Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 4:31 PM -0400 7/21/04, Michael Pollak wrote: self-selected candidates often don't care whether they get local party support or not (and sometimes prefer not), surely progressive/left folks can do better than this with whatever shell of an organization exists... I think there is now a much more

Re: Housing prices

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Davies
it's only happened once in the UK since the war. dd -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Pollak Sent: 23 July 2004 03:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Housing prices I recently read that nominal housing prices have never declined in the US

Re: C.I.A. Plays It Safe by Accentuating the Negative

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Davies
a Member of Parliament is the Honourable Member for Bogarse South. A Privy Councillor is The Right Honourable. Debrett's would encourage you to refer to a younger child of a hereditary peer as the Honourable as a courtesy title in the absence of any other title, but this practice is on the way

Re: Housing prices

2004-07-23 Thread Marvin Gandall
It may be the case that nominal house prices have rarely if ever fallen since WW II, but I would doubt their annual average percentage increase over this period exceeds the capital gain on stocks and certain classes of bonds, particularly when the carrying cost of this type of investment is

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Chris Doss
--- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any common cause with any of today's 3rd world economic\political elite (Malaysians? Brazilians? Koreans? Russians? Vietnamese?)? --- Russia is not a 3rd world country. __ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of

HDI: Cuba vs. Mexico

2004-07-23 Thread Paul
Ulhas writes: Hi Diane ! Mexico is not far behind Cuba in HDI, AFAIK. Quite true: they are right next to each other this year (Cuba #52 with and index of 0.809; Mexico #51 with 0.802). And I think the comparison illustrates the point about indexes (and maybe about reconstituted statistics such

Michael Moore letter to las vegas

2004-07-23 Thread Charles Brown
by Craven, Jim Response Jim C: Look, whatever the problems or deficiencies in Moore's film from any ideological purist's point of view (or from the point of view of those familiar with even more salient facts/perspectives than mentioned by Moorer in his film), I do applaud his effort and that he

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Davies
nor is Malaysia -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Doss Sent: 23 July 2004 14:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Human Development Index 2004 --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any common cause with any of today's 3rd world

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Daniel Davies wrote: nor is Malaysia Behalf Of Chris Doss Russia is not a 3rd world country. Third World is not a useful category. Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Cuba needs to be compared with other nations that have a similar history and resource endowment, like Jamaica or the Dominican Republic. Cuba ranks 52, while Jamaica is at 79 and The Dominican Republic ranks 98th. Imagine if Jamaica and The Dominican Republic were subjected to unremitting economic

Cuba: Dealing with the dollar

2004-07-23 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Frontline Volume 16 - Issue 8, Apr. 10 - 23, 1999 CUBA Cuba: Dealing with the dollar C.P. CHANDRASEKHAR recently in Havana How Cuba copes with the long-term effects of the U.S. blockade against it by making the pursuit of dollar earning a virtual movement.

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Chris Doss
Third World is not a useful category. Ulhas --- Thank you! That is so true. It seems to be a synonym for poorer than the West. (Except that Saudi Arabia is usually called a third-world country, even though the average Saudi private residence is five times the size of one in Western Europe). If

Re: HDI 2004\3rd World

2004-07-23 Thread Paul
Chris Doss writes (with related points from Daniel Davies and Ulhas Joglekar) : --- Paul wrote: Is there any common cause with any of today's 3rd world economic\political elite (Malaysians? Brazilians? Koreans? Russians? Vietnamese?)? --- Russia is not a 3rd world country. Point taken. And of

City of God

2004-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
I finally got around to seeing the Brazilian film City of God, which was directed by TV commercial veteran Fernando Meirelles and that enjoyed a very long run in NYC theaters a year or so ago. As most people know, this film has been widely acclaimed by the critical establishment and was an

F911 fizzle?

