUA P. ROGERS
Harvard Crimson Staff Writer
As Boston geared up for the Democratic National Convention, independent
candidate Ralph Nader crashed the party with a spirited rally on Friday
afternoon in the Science Center
LA Times, July 22, 2004
COMMENTARY
Democrats Richly Deserve Nader
By Alexander Cockburn
Always partial to monopolies, the Democrats think they should hold the
exclusive concession on any electoral challenge to George W. Bush and
the Republicans. The Ralph Nader campaign prompts them
of two evils and effectively, this is the way
its been for generations. This and whether a vote for Nader is a vote
for Bush, is the core of the argument in Greg Bates book Ralph's
Revolt: The Case for Joining Naders Rebellion.
Those who contend that a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, base
Counterpunch, July 21, 2004
Nader Sleeping with the Enemy?
Let's Be Fair
By JOSHUA FRANK
Democrats and liberal defenders of John Kerry, are throwing tantrums
over Ralph Nader's new found affinity for conservatives who are aiding
his ballot efforts in swing states. According to a Detroit News
Swans
The Case for Nader-Camejo
by Louis Proyect
(Swans - July 19, 2004) Although liberal attacks on Ralph Nader
have been marked by a level of vituperation usually reserved for such
as Slobodan Milosevic, Greg Bates's Ralph's Revolt is completely
rancor-free by contrast. It is a calm
On budget deficits, Kerry is as bad as Clinton, which is pretty bad.
But Nader has never been particularly good and clear on this issue,
though I think that overall his programmatic message goes in the right
direction.
mbs
In that chapter, titled Appease the Bond Market: the Kerry Plan to Make
Democrats Put Bush on the Ballot While Fighting to Keep Nader off
It:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/democrats-put-bush-on-ballot-while.html
Matt Gonzalez: Why Vote for Ralph Nader?:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/matt-gonzalez-why-vote-for-ralph-nader.html.
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* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Greens for Nader: http://greensfornader.net/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org
Nader's got some explaining to do. Why is his campaign headquarters
housed in his nonprofit's tax-exempt offices?
By Joe Conason, salon.com
March 15, 2004 | Ever since Ralph Nader announced his independent
candidacy for president last month, both friends and critics have
wondered why he
Greens for Nader! (circulating a petition to protest the campaign
against the voters by Democratic Party operatives trying to keep
Ralph Nader Peter Miguel Camejo off the ballot):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/greens-for-nader.html.
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http
American Leftists, Michael Moore, and Ralph Nader:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/american-leftists-michael-moore-and.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
American Leftists, Michael Moore, and Ralph Nader:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/american-leftists-michael-moore-and.html
This Mark Ames is a real piece of work, isn't he? He barely looks old
enough to shave, but has the gall to dress down the US left. What gives
the
wages and working conditions of relatively poor women today, your first
action item should not be to urge others to decrease demand for their
labor.
But let's let Barbara Ehrenreich speak for herself, in her command to
all correctly-thinking people to vote for Ralph Nader that she made four
years
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3262027
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That's nothing in comparison to Gore inspiring more than 200,000
registered Democrats in Florida to crossover and vote for George W. Bush
in the last election. The Democrats should not worry about the tiny
number of Democrats who vote for Nader. They should try
(The liberal crusade against Ralph Nader continues unabated despite the
victory of David Kerry Cobb. This is from salon.com, a wretched online
publication that serves as a tag-team partner for the Nation Magazine in
policing the left.)
The dark side of Ralph Nader
He's made a career of railing
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html
Bush allies illegally helping Nader in Oregon
Complaint filed with Federal Election Commission
Wednesday, June 30, 2004 Posted: 8:19 PM EDT (0019 GMT)
America Votes 2004
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Efforts by two conservative groups to help
Dan Scanlan wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html
Bush allies illegally helping Nader in Oregon
Complaint filed with Federal Election Commission
Wednesday, June 30, 2004 Posted: 8:19 PM EDT (0019 GMT)
America Votes 2004
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Efforts by two
Louis wrote...