2004-07-23 Thread Devine, James
http://www.latimes.com/la-et-horn23jul23,1,1478123.story http://www.latimes.com/la-et-horn23jul23,1,1478123.story THE [Los Angeles] TIMES POLL Public Keeping Its Cool Over Election Effect of 'Fahrenheit' By John Horn Times Staff Writer July 23, 2004

Nicaragua 25 years later

2004-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
I am actually working on an article for Phil Ferguson's magazine that will expore this topic in some depth, but I would be remiss if I didn't comment on ISO leader Lee Sustar's article that appears in today's Counterpunch at: http://www.counterpunch.org/sustar07232004.html While giving the

Re: HDI 2004\3rd World

2004-07-23 Thread Chris Doss
--- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imagine Chris Doss finds that his difficulties explaining Putin to others on this list relates to this point - no? And, of course, all of us are caught in terrible conflicting priorities when it comes to events in the Middle East. Paul --- I think that, in

Re: HDI 2004\3rd World

2004-07-23 Thread Devine, James
Chris D. writes:... Putin considers the market economy as something that should serve the state -- capital is a handmaiden of the state, not vice versa. Business exists in order to fill the federal treasury. This is a very non-Western view, ... this was a Western view under Mercantilism. And it

Re: HDI 2004\3rd World

2004-07-23 Thread Chris Doss
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this was a Western view under Mercantilism. And it worked for South Korea, didn't it? jim devine --- I think there is still a possibility that Russia will move in a South Korean chaebol-like direction. That seems to have been the original strategy

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Davies
Also worth noting (although to be honest I'm not anything like informed enough to be a booster or otherwise of the Cuban economy) that unlike Jamaica and Dom. Rep., Cuba's economy is not a material exporter of cannabis or cocaine, although it is perfectly well set up to be. This has to be

Forwarded from Patrick Bond

2004-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Hello from Johannesburg, Should capitalists who profited handsomely from South Africa's racist/sexist apartheid system pay back the victims? Should we, in the process, teach big corporations that they will pay a price for supporting undemocratic, oppressive regimes? A very important case is being

quick question

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Perelman
What is a good source for the share of HMO dollars that goes to care rather than profits or overhead? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/04 3:29 AM I don't think that it was worth leftists' time to fight to have Howard Dean nominated, as Dean's agenda in some crucial respects (especially on Iraq) went against leftists', but, supposing that there were left-of-center liberal folks who really, really, wanted

Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Hoover
what is progressive economist take on ford and general motors releasng info the other day indicating that each only made profits from credit/lending operations... michael hoover -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records

Alexander Cockburn: Democrats Richly Deserve Nader

2004-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
LA Times, July 22, 2004 COMMENTARY Democrats Richly Deserve Nader By Alexander Cockburn Always partial to monopolies, the Democrats think they should hold the exclusive concession on any electoral challenge to George W. Bush and the Republicans. The Ralph Nader campaign prompts them to

India: Human Development Report 2001

2004-07-23 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Planning Commission Government of India National Human Development Report 2001 http://planningcommission.nic.in/reports/genrep/reportsf.htm Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to:

Who's Getting the New Jobs?

2004-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, July 23, 2004 OP-ED COLUMNIST Who's Getting the New Jobs? By BOB HERBERT A startling new study shows that all of the growth in the employed population in the United States over the past few years can be attributed to recently arrived immigrants. The study found that from the beginning of

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Perelman, Michael
I think that this is very important. For me it signifies that the center of gravity of the economy is shifting in the direction of finance capital, except that I would include intellectual property as part of the nonmaterial properties that represent the core of finance capital. Michael Perelman

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Davies
accounting for the profits of lending is the second blackest of the black arts (accounting for the profits of life assurers is the blackest). There are often very substantial gaps indeed between even the best accruals accounts and cash. If the debt ends up not being repaid, this earnings stream

Suicides, Military and Economic

2004-07-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Suicides, Military and Economic (rising suicide rates of Israeli soldiers, Japanese workers, and Indian farmers): http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/suicides-military-and-economic.html. -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/ * Greens for Nader: http://greensfornader.net/ *

Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Charles Brown
what is progressive economist take on ford and general motors releasng info the other day indicating that each only made profits from credit/lending operations... michael hoover ^ You must be reading Detroit newspapers in Ann Arbor, Michael. Charles

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Waistline2
Wall Street analysts said they'd like to see GM -- as well as Ford -- make more money from selling cars and trucks. Ford is even more dependent than GM on its credit business, getting about 77 percent of its profits from there. "I think at both GM and Ford the reliance is a general concern.