That's nothing in comparison to Gore inspiring more than 200,000
registered Democrats in Florida to crossover and vote for George W. Bush
in the last election. The Democrats should not worry about the tiny
number of Democrats who vote for Nader. They should try to figure out
how
Title: nader to moore
Ralph Nader letter to Michael Moore:
http://www.votenader.org/why_ralph/index.php?cid=54
Dr. Harry G. Levine,
I had assumed that the author of the VV hatchet-job on Nader was some
snot-nosed kid on George Soros's payroll. I was surprised to discover
that it was instead written by a Queens College sociology professor:
http://www.soc.qc.edu/Staff/levine/
(My advice, btw, is to trim
Vote for Nader = Vote for Camejo!:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/vote-for-nader-vote-for-camejo.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu
the radio news says that Ralph Nader has chosen Peter Camejo as his
vice-presidential running mate. Camejo is good, but I don't think they
should start measuring the White House for new carpets yet...
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
the radio news says that Ralph Nader has chosen Peter Camejo as his
vice-presidential running mate. Camejo is good, but I don't think they
should start measuring the White House for new carpets yet...
They couldn't afford it anyway --there's so much crap swept under the
current rug it will take
Vote Nader/Camejo 2004!
Great news! Ralph Nader did the right thing and chose Peter Miguel
Camejo for his running mate:
Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader selected Peter Camejo,
a Green Party activist from California, as his vice presidential
nominee on Monday.
The pick comes just days
(What gall it takes for these questions to be raised in the bourgeois
press and by bourgeois politicians.)
Nader Had Campaign Office at Charity
Situation Raises Ethical Questions
By James V. Grimaldi
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 13, 2004; Page A01
Since October, Ralph Nader has run
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Gitlin is a repulsive character, but everything he says in this
passage is, sadly, true:
But there is no evidence that nonvoters differ from voters in any
ideological way.
poli sci guy stephen earl bennett's 1990 'deconstruction' ('the uses
and abuses of
Michael Hoover wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2004 2:06:42 PM
Gitlin is a repulsive character, but everything he says in this
passage is, sadly, true:
But there is no evidence that nonvoters differ from voters in any
ideological way.
poli sci guy stephen earl bennett's 1990 'deconstruction'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/1/2004 1:46:00 PM
Michael Hoover wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2004 2:06:42 PM
poli sci guy stephen earl bennett's 1990 'deconstruction' ('the uses
and abuses of registration and turnout data', _ps_) of above exposed
it
for canard it actually is...
That's not what a bunch
.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 6/1/2004 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] the new number one reason to vote Nader
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Devine, James wrote:
In my much more humble opinion, I agree with Michael: it doesn't make sense to me
that non-voters and voters would vote in a similar way, since the former are poorer,
more minority, and less educated than the latter, and many votes correlate highly
with income,
Michael Hoover wrote:
But there is no evidence that nonvoters differ from voters in any
ideological way.
poli sci guy stephen earl bennett's 1990 'deconstruction' ('the
uses and abuses of registration and turnout data', _ps_) of above
exposed it for canard it actually is...
That's not what a bunch
(This appears in the British SWP magazine Socialist Review at:
http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=8930. It
is similar to an article that appeared on tomdispatch.com a month
ago, but contains critical support of Ralph Nader, something that
was absent in the earlier article
Dissent Magazine, Spring 2004
Ralph Nader and the Will to Marginality
by Todd Gitlin
A classic book of social psychology analyzes a flying saucer cult of the
1950s. This small band of Americans believed that on a particular date
soon to come, the world would be engulfed by a flood of biblical
To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
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PEN-L list
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Subject: [Marxism] The new number one reason to vote Nader
From: Louis Proyect
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:09:41 -0400
Reply-To: Activists and scholars in Marxist
tradition[EMAIL
michael a. lebowitz wrote:
Dissent Magazine, Spring 2004
Ralph Nader and the Will to Marginality
by Todd Gitlin
Yes, I love it! The new slogan: 'A Vote for Nader is a vote against
Todd Gitlin' is sure to mobilise old SDS'ers.
Gitlin is a repulsive character, but everything he says in this
passage
This opening by Gitlin could (and should) be the opening to stop voting
Democrat.
Louis Proyect wrote:
Dissent Magazine, Spring 2004
Ralph Nader and the Will to Marginality
by Todd Gitlin
A classic book of social psychology analyzes a flying saucer cult of the
1950s. This small band of Americans
Slept with Nader woke up with Bush in 2000?
The Nader Factor: Democrat Fat Cats toy with anti-war voters
By Walt Contreras Sheasby
Were it not for a loophole in the McCain-Feingold Act and the
somersaults of defeated candidates Howard Dean, Gen. Wesley Clark
Slept with Nader woke up with Bush in 2000?
The Nader Factor: Democrat Fat Cats toy with anti-war voters
By Walt Contreras Sheasby
snip
By using the staff and cash of his former rivals, Kerry gets to go
around saying, I'm not going to ask Nader to drop out--he has as
much right to run--but I'm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ralph Nader all but endorsed John Kerry for president in an interview yesterday with the New York Times,
I don't want to give away too many of the details that I have in an
upcoming Swans article on the attacks on Ralph Nader, but suffice it to
say that Nader practically
Ralph Nader all but endorsed John Kerry for president in an interview yesterday with
the New York Times, effectively undercutting those of his supporters who want to
define his candidacy as a sharp break with the Democrats.
Nader told the Times that Kerry was very presidential, and indicated
Vanity Fair, May 2004
Unsafe On Any Ballot
By Christopher Hitchens
Democrats are furious that Ralph Nader, whose last presidential bid
helped put George W. Bush in office, is running again. Equally
dismaying, the author finds, is Naders backing from a crackpot group
with ties to Pat Buchanan
to attempt to untangle them, but two
threads dangle tantalizingly among the participles in his latest
denunciation of anyone to the left of himself as -- too far right!
1. It's somehow sinful or sinister for Nader to speak to a salon of
GOPers run by Grover Norquist but Hitchens himself feels
Salon: Liberal Democrats are fixated this year on one thing: beating
Bush. Do you consider that narrow and shortsighted?
Nader: Yes. I don't think they can beat Bush by themselves. I think they
need a demonstration effect represented in part by this candidacy. We'll
show them ways and modes
* Friday, March 5, 2004
In '72 speech, a different kind of Kerry
By Matthew Kelly, The Dartmouth Staff
Probable Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry will likely face
a challenge on the left from Ralph Nader soon, but 32 years ago,
Kerry showered his possible electoral spoiler
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:45:32 -0400
Subject: Nader for President: A Message to America's Students from Ralph Nader
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* Daschle Gets His Own Nader
By Brian Faler
Monday, April 5, 2004; Page A04
Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) has what some Democrats might call a Ralph
Nader problem.
The Senate minority leader, who was already facing a tough reelection
fight this year, must now contend with a Native American
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/27/2004 2:17:18 PM
That Ralph Nader turned out to be the Condorcet Winner in 2000 shows
how unusual the 2000 election was, according to Bruce C. Burden:
One of the most stringent methods of selecting a candidate was
proposed by the Marquis de Condorcet more than 200 years
with the least first choices (unlike Instant
Runoff Voting).
That Ralph Nader turned out to be the Condorcet Winner in 2000 shows
how unusual the 2000 election was, according to Bruce C. Burden:
* Two common methods are majority and plurality rule. Majority
rule would have failed in 2000 because
Furuhashi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 3/27/2004 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: [PEN-L] Nader the Condorcet Winner in 2000
The virtue of the Condorcet method is its ability to eliminate the
pressure on voters
* Nader Begins Push to Qualify for State Ballots
Wed Mar 24, 2004 01:43 PM ET
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Ralph Nader's wild-card presidential bid is
gearing up over the next few months for its biggest challenge --
navigating a maze of local
What is this guy's programme?
http://www.votenader.org/issues/index.php
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* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php, http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student
then?
Again, Sorry MP _ Just trying to get to understand this Nader thing!
Thanks,
H
Former Green Party Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader Gives his
First Major Address on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Tuesday,
June 17th, 2003:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/17/1359238 and
http://www.democracynow.org/transcripts/nader.shtml.
--
Yoshie
* Bring Them Home Now
. But a certain degree of heat on this one is probably
inevitable, possibly healthy?
Forgive me participants, but your USA scene is so odd I really do need help.