Spam I got

2004-07-23 Thread Charles Brown
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Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Charles Brown wrote: what is progressive economist take on ford and general motors releasng info the other day indicating that each only made profits from credit/lending operations... michael hoover ^ You must be reading Detroit newspapers in Ann Arbor, Michael. It made the Chicago

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Hoover wrote: responses to my initial post conveyed, by and large, varying degrees of maximalism, making quantitative leap from my modest suggestion all the way to presidential electoral politics (by such measures *all attempts will fail), pervasive problem imo... The questions of what we

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Even if the Green Party were to succeed in electing Green mayors in all cities in the United States, for instance, an impact of such a dramatic change in local politics on US foreign policy won't be even minimalist -- it will be practically zero. Not necessarily.

Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Charles Brown
It made the Chicago papers too; I can't remember now, but I think there was a brief story on it in the Bloomington Pantagraph. GM Ford are big news reverberate outside the City of Eddie Guest. :-) Carrol ^ CB: Well GM is only about the third largest company in the world now. I wonder if

Re: FW: Blackfoot Constitution

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Please, Jim no attachments. Not a Bhuddist comment. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't recall the exact details, but a few years ago when Rupert Murdoch was looking to expand his satellite business the Wall Street Journal said that he was mulling over the possibility of buying General Motors, because its satellite division was worth more on the market than the company as a

Re: FW: Blackfoot Constitution

2004-07-23 Thread Craven, Jim
Please, Jim no attachments. Not a Bhuddist comment. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Sorry about that Michael. I forgot...Old age and some powerfu meds at work I fear. Jim

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Carrol wrote: even through contesting for power in local DP organizations. At the local level, what a Green politician does and what a really good left-wing Democratic politician does may not be so different anyway. (Real irreconcilable political differences make their appearance at the level

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/23/2004 4:04:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CB: Well GM is only about the third largest company in the world now. I wonder if what's good for General Motors is still good for America. Way back in the thirties it was Alfred P. Sloan ( I think)

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Waistline2
General Motors put on the back burner for a moment its new production facility design of modular produced vehicles . .. where the modules are shipped to a central point for assembly. By the early 1970 General Motors already had the blueprints for a 90 - 95% automated engine assembly plant .

Kurdish warlords delay unity

2004-07-23 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Hindu Saturday, Jul 24, 2004 Kurdish warlords delay unity By Jonathan Steele Kurdistan's two big party leaders may end up producing a deal with Baghdad that their own people denounce. SHORT OF leaving Iraq altogether, the only chance of escaping Baghdad's overwhelming heat and the

Re: quick question

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Pollak
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Michael Perelman wrote: What is a good source for the share of HMO dollars that goes to care rather than profits or overhead? Just about anything written by Steffie Woolhandler of Physicians for a National Health Plan (http://www.pnhp.org) Here's a short one:

Re: quick question

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I had been looking at my notes on her work, but could not find anything recent. Thank you very much. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Marvin Gandall
Don't you think it will be necessary for the Greens to win a number of congressional seats before they can be seen as a potential alternative to the Democrats by the unions and social movements, and a durable third party in the country as a whole? After all, electoral politics in a capitalist

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Marvin Gandall wrote: Don't you think it will be necessary for the Greens to win a number of congressional seats before they can be seen as a potential alternative to the Democrats by the unions and social movements, and a durable third party in the country as a whole? You are assuming

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Social democracy is as dead as stalinism. Both were equallydiscredited by the events of the twentieth century. Justin argues thatthere will never again be mass "Marxist" parties. Could be. But the sameargument suggests that there will never again be mass social democraticparties. But aren't

Re: Cuba: siempre con combate

2004-07-23 Thread Diane Monaco
Jim wrote: did you see any cats or dogs? when I was in Cuba in the late 1970s, I didn't see any of them. I was wondering if someone had decided that they were luxuries. (I asked about it and our guide accused me of thinking that people had eaten them!) Come to think of it I didn’t see any cats

Re: Cuba: siempre con combate

2004-07-23 Thread Diane Monaco
Ulhas wrote: Diane Monaco wrote: Cuba IS a remarkable country Hi Diane ! Mexico is not far behind Cuba in HDI, AFAIK. Btw, 75% Singaporeans, 50% Malaysians 33% of Thais have cell phones. How many cell phones Cuba has? Hola! Hola! I really don't know the answer to that question and I don't

Re: Slave labour in Brazil

2004-07-23 Thread Diane Monaco
Of course, “bonded” labor practices are nothing new, we’re only seeing newer versions emerging as our borders open with increasing globalization. Using the “fear of deportation” to exploit the labor illegal immigrants from neighboring countries is a bonded labor practice where the impossible to