The thesis seems to be that: Kerry not very dissimilar to Bush.
OK - I agree - Kerry is pretty pro-USA-imperialist.
But: What is the Nader programme
According to the Socialist Worker, The Green Party campaign of Ralph Nader
for president in 2000 was a lightning rod for grievances throughout U.S.
society - and helped to bring together activists from different movements
who had never worked together before. But while elections do matter
* Published on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 by the Guardian/UK
Surge in Support for Nader Spells Trouble for Kerry
by Julian Borger in Washington
A new poll suggested yesterday that Ralph Nader's independent
presidential bid represented a serious threat to the Democratic
candidate, Senator John
I hope that this does not reignite our wild outbreak from a couple of
days ago.
--
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
they cheered any candidate who
took a strong stand on civil rights or spoke in favor of a just
solution for Palestine.
As an American and as a Muslim we have to worry about what is going
on, said Nuru, 45, who brought his son, Nader, 15, to the forum.
America is a free country, but our freedom
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I did vote for him in 2000 (in Calif.); his silence since the last
election has been deafening. I will not vote for him again. If I'm going
to throw away a vote I'd rather give it to Camejo or a socialist
candidate.
Joanna
remember: electoral college,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 7:30 AM
At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
geez, nader could draw 2 activists and he'd top what i'd draw
Well, you look adorable in a prequel to _The Blair Witch Project_. :-
At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
but do activists really need
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 7:51 AM
Nader is now drawing 7 percent of the votes in a nationwide
telephone poll of 1,206 adults, including 984 registered voters . . .
taken from last Wednesday through Sunday (Adam Nagourney and Janet
Elder, Nation's Direction Prompts Voters' Concern, Poll Finds
Although the latest Nader/Dem/Socialist Revolution posts are
unobjectionale, this thread ingnited so much nastiness, that maybe we
can drop it.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Among the liberal pundits who cry Anybody But Bush, it's open
season on Ralph Nader and the Green Party. Some wonder why the
Democratic leaders and intellectuals attack Nader and the Greens,
especially given that more Democrats voted for Bush than Nader in
2000: Bush received the votes of 12
to do with class background - normally taking political
responsibility requires respecting the rule of law.
Nader was born in Winsted, Connecticut, on Feb. 27, 1934 to Lebanese
immigrants, Mr Nathra and Mrs Rose Nader. Nathra operated a bakery and
restaurant. As a child, Ralph played with David
Louis wrote
I was no Dean supporter, but at least
with Dean you would have had a fight. Kerry is just too much of a centrist
and a patrician to really mix it up.
It seems to me that Kerry's anti-war activities in the early 70's was
a safe deviation into sense, to steal from Alexander Pope.
decides to run at all, will run as a VP candidate on a
Nader/Camejo ticket. (As I said, Camejo has been running in
primaries not to promote himself, but to push for the Green Party
nomination of Nader.) Running in presidential elections costs
enormous amounts of money, time, energy, etc., which only
At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
my mother is my political barometer and she and her husband are in
anybody but bush camp, she's worried (incorrectly imo) that nader
will help put bush back in white house, folks like her who think
that are much more important than all nation
I've never heard Nader speak, so I don't know if he's boring or not.
But what was all that I heard in 2000 about large groups of
college-age kids being excited by Nader?
inquiring minds want to know.
I was able to catch him in Middleburg VA at the founding of the
Associated State Green Parties
I was able to catch him in Middleburg VA at the founding of the
Associated State Green Parties in 1996, and in Sacramento and Chico
CA in 2000. He's very compelling, funny and scholarly, in my opinion.
When he's finished, you get the sense it is only because time ran
out, not because he ran out of
Good news for the Green Party -- Camejo taking the lead in the Green
Party primaries, and the Green Party is likely to nominate the
Nader/Camejo combo:
* March 14, 2004
Camejo takes the lead
Peter Camejo won 99 of 132 state delegates in the California
primaries, garnering 75.4 percent
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Over the last eight years, Nader has done more for the Green
Party than anybody else, said Howard Hawkins, a Green Party
organizer from Syracuse, N.Y. We should draft him and have a
candidate who can be in the national debates with Bush and the
expected
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